X,

Yes, I did take the time to look at the brackets because your previous statement about 5A and 6A regionals being more difficult than 4A and 321A struck a nerve because you were making an "off the cuff" statement with no data to back it up.

I'd like to point out that I couldn't look at the Hoisington and Holton regionals because the sites are no longer on the internet. In addition I could not view the 215 or 285 lb brackets because of an apparent glitch. Losing those two regionals and weight classes combined for 40 brackets I could not view.

That means 7 out of 72 brackets were listed in my previous post for being difficult because of wins or winning percentage. This is roughly 10 percent of brackets in 321A and 4A being nearly as "difficult" as the state championships.

Just to make a estimate on the number of brackets that I was not able to view I would say that 4 more brackets would have 8 wrestlers with near or at 20 wins.

Here is a bracket that had 5 wrestlers with 20 plus wins in 6A.
http://www.kansaswrestling.org/mhs/mhsbrk013.htm

By your logic it was not a tough bracket because none of the wrestlers were ranked in the Chief's All-Class Rankings at the time of the tournament. (Note: Alex Chaparro of Wichita East ended the year ranked 7th in All-Class after his state tournament performance.)

Of the 7 brackets I showed you, 6 had a wrestler who was ranked in the All-Class standings at the time of Regionals and then after State. In one of those brackets two wrestlers exchanged who was ranked in All-Class.

I'll show you some brackets from the three 5A and 6A regionals that had records attached to the results.

Here is another bracket with 5 wrestlers with 20 plus wins.
http://www.kansaswrestling.org/shhs/shhsbrk010.htm

Here is a bracket with 4 wrestlers with 20 plus wins.
http://www.kansaswrestling.org/shhs/shhsbrk013.htm

Here is a bracket with 4 wrestlers with 20 plus wins.
http://www.kansaswrestling.org/shhs/shhsbrk011.htm

The 103 bracket was the only one with 4 wrestlers who had 20 plus wins.
http://www.kansaswrestling.org/images/docs/Results/10TournResults/newtonregional.pdf

In all that is 5 brackets out of 42 with half the wrestlers having 20 plus wins. That is around 12% with "quality" competition. Now I could go and look back at the 4A and 321A brackets that are available and come up with similar numbers, but I don't think it will prove anything.

The whole argument/debate of perceived toughness of qualifying in 5A or 6A lies in brackets like this that have 4 total wrestlers and only one has a winning record.
http://www.kansaswrestling.org/shhs/shhsbrk002.htm

On a side note, the mark of 20 wins is not exactly a way to clarify if a wrestler is going to produce at state. Often at 103 and 285 you will see wrestlers with inflated records because they have accepted opens in duals throughout the season. In addition a number of high school wrestlers miss competition dates throughout the season due to injury, illness, or other reasons. For instance on one of the brackets I looked at it included Daniel Deshazer of Wichita Heights who did not have 20 wins coming into regionals because of injury problems. Deshazer not having 20 wins kept me from counting that bracket.

With today's wrestling tournament schedules 20 wins is much easier to happen across because many teams are going to pool or dual format tournaments. This helps to achieve more mat time utilizing the 30 participation points and in many cases equates to higher win totals for wrestlers. I guess what I'm trying to get at is don't get too hung up on the 20 win mark especially when the wrestler's record is close to .500. Now if they have 30 wins that's a different story.