I think what Mr. Moeder is trying to say is Drop It. Both sides, those who agree and disagree with the call. The match is over, I believe that both sides have gotten to tell their side of the story. Now let it go. There are always 3 sides to a story; 1)Mine, 2)Yours, and 3)The Truth. Let the kids get back to wrestling. I am sure a call will be made this weekend that we can all take sides on.

And in college you get investigated and put on probation.

Cameron,

". . .the ref . . . was even considering kicking him out for the (w)hole season."

A referee has no authority to suspend a wrestler for any period of time beyond the tournament he is working.

You guys having some problems with Kapaun Mount Carmel and Bishop Carroll down your way? I am not sure how much success these programs have had in recent years, but I doubt that they bend the rules any more than some of the public schools. Having competed in a league with Thomas More Prep in high school, I can see where such conclusions would arise concerning private schools. I just don't think that accusing them of cheating is appropriate.

I am not sure what you are talking about here but I can assure you that my comment had nothing to do with KMC or BC or any other private school in Kansas. It was merely a sarcastic comment about what happens to successful programs in college as a response to the jealousy comment. In college its not just everyone is jealous, you literally do get investigated and 9 times out of 10 if they investigate, they will find an infraction.

hanging chads again!

Do you think there is a correlation to us CHAD's being a problem.

i guess if we can't agree to disagree, the grievance committee will need to step in and settle this argument.

I apologize for misconstruing your post. I did not see the sarcasm, only a jab at private schools for their perceived improprieties in recruiting. As I stated, competing against TMP in high school, it was an easy way for us to justify getting beat by them when we did (they must cheat). Today, I believe that they were just better than us. Again, I misconstrued your post, and for that, I apologize.

terrible call maybe that ref should start refing some paticake.

Mr. Cokeley and Mr. Moeder are both great guys. And, I'd bet you a dollar that they know, like and respect each other.

"I don't have to be your twin, to be your brother."

really cant tell if it was a closed or open hand, was not there so dont really want to say anything about the match. But I do want to know why Beeson and sportfan02 are not all over Mr.Cokeley for talking with the ref. the last gentleman that said he went up and talked with the ref got ripped for it, seems like these guys pick who they choose to argue with and keep quite when they think they will be made fools of if they argue with others.
Mr.Moeder you are a good sport, I really like watching your son wrestle, good luck to him and I'm sure he has learned from this.

I have given up on trying to educate Mr. Cokeley about the lost art of proper sportsmanship! I do appreciate the way Mr. Moeder has handled the entire matter.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JhdMJNOVew8
moader ejection

Whoever appointed you to 'educate Mr. Cokeley'? From the way he writes and promotes KS wrestling, he seems to be well-educated already. Did he ask for your help? Let me guess. Hmmm... No....

He admitted that what his son did was wrong. He said he would talk to his son about it. He was EXPLAINING the situation, not EXCUSING it. There is a big difference between the two.

What do you want, a gallon of his blood or his head on a platter? Or what? For him to be your twin?

Diversity is cool. You might want to try it. Just a suggestion. It is not my job to educate you (Thank God).

KansasWrestling1 is not wanting blood or a head I think he is trying to prove his point towards idiots who say his boy was crying about nothing, after seeing this side of the mat, yes he should have been DQ like he was, the ref had every right to do what he done. And like Mr. Moeder says his boy will learn from this.

I was simply referring to him (sportsfan1) wanting to 'educate Mr. Cokeley'.

still doesn't show closed fist or not. can see moeder say something, but don't see referee giving a warning. oh well it's over time to move on.

BS. false start and unnecessary roughness. No fist, just a hard open handed check to the back of the head. He was wrestling, not fighting. Please refrain from "pussifying" the sport.

What this video revealed more than anything is that the camera operator needs to invest in a tripod.

I strongly agree that Beeson's signature does say it all. Moeder should send the video to college recruiters/coaches. His stock will go up!