New age class changes

I am not sure about the new age class change and need some help.
If your child is in high school but is still in the 14 and under age group where do you wrestle for kids? Any help would be great. Thanks

If your child is eligible to wrestle 14 and under he or she has the option to wrestle 14 and under or High School. This was voted on at the State body meeting.

That is up to you, they can wrestle in either. It depends on the wrestlers ability. If you want to see where your wrestler stacks up with the High School wrestlers, wrestle High School. If your wrestler is new to the sport, or finds plenty of competition in his own age division wrestle 14U. A 14 year old High School Champion should probably wrestle High School, but again it is entirely up to the parents, coaches, and wrestler.

So you could be in the High school age group for 5 years?

The high school is for FRESHMEN thru Seniors.
Some freshmen still fall into the 14U group. They can choose which class to wrestle in.
So really the most you should be in that class is more the four years.

Technically a wrestler could be in the High School Divsion for 5 years. A 14 year old 8th grader whose birthday falls late could be in for 5 years.

Rule 4-4-1
At no time will a wrestler be permitted to wrestle out of their age division.

The way I see it an 8th grader cannot wrestle up in the 'High School' division regardless if they are 14 years of age.

You are correct. I meant a 15 year old 8th grader. Let's say he turned 15 on August 31st and was an 8th grader. He could wrestle 5 years of High School.

I just have to say this topic threw me for a loop. I wondered what "New Age" thinking had to do with wrestling. Now I know.

Rule 4-4-1 High School Division
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The High School Division is available for wrestlers currently attending high school, or middle school if their age does not qualify them for a younger age division.

The way I read that is, the 'high school division' is only available to middle schoolers who exceed the age of 14? That is a prime example of why we should not rush changes to the constitution and by-laws and they should be written on something other than a cocktail napkin and distributed prior to the state meeting.

I'd like to see a count of 8th graders that are not eligible for 14u.

You'll be hard pressed to find many, if any.

I agree but the whole rule is confusing by even mentioning middle schoolers.

If your child is 14 and under and wants to wrestle in the High School division they have that option. This was voted on at the State Body meeting. This is a kids modification to the High School rules.

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Again, that is not my interpretation of that rule. As I read it, you can only wrestle the high school division if you are IN high school. As I read it, a 14U 8th grader does not qualify for the high school division.

I believe sportsfan is correct, but I haven't heard anyone on here complaining about their 8th grader that is 14u, not being able to wrestle the HS division.

so is this the new rule for districts and kids state high school instead of 16u and if so what weight classes are being used

You will find them under the rules section on the button to the left of this page.

Is the high school division going to wrestle the high school wieghts or the kids wieghts. If they wrestle kids wieghts some of the matchups everyone has been hoping to see across all classes might not happen?

They are wrestling the kids weights. Even if they were wrestling High School weights, we would not see the match ups. Senior Nationals, Flow Nationals, and several other tournaments are that same weekend.

Thanks for the info, thought maybe we could see something close to grand state.

Are you sure about the weights being kids' weights? I thought the reason the Classic was doing HS weights was because the kids series was doing them? I think they were doing a 3 lb allowance, to try to keep the HS kids at the weights they wrestled in HS. From the Wichita Classic flyer:
"High School: 103, 112, 119, 125, 130, 135, 140, 145, 152, 160, 171, 189,
215, 245, 275 (+3 POUND GROWTH ALLOWANCE - HS ONLY)"

Looks like they added a 245.

This is said all without me doing any research, so maybe Richard can clarify it for us.

Thansk
Doug

This rule seems like it will make the 14 and under weight class easier and smaller.

That was certainly a concern of some on another thread last fall and was discussed on here and at the state meeting.

Kansas Kids Wrestling
State Body Meeting
November 1, 2009

Weight classes for the High School Division will be as follows: 100, 105, 110, 115, 120, 125, 130, 135, 140, 145, 150, 155, 160, 165, 175, 185, 215, 250, 285.

There will be a few really good 14 year HS kids that move in that direction mainly in the lighter weights. Most 14 year
HS kids are not going to match up very well with junior and seniors that are close to the top of their game.

Using Chiefs latest allclass rankings: with grades and weights only a hand full of 14 year olds will make the Kids State podium in the hs division - that is if they make it to state or districts. There will be a few older guys who place in their HS State and do not make it to kids state.



INDIVIDUAL RANKINGS:


103
1. Zac Gentzler - 9 - AC - 5A
2. Bryce Shoemaker - 9 - BAL - 4A
3. Kaleb Bonilla - 11 - GD - 6A
4. Chris Burley - 9 - GB - 5A
5. Clay Mulligan - 10 - SC - 4A
6. Jace Roy - 9 - PV - 4A
7. Dustin Reed - 9 - CB - 4A
8. Chris Sullivan - 10 - HUT - 5A
9. Cullen Hood - 9 - LOU - 4A
10. Jason Perez - 10 - ULY - 4A


112
1. Dalton Miller - 12 - WC - 6A
2. Trevor Boyer - 12 - MV - 5A
3. Bo Newport - 11 - PV - 4A
4. Aspen Kmiec - 11 - SH - 5A
5. Bo Pursel - 10 - LS - 5A
6. Austin Hood - 10 - LOU - 4A
7. Dylan Schumacher - 10 - TMP - 321A
8. Tommy Williams - 10 - STA - 5A
9. Hunter Haralson - 9 - LAW - 6A
10t. Zac Dremel - 10 - OS - 6A
10t. Nathan Reed - 12 - CB - 4A


119
1. Zac Sparr - 12 - RH - 4A
2. Cody Beasley - 11 - WC - 6A
3. Blaine Smith - 12 - SS - 5A
4. Aaron Seybold - 10 - PT - 5A
5. Dane Norris - 11 - MH - 6A
6. Robbie Hines - 11 - ULY - 4A
7. Adrian Salas - 12 - LB - 5A
8. Caleb Seaton - 11 - BS - 5A
9. Colby Witten - 11 - MZ - 6A
10. Colby Watters - 10 - ARK - 5A


125
1. Daniel DeShazer - 11 - WH - 6A
2. Jake Gentzler - 11 - AC - 5A
3. Symon Seaton - 11 - BL - 4A
4. Brett LaMar - 12 - SL - 4A
5. Garrett Jones - 12 - AC - 5A
6. Zach Hoehn - 11 - WEL - 321A
7. Steven Plott - 12 - SS - 5A
8. Logan Singular - 12 - CC - 4A
9. Hunter Stalford - 11 - CV - 321A
10. Ross Whitmore - 11 - SMNW - 6A


130
1. Taylor Moeder - 11 - SJA - 4A
2. Colt Rogers - 12 - SC - 321A
3. Kyle Johnson - 11 - COL - 4A
4. Tyson Schmidtberger - 12 - RUS - 4A
5. Lane Greenlee - 12 - GC - 6A
6. Brandon Charbonneau - 10 - EMP - 5A
7. Mario Corado - 11 - PT - 5A
8. Miles Johns - 10 - NEW - 5A
9. Ky Biddle - 10 - CB - 321A
10. Alex Thibault - 9 - HAL - 321A


135
1. Chase Nitcher - 12 - VC - 4A
2. Colton Eck - 11 - AN - 4A
3. Zack Tanenbaum - 11 - BVN - 6A
4. Kash Biddle - 12 - ARK - 5A
5. Alex Bontz - 10 - AC - 5A
6. Jace Campbell - 12 - OA - 321A
7. Uylesses DeShazer - 10 - WH - 6A
8. Courtney Strauss - 11 - AB - 4A
9. Kale Newell - 11 - SC - 321A
10. Cole Schreiner - 11 - SEA - 5A


140
1. Tyler Anderson - 12 - CC - 4A
2. Danny Floyd - 12 - OS - 321A
3. Bryce Hood - 12 - LOU - 4A
4. Spencer Blew - 11 - LS - 5A
5. Bradley Little - 11 - DB - 6A
6. Vance Oliver - 12 - WIN - 5A
7. Tre Houlden - 11 - GD - 6A
8. BT O'Hara - 11 - COL - 4A
9. Tyler McMichael - 10 - CB - 321A
10. Hunter Edwards - 12 - DC - 6A


145
1. Ryne Cokeley - 11 - SJA - 4A
2. Joey Dozier - 12 - GC - 6A
3. Cody Shavlik - 12 - DB - 6A
4. Tyler Davis - 12 - MCP - 5A
5. Chase Sanchez - 11 - EMP - 5A
6. Derrick Weller - 12 - PIP - 4A
7. Connor Middleton - 10 - ONW - 6A
8. Trevor Oliver - 12 - OS - 321A
9. Chris Coover - 12 - OT - 4A
10. Dillon Scanlon - 11 - LS - 5A


152
1. Cade Blair - 12 - VC - 4A
2. Dylan Penka - 11 - BC - 5A
3. Sam Son - 10 - CH - 4A
4. Josh Rodriguez - 12 - ULY - 4A
5. Thomas Rachow - 12 - PHI - 321A
6. Landon Keiswetter - 11 - NO - 321A
7. Dillon Charland - 12 - JC - 6A
8. Jake Walker - 12 - STA - 5A
9. Colten Picking - 11 - AB - 4A
10t. Jason Seibel - 12 - SS - 5A
10t. Cullen Demerest - 12 - LS - 5A


160
1. Jake Hattabaugh - 11 - AN - 4A
2. John Hambleton - 12 - LC - 4A
3. Nick Thibault - 12 - HAL - 321A
4. Logan Gaskill - 12 - EMP - 5A
5. Reece Wright-Conklin - 10 - LAW - 6A
6. Todd Curtis - 12 - GE - 5A
7. Lucas Cortez - 12 - EL - 4A
8. Joe Johnson - 12 - BL - 4A
9. Austin Baird - 12 - PRT - 4A
10. Austin Willis - 12 - SH - 5A


171
1. Parker Madl - 12 - BV - 6A
2. Benny Armstrong - 12 - AN - 4A
3. Corey Engstrom - 12 - HOI - 321A
4. Ethan Mumaw - 11 - JW - 4A
5. Matt Reed - 10 - WH - 6A
6. Chance Davis - 12 - CC - 4A
7. Taylor Baird - 11 - PRT - 4A
8. Jeremie Maus - 12 - TG - 4A
9. Evon Royal - 12 - JC - 6A
10. Zane Perez - 12 - NO - 321A


189
1. Jace Banner - 12 - DC - 6A
2. David Blazevic - 12 - ON - 6A
3. Jonathan Truman - 12 - KMC - 5A
4. Zach Grimes - 11 - OZ - 4A
5. Dylon Walker - 12 - EL - 4A
6. Tate Omli - 11 - MIN - 321A
7. Zach Anderson - 11 - CC - 4A
8. Tyler Gjerstad - 12 - AB - 4A
9. Luke Hayes - 10 - SC - 4A
10. Steven Cooksley - 12 - SEA - 5A


215
1. Mark Kolmer - 12 - EMP - 5A
2. Kyle Caylor - 12 - WNW - 6A
3. Taylor Wuthnow - 12 - AB - 4A
4. Nick Pearch - 12 - BV - 6A
5. Gage Knudson - 11 - JC - 6A
6. Ethan Jirak - 11 - OAK - 321A
7. Josh Hicks - 12 - GD - 6A
8. Dylan Matheny - 12 - KMC - 5A
9. Shawn Marlatt - 10 - DB - 6A
10. Josh Bush - 12 - LV - 6A


285
1. BJ Finney - 12 - AN - 4A
2. Tank Burns - 12 - COL - 4A
3. Trey Page - 12 - WNW - 6A
4. Lorenzo Serna - 12 - EMP - 5A
5. Jared Rice - 12 - PHI - 321A
6. Cody Huffman - 12 - DOU - 321A
7. Dillon Salmans - 11 - HOX - 321A
8. Beau Bennett - 11 - PT - 5A
9. Damone Hatch - 12 - IND - 4A
10. Luke Henning - 11 - AUG - 4A