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St. James Combo!!!

Posted By: Chief Renegade

St. James Combo!!! - 02/22/11 07:32 PM

I know a lot has been said about Taylor Moeder and Ryne Cokeley from St. James Academy, but I wanted to mention the phenomenal records that these two have accomplished over their career. This weekend these two will likely surpass 330 combined wins. I would guess that it will be quite awhile before we see classmates who accomplish such a milestone.

I for one am proud to call them KANSAS WRESTLERS!

Ryne Cokeley - 166-13

Taylor Moeder - 162-9
Posted By: willie424

Re: St. James Combo!!! - 02/22/11 07:53 PM

Definately one of the best teammate duo's ever. congrats Taylor and Ryne on great careers.
Posted By: Tommyboy

Re: St. James Combo!!! - 02/22/11 09:18 PM

Both great kid's,but best ever? Boaz Beard 4x state champ and Tyler Caldwell 4x state champ from Goddard.
Posted By: Chief Renegade

Re: St. James Combo!!! - 02/22/11 09:33 PM

Originally Posted By: Tommyboy
Both great kid's,but best ever? Boaz Beard 4x state champ and Tyler Caldwell 4x state champ from Goddard.


Absolutely ONE OF the best classmates ever.

Total Career Victories:

Moeder/Cokeley - 328, so far.

Caldwell/Beard - 256
Posted By: Ricky Bobby

Re: St. James Combo!!! - 02/22/11 10:15 PM

I think you could debate for a lot of tandem senior wrestlers in Kansas history:

For St. Francis in 1999:
Gabe Jenkins = 4X State Champion
Kelly Gabel = 3X State Champion, 1X Runner-up, Senior Nationals Runner-up

I'm not sure of the records because I don't have the information on both. I know Gable ended with 141 career wins in the wrestling era prior to the switch to dual and pool tournaments.


For Campus in 2005:
Josh Baldridge = (133-5), 4X State Champion (Beat Cornejo for 1 of his 4 titles), 3rd at Senior Nationals, 2nd and 4th in NJCAA at Labette CC
Joseph Cornejo = (142-7), 2X State Champion, 2X Runner-up, 4th at Senior Nationals, 3rd in NJCAA at Labette CC
Posted By: ksuwrestling2

Re: St. James Combo!!! - 02/22/11 10:35 PM

Yes, but not all of Moeder's and Cokeley's wins came when they were teammates. I have to go with Caldwell/Beard.
Posted By: Carl Hungus

Re: St. James Combo!!! - 02/22/11 11:46 PM

If Moeder would have stayed in colby he might be going for his third team title in a row as well as individual.
Posted By: Carl Hungus

Re: St. James Combo!!! - 02/22/11 11:50 PM

Just wondering who had the most combined state titles individual and team. I know some of the hoxie kids in the early 2000 had quite a few.
Posted By: Chief Renegade

Re: St. James Combo!!! - 02/23/11 12:21 AM

Originally Posted By: Carl Hungus
If Moeder would have stayed in colby he might be going for his third team title in a row as well as individual.


I believe Moeder's move to SJA helped him greatly in gaining national exposure, contributing to his DI scholarship.
Posted By: Ricky Bobby

Re: St. James Combo!!! - 02/23/11 12:47 AM

Originally Posted By: Carl Hungus
Just wondering who had the most combined state titles individual and team. I know some of the hoxie kids in the early 2000 had quite a few.


Colt Rogers of Smith Center might fit that bill. 4X Individual Champion, 3X Team Champion and 1X Runner-up in wrestling, 3X Football Champion and 1X Football Runner-up. He also won a few state track medals.

Clay Madden of Norton also was a 4X Individual Champion, 3X Team Champion and 1X Team Runner-up.

Matt Gilliland of Hoxie was a 4X Individual Champion, 2X Team Champion and 2X Team Runner-up
Posted By: ksuwrestling2

Re: St. James Combo!!! - 02/23/11 12:50 AM

Wow Chief,that may be true but isn't what you said kind of a slap in the face to Colby and coach Simms. I mean didn't Kriss get a D-1 scholarship couple of years ago?
Posted By: HEADUP

Re: St. James Combo!!! - 02/23/11 12:57 AM

romero cotton= 4x wrestling champ & 4x football champ.
Posted By: tbrummer

Re: St. James Combo!!! - 02/23/11 01:23 AM

Matt Treaster of Beloit? I know he won his individual titles in 3-2-1A and 4A and I know the Trojans won titles in each of the classes, just not sure if it was 4 times.
Posted By: Beeson

Re: St. James Combo!!! - 02/23/11 01:29 AM

Justin Ware and Devin Bahm of Ark City. Both were 4x individual and 4x team champions.
Posted By: Ricky Bobby

Re: St. James Combo!!! - 02/23/11 01:33 AM

Roy Oeser, Wichita-Kapuan Mt. Carmel
(5 individual titles)
1974 - 3A - 155 lbs.
1975 - 3A - 155 lbs.
1976 - 3A - 167 lbs.
1976 - Grand State - 167 lbs.
1977 - 3A - 167 lbs.

(4 team titles)
1975
3A Wichita—Kapaun-Mt. Carmel

Grand State Wrestling
1975 Wichita—Kapaun-Mt. Carmel
1976 Wichita—Kapaun-Mt. Carmel

1977
3A Wichita—Kapaun-Mt. Carmel
Posted By: Ricky Bobby

Re: St. James Combo!!! - 02/23/11 01:35 AM

Originally Posted By: tbrummer
Matt Treaster of Beloit? I know he won his individual titles in 3-2-1A and 4A and I know the Trojans won titles in each of the classes, just not sure if it was 4 times.


Yes, he was a 4X individual and team champion for Beloit.

Matt Treaster, Beloit
(4 individual titles)
1981 - 321A - 105 lbs.
1982 - 321A - 119 lbs.
1983 - 321A - 126 lbs.
1984 - 4A - 132 lbs.

(4 team titles)
1981 3-2-1A Beloit
1982 3-2-1A Beloit
1983 3-2-1A Beloit
1984 4A Beloit
Posted By: Ryan Jilka

Re: St. James Combo!!! - 02/23/11 01:51 AM

Beeson,
Don't know how I missed that you had already put down some of the bulldog boys when I made my post. Anyhow, the SJA boys are certainly deserving of kudos. I can't wait to see their college careers play out. Certainly some AA's in the future.

Posted By: momviel

Re: St. James Combo!!! - 02/23/11 10:52 AM

Just say congratulations to Taylor and Ryne, it's not that hard. They have done a great job.
Posted By: HEADUP

Re: St. James Combo!!! - 02/23/11 12:31 PM

momviel.... i don't think anyone is trying to take away from what ryne and taylor have done. they are "one of the best" combos ever. i just think people are naming other "one of the best" also. so to appease you, congrats taylor and ryne, you have accomplished greatness, hope you continue that over the next 4-5 years.
Posted By: Chief Renegade

Re: St. James Combo!!! - 02/23/11 01:32 PM

More than a few on here have highjacked the thread, which is fine... But let's find this out...

Moeder and Cokeley have 328 combined victories (and counting). Have there ever been classmates in Kansas that have surpassed that total?
Posted By: Beeson

Re: St. James Combo!!! - 02/23/11 03:31 PM

Chief, why ask a question you already know the answer to? Yes, these two wrestlers have achieved alot in their High School Careers. They do deserve to be congratulated on such stellar careers. It is debateable if they are the best ever on record alone though. 15 years ago 30 match seasons were pretty common. These days we see alot of kids getting 40-50 matches a season. Coaches are getting more bang for their buck on matches and competition points. In another 10 or 15 years kids will be getting 60-75 matches a year. This record will be passed and the same debate will begin all over again. These two names will be brought up again, and deservedly so. Congratulation Ryne and Taylor on great High School Careers.
Posted By: Chief Renegade

Re: St. James Combo!!! - 02/23/11 04:02 PM

Originally Posted By: Beeson
Chief, why ask a question you already know the answer to? Yes, these two wrestlers have achieved alot in their High School Careers. They do deserve to be congratulated on such stellar careers. It is debateable if they are the best ever on record alone though. 15 years ago 30 match seasons were pretty common. These days we see alot of kids getting 40-50 matches a season. Coaches are getting more bang for their buck on matches and competition points. In another 10 or 15 years kids will be getting 60-75 matches a year. This record will be passed and the same debate will begin all over again. These two names will be brought up again, and deservedly so. Congratulation Ryne and Taylor on great High School Careers.


Strange tone in your response Chad. I started this thread to recognize the milestone of Moeder and Cokeley and nobody EVER said "best ever". I said "one of the best". Other posts came in as if to say that this accomplishment was somehow subsequent to others. It's not a debate! Pure math determines the number of victories by a pair of classmates.

Why the envy?????????? Just applaud and move on, or you look ridiculous.
Posted By: willie424

Re: St. James Combo!!! - 02/23/11 04:05 PM

to the person who said they have not been together all four seasons taylor has been here for each of his state titles, and nothing against colby but taylor has prgressively gotten better and you cant denie he would not have had quite the practice partner at colby that he did at SJA that in my opinion helped propell him to be were he is today. and Ryne and both Taylor have excelled on the national level, Ryne being a Pan-American National Greco Champion, Taylor an Fargo Greco National Champion. And plenty of more accomplishments its pretty hard to debate that they are one of the best.
Posted By: lylegeyer

Re: St. James Combo!!! - 02/23/11 04:15 PM

Originally Posted By: Chief Renegade
Originally Posted By: Beeson
Chief, why ask a question you already know the answer to? Yes, these two wrestlers have achieved alot in their High School Careers. They do deserve to be congratulated on such stellar careers. It is debateable if they are the best ever on record alone though. 15 years ago 30 match seasons were pretty common. These days we see alot of kids getting 40-50 matches a season. Coaches are getting more bang for their buck on matches and competition points. In another 10 or 15 years kids will be getting 60-75 matches a year. This record will be passed and the same debate will begin all over again. These two names will be brought up again, and deservedly so. Congratulation Ryne and Taylor on great High School Careers.


Strange tone in your response Chad. I started this thread to recognize the milestone of Moeder and Cokeley and nobody EVER said "best ever". I said "one of the best". Other posts came in as if to say that this accomplishment was somehow subsequent to others. It's not a debate! Pure math determines the number of victories by a pair of classmates.

Why the envy?????????? Just applaud and move on, or you look ridiculous.


No envy. Great job Moeder and Cokeley, but Beeson is right. Plain and simple they wrestle more matches now. The St. James Combo has more wins Cheif is right, but they also have more losses then some of the other combos mentioned. In 5 years we will be saying the same thing.
Posted By: willie424

Re: St. James Combo!!! - 02/23/11 04:27 PM

They have more losses really? The both of them combined have 22 losses over four years. Show me another combo with that stat. also look at the competition they face i guarantee they have one of the hardest schedules of any Kansas team in history. They faced the best of the best every weekend. Ryne wrestled a Nebraska 3 timer, oklahoma and texas 3 timers so on so on for taylor also.
Posted By: lylegeyer

Re: St. James Combo!!! - 02/23/11 04:47 PM

Originally Posted By: willie424
They have more losses really? The both of them combined have 22 losses over four years. Show me another combo with that stat. also look at the competition they face i guarantee they have one of the hardest schedules of any Kansas team in history. They faced the best of the best every weekend. Ryne wrestled a Nebraska 3 timer, oklahoma and texas 3 timers so on so on for taylor also.


yes really. Combined Beard and Caldwell had only 6 losses almost 4 x's less. I never said anything bad about them. Only point out the number of matches help with number of victories. Im sure there are more with less losses. Percentage wise they do not have the best records.


Posted By: Beeson

Re: St. James Combo!!! - 02/23/11 05:10 PM

There was no Envy in my tone, which I am trying to figure out how to inflict tone into the written word. I gave them a heartfelt congratulations. Just stated some facts before. Pretty sure I said that they would be talked about everytime this topic comes up for years to come. How is that not compimentary?

I agree "we" need to be careful to not look ridiculous. I know how to look ridiculous, and do it on purpose sometimes. I don't think I did this time.
Posted By: ksman01

Re: St. James Combo!!! - 02/23/11 05:31 PM

The Nitcher/Blair duo must be pretty close to that.
Posted By: ksman01

Re: St. James Combo!!! - 02/23/11 05:33 PM

chief, how many matches were won between those two?
Posted By: Chief Renegade

Re: St. James Combo!!! - 02/23/11 05:34 PM

Originally Posted By: ksman01
The Nitcher/Blair duo must be pretty close to that.


I know the number is high but Blair was actually JV his first year.
Posted By: Chief Renegade

Re: St. James Combo!!! - 02/23/11 05:41 PM

Chase Nitcher and Cade Blair's total career record was:

312-18
Posted By: willie424

Re: St. James Combo!!! - 02/23/11 06:33 PM

Okay even though they only had six losses compare the strength of schedule here Ryne and Taylor face some of the toughest competition in the nation. Does Goddard even travel outside of the state?
Posted By: badbo

Re: St. James Combo!!! - 02/23/11 06:45 PM

It's impossible to compare. Match counts change over the years, so does the ability to travel. Goddard did go to the Airport KCI tournament and both kids won. But there are kids from the 70's and 80's that could compare based on what was offered to them. I will say Caldwell/Beard taking a red-shirt year to prepare should lost them a couple votes. Their results are outstanding, but I would hazzard to guess that both Ryne and Taylor would have a few less losses if they took a extra year to train as repeast 8th graders as well.

JMO.
Posted By: lylegeyer

Re: St. James Combo!!! - 02/23/11 06:52 PM

Originally Posted By: willie424
Okay even though they only had six losses compare the strength of schedule here Ryne and Taylor face some of the toughest competition in the nation. Does Goddard even travel outside of the state?


They both traveled out of state to Sr. Nationals and both took 3rd, and I'm sure Goddard didn't have an easy schedule just to pad a pair of 4 x state champions record. Yes St. James has a very tough schedule, noting the 22 losses, both pairs deserve credit.
Posted By: WillyM

Re: St. James Combo!!! - 02/23/11 07:13 PM

And in another topic, a couple of posters are suggesting that we rank and seed the first place regional winners with some criteria for the openimg rounds of the state tournaments. If you seed the regional winners then I would think you would have to seed the 2nd, 3rd and 4th places to make the whole first round. The KSHSAA predetermined seeding scheme removes the subjectivity of who did what and when. No if, and, buts, howevers, and no records.

NOTE: Colorado seeds the regional winners. Nebraska use a predetermined scheme of 1 vs 4 and 2 vs 3 for the opening round. Did not look at other states
Posted By: HEADUP

Re: St. James Combo!!! - 02/23/11 09:47 PM

Originally Posted By: Chief Renegade
More than a few on here have highjacked the thread, which is fine...

sorry i still don't see hi-jacking, you mentioned these two outstanding athletes as "one of the best", i think they should both be proud to be mentioned along with some of these other "one of the best" combos. i really think it is you who should sit back and enjoy the conversation here Chief. we will have this discussion again next year, and those athletes should be proud to be mentioned along side cokeley and moeder! the hall of fame has room for more than just a couple wrestlers. this is just away to remember those who have influenced us all. obviously including cokeley and moeder.
Posted By: badbo

Re: St. James Combo!!! - 02/23/11 11:22 PM

Originally Posted By: Contrarian
And in another topic, a couple of posters are suggesting that we rank and seed the first place regional winners with some criteria for the openimg rounds of the state tournaments. If you seed the regional winners then I would think you would have to seed the 2nd, 3rd and 4th places to make the whole first round. The KSHSAA predetermined seeding scheme removes the subjectivity of who did what and when. No if, and, buts, howevers, and no records.

NOTE: Colorado seeds the regional winners. Nebraska use a predetermined scheme of 1 vs 4 and 2 vs 3 for the opening round. Did not look at other states


Now this is hijacking a thread....Isn't there a thread about this already?
Posted By: Holliday Hays

Re: St. James Combo!!! - 02/24/11 02:35 AM

Originally Posted By: Ricky Bobby
I think you could debate for a lot of tandem senior wrestlers in Kansas history:

For St. Francis in 1999:
Gabe Jenkins = 4X State Champion
Kelly Gabel = 3X State Champion, 1X Runner-up, Senior Nationals Runner-up

I'm not sure of the records because I don't have the information on both. I know Gable ended with 141 career wins in the wrestling era prior to the switch to dual and pool tournaments.


For Campus in 2005:
Josh Baldridge = (133-5), 4X State Champion (Beat Cornejo for 1 of his 4 titles), 3rd at Senior Nationals, 2nd and 4th in NJCAA at Labette CC
Joseph Cornejo = (142-7), 2X State Champion, 2X Runner-up, 4th at Senior Nationals, 3rd in NJCAA at Labette CC


A rare Ricky Bobby mistake. Gabe Jenkins was a 2-time state champion for St. Francis. Another great Sainty combo was Scott Jenkins (3-timer) and Billy Gabel (4-timer)
Posted By: Ricky Bobby

Re: St. James Combo!!! - 02/24/11 03:30 AM

Originally Posted By: Holliday Hays
Originally Posted By: Ricky Bobby
I think you could debate for a lot of tandem senior wrestlers in Kansas history:

For St. Francis in 1999:
Gabe Jenkins = 4X State Champion
Kelly Gabel = 3X State Champion, 1X Runner-up, Senior Nationals Runner-up

I'm not sure of the records because I don't have the information on both. I know Gable ended with 141 career wins in the wrestling era prior to the switch to dual and pool tournaments.


For Campus in 2005:
Josh Baldridge = (133-5), 4X State Champion (Beat Cornejo for 1 of his 4 titles), 3rd at Senior Nationals, 2nd and 4th in NJCAA at Labette CC
Joseph Cornejo = (142-7), 2X State Champion, 2X Runner-up, 4th at Senior Nationals, 3rd in NJCAA at Labette CC


A rare Ricky Bobby mistake. Gabe Jenkins was a 2-time state champion for St. Francis. Another great Sainty combo was Scott Jenkins (3-timer) and Billy Gabel (4-timer)


Yeah I sure did miss the boat on that. I was looking at the state placer sheet on the St. Francis website and I guess I just thought that the combo I was looking at was those two. Too many same brother combos in Sainty. Thanks for the correction though.

St. Francis State Placers
Posted By: Ricky Bobby

Re: St. James Combo!!! - 02/24/11 03:38 AM

After looking at the St. Francis page I just counted at least one state placer for the past 73 years. That is very impressive. I wonder if any schools in Kansas can top that.

Also, until last year St. Francis had at least 2 state placers for 72 consecutive years.

Yep, I'm hijacking this topic.
Posted By: XGHSWC

Re: St. James Combo!!! - 02/24/11 03:46 AM

No, Goddard does not travel out of state now, but they have and did then.
And no, Goddard did not have an easy schedule and they don't now. In fact, I would say they have one of the toughest schedules in the state if not the toughest, that is aside from St. James. smile
This year my son wrestled a #1 from Missouri, a #3 from Iowa and Oklahoma and a #5 from Oklahoma.
I could also throw in that Beard was hurt or would have had a lot more wins.
Not saying Moeder and Cokeley are not top, not my decision.
Yes, both pairs deserve credit as do the other pairs mentioned.
Posted By: willie424

Re: St. James Combo!!! - 02/24/11 03:56 AM

The two pairs are both very good especially seeing how Caldwell is doing at OU to my knowledge he is now ranked 2nd correct me if im wrong, how is Beard doing in college or is he wrestling in college?
Posted By: Ricky Bobby

Re: St. James Combo!!! - 02/24/11 04:05 AM

Originally Posted By: willie424
The two pairs are both very good especially seeing how Caldwell is doing at OU to my knowledge he is now ranked 2nd correct me if im wrong, how is Beard doing in college or is he wrestling in college?


Emporia State Baseball

He transferred from Iowa State to play baseball at Emporia State.
Posted By: cps51

Re: St. James Combo!!! - 02/24/11 09:14 PM

Originally Posted By: Beeson
Justin Ware and Devin Bahm of Ark City. Both were 4x individual and 4x team champions.


But that is because 5A is easy according to some. Right Lucas? lol

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