Quagmire's Pre-Season Rankings

160 8. Nick Meck – Topeka Heights

Where is Topeka Heights?

There are definitely a lot of very good wrestlers on this list, some of the best for sure. Here is something that I took away from this post:

My son is going into his 10th wrestling season and will be a freshman this year. From this list:

7 - # of wrestlers he has had matches against
18 - # of matches against those seven wrestlers
2 - # of matches he won against those wrestlers
8 - # of past teammates
2 - # of teammates this fall

These statistics are just from my memory, which is a little shady at times. If anyone else wants to throw some stats out from their personal experience, I think it would be fun to see.

Bo Pursel will start at 125 then probably drop to 119, He weighs about 127-128.

Konnor Kriss would have to cut off a leg to make 125

Reinharts are moving back. He will be at Derby. Per Coach Ross.

Great job. I think the Chief will love the competition. A few names are spelled incorrectly, some of the guys are at the wrong weights, Mumaw is hurt for at least half of the season, Conklin pinned Reed at Kids State last year, I think some of the 45's will go 40 which will shake things up, and I think there are a few FR missing that will make some noise too. One at Gardner, one in Russell, one in Fredonia, another at Rossville, and maybe a couple at SJA.

Konnor is weighing 142 right now

Just because you place at State the year before, does not mean that you are on the top 10 list.
There are many variables in each weight class.

Thanks Quagmire, your Pre-Season rankings list is cool. I love lists and stuff like that. I love Chief's list and it is nice to see another take. Do agree with what Chief said about the weights. Just looking at 135 and down, many of the kids will never make those weights. But it is good to get their names out and you obviously put some time and effort into your selections which I appreciate.

As for ReDPloyd's offer, I will bite.
Lincoln Lemon of Goddard has wrestled 21 of the kids over the last 10 years and has beaten over half of them. Based on Quagmire's list, he should be "ranked" at 130, probably 7 or 8. He beat one of the selections twice this past season and won the Classic this past spring in a bracket that had two of those "ranked" individuals. Additionally, Witten has moved to Oklahoma. Not too concerned about the "rankings" right now because he can earn that later although I feel he already has. He wasn't ranked last year in 6A going into state and he placed. But if all those other names are getting props, he certainly deserves that as well.

But again, awesome job Quagmire.
And yes, best wishes to all.
And Chief, can't wait.

I was just obsereving Quags list Hattabaugh 171 ranked 8th.I know its just preseason but come on i have watched him wrestle his whole life and give him all the respect in the world for trying to finish the season last year with a bad hip you should to.

No Trent from Dodge City at HVWT? Only losses in 09-10 to Page and Rice. Second place at 6A state.

jason perez beat hake at state, he beat calderon at goodland 9-5 and would have placed higher then morgan but lost to muligen by a point in the heartbreak round. also beat dustin reed in a duel if that means anything

quagmire wilson should be behind Penka, Baughman and Hattabaugh
all three of them would beat him 10 out of 10 times. spenser is a good kid and has become a good wrestler but he is not at this level yet

Not to worry. Trent will be ranked tomorrow in the All-Class rankings.

I like his ranking, yes, alot of the weights are way off, but so are some of the Chiefs'.

You have to look at the overall performance.

Also, wrestlers that put the work in over the summer should also have the nod over kids that did not, JMO.

there are many variables that go into how you rank kids, and you don't fully understand that until you have tried it your self

I apologize if my comment sounded rude. Let me just say that this was a comment in general. I am sure that you are correct in saying, that this kid should be ranked.
One of the variables that you mentioned was that he has beaten 10 of the kids on the list. That is out of 140 kids listed. I am assuming that the 10 kids that he beat are spread out over many weight classes since it has been ten years time. You also mentioned that he won a tourney with two of those kids listed, but you did not mention whether he faced either one of them.
With different wrestling styles involved,( this is a general statement), sometimes one kid can have another kids number, and still not be an overall better wrestler.

XGHSWC, here is a question for you. Cass Steele wrestles for Jeff West High, his freshman year he took 5th at state at 103. His sophmore year he broke his foot, and it pretty much ended his year. Last year, which was his junior year, his arm was completely broke in half in a match early in the year, and ruined his season again. This year he will be wrestling 145. Cass has beat, including Bo Pursel, the first 8 wrestlers in Quagmeir's 125lb. ranking, not to mention many others. Do you think he should be ranked?
I don't think so.

Quagmires Rankings for 2010-2011 Pre-Season Rankings


125
1. Bo Pursel - Lansing
2. Colby Watters - Arkcity
3. Cody Beasley - Haysville
4. Zach Hoehn - Wellsville
5. Bo Newport - Prarie View
6. Tre Humphrey - SMS
7. Dane Norris - Manhattan
8. Troy Bainter - Norton
9. Tim Wrestler - Chanute
10. Aspen Kmiec - Shawnee Heights

130
1. Daniel DeShazer - Wichita Heights
2. Jake Gentzler - Andover Central
3. Mario Corado - Pittsburg
4. Ross Whitmore - SMNW
5. Konnor Kriss - Colby
6. Zac Dremel - Olathe South
7. T.J. Stokes - Gardner
8. Jayde Kolterman - Clay Center
9. Brady Heinecker - Derby
10. Johnathan Peterson - Hutchison

135
6. Alex Thibault – Maize
8. Chase Locke – Maize

Two Maize kids in the same weight

103
1. Javier Vieyra – Salina South
2. Dakota Leech – Goddard
3. Jr. Morgan – Abilene
4. Cullen Hood – Louisburg
5. Jason Perez – Ulysses
6. John Risewick – Norton
7. Colt Skillman – Burlington
8. Tyler Mies – Andale
9. Brandon Ball – Hoisington
10. Luke Henes – STA

112
1. Zac Gentzler – Andover Central
2. Kaleb Bonilla – Goddard
3. Tim Prescott - McPherson
4. Dustin Reed - Colby
5. Chris Sullivan – Hutchison
6. Alex Wolf – Smokey Valley
7. Kevin Keller – Lansing
8. Chandler Gordon - SMNW
9. Quinton Harrison – Hutchison
10. Brad Hake – Concordia

119
1. Austin Hood – Louisburg
2. Dylan Schumacher – TMP
3. Bryce Shoemaker – Baldwin
4. Hunter Haralson – Lawrence
5. Tyler Dryden – Kapaun
6. Caleb Seaton – Bonner Springs
7. Tyler Dickman – Mill Valley
8. Clay Mulligan – Scott City
9. Taelor Mendenhall – Concordia
10. Jace Roy – Prarie View

125
1. Bo Pursel – Lansing
2. Colby Watters – Arkcity
3. Cody Beasley – Haysville
4. Zach Hoehn – Wellsville
5. Tre Humphrey – SMS
6. Dane Norris – Manhattan
7. Tim Wrestler – Chanute
8. Zach Litvak – Gardner
9. Geoffry Wright – BVNW
10. Aspen Kmiec – Shawnee Heights

130
1. Daniel DeShazer – Wichita Heights
2. Jake Gentzler – Andover Central
3. Mario Corado – Pittsburg
4. Ross Whitmore – SMNW
5. Konnor Kriss – Colby
6. Troy Bainter – Norton
7. Zac Dremel – Olathe South
8. T.J. Stokes – Gardner
9. Jayde Kolterman – Clay Center
10. Licoln Lemon – Goddard

135
1. Brandon Charbonneau – Emporia
2. Symon Seaton – Basehor Linwood
3. Kyle Johnson – Columbus
4. Dalton Davis – Lakin
5. Aaron Seybold – Pittsburg
6. Alex Thibault – Halstead
7. Aaron Puckett – Bonner Springs
8. Chase Locke – Maize
9. Jake Umschied – Andover Central
10. Taegan Lambott – Rossville

140
1. Zach Tanembaum – BVN
2. Colton Eck – Andale
3. Bradly Little – Derby
4. Kale Newell – Smith Center
5. B.T. O’hara – Columbus
6. Cole Schreiner – Shawnee Heights
7. Dustin Williams – Gardner
8. Garret Hinkley – Lansing
9. Ky Biddle – Burden Central
10. Courtney Strauss – Abilene

145
1. Taylor Moeder – SJA
2. Spenser Blew – Lansing
3. Trey Houlden – Goddard
4. Nick Collins – Augusta
5. Alex Bontz – Andover Central
6. Levi Eck – Andale
7. Braxton Medina – Garden City
8. Rusty Yarrow – Clay Center
9. Johnathan Blackwell – Bonner Springs
10. Tyler McMichael – Burden Central

152
1. Colten Picking – Abilene
2. Sam Son – Chanute
3. Connor Middleton – Olathe Northwest
4. Dillion Scanlon – Lansing
5. Colton Duhr – Andale
6. Levi Schneider – Ellsworth
7. Ulysses DeShazer – Wichita Heights
8. Gavin Grater – Clay Center
9. Patrick Weaver – Hugoton
10. Dawson Elliot – Goddard

160
1. Ryne Cokeley – SJA
2. Matt Reed – Wichita Heights
3. Chase Sanchez – Emporia
4. Colton Easterberg – Clay Center
5. Jake Hattabaugh – Andale
6. Drake Lovvorn – Holton
7. Spenser Shirk – Norton
8. Jacob Eggers – Dodge City
9. Tyler Terron – Lansing
10. Sterling Terry – Ark City

171
1. Reece Wright-Conklin – Lawrence
2. Jake Delp – Clay Center
3. Tyler Baughman – Lansing
4. Dylan Penka - Kapaun
5. Landon Keiswetter – Norton
6. Jared McComb – Chanute
7. Casey Sedbrook – Hays
8. Devon Keith – Bishop Carrol
9. Domonique Henderson - Wichita Heights
10. Cameron Leupold – Hiawatha



189
1. Tate Omli – El-Saline
2. Zach Anderson – Clay Center
3. Zach Grimes – Osawatomie
4. Dalton Beard – Goddard
5. Donnie Lockhart – Shawnee Heights
6. Taylor Baird – Pratt
7. Justin McPhail – Liberal
8. Colton Castlebury – Douglass
9. Luke Bean – Kapaun
10. Armando Alcantara – Turner

215
1. Gage Knudson – Junction City
2. Leo Beck – Mill Valley
3. Eric Mason – STA
4. Taylor Kettler – Spring Hill
5. Josh Martinez – Marysville
6. Luke Hays – Scott City
7. Jordan Oslidal – Ottawa
8. Shawn Marlett – Derby
9. Kyle Pacheco – Gardner
10. Kasey Crum – Pratt

285
1. Dillion Salmans – Hoxie
2. Jesse Trent – Dogde City
3. Luke Henning – Augusta
4. Derek Holly – Shawnee Heights
5. Tylor Woodruff – Goddard
6. Justin Walberg – STA
7. Caleb Molby – Eudora
8. Travis Anderson – Derby
9. Zach Callahan – Mill Valley
10. Aaron Rafalko - Junction City