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Who's going to FR, SO, JR High School Nationals? #58142 03/02/05 09:47 PM
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Who's going to Lincoln April 1-3 for the High School Nationals for freshmen, sophomores and juniors? There, now we don't have to have them all mixed up. And thanks, Mr. Church!

Re: Who's going to FR, SO, JR High School Nationals? #58143 03/02/05 10:08 PM
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how do you get entered into these or is the deadline already passed? thanks


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???

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You can register up until March 28th (I think) and do it online. Here is the link.
http://www.brute.com/bruteadidasnationals/register.asp

Re: Who's going to FR, SO, JR High School Nationals? #58146 03/03/05 02:42 AM
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Artie Squire will be there at 160

Re: Who's going to FR, SO, JR High School Nationals? #58147 03/03/05 02:46 AM
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im gonna talk to a bunc of kids and see if they want to go up tere together. if anyone wants to go let me know cause my coach was interested in douin this

Re: Who's going to FR, SO, JR High School Nationals? #58148 03/03/05 03:00 AM
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does anybody know about how many kids are in each bracket or an estimation...jw how big of a tourney it is...


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Re: Who's going to FR, SO, JR High School Nationals? #58149 03/03/05 11:40 PM
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??????????


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Re: Who's going to FR, SO, JR High School Nationals? #58150 03/10/05 03:35 AM
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Can anyone tell me if there is a rule disallowing the high school wrestling coaches from participating in this event? We have teacher/coaches and volunteer coaches?

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No, i don't think there are any rules against that. You can have your highschool coach, coach you at nationals.

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No, i don't think there are any rules against that. You can have your highschool coach, coach you at nationals.
I would check with Mr. Salyer about that first. This is a folkstyle event and if I'm not mistaken your high school coach cannot coach you under KSHSAA rules.


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I believe the rules state that the only exception to a wrestling coach being able to coach any member of his high school team, including incoming freshman,is the Senior National Tournament. Freestyle and Greco are different. As long as the school year has ended, you can work with them again in those styles as they are deemed at different sport, I think. My rules book is at home, I'm sure someone can come up with the specific rule though.

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I believe the rules state that the only exception to a wrestling coach being able to coach any member of his high school team, including incoming freshman,is the Senior National Tournament. Freestyle and Greco are different. As long as the school year has ended, you can work with them again in those styles as they are deemed at different sport, I think. My rules book is at home, I'm sure someone can come up with the specific rule though.
That is my understanding as well. Of course the Senior Nationals doesn't matter because they have used up all their eligibility so the KSHSAA is no longer concerned.


Re: Who's going to FR, SO, JR High School Nationals? #58155 03/10/05 10:26 PM
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Rule 30
SEASONS OF ACTIVITIES
Section 1: General Regulations (apply to grades 7-12)

Art. 3: During the school year a coach/coach’s aide may only be involved with his/her athletes in a sport during the season.

During the school year, prior to or after season, a coach/coach’s aide may not:
a. Organize or conduct practices or competitions for his/her athletes. However, a coach may be involved in one organizational meeting for a non-school league to assure no more than three of his/her athletes in basketball, six in 11-Man football, five in 8-Man football, four in volleyball, six in soccer, five in baseball, or five in softball are on the same outside team;
(See Rules 32-1, 33-1-5, 35-1-2, 38-1, 39-1, 43-1-1.)
b. Practice or compete with or against his/her athletes;
c. Attend clinics or camps with his/her athletes.
Following the season of sport, seniors may receive instruction from their school coach, in the same sport.


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My experiences in the past and understanding based on that and discussions with Bowden are that you can coach NO wrestling, folkstyle, freestyle or greco, to "your" athletes during the school year except during the wrestling season. Freestyle and greco-roman are not considered to be different in Kansas. You may coach your athletes in the summer in any style. You may coach your seniors after their final season immediately in any style, you do not have to wait until summer. That is why coaches could be involved in the Senior National, coaching their seniors. You could not however coach your underclassman out of season until summer. In Oklahoma, freestyle and greco-roman are considered to be different from folkstyle. As a result, their coaches can coach their athletes any time of the year in freestyle and greco-roman, just not in folkstyle which they can only coach during the wrestling season and the summer. This might explain part of the reason as to why Oklahoma has a stronger freestyle program and almost always places higher in the National Duals and the National Tournament in Fargo. This could also affect the development of wrestlers in general in Kansas as opposed to Oklahoma because fundamentally, folkstyle and freestyle are not much different. When I first started coaching in Oklahoma, freestyle and greco-roman were not considered different and you could not coach "your" athletes out of season in freestyle and greco until summer. Around 1993, the OWCA convinced the OSHSAA that freestyle and greco were vastly different from folkstyle, much like say karate, judo or tai kwan do are different and they found a "loophole" in the system. This is what the KWCA needs to do with the KSHSAA.

Re: Who's going to FR, SO, JR High School Nationals? #58157 03/14/05 06:30 PM
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steven foster and elijah madison are going to nationals in nebraska

Re: Who's going to FR, SO, JR High School Nationals? #58158 03/14/05 08:59 PM
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Quote:
Originally posted by RichardDSalyer:
Rule 30
SEASONS OF ACTIVITIES
Section 1: General Regulations (apply to grades 7-12)

Art. 3: During the school year a coach/coach’s aide may only be involved with his/her athletes in a sport during the season.

During the school year, prior to or after season, a coach/coach’s aide may not:
a. Organize or conduct practices or competitions for his/her athletes. However, a coach may be involved in one organizational meeting for a non-school league to assure no more than three of his/her athletes in basketball, six in 11-Man football, five in 8-Man football, four in volleyball, six in soccer, five in baseball, or five in softball are on the same outside team;
(See Rules 32-1, 33-1-5, 35-1-2, 38-1, 39-1, 43-1-1.)
b. Practice or compete with or against his/her athletes;
c. Attend clinics or camps with his/her athletes.
Following the season of sport, seniors may receive instruction from their school coach, in the same sport.
What if you only have 1 set of coach's for Jr High, High School, and Kids?


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Originally posted by RichardDSalyer:
Rule 30
SEASONS OF ACTIVITIES
Section 1: General Regulations (apply to grades 7-12)

Art. 3: During the school year a coach/coach’s aide may only be involved with his/her athletes in a sport during the season.

During the school year, prior to or after season, a coach/coach’s aide may not:
a. Organize or conduct practices or competitions for his/her athletes. However, a coach may be involved in one organizational meeting for a non-school league to assure no more than three of his/her athletes in basketball, six in 11-Man football, five in 8-Man football, four in volleyball, six in soccer, five in baseball, or five in softball are on the same outside team;
(See Rules 32-1, 33-1-5, 35-1-2, 38-1, 39-1, 43-1-1.)
b. Practice or compete with or against his/her athletes;
c. Attend clinics or camps with his/her athletes.
Following the season of sport, seniors may receive instruction from their school coach, in the same sport.
What if you only have 1 set of coaches for Jr High, High School, and Kids?


Yours in wrestling,

The Swayz
swayz.wrestling@gmail.com recruiting help, promoting the sport& more!
Re: Who's going to FR, SO, JR High School Nationals? #58160 03/21/05 12:21 AM
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Anyone going to this event in 135,140,145 weights?


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