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Biggest upsets at state? 5A and 6A

Posted By: Stand Up King

Biggest upsets at state? 5A and 6A - 03/01/09 04:31 AM

What do you think were the biggest upsets of the state tournament and finals and why? Who got messed over? Just conversation. Vent or state your opinions.
Posted By: Dean Welsh

Re: Biggest upsets at state? 5A and 6A - 03/01/09 04:33 AM

I was surprised that Vesta got beat. That one surprised me the most. And, also from Manhattan - that Norris won it. Congrads to him and to all.
Posted By: wrestling67

Re: Biggest upsets at state? 5A and 6A - 03/01/09 04:41 AM

There were injuries that also played hugh factors on who won it all in some of the brackets.
Posted By: ZedStomper

Re: Biggest upsets at state? 5A and 6A - 03/01/09 04:43 AM

1126a- Norris over Deshazer

1256a- Lawerence over Desahazer

1716a- Feldkamp over Nelson

1195a- Jones over Gentzler
Posted By: HEADUP

Re: Biggest upsets at state? 5A and 6A - 03/01/09 08:32 AM

yeah if plott would have won brent koehn might have been state champ, bummer.
Posted By: WillyM

Re: Biggest upsets at state? 5A and 6A - 03/01/09 10:24 AM

5A: 103 Bo Pursel over Dakin, Seybold and Watters. No one picked that. "Bo is too small" said all the gurus.
Posted By: powercat1

Re: Biggest upsets at state? 5A and 6A - 03/01/09 12:02 PM

5A 130 Blew over Biddle pin in 1.15. 3 out of 4 matches Blew won by pin in under 1.30 the 4th coming at 3.29
Posted By: Dean Welsh

Re: Biggest upsets at state? 5A and 6A - 03/01/09 01:22 PM

The finals scoreboards at 4a irritated me. First, instead of merely having RED vs. GREEN - they typed the wrestlers last name and it took FOREVER until they got it figured out for those poor three pounders. Then, problems with about the next three weights, then they finally got it smoothed out. Maybe next year go back to simply having RED vs. GREEN on the scoreboard. KISS. (keep it simple stupid)

The lights on one was SO BRIGHT with ads that it literally hurt your eyes even when you weren't looking at it. Analogous to looking directly at the sun if you tried to take a peak at the team score at the same time they were running one of those MEGA BRIGHT light adds. It was really annoying. So, next year, some some money and retinas by turning that damn scoreboard's ad lights DOWN PLEASE"!

During Napier's match (total domination btw) they forgot to start the clock. This lasted for 6 seconds and would have continued had C.J. (while STILL wrestling) had not brought it to the refs attention. Good for him. It was as if out of the whole stadium, he was the only one who had the presence of mind to notice the clock problem.

Last, the food and water POLICE. Bags checked. Couldn't bring anything in. Therefore, go get rapped by high priced junk at the concession stand. ie. 3 bucks for a bottle of diet Coke as one could not sneak in 'evil' water. Ghez. I thought that was lame.
Posted By: chewie

Re: Biggest upsets at state? 5A and 6A - 03/01/09 01:26 PM

Originally Posted By: dwelsh

Last, the food and water POLICE. Bags checked. Couldn't bring anything in. Therefore, go get rapped by high priced junk at the concession stand. ie. 3 bucks for a bottle of diet Coke as one could not sneak in 'evil' water. Ghez. I thought that was lame.



Got to make the money somehow, right? At Hays, a 20 oz. gatorade was $3.50.
Posted By: Dean Welsh

Re: Biggest upsets at state? 5A and 6A - 03/01/09 01:40 PM

True. It is a for-profit game. I thought admission was enough. But, speaking of admission - I admit that I am cheap and broke and snuck in a bagel or two and some deer jerky. . . I didn't chance it with the water. Too hard to conceal properly. ;-)
Posted By: shwrestlingmom

Re: Biggest upsets at state? 5A and 6A - 03/01/09 02:10 PM

103 Kmiec over Dakin and williams. Many out here do not give him credit. Kudos to you Aspen for proving youself this weekend.
Never had my bag checked. But witnessed them charging Adult prices for children not in highschool because they were not considered "students" and also if they could not produce something with their name and school name on them.
Posted By: Dean Welsh

Re: Biggest upsets at state? 5A and 6A - 03/01/09 03:02 PM

Anybody else get blinded by that one annoying scoreboard - the MEGA BRITE LIGHTS were the ads under the team score?
Posted By: DanaHeavyweight

Re: Biggest upsets at state? 5A and 6A - 03/01/09 03:27 PM

i agree with you dwelsh. i didn't think the finals were highlighted as much as they should have. between the bright ads that occasionally drew your attention away and the lights left on in the stands. 07 was a great finals year, they had the whole center blacked out (except for the lights on the stairs) and the mat lit up with the mat lights, wish they would do that again. it set a great atmosphere
Posted By: blaise

Re: Biggest upsets at state? 5A and 6A - 03/01/09 03:52 PM

dwelsh - Sounds like you had a horrible time. I didn't make any tournaments this year. I had to work. I hope there was at least one good thing about the tournament this year.
Posted By: Dean Welsh

Re: Biggest upsets at state? 5A and 6A - 03/01/09 04:29 PM

Blaise, it was fine. Just stating my facts as I experienced them. The matches WERE GREAT and that is the main reason i went. I don't get wrapped around the axle by little things like the scoreboard and food. I came to watch quality wrestling and that is what I got!
Posted By: racer12x

Re: Biggest upsets at state? 5A and 6A - 03/01/09 06:06 PM

hey, how about the Boyer kid @ 112 out of mill valley, didnt see much on him before hand. great job TREVOR.
Posted By: state placer

Re: Biggest upsets at state? 5A and 6A - 03/01/09 11:22 PM

Even more than the lights, it was the walk-up music for the placers that i found irritating. Darth Vader and Goldberg? Come on 4A, we can do better than that.
Posted By: ksman01

Re: Biggest upsets at state? 5A and 6A - 03/01/09 11:52 PM

if nitcher and plott wrestled the second day it would be a blow out in my opinion.
Posted By: Roach

Re: Biggest upsets at state? 5A and 6A - 03/01/09 11:53 PM

Originally Posted By: bill vielhauer
hey, how about the Boyer kid @ 112 out of mill valley, didnt see much on him before hand. great job TREVOR.


I am with you Billy! NO ONE had Boyer going farther than 3rd... He wrestled awesome! - A True Champion ... ON and OFF the mat!
Posted By: Scarecrow_103

Re: Biggest upsets at state? 5A and 6A - 03/02/09 12:03 AM

i personally hate these kind of topics... just because i know how bad i felt 2 yrs ago when i came home from wichita and there was a post like this and under it 3 people said "goodwin getting beat by wenzel by 14 in the quarters". BUT if i had to say upsets i would say tannenbaum and feldkamp both winning... Both of there opponenents were pretty favored i would have to say.
Posted By: Roach

Re: Biggest upsets at state? 5A and 6A - 03/02/09 12:06 AM

Oh .. I was just wondering who KSMAN was talking about... Nothing meant by it.. I typed "Thought" out loud... :o)
Posted By: Isenberg133

Re: Biggest upsets at state? 5A and 6A - 03/02/09 01:02 AM

Biggest upsets to me after looking at the 5a brackets were jordan brown and mark kolmer getting pinned, and zane wickham losing out on the first day to two unranked wrestlers. You could also say cole over nowak was an upset.
Posted By: ChuckMies

Re: Biggest upsets at state? 5A and 6A - 03/02/09 01:56 AM

Originally Posted By: Aldon Isenberg135
Biggest upsets to me after looking at the 5a brackets were jordan brown and mark kolmer getting pinned, and zane wickham losing out on the first day to two unranked wrestlers. You could also say cole over nowak was an upset.


I thought Jake Cole wrestled the tournament of his life this weekend. You would have to had been there to see how well he wrestled against everyone, especially Nowak. Very smart and controlled in every match. He "peaked" as just the right time and it was a pleasure to watch.

As for some of the other upsets, there were many. I guess that this is the State tournament, and when you put all these high caliber wrestlers together things can and will happen.
Posted By: wrestling67

Re: Biggest upsets at state? 5A and 6A - 03/02/09 02:07 AM

At 112 6A, Dalton Miller wrestled on an injured ankle. He will find out tomorrow if it was not just injured but possibly broken. He wrestled as well as any one could in the situation but came up short in the Quarter finals by 1 point. He did take 4th on the injury default but I sure wish I could have seen him wrestle without the injured ankle. I want to congratulate, Dane on winning the tournament. With the quality of wrestling this weekend I hope that alot of these fine young men will be representing our state at Brute Adidas Nationals in April. We need to show the other states that we are he and will challenge each and everyone of them.

Mel
Posted By: HaysHighArnhold

Re: Biggest upsets at state? 5A and 6A - 03/02/09 02:42 PM

in 5a 112 arzola over stokes and brock stewart of Hutch pinning jake sullivan of andover central, o.... and both semi matches boyer over salas and prescott over seaton.
Posted By: Husker Fan

Re: Biggest upsets at state? 5A and 6A - 03/02/09 03:20 PM

Originally Posted By: ChuckMies
Originally Posted By: Aldon Isenberg135
Biggest upsets to me after looking at the 5a brackets were jordan brown and mark kolmer getting pinned, and zane wickham losing out on the first day to two unranked wrestlers. You could also say cole over nowak was an upset.


I thought Jake Cole wrestled the tournament of his life this weekend. You would have to had been there to see how well he wrestled against everyone, especially Nowak. Very smart and controlled in every match. He "peaked" as just the right time and it was a pleasure to watch.

As for some of the other upsets, there were many. I guess that this is the State tournament, and when you put all these high caliber wrestlers together things can and will happen.



Jacob Cole's victory over my son Jacob Nowak could be considered an upset in that my son was ranked No. 1 in 5A and undefeated going into the tournament. However, the best 5A 215 wrestler won that semifinal match. I agree with Chuck Mies that Jacob Cole wrestled great. He is an extremely strong wrestler and he is a very good wrestler too. I congratulate Jacob Cole on his victory over my son in the semifinal and his victory the next night in the final for the State championship. Jacob Cole is this year's top 5A 215 wrestler and a great state champion.

I want to thank Jacob Cole's dad who took time Saturday before his son's final match to come find me in the Aquinas section and introduce himself to me. This was a very difficult loss for my son. Mr. Cole was very kind and gracious to me and my wife in our brief meeting. He had some very nice things to say to my wife and I about my son. These kind words came at a very good time for my wife and I. I was very impressed with Mr. Cole doing this. I should not be surprised because I have always been impressed with the entire Bishop Carroll wrestling community. Great high school wrestlers come from Bishop Carroll and the coaches, families and supporters are first class. It has been great watching the team and individual competitions with Bishop Carroll over the last three years. Best of luck to the Jacob Cole ant the rest of the Bishop Carroll wrestlers in the future.
Posted By: ChuckMies

Re: Biggest upsets at state? 5A and 6A - 03/02/09 07:05 PM


Vince, thank you for the gracious comments to our program.

We are very fortunate to have a coaching staff that teaches much more than wrestling to these young men. I would like to extend my personal thanks to the Coach Eshelman and the entire coaching and administration staff at BCCHS. You taught my son many things this year.
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