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Senior Nationals

Posted By: wrestling67

Senior Nationals - 03/11/10 12:49 AM

Just curious as to if the final roster is complete and when we can see them listed?
Posted By: WillyM

Re: Senior Nationals - 03/11/10 04:29 PM

Is the Senior Nationals made up of state teams, or just idividual wrestlers? Are they wearing team uniforms? Does each individual pay his own way, or are the Kansas wrestlers supported by KWCA, USA HAWKS, or some other group(s)?
Posted By: Chief Renegade

Re: Senior Nationals - 03/11/10 04:38 PM

http://www.gimpsoftware.com/IndividualEntry/NHSCA/weights1.htm

We have no Seniors on this entry list????

Juniors entered:
140 - Bradley Little
145 - Ryne Cokeley

Sophomores entered:
130 - Miles Johns

No Freshmen entered...
Posted By: Dylan Campbell

Re: Senior Nationals - 03/11/10 05:18 PM

Hopefully they got us all entered. We sent all of our info to the Elvin's. They sent us a list of wrestlers that had signed up for nationals and there were quite a few on that list.
Posted By: Chief Renegade

Re: Senior Nationals - 03/11/10 05:22 PM

I just learned that the entry list is not complete. Those listed have entered on their own. You guys are fine, I'm sure.
Posted By: James Stout

Re: Senior Nationals - 03/11/10 08:09 PM

That is very typical for the KS seniors not to have entries online until a little later. Dont worry seniors, Chuck and Cherie have you covered.
Posted By: oldfan

Re: Senior Nationals - 03/11/10 08:52 PM

Just curious.
After looking through the list I see that some of the kids did not finish 1st or 2nd at their high school State Championships.
I thought you had to be a state finalist at some point during your high school career to qualify for Senior Nationals.
Is that just a Kansas rule??
Posted By: LancerLou

Re: Senior Nationals - 03/11/10 08:58 PM

I know even in Kansas you can petition to attend Sr Nationals if you did not make the finals. I am not sure of the criteria for this to be approved. It particularly makes sense when often the toughest matches are in the semis due to the way our state brackets are set.
Posted By: oldfan

Re: Senior Nationals - 03/11/10 09:10 PM

LancerLou, I did not know you could 'petition' to attend either, very interesting.
According to the list provided from a link posted by Chief, some of the kids did not even place at a State Tournament.
Chief, Cokeley or anybody that may know; what is the criteria to qualify for this event. Does it vary state to state?? Is their events held during the summer that will qualify a kid??
Again, just curious..
Posted By: wrestling67

Re: Senior Nationals - 03/11/10 09:14 PM

On the web site certain states are allowed the lower than 1st or 2nd. Kansas is not one of those states, I believe because those states only wrestle one State Championship, I could be wrong though.
Posted By: Wrestlin Scholar

Re: Senior Nationals - 03/11/10 09:27 PM

States that have one class like California and Indiana are granted a spot for placing in the top 8. Some other states are allowed top 4 due to having two or three classes. Kansas is a multiple class state and so they want the top 2. The petition process is available for kids that maybe just missed placing, had tough competition or had an injury. I've seen they've been pretty liberal in the past in approving petitions. So if you kid that 3rd and wants to go, the NHSCA would likely approve.
Posted By: dadofhwt

Re: Senior Nationals - 03/11/10 09:37 PM

Eric Mason -215 will be attending SOPHOMORE nationals
Posted By: NCCC WRESTLING

Re: Senior Nationals - 03/11/10 09:49 PM

Originally Posted By: LancerLou
I know even in Kansas you can petition to attend Sr Nationals if you did not make the finals. I am not sure of the criteria for this to be approved. It particularly makes sense when often the toughest matches are in the semis due to the way our state brackets are set.


Great example was when Dante Rogers of Wichita NW lost to Nathan Furches of Derby in the semis and had to battle back and take 3rd. Rogers petitioned and then took 5th at 103 Senior Nationals.
Posted By: James Stout

Re: Senior Nationals - 03/11/10 10:27 PM

Yes you are correct. If you lose to the Champion and take 3rd, a petition process is possible. That only applies to Senior Nationals. You do not need to qualify/place at state for the Freshman, So., Jr. nationals.
Posted By: nastyway

Re: Senior Nationals - 03/11/10 11:54 PM

rogers also wrestled at 103 at seniors so he only had to win like 1 match to place and maybe 2 to get 5th so not the perfect example
Posted By: James Stout

Re: Senior Nationals - 03/12/10 12:59 AM

Originally Posted By: nastyway
rogers also wrestled at 103 at seniors so he only had to win like 1 match to place and maybe 2 to get 5th so not the perfect example


I dont think we are talking about the same thing. But yes 103 is usually less than full 16 man brackets. This has been even more true since they changed the rules so you cannot drop a weight after state. Just not that many 103lb Seniors.
Posted By: RichardDSalyer

Re: Senior Nationals - 03/14/10 06:52 PM

Weight - Last First - HS - State Placings
112 - BOYER TREVOR - Mill Valley - NP-NP-1-2
112 - MILLER DALTON - Campus - NP-3-4-1
119 - ANTILLON FRANISCO - Scott Community - 1-NP-NP-6
119 - DAVIS DENZELL - Fort Scott - NP-NP-NP-2
119 - SMITH BLAINE - Salina South - 6-1-3-1
125 - JONES GARRETT - Arkansas City - NP-2-1-2
125 - SINGULAR LOGAN - Clay Center Communit - 4-2-2-4
130 - ROGERS COLT - Smith Center - 1-1-1-1
135 - BIDDLE KASH - Arkansas City - 4-4-2-1
135 - CAMPBELL JACE - Oakley - 2-3-2-1
135 - NITCHEr CHASE - Valley Center - 3-2-1-1
140 - ANDERSON TYLER - Clay Center Communit - 5-3-2-1
140 - FLOYD DAN - Osborne - 5-1-1-1
140 - OLIVER VANCE - Winfield - NP-NP-2-2
145 - DAVIS TYLER - McPherson - NP-3-2-1
145 - MORGAN AARON - Abilene - 2-1-2-2
145 - OLIVER TREVOR - Osborne - NP-NP-3-2
145 - WELLER DERRICK - Piper - 2-4-NP-3
152 - BLAIR CADE - Valley Center - NP-1-1-1
152 - CHARLAND DILLON - Junction City - NP-2-2-2
152 - HILLER TRIP - Olathe South - 5-NP-3-1
152 - SEIBEL JASON - Salina South - 6-NP-4-1
160 - HAMBLETON JOHN - Labette County - NP-NP-1-1
171 - ARMSTRONG BENNY - Andale - 4-3-2-2
171 - MADL PARKER - Blue Valley - 6-2-1-1
171 - ROYAL EVON - Junction City - NP-NP-3-2
189 - WALKER DYLON - ElDorado - NP-NP-5-1
215 - CAYLOR KYLE - Wichita NW - 2-1-1-1
215 - JIRAK ETHAN - Oakley - NP-NP-5-1
215 - PEARCH NICK - Blue Valley - NP-6-2-3
215 - WUTHNOW TAYLOR - Abilene - NP-NP-2-1
285 - PAGE TREY - Wichita NW - 4-NP-2-1
285 - RICE JERED - Phillipsburg - NP-2-1-3
Posted By: husker44

Re: Senior Nationals - 03/14/10 07:35 PM

I don't think Blair is going to make 135
Posted By: wrestling67

Re: Senior Nationals - 03/15/10 12:05 AM

Which weight did he certify or wrestle at this year? In order for him to be eligable for 135 he had to certify at that weight this year. You may not compete at a weight lower than your state certification weight.
Should your state not have the weight certification system in place, you may not wrestle lower than the weight you competed at the 2009-10 State Dual Meet Championships or Individual State Championships.

mel
Posted By: HEADUP

Re: Senior Nationals - 03/15/10 01:12 AM

it has to be a typo, he wrestled 152
Posted By: Dean Welsh

Re: Senior Nationals - 03/15/10 01:13 AM

Amen to that. I don't see how Cade could make 135! If he did make it, he would be as weak as a 1 day old kitten.
Posted By: lakemats

Re: Senior Nationals - 03/15/10 01:45 AM

i see that floyd and rice are entered in their district tourney hs division. strange?
Posted By: dadofhwt

Re: Senior Nationals - 03/15/10 02:02 AM

lakemats,
I dont see this as strange i know my son wrestled subs and is wrestling districts hs division but not state in order at attend the sophmore nationals.
our reason for doing this is because subs in a requirement in kansas in order to be able to wrestle folkstyle nationals in iowa plus it will help him stay match ready for virginia.
might possibly be the reason floyd and rice are wrestling subs and districts.
Posted By: Paratroop

Re: Senior Nationals - 03/15/10 02:51 AM

I see the names of all those wrestlers and I am getting excited for all of usawks match by match updates! Good luck Team Kansas! We'll be cheering you on!
Posted By: lakemats

Re: Senior Nationals - 03/15/10 02:53 AM

i find it strange because these are qualifing tourneys. i understand the extra mat time but in wrestling these qualifing tourneys you're going to leave bye's in the state tourney. and leave some kids home that would love to compete. it's really a requirment for kids to wrestle subs to compete @ folk nationals? just subs, not districts? or state? again, strange?
Posted By: usawks1

Re: Senior Nationals - 03/15/10 03:12 AM

I'm getting really stoked for this event! This year I will try to give updates and some match summaries throughout.
Posted By: lakemats

Re: Senior Nationals - 03/15/10 03:37 AM

ya randy, you've been so poor at updates in the past! for those of us that cant make you really make us feel like we're there! look forward to the updates!
Posted By: RichardDSalyer

Re: Senior Nationals - 03/15/10 09:09 AM

Originally Posted By: husker44
I don't think Blair is going to make 135
Correction made!
Posted By: usawks1

Re: Senior Nationals - 03/15/10 03:07 PM

This year I will have some expanded duties in other areas but I think I will still be able to do some posting!!
Posted By: Cokeley

Re: Senior Nationals - 03/15/10 03:28 PM

119 - ANTILLON FRANISCO - Scott Community - 1-NP-NP-6

I believe Mr. Antillon was 1-1-NP-6.
Posted By: badbo

Re: Senior Nationals - 03/15/10 03:37 PM

If kids wrestle in subs or district, place then chose to not compete at the next tournament, the 5th place person would move up, etc, etc. There would not be a bye at state unless there is less than 4 people that want to go.
Posted By: BigPin22

Re: Senior Nationals - 03/15/10 09:18 PM

I am generously setting the over under/line at 3 All Americans for Kansas this year, but I am hoping for more.
Posted By: usawks1

Re: Senior Nationals - 03/15/10 11:20 PM

We had 6 last year ... with a National Champ!
Posted By: Gary Ulmer

Re: Senior Nationals - 03/16/10 05:04 PM

As far as team score goes, Kansas is usually one of the front runners at this meet. The heavily populated states have an advantage, but we run with them pretty good. We are almost always one of the best of the less populated states.

Gary Ulmer
Posted By: Brian Blair

Re: Senior Nationals - 03/17/10 02:18 AM

I can guarantee you Cade wont make 135
Posted By: Cokeley

Re: Senior Nationals - 03/17/10 02:19 PM

This year is the first year for FLONATIONALS which will be held in Ohio on the same weekend. I haven't seen a list of entries but it will no doubt impact Virginia Beach. I know Friedly from MO is going to FLO and not many from Missouri got to VA Beach. PA's and OH's studs generally don't attend the VA Beach event either. I haven't seen either of the ALtons, Kindig, Dziewa, Steiber, Jamie Clark, or Peppelman pop up on the entry list yet. Below is the Intermat 100, top 100 seniors in the country. I would like to see how many of them enter. It would be a good statistic to know.

1 Logan Stieber Monroeville OH 125 Ohio State
2 Andrew Alton Central Mountain PA 145 Penn State
3 Chris Villalonga Blair Academy NJ 140 Cornell
4 Marshall Peppelman Central Dauphin PA 160 Cornell
5 Dylan Alton Central Mountain PA 152 Penn State
6 Lee Munster Fox Lake Grant IL 189 Northwestern
7 Mike Evans Blair Academy NJ 189 Iowa
8 Derek Garcia Sedro-Woolley WA 171 Ohio State
9 Josh Kindig Blue Mountain PA 140 Oklahoma State
10 Jamie Clark St. Edward OH 130 Illinois
11 Tyler Beckwith Greene NY 171 Binghamton
12 Nick Moore Iowa City West IA 160 Iowa
13 Frank Cagnina Queen of Peace NJ 130 Lehigh
14 Nick Schenk St. Mark's DE 130
15 Devin Carter Christiansburg VA 125 Virginia Tech
16 Dylan Ness Bloomington Kennedy MN 145 Minnesota
17 Mike McMullan Wyoming Seminary PA 285 Northwestern
18 Ryak Finch Safford AZ 119 Iowa State
19 Josh Dziewa Council Rock South PA 140 Iowa
20 Nick Sulzer St. Edward OH 160 Virginia
21 Sam Sherlock West Mifflin PA 130 Penn State
22 Jimmy Lawson Manchester NJ 285
23 Ryen Nieman Bullock Creek MI 135 Indiana
24 Jackson Morse Lowell MI 152 Illinois
25 Kyle Cowan Cascia Hall Prep OK 215
26 Louis Trujillo Rio Rancho NM 135 Arizona State
27 Joey Cozart Brandon FL 152 Iowa State
28 Ravaughn Perkins Omaha North NE 152
29 Bobby Telford St. Mark's DE 285 Iowa
30 Brandon Wright Warren Central High IN 125 Indiana
31 Jacob Ballweg Waverly Shell-Rock IA 135 Iowa
32 Max Thomusseit Graham OH 189 Pittsburgh
33 Nick Dardanes Oak Park River Forest IL 140 Minnesota
34 Michael Moreno Urbandale IA 171 Iowa State
35 Colin Shober Schuylkill Valley PA 140 Northwestern
36 Nick Arujau Syosset NY 125
37 Mitchell Port Bellefonte PA 125 Edinboro
38 Jerome Robinson St. Ignatius OH 119 Old Dominion
39 Evan Craig Abington Heights PA 285
40 Ty Mitch Aurora OH 119 Virginia Tech
41 Trevor Rupp Pocatello ID 215
42 Robert Kokesh Wagner SD 160 Nebraska
43 Levi Wolfensperger Denver-Tripoli IA 125 Northern Iowa
44 Ben Dorsay Frank W. Cox VA 145
45 Josh Demas Westerville North OH 171 Ohio State
46 Dirk Cowburn Coudersport PA 160 Penn State
47 Anthony Baldosaro Eastern Regional NJ 145 Iowa
48 Nick Visicaro Long Branch NJ 160 Rutgers
49 Alan Waters Park Hill MO 125 Missouri
50 Spencer Myers Selinsgrove PA 215 Maryland
51 Nazar Kulchytskyy Prairie du Chien WI 145
52 Jesse Shanaman Blair Academy NJ 152 Cornell
53 Drake Houdashelt Fort Zumwalt West MO 160 Missouri
54 Evan Knight Urbandale IA 189 Cornell
55 Brad Squire Wadsworth OH 145 Ohio
56 Ronald Coleman Omaha North NE 285
57 Stephen Dutton Rocky Point NY 140 Lehigh
58 Steven Hernandez Bishop Gorman NV 152 Boise State
59 Antonio Giorgio Warwick PA 189 North Carolina
60 Justin DeAngelis Jenks OK 152 Oklahoma
61 Tyler Lehmann West Fargo ND 189 Minnesota
62 Brandon Rolnick Lawrenceville NJ 152 Princeton
63 Mark Hartenstine Easton PA 140 Maryland
64 Brandon Wilbourn Francis Howell Central MO 152 Nebraska
65 Taylor Meeks Orting WA 189 Oregon State
66 Frank Goodwin Arundel MD 130 Maryland
67 Nathan Hoffer Anchorage East AK 140 Arizona State
68 Josh Keszler Sturgis SD 125
69 Nick Proctor Neuqua Valley IL 160 Michigan State
70 Kyven Gadson Waterloo East IA 189 Iowa State
71 Kyle Colling Pioneer NY 215 Oklahoma
72 Kaleb Friedley Park Hill MO 145 Northwestern
73 Eric Hess Benton PA 160 Lehigh
74 Sean McMurray Portage IN 160 Michigan State
75 Tucker Armstrong Kenton Ridge OH 140 Cal Poly
76 Angelo Malvestuto Niagara Wheatfield NY 189 Virginia Tech
77 Michael Kelly Cedar Falls IA 152 Iowa
78 Mike Morales Brick Memorial NJ 135 West Virginia
79 Ronnie Balfour Tulsa Union OK 160 Oklahoma
80 Taylor Walsh Camden Catholic NJ 145
81 Simon Kitzis Wyoming Seminary PA 135 Missouri
82 Vinny Fava Elmwood Park NJ 135 Rider
83 Jake Snider Ponderosa CO 145
84 Carson Kuhn Alta UT 119 Boise State
85 Greg Amos Wenzville Holt MO 145 Nebraska
86 Ryan Callahan Wallkill Valley NJ 171 Princeton
87 Scott Schiller West Fargo ND 215
88 Joe Duca Paulsboro NJ 125 Indiana
89 Mike Rhone Benton PA 119 Lock Haven
90 Alex Polizzi Beloit Memorial WI 215 Northwestern
91 Sean Dolan St. Mark's DE 119 North Carolina State
92 Drew Meulman St. Francis CA 285 Cal Poly
93 Francisco Porras Hobart IN 140 Purdue
94 Dakota Magrew Timberland MO 152 Nebraska
95 Brock Banta South Fremont ID 125
96 Jordan Rich Central Mountain PA 135 Bucknell
97 Patrick Prada DeMatha Catholic MD 125 Navy
98 Quincy Mondaine Muskogee OK 215 Oklahoma
99 Harrison Hightower University School OH 152 Virginia Tech
100 Matt White Woodward OK 152 Old Dominion
Posted By: James Stout

Re: Senior Nationals - 03/17/10 03:14 PM

The FloNationals entries are available on their website. They definately have went right at the NHSCA's throat on this one. I am also interested in how it all shakes out with the top kids. It will undoubtedly water things down a little. FLO is trying to play the "BEST of all classes card" where the NHSCA divides up the classes. (Fr,So,Jr,Sr)
FLO was going to be by invitation only and only the winners of the prestigious tournaments or the top 32 ranked wrestlers in the country were to be allowed. Now it looks as if anyone can enter.
The NHSCA's requirements seem much stricter for the senior tournament which is one of the fascinating things about the NHSCA Senior Nationals.
Everyone avoids the week of the Division 1 nationals although that would be a much better week for us to attend one of these tournaments as many teachers and kids would not have to miss 4-5 days of school. Although I realize, in order for the top Coaches to attend/recruit it must be after the DI's.
Posted By: wrestling67

Re: Senior Nationals - 03/22/10 12:00 PM

We are having our last practice for the Senior Nationals today, all are welcome to join.

Place: Campus High School
Time: 4:30-5:45


Mel
Posted By: NCCC WRESTLING

Re: Senior Nationals - 03/22/10 11:49 PM

Originally Posted By: James Stout
The FloNationals entries are available on their website. They definately have went right at the NHSCA's throat on this one. I am also interested in how it all shakes out with the top kids. It will undoubtedly water things down a little. FLO is trying to play the "BEST of all classes card" where the NHSCA divides up the classes. (Fr,So,Jr,Sr)
FLO was going to be by invitation only and only the winners of the prestigious tournaments or the top 32 ranked wrestlers in the country were to be allowed. Now it looks as if anyone can enter.


Flo is just seeding top 24 in each weight or 32 and then having a qualifying tournament to make it into day 2 of the Flonationals. Place in the top 8 it then goes to a 32 or 40 man bracket. Also the event will be in a location on day then move to the Beast of the East Location on Day 2.
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