Colt Rogers

I would like to congradulate Colt on a wonderful High School Career. I see that people were saying his level of compatition was very low in 321a. I would like to no how everybody thought he would do if he was in 4a, 5a, or 6a through his High school career. Would he be a 4 timer in an of those classes?

Here is my guesses.
4a
Fr. 1st (Ryan Canale, Zach Peters?)
So. top 3 (Second best in bracket behind Trent Cox)
Jr. Top 3 (Second best behind Ryne Cokeley)
Sr. top 3 (second best behind Taylor Moeder)

5a
Fr. top 4 (Nitcher and Jordan Keller)
So. Top 3 (John Keller)
Jr. 1st (You have Biddle, Blew, and Penka tho)
Sr. 1st (Charbonneau?)

6a
Fr. Top 6 (Parker M., Chase Nelson, Kuty Russell, Chaz Lawrence, alonso Hernandez, Diamond Wilson)
So. Top 3 (2nd best behind Nathen McCormick)
Jr. Top 3 (2nd Behind Trent Cox
Sr. 1st

IMO Mr. Rogers would have been competitive in any or all classes.
Wrestling matches are wrestling matches. A winner and a loser in every match. Mr. Rogers has shown time and time again that he can rise to the level of competition that he is facing.

Taking nothing away from any of the top wrestlers regardless of high school classification. Great Wrestlers wrestling Great Wrestlers prove to be remarkable matches.

YES, I believe Colt Rogers would have accepted to challenges and been a 4X state champion in any classification.


Oh yeah,, The gent can play a bit of football as well.

He is obviously a great wrestler and could have won some state championships at other classes, but he probably would not have been a 4xer. I am not bashing him or 123A. There are several 4xers that would not have been close if they were in other classes.

For example, Trisham Graham(sp?) How many losses did he have to other Kansas wrestlers? 98 - 29 career record. He may have barely made Chief's All Class Ranking, However he got the job done when it counted.

I think Colt Rogers is more accomplished and deserving than a few of the other 4xers Kansas has had.

Colt Rogers is an amazing wrestler. I don't think we can say how he would of done just by looking at other people and guessing if he would of won or lost. I personally have watched him wrestle all four year of High School and i am pretty sure he can hold his own with just about anyone you put against him. And if there's anyone who thinks that 321a is weak how bout they come to our regional out west every year and see if they can qualify. In 5a and 6a its easy to qualify for state "most of the time" because in a lot of weight classes there may be only 5 kids in a bracket. Just my input. Feel free to argue with me.

here We Go Again

Colt very well could of been a four timer in any division. A lot of your four timers in other class solely focus on wrestling whereas colt is a multi sport athlete as was Gilland and Gabel.

This whole arguement is pointless except to demean what Colt has done, You can't just take a snapshot of a season and place him in another class, you can only judge him and what he accomplished on his team, with his schedule, in his weight class there are way too many variables, Conngrats to Colt on a fantastic high school career good luck in whatever he does from here on out, I will miss watching him wrestle

The kid never lost to a Kansas wrestler. I got on here expecting to see someone congratulating him on one of the most amazing careers in Kansas history and instead it's a ridiculous thread about classes again.

Noone has beat him. He's not "second best" to anybody until someone proves it with more than an opinion on a talk forum.

Well said. I agree. Most of us have never won one championship (I never did), let alone 4.

Props to Colt!

The fact remains....HE IS A 4X STATE CHAMPION. No one can ever take that from him. I agree with dwelsh. How many of you people, who are second guessing him, have ever won just one state championship? Don't belittle someone else just because you couldn't get it done.

Congratulations Colt!!!!

When he was in junior high Colt's parents would drive him 3 hours to my house so he could set in a van for a 10 hour drive to wrestle at school boy duals. 13 hours of driving to seek out competition. I have never seen him shy away from any match anywhere. He was one of the toughest competitors I have ever met. It was a privilege to be involved in a small part of his wrestling career. I have no doubt Colt will be a success at whatever he does.

All these "Fab 5" and other rankings should taken down by the adults who post them. They are pointless and do nothing to encourage kids to wrestle.

Thanks for sharing the info on Colt and excellent point about "fab 5's" I never thought of that. Thank you.

i think colt rogers started practicing with cj napiers old partner, CHUCK NORRIS. therefore he would not only make the FAB 5, he would BE THE FAB 5, ALL BY HIMSELF.

Well Mr. Campbell, with Colt's schedule being incredibly weak...it's hard for someone to prove that when colt is not attending any of the high calibur tournaments

He's a 4x State Champion, that's 4 times he's won the only tournament that matters.

What credentials do you have to discredit him?

Im just saying its a very bold statement saying hes the best wrestler in kansas (hes a stud dont get me wrong) and your getting this by only looking at his state finishes. Im sorry to break it to you 321a fans but 321a state is a barely above average tournament. If your tired of being ragged on then back it up and go to newton, the bobcat, garden city ect...

Did the 06 Norton team win the Bobcat?

The fab 5 and the all state rankings really mean nothing at all Colt Rogers won 4 titles and played 2 other sports at the higest level. How many four time state champs can say they won 3 football titles 3 team wrestling titles plus track. To say 3a is weak come on would you say lyle geyer was weak?

No they won the Newton tournament. They had several finalist and some backside help. They won it by a decent margin considering how tough all of the teams are that attend Newton. I believe Roe took 1st at 160 over Lund of Clay Center (he also beat Cotton of Hutchinson in a thriller during the semis), Bainter took 2nd at 112 to Ankerman of Hutchinson, Madden took 2nd at 119 to Ely of Leavenworth (I think Ely won outstanding wrestler after he majored Madden), and Broeckelman of Norton took 2nd at 125 to Nothern of Salina South (this was a barnburner), Stanley took 2nd at 171 to a kid from Perry,OK (Stanley failed to qualify to state). I want to say that Norton had a couple of placers on the backside Kent Mann at 130, one of the Hardings at 135 or 145 placed, and Pfanenstiel at 152. It was a very impressive performance by the Bluejays and I think they got a little help in the seeding meeting by Coach Johnson, but they proved it on the mat.

Not to mention runner-up finishes for his football and wrestling teams this past year. He also has a treasure trove of KSHSAA track medals.

Anklepick, What are YOUR CREDENTIALS? What have YOU DONE in wrestling?

Any wrestler that can win four HS State Championships, and I don't care what class, is a stud in my opinion. Great job young man.

Pretty solid football player (my other favorite HS sport) indeed. There was another Rogers from Smith Center back in the early '80s that was pretty darn good too and even played a little football at KU while I was there.

COLT will be coming to pitt state to play football, i have a whole yard full of combat sport arenas, and styles. anyone who wants a shot at the title can come over and earn their shot at the title. UNTIL SOMEONE BEATS HIM HE IS THE CHAMP, ONCE YOU ARE A CHAMP YOU ARE ALWAYS A CHAMP. NO ONE CAN EVER TAKE THAT AWAY.

JEALOUS MUCH?

And Intermat should close down. How dare they rank wrestlers. Don't they understand that feelings are hurt?

Strawman. I never proposed shutting down the net. I, like Mr. Disney was just wondering what positive things the kids get out of it?

Purpose?

And some people just like running up there post count

PM'd you. This thread is for Colt Rogers. The kid is a flat out stud, as I've said in earlier posts.

im just going to go ahead and say that Colt Rogers could not beat Kyle Johnson anyone who has that close of a match with Moeder 3 OT's is a dominate wrestler to me

This is ridiculous. People like you were a lot quieter when western kansas was the hands down best in the state. You make these accusations and I bet that you've never even seen the tournament.

I don't know everyone that Rogers has beat, but here's a couple off the top of my head: Colt beat Collin Hase twice who just became an all-american. The last time I counted Jace Campbell had beaten 9 wrestlers on Chief's All-Class Rankings including #1's Zac Sparr (freestyle) and Tyler Anderson (kids state '07 or '08). Colt beat Jace twice freshman year, handily.

When Caldwell and Beard won their 4th, did you hear anything but congratulations from us? Did we make any dumbass comments like the fact that every wrestler Caldwell beat at state had 7 losses? Did we make a huge fuss when Kriss pinned Beard? They were awesome wrestlers and we gave them the respect they deserved.

By the way I didn't say that Colt was hands down the best wrestler in Kansas. I said that he's not second best to anyone until someone proves it with more than an opinion on a talk forum, referring to the initial post where he was presumed to be "second best" to several people in a retro-dated mock state at each class.

Tradition is the difference. Fans of Schools who have been on Top for so long know what it takes to be there and they show respect to all. Fans of schools who win one once in a blue moon don't know how to act. They want everyone to immediately say they are now a DYNASTY without putting in the years of hard work. Most of the people talking all of the trash have never wrestled. They don't know what it takes to be on top. It makes them feel better to diminish a Great wrestlers career, to make up for the one they never had.

I meant to reply to this post earlier and a couple of you beat me to it with similar thoughts. This post is meant to congratulate Colt on an amazing accomplishment. I for one am SICK of people immediately jumping into a subject like this with the ,"Yes, but...", or "he wouldn't beat so and so", or "he did it in a weak class". When Colt was a freshman, all crowds cheered for him ("Wow, what an incredible freshman!"), and by this year it has (sometimes) degenerated into cheering against him and many cases outright booing . This is not what we all call the "wrestlers mentality" people!! For once let's not follow the direction of our society as a whole and try to tear down the accomplishments of others or make excuses when we fall short. I was FORTUNATE enough to coach matches against Colt, and was privileged to see him win all 4 state titles. I want to congratulate him on an accomplishment only dreamed of by most of us. He did it with class and dignity. He exemplified what we all love about wrestling. Best of luck at Pitt State.

The class size one wrestles in is deturmined by the enrollment of a school and a student has no choice in the matter. It is year to year who has the tuffist kids at what state tourn. in a particular weight class. This year for example some kids placed higher at larger class states then they would have wrestling in 3A State. I know you all can look at the brackets and figure this out. The agumanent is extreemly mute. The way some of you folks think is discusting and has no place in the wrestling community. It's like saying; If a 3A kid goes to a "prestigious" tournament and places above larger class kids those larger class kids must suck. Let's see didn't Kapaun win the Grand States? A 3-A team in the day?
A 4 timer is a 4 timer in my book and they should enjoy and GET total respect from the wrestling community unbias of class size. I mean there are only 25 who have done it people.
Mr. Rogers - You are a Champion of Champions and no person should dispute that. Good luck with your future endevors and continue to be the Champion you are and have earned.

I agree with Mr. Campbell.

Also,

If you look at the state brackets from the past 4 years you will find a couple of other state champions that Colt has beaten.

Just to name a few that I noticed:

Dan Weigel
Devin Frye
Jace Campbell
Collin Hase
Kaenon Keiswetter
Aaron Patton
Landon Keiswetter
Dalton Davis

Dylan hit it right on the button. I also think that there is a few kids out west that would destroy sum kids in bigger schools but they never get the chance and the same goes for kids in bigger schools against kids out west. By the way dylan, tell Jace congrats on gettin that title.

That's really impressive! Especially the win over Collin Hase! Does he have any other wins over kids from bigger schools?

All iam saying about Colt is hes had a great high school carear didnt people say the same thing about Trison Grahm because of how many losses he had that he wasnt deserving of 4? But i dont know if he still is but i know at some point in the year he was nationally rank in a d2 program? Colt rogers great yes in a high school stand point any one that can not see that is plan dum!!! just my point

broncho what credintals do you have...

Colt Congratulations these people are idiots. Please rethink Pitt sate. Its hard to stomach that a 4 timer is not going to wrestle in college. There are a few D1 schools south of Kansas that could use you. 5a people are starting to sound like the guy from "My New Hair Cut" (watch at own risk very funny with some bad words)

Grand State would solve all of this. top 4 placers in each state tournament would make a good 16 man Grand State..then we'd know for sure how he'd do against the kids from bigger schools

Agree. But do it with only the top 2 placers. No backside. You lose and your are out. Could wrestle the semi losers if you want to go to 4 placers. With no backside could probably do it in 4 hours--a nice Saturday afternoon.

The fact is Colt did all he could do.He beat all the ks wrestlers and is a 4x state champ.You cant measure heart.I think he would be a 4x champ no matter what. Give the kid his props!

Some of these posts are PATHETIC!!! The one's who posted negative comments must be jealous?!?!?! Colt is a good wrestler as well as a good football player. People can sit and say what he could be if he was in 4A, 5A Etc. But he's not!! He ia 321A Wrestler who WON 4 state CHAMPIONSHIPS!!!! Congratulations on a GREAT Football Career and a Great Wrestling Career!! Well deserved!!!