Hunter is pretty excited were going to monster match, then were going to the tulsa kick off 3 weeks later so hes pretty pumped.

Two years ago at Brute Adidas Ntls. They don't seed it and we drew each other first round. Kale was up 3-0 with about 15 secs left and Sederburg started to reverse him. Kale should have given up the reversal, but he wouldn't let go and ended up giving up 2 back pts as time expired....lost 4-3. They both won the rest of their matches by pins or tech falls. Would like to have had that one back. He was 46 at Kickoff last yr but cut to 43 for Tulsa Ntls. He lost to Moran in one semi when Kale lost to Stephens in the other.

were pretty excited rmn is doing a tournament in oregon this year and wre hopeing alot of kids from out of state end up coming the dates are dec 11,12 it should be a pretty good tournament

He's got a bigger frame than most of the kids we talked about....wouldn't be surprised if he can't make 46 this year, but would like to get a re-match sometime.

how close was the moran guttierrez match at tulsa nationals?

Oregon is a long ways for us poor Kansans. It would be nice to go that far and see all new kids though.

It was close.....something like 7-5 I think....Moran beat him pretty bad the year before when they were a weight heavier than Kale, but Gutierrez closed the gap last year. I think Gutierrez has beat him at least once, but I don't remember for sure. Overall, Moran has won most of the time.

how close were rocky and moran?

I saw your other post asking about weights for Kale, Michael Spangler and Boo Dryden. I'm not sure of weights, but Michael and Boo are both 10U's.

5-1 if I remember right. Gutierrez beat Kale 4-2 and then beat Sederburg for 3rd. I think that was a 4-5 point win but I don't remember the exact score.

rocky likes to chin whip doesnt he? i watched him 2 years ago in reno

Gutierrez beat Stephens pretty bad in the challenge match for 2nd. Something like 9-3.

Oh yeah....in Tulsa Finals in 08, Rocky kept Kale in front headlock position for most of the match trying to throw it. That was a good lesson though. He has several counters now so at least he learned something from that loss. Rocky will beat a mediocre kid 2-0 but he gets up for certain kids and can turn it up. It's all about your style when you wrestle him.

moran was 46 at eastern worlds so i wander if he can stay down there???

I don't know....hope so because Kale has never got to wrestle him and he really wants to (and so do I).

us to we were up in reno 2 years ago 6-4 with 15 sec left he got a escape and took us down with 3 seconds left in the semis

Those matches are tough when they happen that way (like Kale vs Sederburg). Maybe we'll both get to see Moran this year. He is still pretty short and medium framed so I would think that he is more likely to make 46 than Sederburg. I'm guessing that 46 will have Moran, Stephens, Gutierrez, Kale, E Miller, you, and maybe Alirez ( but he only came to Tulsa Ntls in 07). That should be pretty tough, plus some of last years' 40# kids may have grown more too. Thomas and Hussaini are both pretty good 40's from last year, but it was tough to judge them against the kids that they wrestled. Kale wrestled Thomas twice the year before but never met up with Hussaini even though he was in the same bracket several times.

its getting late im going to bed its been good talking to you well see ya around take care

thomas was in our bracket in reno this year he got 4th

Me too....talk to you again later.....take care