Kansas Wrestling

2011-12 All-Class Rankings!

Posted By: Chief Renegade

2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 09/30/11 01:10 PM

PRE-SEASON RANKINGS!

Wrestlers are ranked by their ANTICIPATED weights. As with any ranking system they are just my opinion, arrived at through MANY hours of research.

Many factors are considered (Not always in this order):

1. State bracket performance.
2. Performance at national folkstyle tournaments.
3. National FS/GR success.
4. Information from Coaches and Parents.
5. Competition that the wrestler has faced.


IMPORTANT:

The input must include criteria! Asking, "Why is this guy above that guy" or saying, "I can't believe you have that guy ranked" is not criteria. Just state your evidence and if found substantive, I will change it. Also remember that we are still many weeks away from the first whistle so a lot can change and surely will.

Instead of changing the rankings AS new information comes in, I plan to update them each Friday until the season starts.

TEAM RANKINGS:

1. Andale - 4A
2. Lawrence - 6A
3. Andover Central - 5A
4. Arkansas City - 5A
5. St. Thomas Aquinas - 5A
6. Garden City - 6A
7. Wichita Heights - 6A
8. Pittsburg - 4A
9. Bonner Springs - 4A
10. Derby - 6A


106:
1. Parker Howell - 10 - KMC - 5A
2. Trey Francka - 11 - CCO - 321A
3. Jase Stone - 11 - MH - 6A
4. Dakota Leach - 11 - GD - 5A
5. Bryce Morgan - 11 - ELD - 4A
6. Tevin Briscoe - 9 - GC - 6A
7. Adam Cole - 9 - CH - 4A
8. Sean DeShazer - 9 - WH - 6A
9. Josh Goepfert - 11 - MRV - 321A
10. Dylan Eck - 9 - AN - 4A

113:
1. Zac Gentzler - 11 - AC - 5A
2. Jason Perez - 12 - ULY - 4A
3. Anthony Calderon - 12 - GC - 6A
4. Tyler Mies - 10 - AN - 4A
5. Kevin Perez - 11 - JC - 6A
6. Hunter Price - 11 - HOL - 4A
7. Jr. Morgan - 11 - AB - 4A
8. Alex Garcia - 12 - DC - 6A
9. John Risewick - 11 - NOR - 321A
10. Reese Cokeley - 10 - SJA - 4A

120:
1. Javier Vieyra - 12 - SS - 5A
2. Isaac Dulgarian - 9 - STA - 5A
3. Michael Olsen - 10 - LS - 5A
4. Dustin Reed - 11 - CLB - 4A
5. Chris Burley - 11 - GB - 5A
6. Alex Wolf - 12 - SV - 4A
7. Quinton Harrison - 11 - NEW - 5A
8. Corey Spader - 11 - SPH - 4A
9. Clayton Himple - 10 - TG - 4A
10. Ty Kolterman - 12 - CC - 4A

126:
1. Austin Hood - 12 - LOU - 4A
2. Dylan Schumacher - 12 - TMP - 321A
3. Bryce Shoemaker - 11 - BAL - 4A
4. Tim Prescott - 12 - MCP - 4A
5. Lukas Maki - 11 - KMC - 5A
6. Hunter Haralson - 11 - LAW - 6A
7. Jacob Parise - 12 - BVW - 6A
8. Tyler Dickman - 10 - MV - 5A
9. Taelor Mendenhall - 12 - CON - 4A
10. Aaron Engels - 12 - AN - 4A

132:
1. Bo Pursel - 12 - LS - 5A
2. TJ Stokes - 12 - GE - 6A
3. Brogan Humphrey - 10 - FRE - 321A
4. Cody Eastman - 11 - ARK - 5A
5. Clay Mulligan - 12 - SC - 321A
6. Andrew Morgan - 12 - BAL - 4A
7. Riley Soward - 12 - HAL - 321A
8. Garrett McEachern - 11 - NEW - 5A
9. Jared Fiscus - 11 - CH - 4A
10. Gage Younger - 11 - ELL - 321A

138:
1. Konnor Kriss - 12 - CLB - 4A
2. Miles Johns - 12 - NEW - 5A
3. Brandon Charbonneau - 12 - EMP - 5A
4. Colby Watters - 12 - ARK - 5A
5. Zach Dremel - 12 - OS - 6A
6. Tommy Williams - 12 - STA - 5A
7. Devon Dozier - 11 - OZ - 4A
8. Luke Lee - 12 - AC - 5A
9. Reis Humphrey - 11 - SMS - 6A
10. Brady Heincker - 12 - DB - 6A

145:
1. Tagen Lambotte - 10 - ROS - 321A
2. Aaron Seybold - 12 - PT - 4A
3. Jonathan Blackwell - 11 - BS - 4A
4. Dustin Williams - 10 - GE - 6A
5. Ky Biddle - 12 - CB - 321A
6. Calvin Ochs - 11 - HOX - 321A
7. Chase Locke - 12 - MZ - 6A
8. Lincoln Lemon - 12 - GD - 5A
9. Alex Thibault - 11 - HAL - 321A
10. Patrick Weaver - 11 - HUG - 4A

152:
1. Connor Middleton - 12 - ONW - 6A
2. Alex Bontz - 12 - AC - 5A
3. Aaron Puckett - 11 - BS - 4A
4. Tyler McMichael - 12 - ARK - 5A
5. Andrew Denning - 11 - LAW - 6A
6. Dalton Snyder - 12 - HOX - 321A
7. Trevor Cox - 12 - MZ - 6A
8. Rusty Yarrow - 12 - CC - 4A
9. Kyle Armstrong - 11 - AN - 4A
10. Jared Johnson - 11 - PR - 321A

160:
1. Sam Son - 12 - CH - 4A
2. Colton Duhr - 12 - AN - 4A
3. Gavin Grater - 10 - CC - 4A
4. Mark Hobson - 12 - BS - 4A
5. Jacob Eggers - 12 - DC - 6A
6. Rory Haug - 12 - ON - 6A
7. Bryant Guillen - 11 - SEA - 5A
8. Trey Dice - 12 - ARK - 5A
9. Jon Heiman - 12 - GC - 6A
10. Tyler Willis - 12 - SH - 5A

170:
1. Matt Reed - 12 - WH - 6A
2. Blaine Hill - 12 - SME - 6A
3. Levi Eck - 11 - AN - 4A
4. Preston Wiegel - 10 - HAY - 5A
5. Kane Kelly - 12 - AB - 4A
6. Brent Koehn - 12 - PT - 4A
7. Jesse LeMay - 12 - WEL - 321A
8. Brian Wood - 12 - MH - 6A
9. Tyler Henness - 12 - PAO - 4A
10t. Tanner O'Donnell - 12 - SS - 5A
10t. Tanner Gardner - 12 - CLW - 4A

182:
1. Reece Wright-Conklin - 12 - LAW - 6A
2. Brock Long - 12 - SES - 321A
3. Spencer Wilson - 11 - LFS - 6A
4. Ulyesses DeShazer - 12 - WH - 6A
5. Tyler Higgins - 12 - IKE - 5A
6. Hunter Weddington - 12 - AND - 5A
7. Nick Meck - 11 - SH - 5A
8. Riley Denny - 11 - CV - 321A
9. Hugh McConnell - 12 - NEW - 5A
10. Trey Campbell - 12 - MH - 6A

195:
1. Shawn Marlatt - 12 - DB - 6A
2. Colt Castlebury - 12 - DOU - 321A
3. Darien Willis - 12 - SUM - 4A
4. Tyler Lowe - 12 - EUR - 321A
5. Ty Suggs - 12 - MH - 6A
6. Litton VanDerWerff - 12 - LS - 5A
7. Dillon Archer - 11 - NEW - 5A
8. Brady Munsch - 12 - SS - 5A
9. Nate Stanley - 11 - SEA - 5A
10. Caleb Frankin - 10 - WN - 6A

220:
1. Luke Bean - 12 - KMC - 5A
2. Nathan Butler - 11 - LV - 6A
3. Colton Lissolo - 12 - HUG - 4A
4. Cash Drylie - 12 - HAY - 5A
5. Jacob English - 12 - BEL - 321A
6. Edward Fitzgerald - 12 - SFT - 4A
7. Jordan Brown - 12 - CON - 4A
8. Tyler Keller - 12 - WNW - 6A
9. Myron Tipton - 12 - OE - 6A
10. Tanner Taylor - 12 - BUR - 321A

285:
1. Will Geary - 11 - TOP - 6A
2. Eric Mason - 12 - STA - 5A
3. Tylor Woodruff - 12 - GD - 5A
4. Luke Hayes - 12 - SC - 321A
5. Clay Wilcox - 11 - CHP - 321A
6. Zach Callahan - 12 - MV - 5A
7. Taylor Krier - 12 - MCP - 4A
8. Broc Bennett - 12 - PT - 5A
9. Hayden Chandler - 12 - DS - 4A
10. Joe Pomatto - 11 - PAO - 4A

Posted By: PurpleDad

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 09/30/11 01:23 PM

Eric,

Thanks for putting out your rankings....I think they help create the most interesting posting and observations on this forum.

Posted By: badbo

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 09/30/11 02:30 PM

What about the upper 3 weights? Are they still coming?
Posted By: master blaster

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 09/30/11 02:42 PM

WOW Andale #1, didn't realize they had as much coming back as they do! The other thing that caught my eye would be 5A 120, looks like a tough wieght! All the ranked wrestlers at that wieght are eihter 4A or 5A.
Posted By: shudog

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 09/30/11 03:04 PM

Preston Weigel, Hays?
Posted By: Chief Renegade

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 09/30/11 03:20 PM

Originally Posted By: shudog
Preston Weigel, Hays?


I miss-copied that one. Got him now. Thanks!
Posted By: chucky

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 09/30/11 03:26 PM

What happened to that Mcphail kid from liberal?
Posted By: Chief Renegade

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 09/30/11 03:26 PM

Originally Posted By: chucky
What happened to that Mcphail kid from liberal?


ACL injury from football. He would have been #1. Really hated to hear that!
Posted By: Chief Renegade

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 09/30/11 04:14 PM

Send me any helpful info for next weeks update on Friday. I have already received weight updates and good criteria to consider.

Thanks!

Chief
cell - 913-484-3624
Posted By: kshawk

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 09/30/11 04:19 PM

Riley Denny, 182 from Caney, moved to Iowa.
Posted By: BigPin22

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 09/30/11 07:29 PM

Is Dulgarian STA or SJA?
Posted By: badbo

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 09/30/11 07:39 PM

STA.
Posted By: BigEd

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 09/30/11 07:50 PM

138
(8)Luke Lee of AC vs. (10)Brady Heincker of DB

Heincker won 18-3 tech fall last year at the rosehill tournament right before regionals.
Posted By: Peterson

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 09/30/11 08:54 PM

What weight is Andrew Milsap going? I figured I would see his name on there. Is Jonathon Peterson not wrestling or something? Does anyone know what weight Taylor Watkins is going? He should be a good freshman. Do you think Fiscus is going to be 32!? I saw him wrestle his freshman year at 12 and then jump to 30. Tough kid. Broc Bennnett only 8th at 285? I figured he would be atleast top 5. Jeremiah Jones? I think he should be atleast 10 at 113. State placer in 2010. Didn't qualify last year, which I think is because he just came off a broken arm. No excuses though because Charbonneau and Koehn were both hurt and still placed. Thank you for the rankings. This is what makes things interesting. I like seeing where the kids start off and end by the season. Thanks for the effort and time.
Posted By: John Johnson

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 10/01/11 12:42 AM

I expected to see Mark Smith on the list, probably will be sooner or later.
Posted By: #1fan

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 10/01/11 03:23 AM

I love preseason rankings it gives you something to do when you get bored but I am curious about 120 I know Reed beat Vieyra last year and what about Olsen haven't heard much about him
Posted By: hometown

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 10/01/11 09:26 AM

At 170: Tyler Henness and Tanner Gardner faced each other only 1 time last year. The match was at state and Tanner won by fall.
Posted By: Tommyboy

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 10/01/11 01:44 PM

Michael Olsen wrested at Park Hill, Missouri last season. He took second at 4a state. I am not saying he should be ranked ahead of Dustin.

Dan Gentzler
Posted By: Chief Renegade

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 10/01/11 03:05 PM

Originally Posted By: hometown
At 170: Tyler Henness and Tanner Gardner faced each other only 1 time last year. The match was at state and Tanner won by fall.


That was one crazy bracket. Delancey beats Bradley, Gardner beats Henness, Bradley beats Gardner, Henness majors Delancey 20-8. Then Baird steamrolls the entire bracket. Next Friday I will be changing 171. Henness is reported to be going 182. Thanks for the post!
Posted By: Chief Renegade

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 10/01/11 03:06 PM

Originally Posted By: Tommyboy
Michael Olsen wrested at Park Hill, Missouri last season. He took second at 4a state. I am not saying he should be ranked ahead of Dustin.

Dan Gentzler


In my opinion, Olsen is the real deal. That weight is up for grabs in 5A.
Posted By: Chief Renegade

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 10/01/11 03:24 PM

Originally Posted By: #1fan
I love preseason rankings it gives you something to do when you get bored but I am curious about 120 I know Reed beat Vieyra last year and what about Olsen haven't heard much about him


Javier moved up from 103 to wrestle Reed at 112 in that match. All said, Those top 5 at 120 are all capable of finishing AC #1.
Posted By: Chief Renegade

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 10/01/11 03:33 PM

Originally Posted By: Peterson
What weight is Andrew Milsap going? I figured I would see his name on there. Is Jonathon Peterson not wrestling or something? Does anyone know what weight Taylor Watkins is going? He should be a good freshman. Do you think Fiscus is going to be 32!? I saw him wrestle his freshman year at 12 and then jump to 30. Tough kid. Broc Bennnett only 8th at 285? I figured he would be atleast top 5. Jeremiah Jones? I think he should be atleast 10 at 113. State placer in 2010. Didn't qualify last year, which I think is because he just came off a broken arm. No excuses though because Charbonneau and Koehn were both hurt and still placed. Thank you for the rankings. This is what makes things interesting. I like seeing where the kids start off and end by the season. Thanks for the effort and time.


Millsap is reported to go 138 and Peterson 126. Both are very close to being ranked. All the 126's are state placers in 2011 except Dickman. Peterson placed in 2010. I have not heard what weight Watkins is going. Fiscus is reported at 132. Bennett will likely move up. He has that monsterous blast double. I like Jones but don't believe he's better that Reese Cokeley. That Pittsburg team has one of the best coaches our state has to offer and should make a run in 4A!
Posted By: wrestlingsister

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 10/01/11 04:50 PM

how do you think armond mccray, from heights, will do at 113?
Posted By: #1fan

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 10/01/11 05:41 PM

Originally Posted By: Chief Renegade
Originally Posted By: #1fan
I love preseason rankings it gives you something to do when you get bored but I am curious about 120 I know Reed beat Vieyra last year and what about Olsen haven't heard much about him


Javier moved up from 103 to wrestle Reed at 112 in that match. All said, Those top 5 at 120 are all capable of finishing AC #1.


That is true but if Reed is at 120 that's going to be a big jump for Javier who wrestled 105 this summer and Reed has beat him the last two times they met up in high school but i guess we will just see they could wrestle 3 times this year
Posted By: Peterson

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 10/01/11 07:03 PM

Hey Chief, how do you feel about Kevin Arnold of Hays? I think he placed 3rd in 5A at 112 last year. Good kid, tough leg rider, and long and lanky.
Posted By: Paratroop

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 10/01/11 07:58 PM

Originally Posted By: Chief Renegade
Originally Posted By: Tommyboy
Michael Olsen wrested at Park Hill, Missouri last season. He took second at 4a state. I am not saying he should be ranked ahead of Dustin.

Dan Gentzler


In my opinion, Olsen is the real deal. That weight is up for grabs in 5A.


If I remember right, Olson won Missouri kids state his 1st year of wrestling. I've watched him through the years and he's always been impressive. Will be fun to watch him this year.
Posted By: Chief Renegade

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 10/01/11 08:50 PM

Originally Posted By: Peterson
Hey Chief, how do you feel about Kevin Arnold of Hays? I think he placed 3rd in 5A at 112 last year. Good kid, tough leg rider, and long and lanky.


He is a tough kid. 120 is one of the deepest weights though. Brad Hake and Cullen Hood are the next two at 120.
Posted By: Tiger hopeful

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 10/01/11 09:57 PM

quinton harrison 120 also had a victory over javier vieyra last year. javier is ranked number one but has been beaten by the number 4 and the number 7.??????
Posted By: Chief Renegade

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 10/02/11 12:04 AM

Originally Posted By: Tiger hopeful
quinton harrison 120 also had a victory over javier vieyra last year. javier is ranked number one but has been beaten by the number 4 and the number 7.??????


That match was up a weight also.
Posted By: Tiger hopeful

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 10/02/11 02:08 AM

yes, but like stated before this is a much bigger jump for javier and 106 is alot different than any other weights out there. i would put either of them before javier in the rankings.
Posted By: Tommyboy

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 10/02/11 06:56 PM

How is 106 alot different than any other weight?
Posted By: bug

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 10/02/11 07:30 PM

Lindlair WNW?
Posted By: Haralson44

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 10/03/11 12:33 AM

Let them wrestle and it will all work out save this list and at the end of the year we will all see but lotts of fun to look at thanks Chief
Posted By: S Biddle

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 10/03/11 01:19 AM

I dont see Ky Biddle at 145lbs.
Posted By: Ed Wilson

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 10/03/11 10:10 AM

Originally Posted By: S Biddle
I dont see Ky Biddle at 145lbs.



145:
1. Tagen Lambotte - 10 - ROS - 321A
2. Aaron Seybold - 12 - PT - 4A
3. Jonathan Blackwell - 11 - BS - 4A
4. Dustin Williams - 10 - GE - 6A
5. Ky Biddle - 12 - CB - 321A
6. Calvin Ochs - 11 - HOX - 321A
7. Chase Locke - 12 - MZ - 6A
8. Lincoln Lemon - 12 - GD - 5A
9. Alex Thibault - 11 - HAL - 321A
10. Patrick Weaver - 11 - HUG - 4A

#5?
Posted By: firehawk88

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 10/03/11 01:01 PM

I don't know if he meant that he didn't see him or that he might not make it down to 145? Could have meant either.
Posted By: Chief Renegade

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 10/03/11 01:06 PM

He meant the weight. On Friday, I will post the update based on weight changes.
Posted By: Chief Renegade

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 10/03/11 05:03 PM

Originally Posted By: wrestlingsister
how do you think armond mccray, from heights, will do at 113?


He has a real shot of placing in 6A. Never underestimate a Heights wrestler!
Posted By: Bender

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 10/03/11 05:05 PM

I see Rory Haug over Jacob Eggers. Rory placed 2nd at 160 at Garden City this past year, a weight Spencer Wilson did not place at. But Spencer did pin Eggers in the semifinals at 6a 160.
Posted By: Chief Renegade

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 10/03/11 06:02 PM

As you know, it is hard to use Wilson in a common opponent comparison. Eggers and Haug are very close.
Posted By: Bender

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 10/03/11 09:44 PM

I understand you saying they are close, but the way i see it Rory has criteria over Eggers. Rory may have not had the state performance he should have had, but his aggressive, constant motion style was and still will be difficult for any competitors at 160. The only other common opponent that i know of his blake hill. Rory had three wins over Hill in which he controlled the entire match, while Eggers has only one victory over Hill.
Posted By: BrandonPigorsch

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 10/03/11 10:52 PM

He was in a tough weight at the state tournament. To get a medal was great. The top 4 kids were studs.
Posted By: Cokeley

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 10/03/11 11:00 PM

Originally Posted By: Tommyboy
How is 106 alot different than any other weight?


Well although it is three pounds heavier than 103 I have two observations:

1. Teams will be open at this weight more than any other weight class.
2. It will be occupied mostly by freshmen.
Posted By: Bender

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 10/03/11 11:01 PM

No Coach Pigorsch the top 5 kids were studs.
Posted By: back in the day

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 10/04/11 12:38 AM

98- 103- 106 a lot of freshman have and will start out at this weight class.

The open weight class for the year will be either 220 or 285.

Unless we can convince the football gods (fb coaches) that wrestling actually helps with football.
Posted By: back in the day

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 10/04/11 02:26 PM

Toughest 3 weights by class representation

120:00:00 5A
1. Javier Vieyra - 12 - SS - 5A
2. Isaac Dulgarian - 9 - STA - 5A
3. Michael Olsen - 10 - LS - 5A
5. Chris Burley - 11 - GB - 5A
7. Quinton Harrison - 11 - NEW - 5A


138:00:00 5A

2. Miles Johns - 12 - NEW - 5A
3. Brandon Charbonneau - 12 - EMP - 5A
4. Colby Watters - 12 - ARK - 5A
6. Tommy Williams - 12 - STA - 5A
8. Luke Lee - 12 - AC - 5A


160:00:00 4A
1. Sam Son - 12 - CH - 4A
2. Colton Duhr - 12 - AN - 4A
3. Gavin Grater - 10 - CC - 4A
4. Mark Hobson - 12 - BS - 4A

looks like 4A is the most represented in the first All Class rankings
Posted By: Chief Renegade

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 10/04/11 03:39 PM

6A - 34
5A - 40
4A - 44
321A - 22
Posted By: wrestle nuts

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 10/04/11 04:06 PM

WHEN ARE THE RANKINGS COMING OUT FOR EACH CLASS
Posted By: Like A Boss

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 10/04/11 04:19 PM

Actually didn't Alex Stockton common over ty suggs twice last year?
Posted By: Chief Renegade

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 10/04/11 05:18 PM

Originally Posted By: wrestle nuts
WHEN ARE THE RANKINGS COMING OUT FOR EACH CLASS


The scheduled date is one week after the KWCA meeting. Friday, November 4th.
Posted By: Chief Renegade

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 10/04/11 05:27 PM

Originally Posted By: Like A Boss
Actually didn't Alex Stockton common over ty suggs twice last year?


195 will change a bit on the upcoming Friady update.
Posted By: ath618

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 10/04/11 06:38 PM

Where is Zak Hensley hiding at on the rankings. I see Dulgarian ranked as #2 all class but not Hensley anywhere in the top 10. Two of the best matches I watched last year were these 2 battling it out. Dist 1 finals match 1-0 Dulgarian and state finals was 3-0 Dulgarian.
Posted By: Chief Renegade

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 10/04/11 06:40 PM

Originally Posted By: ath618
Where is Zak Hensley hiding at on the rankings. I see Dulgarian ranked as #2 all class but not Hensley anywhere in the top 10. Two of the best matches I watched last year were these 2 battling it out. Dist 1 finals match 1-0 Dulgarian and state finals was 3-0 Dulgarian.


I'm surprised nobody has brought that up yet. He will be in the new update on Friday.
Posted By: effwhyeye

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 10/04/11 07:14 PM

What about Taylor Watkins. Talk about good matches, he beat Dulgarian at East Kansas Open last season.
Posted By: Quagmire

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 10/04/11 08:55 PM

I'm going to take a guess and say Watkins in either at 132 or 138 which are both pretty loaded. However I look forward to seeing this class make some noise this year! IMO one of the best group of freshmen Kansas has had in awhile.
Posted By: AE-7

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 10/05/11 01:57 AM

after looking at the rankings at 145 I saw 0 freshmen rankings, just wondering who are the tough freshmen around that weight?
Posted By: Bender

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 10/05/11 04:45 AM

there are no freshman ranked in any weight except 106 and 120
Posted By: Chief Renegade

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 10/05/11 11:19 AM

Originally Posted By: AE-7
after looking at the rankings at 145 I saw 0 freshmen rankings, just wondering who are the tough freshmen around that weight?


145 - Matt Pratt - SJA
145 - Carter Hall - SH
152 - Ben Ewing - STA
152 - Alex Son - CH
Posted By: BigPin22

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 10/05/11 12:33 PM

Originally Posted By: Chief Renegade
Originally Posted By: ath618
Where is Zak Hensley hiding at on the rankings. I see Dulgarian ranked as #2 all class but not Hensley anywhere in the top 10. Two of the best matches I watched last year were these 2 battling it out. Dist 1 finals match 1-0 Dulgarian and state finals was 3-0 Dulgarian.


I'm surprised nobody has brought that up yet. He will be in the new update on Friday.


Nobody wants to create the hailstorm that will follow! He has earned his way on the list.
Posted By: back in the day

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 10/05/11 02:24 PM

What about Luke Hennes - STA is he 113 this year? solid year last year.
Not sure how he did against cokeley head to head.
Posted By: Bender

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 10/05/11 02:32 PM

Cokeley beat Henes 5-2 at the JOCO classic. I believe that was their only matchup
Posted By: Chief Renegade

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 10/05/11 03:40 PM

Originally Posted By: back in the day
What about Luke Hennes - STA is he 113 this year? solid year last year.
Not sure how he did against cokeley head to head.


He is being reported as a possible 106 now. He will likely be included in the Friday update.
Posted By: ReDPloyd

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 10/05/11 08:59 PM

Luke and Reese are both exceptionally talented wrestlers. They should have very good seasons and will be competing for hardware at the end of the year, and the next, and the one after that.
Posted By: ChadLindsley

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 10/06/11 12:21 AM

Originally Posted By: Like A Boss
Actually didn't Alex Stockton common over ty suggs twice last year?



I just looked up Ty's stats from last year as I am the one that does the stats for Manhattan and I do not show Ty wrestling anyone named Alex Stockton last year.

Chad Lindsley
Manhattan High School
Posted By: Cokeley

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 10/06/11 02:48 AM

Originally Posted By: Bender
there are no freshman ranked in any weight except 106 and 120


Thats the way it is supposed to be. How many FR start in FB, Hoops, or BB?
Posted By: Chief Renegade

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 10/06/11 10:39 AM

Originally Posted By: abihu0704
Originally Posted By: Like A Boss
Actually didn't Alex Stockton common over ty suggs twice last year?



I just looked up Ty's stats from last year as I am the one that does the stats for Manhattan and I do not show Ty wrestling anyone named Alex Stockton last year.

Chad Lindsley
Manhattan High School


Ty Suggs placed 2nd at Newton, where Stockton did not place. I believe that was their only opportunity to wrestle.
Posted By: XGHSWC

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 10/06/11 11:26 AM

Well, the list is great obviously, I love it. Probably about as close to 100% accurate as one could get. Thanks Chief.
Just a few thoughts that I have though. Jake Gehring must be slated at 138 I take it because he beat one of the 132 all-classers at high school state. Austin Hughey has to be ranked at either 138 or 145. He won a kids state bracket last spring that included four of the all-classers and he lost at high school state to seniors Courtney Strauss 4-2 and Troy Clark 3-1 to place fifth. Chase Locke should be ranked higher by my estimation. In fact, when he is at full strength my money is on him against anyone at his weight but I guess that will just have to work itself out. Hopefully he will stay healthy and he can prove me right.
But again the list is great, interesting and entertaining. Thanks again Chief for the time and effort.
Posted By: Chief Renegade

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 10/06/11 11:39 AM

Jake Gehring is reported at 145. Good call on Hughey.
Posted By: Bender

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 10/06/11 02:32 PM

Originally Posted By: Cokeley
Originally Posted By: Bender
there are no freshman ranked in any weight except 106 and 120


Thats the way it is supposed to be. How many FR start in FB, Hoops, or BB?


No i was replying to the question some posed about no freshman being ranked at 145..
Posted By: back in the day

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 10/06/11 03:20 PM

how many freshman have made an impact above 145?
Posted By: badbo

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 10/06/11 03:22 PM

they have to be standouts...Reece Conklin and Matt Reed were about that weight as FR. Both complete freaks!!
Posted By: BrandonPigorsch

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 10/06/11 03:54 PM

Gavin Grater CC 4th 4A and Preston Wiegel Hays 2nd 5A last year at 145.
Posted By: Like A Boss

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 10/06/11 03:54 PM

Originally Posted By: Chief Renegade
Originally Posted By: abihu0704
Originally Posted By: Like A Boss
Actually didn't Alex Stockton common over ty suggs twice last year?



I just looked up Ty's stats from last year as I am the one that does the stats for Manhattan and I do not show Ty wrestling anyone named Alex Stockton last year.

Chad Lindsley
Manhattan High School


Ty Suggs placed 2nd at Newton, where Stockton did not place. I believe that was their only opportunity to wrestle.


Didn't Stockton also beat Hunter Jameson at Newton?
Posted By: Kakemono

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 10/06/11 05:12 PM

Boss, don't know whether this helps any:

48th Annual Newton Tournament Of Champions
January 14 & 15, 2011
Place Winners
Weight: 189
1st: Zach Anderson, Clay Center High School 12 21- 0
2nd: Ty Suggs, Manhattan High School 11 19- 9
3rd: George Smollock, Colby High School 12 16- 7
4th: Nehemiah Scott, Maize South High School 12 15- 3
5th: Hugh McConnell, Newton High School 11 13- 4
6th: Aaron DeLeon, Garden City High School 12 25- 5
7th: Blase Walser, Tulsa Union High School 11 9- 3
8th: Alex Stockton, Gardner Edgerton High School 11 14- 7

My guess from looking at those results is that they may well have had a couple of commons at Newton, but Suggs probably came out on top. I didn't find the actual brackets.
Posted By: back in the day

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 10/06/11 05:20 PM

Stockton Newton Tourney
Beat Forrest Jenkins CARROLL Fall
lost to Hugh McConnell NEWTON by fall in second round
Beat Ben Seybert LAWRENCE 4-3
Beat Hunter Jameson HEIGHTS 3-1
Lost to George Smollock COLBY UTB
Lost to Hugh McConnell NEWTON 4-3
Posted By: Coach Bode

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 10/06/11 05:33 PM

Originally Posted By: back in the day
how many freshman have made an impact above 145?


Nathan Butler 5th at 189lbs as a freshman.
Posted By: PurpleDad

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 10/06/11 05:44 PM

Legendary Kansas big man Kyle Caylor, 2nd 189 as Frosh, then 3 Chamopinships at 215. Not to mention Fargo Champ.

Posted By: REVOLUTION

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 10/06/11 07:50 PM

Clay Wilcox 5th @ 285 as FR.
Posted By: BigEd

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 10/06/11 07:53 PM

138:
1. Konnor Kriss - 12 - CLB - 4A
2. Miles Johns - 12 - NEW - 5A
3. Brandon Charbonneau - 12 - EMP - 5A
4. Colby Watters - 12 - ARK - 5A
5. Zach Dremel - 12 - OS - 6A
6. Tommy Williams - 12 - STA - 5A
7. Devon Dozier - 11 - OZ - 4A
8. Luke Lee - 12 - AC - 5A
9. Reis Humphrey - 11 - SMS - 6A
10. Brady Heincker - 12 - DB - 6A

Hughey is not Ranked for some reasons.. #10 Brady Heincker won by fall over Hughey and at the Rosehill Tournament Hughey's place was 5th, while Heinckers was 2nd. However #8 Luke Lee did not place in this bracket and Hughey did.
Posted By: LancerLou

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 10/06/11 08:12 PM

Originally Posted By: PurpleDad
Legendary Kansas big man Kyle Caylor, 2nd 189 as Frosh, then 3 Chamopinships at 215. Not to mention Fargo Champ.



Speaking of Kyle Caylor- where is he? I saw him on the SDSU Roster last year, but I am not sure he wrestled any matches. He is not listed on this year's roster. I hope he is not injured. Did he transfer?
Posted By: wrestlingsister

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 10/06/11 08:17 PM

he's doing great things in kansas .
Posted By: Chief Renegade

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 10/07/11 11:17 AM

Originally Posted By: BigEd
138:
1. Konnor Kriss - 12 - CLB - 4A
2. Miles Johns - 12 - NEW - 5A
3. Brandon Charbonneau - 12 - EMP - 5A
4. Colby Watters - 12 - ARK - 5A
5. Zach Dremel - 12 - OS - 6A
6. Tommy Williams - 12 - STA - 5A
7. Devon Dozier - 11 - OZ - 4A
8. Luke Lee - 12 - AC - 5A
9. Reis Humphrey - 11 - SMS - 6A
10. Brady Heincker - 12 - DB - 6A

Hughey is not Ranked for some reasons.. #10 Brady Heincker won by fall over Hughey and at the Rosehill Tournament Hughey's place was 5th, while Heinckers was 2nd. However #8 Luke Lee did not place in this bracket and Hughey did.


Hughey got 4th at that tourney. The next month he won a bracket with Watters, Lemon and Ochs in it.
Posted By: Tommyboy

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 10/07/11 11:30 AM

Watters (Ark City)will be at 125.
Posted By: Chief Renegade

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 10/07/11 12:14 PM

PRE-SEASON RANKING! - Update #1.


TEAM RANKINGS:

1. Andale - 4A
2. Lawrence - 6A
3. Andover Central - 5A
4. Arkansas City - 5A
5. St. Thomas Aquinas - 5A
6. Garden City - 6A
7. Wichita Heights - 6A
8. Pittsburg - 4A
9. Bonner Springs - 4A
10. Derby - 6A


106:
1. Parker Howell - 10 - KMC - 5A
2. Trey Francka - 11 - CCO - 321A
3. Jase Stone - 11 - MH - 6A
4. Dakota Leach - 11 - GD - 5A
5. Luke Henes - 10 - STA - 5A
6. Bryce Morgan - 11 - ELD - 4A
7. Tevin Briscoe - 9 - GC - 6A
8. Adam Cole - 9 - CH - 4A
9. Sean DeShazer - 9 - WH - 6A
10. Josh Goepfert - 11 - MRV - 321A

113:
1. Zac Gentzler - 11 - AC - 5A
2. Jason Perez - 12 - ULY - 4A
3. Anthony Calderon - 12 - GC - 6A
4. Tyler Mies - 10 - AN - 4A
5. Kevin Perez - 11 - JC - 6A
6. Hunter Price - 11 - HOL - 4A
7. Jr. Morgan - 11 - AB - 4A
8. Alex Garcia - 12 - DC - 6A
9. John Risewick - 11 - NOR - 321A
10. Reese Cokeley - 10 - SJA - 4A

120:
1. Javier Vieyra - 12 - SS - 5A
2. Isaac Dulgarian - 9 - STA - 5A
3. Michael Olson - 10 - LS - 5A
4. Dustin Reed - 11 - CLB - 4A
5. Chris Burley - 11 - GB - 5A
6. Alex Wolf - 12 - SV - 4A
7. Quinton Harrison - 11 - NEW - 5A
8. Ty Kolterman - 12 - CC - 4A
9. Zak Hensley - 9 - FRT - 321A
10. Corey Spader - 11 - SPH - 4A

126:
1. Austin Hood - 12 - LOU - 4A
2. Dylan Schumacher - 12 - TMP - 321A
3. Colby Watters - 12 - ARK - 5A
4. Bryce Shoemaker - 11 - BAL - 4A
5. Tim Prescott - 12 - MCP - 4A
6. Lukas Maki - 11 - KMC - 5A
7. Hunter Haralson - 11 - LAW - 6A
8. Jacob Parise - 12 - BVW - 6A
9. Tyler Dickman - 10 - MV - 5A
10. Taelor Mendenhall - 12 - CON - 4A

132:
1. Bo Pursel - 12 - LS - 5A
2. TJ Stokes - 12 - GE - 6A
3. Brogan Humphrey - 10 - FRE - 321A
4. Cody Eastman - 11 - ARK - 5A
5. Clay Mulligan - 12 - SC - 321A
6. Andrew Morgan - 12 - BAL - 4A
7. Riley Soward - 12 - HAL - 321A
8. Ben Randolph - 12 - SME - 6A
9. Shane Goetz - 12 - HUT - 6A
10. Jay Blanco - 11 - ONW - 6A

138:
1. Konnor Kriss - 12 - CLB - 4A
2. Miles Johns - 12 - NEW - 5A
3. Brandon Charbonneau - 12 - EMP - 5A
4. Zach Dremel - 12 - OS - 6A
5. Tommy Williams - 12 - STA - 5A
6. Devon Dozier - 11 - OZ - 4A
7. Reis Humphrey - 11 - SMS - 6A
8. Brady Heincker - 12 - DB - 6A
9. Austin Hughey - 11 - ELD - 4A
10. Andrew Millsap - 10 - JC - 6A

145:
1. Tagen Lambotte - 10 - ROS - 321A
2. Jonathan Blackwell - 11 - BS - 4A
3. Aaron Seybold - 12 - PT - 4A
4. Dustin Williams - 10 - GE - 6A
5. Calvin Ochs - 11 - HOX - 321A
6. Chase Locke - 12 - MZ - 6A
7. Lincoln Lemon - 12 - GD - 5A
8. Alex Thibault - 11 - HAL - 321A
9. Ben Becker - 12 - DB - 6A
10. Patrick Weaver - 11 - HUG - 4A

152:
1. Connor Middleton - 12 - ONW - 6A
2. Alex Bontz - 12 - AC - 5A
3. Tyler McMichael - 12 - ARK - 5A
4. Rusty Yarrow - 12 - CC - 4A
5. Mark Hobson - 12 - BS - 4A
6. Andrew Denning - 11 - LAW - 6A
7. Dalton Snyder - 12 - HOX - 321A
8. Trevor Cox - 12 - MZ - 6A
9. Kyle Armstrong - 11 - AN - 4A
10. Jared Johnson - 11 - PR - 321A

160:
1. Matt Reed - 12 - WH - 6A
2. Sam Son - 12 - CH - 4A
3. Colton Duhr - 12 - AN - 4A
4. Gavin Grater - 10 - CC - 4A
5. Rory Haug - 12 - ON - 6A
6. Jacob Eggers - 12 - DC - 6A
7. Bryant Guillen - 11 - SEA - 5A
8. Aaron Puckett - 10 - BS - 4A
9. Trey Dice - 12 - ARK - 5A
10. Jon Heiman - 12 - GC - 6A

170:
1. Blaine Hill - 12 - SME - 6A
2. Levi Eck - 11 - AN - 4A
3. Preston Wiegel - 10 - HAY - 5A
4. Kane Kelly - 12 - AB - 4A
5. Brent Koehn - 12 - PT - 4A
6. Ulyesses DeShazer - 12 - WH - 6A
7. Jake Bradley - 11 - PV - 4A
8. Jesse LeMay - 12 - WEL - 321A
9. Brian Wood - 12 - MH - 6A
10t. Tanner Gardner - 12 - CLW - 4A
10t. Tanner O'Donnell - 12 - SS - 5A

182:
1. Reece Wright-Conklin - 12 - LAW - 6A
2. Brock Long - 12 - SES - 321A
3. Spencer Wilson - 11 - LFS - 6A
4. Tyler Lowe - 12 - EUR - 321A
5. Tyler Higgins - 12 - IKE - 5A
6. Hunter Weddington - 12 - AND - 5A
7. Nick Meck - 11 - SH - 5A
8. Hugh McConnell - 12 - NEW - 5A
9. Trey Campbell - 12 - MH - 6A
10. Armando Sandoval - 11 - ULY - 4A

195:
1. Shawn Marlatt - 12 - DB - 6A
2. Colt Castlebury - 12 - DOU - 321A
3. Darien Willis - 12 - SUM - 4A
4. Ty Suggs - 12 - MH - 6A
5. Litton VanDerWerff - 12 - LS - 5A
6. Dillon Archer - 11 - NEW - 5A
7. Brady Munsch - 12 - SS - 5A
8. Alex Stockton - 12 - GE - 6A
9. Nate Stanley - 11 - SEA - 5A
10. Caleb Franklin - 10 - WN - 6A

220:
1. Luke Bean - 12 - KMC - 5A
2. Nathan Butler - 11 - LV - 6A
3. Colten Lissolo - 12 - HUG - 4A
4. Cash Drylie - 12 - HAY - 5A
5. Jacob English - 12 - BEL - 321A
6. Edward Fitzgerald - 12 - SFT - 4A
7. Jordan Brown - 12 - CON - 4A
8. Tyler Keller - 12 - WNW - 6A
9. Myron Tipton - 12 - OE - 6A
10. Tanner Taylor - 12 - BUR - 321A

285:
1. Will Geary - 11 - TOP - 6A
2. Eric Mason - 12 - STA - 5A
3. Tylor Woodruff - 12 - GD - 5A
4. Luke Hayes - 12 - SC - 321A
5. Clay Wilcox - 11 - CHP - 321A
6. Zach Callahan - 12 - MV - 5A
7. Taylor Krier - 12 - MCP - 4A
8. Broc Bennett - 12 - PT - 5A
9. Hayden Chandler - 12 - DS - 4A
10. Joe Pomatto - 11 - PAO - 4A

Posted By: back in the day

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 10/07/11 03:07 PM

A few tweaks here and there:

The biggest change I see are the two WH wrestlers moving down a weight:

170 -160 1. Matt Reed - 12 - WH - 6A
182-170 6. Ulyesses DeShazer - 12 - WH - 6A
Posted By: Chief Renegade

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 10/07/11 03:15 PM

Yep. That is called teamwork!
Posted By: Dean Welsh

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 10/07/11 07:45 PM

Quote:

A few tweaks here and there:

The biggest change I see are the two WH wrestlers moving down a weight:

170 -160 1. Matt Reed - 12 - WH - 6A
182-170 6. Ulyesses DeShazer - 12 - WH - 6A
_________________________

Dean says: I guess I missed it eariler in the thread. Reed is REALLY going to make 160 pounds again???

Thanks.
Posted By: edwrestling

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 10/08/11 04:05 AM

bryce morgan has beat Dakota Leach every time they wrestle im just wondering why he would be ranked higher then him
Posted By: Chief Renegade

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 10/08/11 12:26 PM

As Dakota grows, expectations grow.
Posted By: back in the day

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 10/08/11 08:26 PM

Originally Posted By: Chief Renegade
As Dakota grows, expectations grow.


"The input must include criteria! Asking, "Why is this guy above that guy" or saying, "I can't believe you have that guy ranked" is not criteria."

Expectations are not what I would call criteria. But it is your list!
Posted By: Olympicwrestling

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 10/09/11 07:36 PM

And why isnt peterson on 126 all class he beat haralson at blue valley sophomore year and beat maki last year at kids and also won triple crown over dustin reed.
any explaination?
Posted By: Chief Renegade

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 10/09/11 08:01 PM

Originally Posted By: Olympicwrestling
And why isnt peterson on 126 all class he beat haralson at blue valley sophomore year and beat maki last year at kids and also won triple crown over dustin reed.
any explaination?


Initially it was because of the 1-2 at state last year. The win two years ago can't hardly be considered. I will look at that for the next update.
Posted By: #1fan

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 10/10/11 01:57 AM

Originally Posted By: Chief Renegade
Originally Posted By: Olympicwrestling
And why isnt peterson on 126 all class he beat haralson at blue valley sophomore year and beat maki last year at kids and also won triple crown over dustin reed.
any explaination?


Initially it was because of the 1-2 at state last year. The win two years ago can't hardly be considered. I will look at that for the next update.


The triple crown over dustin Reed isn't really saying much because twenty seconds in to there greco match Reed broke his leg and they didn't wrestle in freestyle so that isn't much criteria.
Posted By: Chief Renegade

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 10/11/11 11:56 AM

Keep the weight change info coming.

10/14: AC update

11/4: KWCA Pre-Season Class Rankings!
Posted By: XGHSWC

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 10/11/11 05:21 PM

Agree Peterson should be ranked.
If you look at his "body of work" I would think he would be. He is a state medalist, a kid's state champ and a FS/GR champ.
To me his 1-2 at state this past spring shouldn't keep him off the list. Keep in mind those losses were to T. Humphrey who beat Beasley in the finals and a 1-0 to Millsap who is ranked in Chief's beasty 138 class. Although the Haralson win was two years ago which is a factor I agree, I wouldn't say it can't be considered, or shouldn't be. It is not like Haralson wasn't good then because of course he was as he got 2nd in state that year. Peterson has other big wins as well which collectively speak to his over-all potential and position within the hierarchy of Kansas wrestling which is what the all-class list is about I would think.
Of course the quandary is where do you put him? Or should I say, who does he bump? Everyone at 126 is legit. The biggest thing to consider I think is he did beat Maki at kids state and he did FS and GR and wrestled at the junior duals with Maki. They have surely both improved since state. I am certainly not saying that Peterson is better or could beat Maki now, but they are obviously close and comparable.
Of course Chief is the authority and this is just my opinion.
Posted By: coach mock

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 10/12/11 01:15 PM

Peterson should be ranked. He could bet kids that chefs got 126 and 132
Posted By: Chief Renegade

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 10/12/11 02:14 PM

Originally Posted By: coach mock
Peterson should be ranked. He could bet kids that chefs got 126 and 132


Who at 132? He lost to Millsap in that 125 bracket, who lost to Blanco. Blanco is ranked 10 at 132.
Posted By: wrestlingmomxx3

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 10/12/11 02:17 PM

although Jonathan Peterson did go 1-2 at state last spring he did beat Maki at kids, 3x FS/GR champ. to sum up his 2011 season he took 1st at emporia with a pin in the finals, Pinned Ross Whitmore at BVSW Tourny, He also beat Whitmore again for 3rd place, (Whitmore beat Caleb Seaton a this tournament) Then at regional he lost to Beasley 1-0 in the finals. He also wrestled at junior duals, and competed at fargo freshmen/sophomore year.
Posted By: Chief Renegade

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 10/12/11 02:45 PM

Originally Posted By: wrestlingmomxx3
although Jonathan Peterson did go 1-2 at state last spring he did beat Maki at kids, 3x FS/GR champ. to sum up his 2011 season he took 1st at emporia with a pin in the finals, Pinned Ross Whitmore at BVSW Tourny, He also beat Whitmore again for 3rd place, (Whitmore beat Caleb Seaton a this tournament) Then at regional he lost to Beasley 1-0 in the finals. He also wrestled at junior duals, and competed at fargo freshmen/sophomore year.


I should have waited for your post. I just finished going over his season and I am working on that weight again. His losses to Vesta and Ryan Hodges were early. It was nice to see him join us in OKC though!
Posted By: wrestle nuts

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 10/12/11 03:11 PM

Is Peterson 132 or 126?
Posted By: Mahan

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 10/12/11 03:14 PM

What about McCombs - Chanute at 182 or 195
Posted By: coach mock

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 10/12/11 03:36 PM

Peterson should be ranked. He could beat kids that chefs got at 126 and 132
Posted By: coach mock

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 10/12/11 03:45 PM

I'm not going to single the kids out and say peterson can beat this kid and that kid but he won alot of tournments in the off season and he can only beat the kids that show up.
Posted By: S Biddle

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 10/12/11 04:17 PM

Mccomb moved to Texas.
Posted By: Olympicwrestling

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 10/12/11 04:25 PM

Peterson will either be going 126 or possibly 121
Posted By: Chief Renegade

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 10/12/11 05:19 PM

Originally Posted By: Mahan
What about McCombs - Chanute at 182 or 195


It is true, as Scott stated, Jared's family moved to Texas.
Posted By: XGHSWC

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 10/12/11 07:51 PM

Agree Peterson may be a little out-manned at 132 and perhaps not deserving of being on that list although I think if he was at his best, he could probably go with some of those listed and even win some.
Definitely could justify 126 though.
I can't imagine him making 120, but if he can, he could win it in 6A at that weight.
It's all good though and it will work itself out. Peterson will have his chance to prove that he belongs but for now, I am sure that he is just blushing thinking about all the talk in his honor.
It's going to be another great year and I can't wait to get it on!
Kansas Wrestling Rocks!
Posted By: wrestle nuts

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 10/12/11 09:38 PM

Will get a little taste of the upcoming season at Fall Brawl this weekend. Good luck to all the Kansas Wrestlers
Posted By: Chief Renegade

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 10/14/11 12:00 PM

PRE-SEASON RANKING! - Update #2.


TEAM RANKINGS:

1. Andale - 4A
2. Lawrence - 6A
3. Andover Central - 5A
4. Wichita Heights - 6A
5. Arkansas City - 5A
6. St. Thomas Aquinas - 5A
7. Garden City - 6A
8. Pittsburg - 4A
9. Bonner Springs - 4A
10. Manhattan - 6A


106:
1. Parker Howell - 10 - KMC - 5A
2. Trey Francka - 11 - CCO - 321A
3. Jase Stone - 11 - MH - 6A
4. Bryce Morgan - 11 - ELD - 4A
5. Dakota Leach - 11 - GD - 5A
6. Luke Henes - 10 - STA - 5A
7. Tevin Briscoe - 9 - GC - 6A
8. Adam Cole - 9 - CH - 4A
9. Sean DeShazer - 9 - WH - 6A
10. Josh Goepfert - 11 - MRV - 321A

113:
1. Zac Gentzler - 11 - AC - 5A
2. Jason Perez - 12 - ULY - 4A
3. Anthony Calderon - 12 - GC - 6A
4. Tyler Mies - 10 - AN - 4A
5. Kevin Perez - 11 - JC - 6A
6. Hunter Price - 11 - HOL - 4A
7. Jr. Morgan - 11 - AB - 4A
8. Alex Garcia - 12 - DC - 6A
9. John Risewick - 11 - NOR - 321A
10. Reese Cokeley - 10 - SJA - 4A

120:
1. Javier Vieyra - 12 - SS - 5A
2. Isaac Dulgarian - 9 - STA - 5A
3. Michael Olsen - 10 - LS - 5A
4. Dustin Reed - 11 - CLB - 4A
5. Chris Burley - 11 - GB - 5A
6. Alex Wolf - 12 - SV - 4A
7. Quinton Harrison - 11 - NEW - 5A
8. Ty Kolterman - 12 - CC - 4A
9. Zak Hensley - 9 - SJA - 4A
10. Corey Spader - 11 - SPH - 4A

126:
1. Austin Hood - 12 - LOU - 4A
2. Dylan Schumacher - 12 - TMP - 321A
3. Colby Watters - 12 - ARK - 5A
4. Bryce Shoemaker - 11 - BAL - 4A
5. Tim Prescott - 12 - MCP - 4A
6. Hunter Haralson - 11 - LAW - 6A
7. Lukas Maki - 11 - KMC - 5A
8. Jacob Parise - 12 - BVW - 6A
9. Tyler Dickman - 10 - MV - 5A
10. Taelor Mendenhall - 12 - CON - 4A

132:
1. Bo Pursel - 12 - LS - 5A
2. TJ Stokes - 12 - GE - 6A
3. Brogan Humphrey - 10 - FRE - 321A
4. Cody Eastman - 11 - ARK - 5A
5. Clay Mulligan - 12 - SC - 321A
6. Andrew Morgan - 12 - BAL - 4A
7. Riley Soward - 12 - HAL - 321A
8. Ben Randolph - 12 - SME - 6A
9. Shane Goetz - 12 - HUT - 6A
10. Jay Blanco - 11 - ONW - 6A

138:
1. Konnor Kriss - 12 - CLB - 4A
2. Miles Johns - 12 - NEW - 5A
3. Brandon Charbonneau - 12 - EMP - 5A
4. Zach Dremel - 12 - OS - 6A
5. Tommy Williams - 12 - STA - 5A
6. Devon Dozier - 11 - OZ - 4A
7. Reis Humphrey - 11 - SMS - 6A
8. Brady Heincker - 12 - DB - 6A
9. Austin Hughey - 11 - ELD - 4A
10. Andrew Millsap - 10 - JC - 6A

145:
1. Tagen Lambotte - 10 - ROS - 321A
2. Jonathan Blackwell - 11 - BS - 4A
3. Aaron Seybold - 12 - PT - 4A
4. Dustin Williams - 10 - GE - 6A
5. Calvin Ochs - 11 - HOX - 321A
6. Chase Locke - 12 - MZ - 6A
7. Lincoln Lemon - 12 - GD - 5A
8. Alex Thibault - 11 - HAL - 321A
9. Ben Becker - 12 - DB - 6A
10. Patrick Weaver - 11 - HUG - 4A

152:
1. Connor Middleton - 12 - ONW - 6A
2. Alex Bontz - 12 - AC - 5A
3. Tyler McMichael - 12 - ARK - 5A
4. Rusty Yarrow - 12 - CC - 4A
5. Mark Hobson - 12 - BS - 4A
6. Andrew Denning - 11 - LAW - 6A
7. Dalton Snyder - 12 - HOX - 321A
8. Trevor Cox - 12 - MZ - 6A
9. Kyle Armstrong - 11 - AN - 4A
10. Jared Johnson - 11 - PR - 321A

160:
1. Matt Reed - 12 - WH - 6A
2. Sam Son - 12 - CH - 4A
3. Colton Duhr - 12 - AN - 4A
4. Gavin Grater - 10 - CC - 4A
5. Rory Haug - 12 - ON - 6A
6. Jacob Eggers - 12 - DC - 6A
7. Bryant Guillen - 11 - SEA - 5A
8. Aaron Puckett - 10 - BS - 4A
9. Trey Dice - 12 - ARK - 5A
10. Jon Heiman - 12 - GC - 6A

170:
1. Blaine Hill - 12 - SME - 6A
2. Levi Eck - 11 - AN - 4A
3. Preston Wiegel - 10 - HAY - 5A
4. Kane Kelly - 12 - AB - 4A
5. Brent Koehn - 12 - PT - 4A
6. Ulyesses DeShazer - 12 - WH - 6A
7. Jake Bradley - 11 - PV - 4A
8. Jesse LeMay - 12 - WEL - 321A
9. Brian Wood - 12 - MH - 6A
10. Tanner Gardner - 12 - CLW - 4A

182:
1. Reece Wright-Conklin - 12 - LAW - 6A
2. Brock Long - 12 - SES - 321A
3. Spencer Wilson - 11 - LFS - 6A
4. Tyler Lowe - 12 - EUR - 321A
5. Tyler Higgins - 12 - IKE - 5A
6. Hunter Weddington - 12 - AND - 5A
7. Nick Meck - 11 - SH - 5A
8. Hugh McConnell - 12 - NEW - 5A
9. Trey Campbell - 12 - MH - 6A
10. Tyler Henness - 12 - PAO - 4A

195:
1. Shawn Marlatt - 12 - DB - 6A
2. Colt Castlebury - 12 - DOU - 321A
3. Darien Willis - 12 - SUM - 4A
4. Ty Suggs - 12 - MH - 6A
5. Alex Stockton - 12 - GE - 6A
6. Litton VanDerWerff - 12 - LS - 5A
7. Dillon Archer - 11 - NEW - 5A
8. Brady Munsch - 12 - SS - 5A
9. Nate Stanley - 11 - SEA - 5A
10. Caleb Franklin - 10 - WN - 6A

220:
1. Luke Bean - 12 - KMC - 5A
2. Nathan Butler - 11 - LV - 6A
3. Colten Lissolo - 12 - HUG - 4A
4. Cash Drylie - 12 - HAY - 5A
5. Jacob English - 12 - BEL - 321A
6. Edward Fitzgerald - 12 - SFT - 4A
7. Jordan Brown - 12 - CON - 4A
8. Tyler Keller - 12 - WNW - 6A
9. Brad Wilson - 12 - LAW - 6A
10. Myron Tipton - 12 - OE - 6A

285:
1. Will Geary - 11 - TOP - 6A
2. Eric Mason - 12 - STA - 5A
3. Tylor Woodruff - 12 - GD - 5A
4. Luke Hayes - 12 - SC - 321A
5. Clay Wilcox - 11 - CHP - 321A
6. Zach Callahan - 12 - MV - 5A
7. Taylor Krier - 12 - MCP - 4A
8. Broc Bennett - 12 - PT - 5A
9. Hayden Chandler - 12 - DS - 4A
10. Joe Pomatto - 11 - PAO - 4A

Posted By: C. Morgan

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 10/14/11 01:05 PM

Chief,

Thanks for taking the time to put this together. I really enjoy the conversation this generates. This time of year your list is just about the only place for me to get my wrestling fix.
Posted By: Chief Renegade

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 10/14/11 01:35 PM

You are welcome! The responses I have received from coaches and fans have increased every year since the first All-Class ranking five seasons ago.

10/21: Update #3

11/4: Pre-season KWCA Class rankings!
Posted By: BrandonPigorsch

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 10/14/11 01:46 PM

Who are the rankers for each respected class this year?
Posted By: Chief Renegade

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 10/14/11 03:06 PM

The final Class reps will be decided at the KWCA meeting but it looks like:

321A: Jason Brown
4A: KWCA/Eric Johnson
5A: Dennis Charbonneau/Eric Johnson
6A: Bob Gonzales/Eric Johnson
Posted By: BrandonPigorsch

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 10/14/11 03:38 PM

Thanks.
Posted By: wrestlingsister

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 10/15/11 12:53 AM

reed can make 160..... so 160 pounders, beware!!
Posted By: jhayes

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 10/16/11 09:50 PM

Since Michael Olsen beat Austin Hood yesterday at Fall Brawl, does Olsen move up in the rankikng?
Posted By: Bender

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 10/17/11 12:51 AM

Originally Posted By: jhayes
Since Michael Olsen beat Austin Hood yesterday at Fall Brawl, does Olsen move up in the rankikng?


If he bumped up to 126
Posted By: Chief Renegade

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 10/17/11 01:55 AM

I plan to still rank him at 120, but that sure was a quality win!
Posted By: badbo

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 10/17/11 11:36 AM

120 or 126, Olson is one of the best in the state. I look forward to seeing him go at it this year, he will give alot of kids fits.
Posted By: Chief Renegade

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 10/17/11 05:19 PM

Update #3 has been moved up to tomorrow based on the weekend action!
Posted By: Chief Renegade

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 10/18/11 11:41 AM

PRE-SEASON RANKING! - Update #3.


TEAM RANKINGS:

1. Andale - 4A
2. Lawrence - 6A
3. Andover Central - 5A
4. Wichita Heights - 6A
5. Arkansas City - 5A
6. St. Thomas Aquinas - 5A
7. Garden City - 6A
8. Pittsburg - 4A
9. Bonner Springs - 4A
10. Manhattan - 6A


106:
1. Trey Francka - 11 - CCO - 321A
2. Bryce Morgan - 11 - ELD - 4A
3. Jase Stone - 11 - MH - 6A
4. Adam Cole - 9 - CH - 4A
5. Sean DeShazer - 9 - WH - 6A
6. Tristan Star - 9 - LAW - 6A
7. Parker Howell - 10 - KMC - 5A
8. Dakota Leach - 11 - GD - 5A
9. Luke Henes - 10 - STA - 5A
10. Josh Goepfert - 11 - MRV - 321A

113:
1. Zac Gentzler - 11 - AC - 5A
2. Jason Perez - 12 - ULY - 4A
3. Anthony Calderon - 12 - GC - 6A
4. Tyler Mies - 10 - AN - 4A
5. Kevin Perez - 11 - JC - 6A
6. Hunter Price - 11 - HOL - 4A
7. Jr. Morgan - 11 - AB - 4A
8. Alex Garcia - 12 - DC - 6A
9. John Risewick - 11 - NOR - 321A
10. Reese Cokeley - 10 - SJA - 4A

120:
1. Michael Olsen - 10 - LS - 5A
2. Javier Vieyra - 12 - SS - 5A
3. Isaac Dulgarian - 9 - STA - 5A
4. Dustin Reed - 11 - CLB - 4A
5. Chris Burley - 11 - GB - 5A
6. Alex Wolf - 12 - SV - 4A
7. Quinton Harrison - 11 - NEW - 5A
8. Ty Kolterman - 12 - CC - 4A
9. Zak Hensley - 9 - SJA - 4A
10. Corey Spader - 11 - SPH - 4A

126:
1. Austin Hood - 12 - LOU - 4A
2. Dylan Schumacher - 12 - TMP - 321A
3. Colby Watters - 12 - ARK - 5A
4. Bryce Shoemaker - 11 - BAL - 4A
5. Tim Prescott - 12 - MCP - 4A
6. Hunter Haralson - 11 - LAW - 6A
7. Lukas Maki - 11 - KMC - 5A
8. Taelor Mendenhall - 12 - CON - 4A
9. Jacob Parise - 12 - BVW - 6A
10. Tyler Dickman - 10 - MV - 5A

132:
1. Bo Pursel - 12 - LS - 5A
2. TJ Stokes - 12 - GE - 6A
3. Brogan Humphrey - 10 - FRE - 321A
4. Cody Eastman - 11 - ARK - 5A
5. Clay Mulligan - 12 - SC - 321A
6. Andrew Morgan - 12 - BAL - 4A
7. Riley Soward - 12 - HAL - 321A
8. Ben Randolph - 12 - SME - 6A
9. Shane Goetz - 12 - HUT - 6A
10. Jay Blanco - 11 - ONW - 6A

138:
1. Konnor Kriss - 12 - CLB - 4A
2. Miles Johns - 12 - NEW - 5A
3. Brandon Charbonneau - 12 - EMP - 5A
4. Zach Dremel - 12 - OS - 6A
5. Tommy Williams - 12 - STA - 5A
6. Devon Dozier - 11 - OZ - 4A
7. Reis Humphrey - 11 - SMS - 6A
8. Brady Heincker - 12 - DB - 6A
9. Austin Hughey - 11 - ELD - 4A
10. Andrew Millsap - 10 - JC - 6A

145:
1. Tagen Lambotte - 10 - ROS - 321A
2. Jonathan Blackwell - 11 - BS - 4A
3. Aaron Seybold - 12 - PT - 4A
4. Dustin Williams - 10 - GE - 6A
5. Calvin Ochs - 11 - HOX - 321A
6. Chase Locke - 12 - MZ - 6A
7. Lincoln Lemon - 12 - GD - 5A
8. Alex Thibault - 11 - HAL - 321A
9. Ben Becker - 12 - DB - 6A
10. Patrick Weaver - 11 - HUG - 4A

152:
1. Connor Middleton - 12 - ONW - 6A
2. Alex Bontz - 12 - AC - 5A
3. Rusty Yarrow - 12 - CC - 4A
4. Trey Dice - 12 - ARK - 5A
5. Mark Hobson - 12 - BS - 4A
6. Andrew Denning - 11 - LAW - 6A
7. Dalton Snyder - 12 - HOX - 321A
8. Trevor Cox - 12 - MZ - 6A
9. Razzy Morales - 12 - ULY - 4A
10. Jared Johnson - 11 - PR - 321A

160:
1. Matt Reed - 12 - WH - 6A
2. Sam Son - 12 - CH - 4A
3. Colton Duhr - 12 - AN - 4A
4. Tyler McMichael - 12 - ARK - 5A
5. Gavin Grater - 10 - CC - 4A
6. Rory Haug - 12 - ON - 6A
7. Jacob Eggers - 12 - DC - 6A
8. Bryant Guillen - 11 - SEA - 5A
9. Aaron Puckett - 10 - BS - 4A
10. Jon Heiman - 12 - GC - 6A

170:
1. Blaine Hill - 12 - SME - 6A
2. Levi Eck - 11 - AN - 4A
3. Preston Wiegel - 10 - HAY - 5A
4. Kane Kelly - 12 - AB - 4A
5. Brent Koehn - 12 - PT - 4A
6. Ulyesses DeShazer - 12 - WH - 6A
7. Jake Bradley - 11 - PV - 4A
8. Jesse LeMay - 12 - WEL - 321A
9. Brian Wood - 12 - MH - 6A
10. Tanner Gardner - 12 - CLW - 4A

182:
1. Reece Wright-Conklin - 12 - LAW - 6A
2. Brock Long - 12 - SES - 321A
3. Spencer Wilson - 11 - LFS - 6A
4. Tyler Lowe - 12 - EUR - 321A
5. Tyler Higgins - 12 - IKE - 5A
6. Hunter Weddington - 12 - AND - 5A
7. Nick Meck - 11 - SH - 5A
8. Hugh McConnell - 12 - NEW - 5A
9. Trey Campbell - 12 - MH - 6A
10. Tyler Henness - 12 - PAO - 4A

195:
1. Shawn Marlatt - 12 - DB - 6A
2. Colt Castlebury - 12 - DOU - 321A
3. Darien Willis - 12 - SUM - 4A
4. Ty Suggs - 12 - MH - 6A
5. Alex Stockton - 12 - GE - 6A
6. Litton VanDerWerff - 12 - LS - 5A
7. Dillon Archer - 11 - NEW - 5A
8. Brady Munsch - 12 - SS - 5A
9. Nate Stanley - 11 - SEA - 5A
10. Caleb Franklin - 10 - WN - 6A

220:
1. Luke Bean - 12 - KMC - 5A
2. Nathan Butler - 11 - LV - 6A
3. Colten Lissolo - 12 - HUG - 4A
4. Cash Drylie - 12 - HAY - 5A
5. Edward Fitzgerald - 12 - SFT - 4A
6. Jordan Brown - 12 - CON - 4A
7. Tyler Keller - 12 - WNW - 6A
8. Brad Wilson - 12 - LAW - 6A
9. Myron Tipton - 12 - OE - 6A
10. Riley Oharah - 12 - GDL - 321A

285:
1. Will Geary - 11 - TOP - 6A
2. Eric Mason - 12 - STA - 5A
3. Tylor Woodruff - 12 - GD - 5A
4. Luke Hayes - 12 - SC - 321A
5. Clay Wilcox - 11 - CHP - 321A
6. Zach Callahan - 12 - MV - 5A
7. Taylor Krier - 12 - MCP - 4A
8. Broc Bennett - 12 - PT - 5A
9. Jacob English - 12 - BEL - 321A
10. Hayden Chandler - 12 - DS - 4A


Posted By: fragged91

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 10/18/11 10:31 PM

Chief,

First time I logged in this year. STA ranked 6th all class, with 4 ranked all class? No real studs like they have had in the past.
Posted By: CMB

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 10/19/11 01:29 AM

Quiet a mix up in the 106lb class. Did Parker and Dakota lose a arm or leg over the weekend. Just wondering how those freshmen jumped over them?
Posted By: Peterson

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 10/19/11 02:47 AM

Well Parker Howell lost to Tristan Star at Fall Brawl. Adam Cole beat Star at Kids State. I don't understand why Logan Terrill isn't up there? He beat Star at Fall Brawl and lost to Cole at Kids.
Posted By: ReDPloyd

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 10/19/11 09:59 AM

Originally Posted By: fragged91
Chief,

First time I logged in this year. STA ranked 6th all class, with 4 ranked all class? No real studs like they have had in the past.

There are a lot of talented wrestlers on this squad with a lot of experience. I expect that they will do very well this year.
Posted By: XGHSWC

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 10/19/11 11:27 AM

Ok, that explains why Howell dropped but why did Leach drop?
Posted By: badbo

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 10/19/11 12:13 PM

Fall brawl made 106 pretty interesting...Kids might have lost head to head then beat two others that the kid who beat them lost to. I don't know that I explained that well but you can look at the bracket.
Posted By: Cokeley

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 10/19/11 01:39 PM

Originally Posted By: fragged91
Chief,

First time I logged in this year. STA ranked 6th all class, with 4 ranked all class? No real studs like they have had in the past.


How long ago? Eric Mason is a returning state champ. Isaac Dulgarian is a potential 4xer. Tommy Williams is a multi All American at Fargo who will make a run for a title his senior year. Luke Henes will be in the hunt as well. That is just off of the top of my head. They won state as a team, the last time, without any champions so I would say they are known more for their depth than for individual studs. I believe they have a couple of 2xer's and half dozen or so other state champs in the past 25 years. Good luck to the Saints this year.
Posted By: Quagmire

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 10/19/11 01:47 PM

I believe this is what Mr.Pursel was trying to say:

Champ. Round 1 - Logan Terrill (Kansas) won by decision over Tristan Star (Kansas) (Dec 3-2)

Cons. Round 4 - Mitchell McKee (Minnesota) won by major decision over Logan Terrill (Kansas) (Maj 11-2)

Cons. Round 5 - Tristan Star (Kansas) won by decision over Mitchell McKee (Minnesota) (Dec 5-3)

3rd Place Match - Jonah Eide (Iowa) won by decision over Tristan Star (Kansas) (Dec 3-1)

Champ. Round 2 - Logan Terrill (Kansas) won by decision over Jonah Eide (Iowa) (Dec 8-1)

Then to add to the confusion Howell beat Mckee and then Star beat Howell.
Posted By: Chief Renegade

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 10/19/11 01:50 PM

Originally Posted By: Peterson
Well Parker Howell lost to Tristan Star at Fall Brawl. Adam Cole beat Star at Kids State. I don't understand why Logan Terrill isn't up there? He beat Star at Fall Brawl and lost to Cole at Kids.


Logan Terrill is right outside the rankings. Yes, he beat Star and then lost to a kid 11-2 that Star beat in that same bracket! In that kids state bracket he lost to Cole and Goldenstein. That Fall Brawl bracket proved that we are in for quite a few changes out of that 106 class. I have spent THE MOST time on that weight this past week.
Posted By: XGHSWC

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 10/19/11 03:40 PM

Yes, but what about Leach? He didn't go to the Brawl so he was "punished"?
If that is the case I understand, but he does start on his soccer team right now and he is really good.
Others are in FB or CC and couldn't/didn't go either. Many of them, including Leach, wrestled in the spring and during the summer though, went to Kid's, Brute, SP, camps, the Duals, etc.
Posted By: Chief Renegade

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 10/19/11 04:42 PM

It's just a result of adding a wrestler to that weight. Tristan Star was added after his win over the #1 ranked Howell. I then went over my research on the incoming freshmen. That improved Cole and DeShazer. It was a challenge to determine how far Howell would drop. In all that mix, Leach dropped a bit. I am a Dakota fan and have him at #2 in 5A.
Posted By: wrestle nuts

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 10/19/11 04:47 PM

The Railroaders of Newton should make some noise this year. Everyone from last years state team is back for another year along with a few new state bound wrestlers this year.
Posted By: badbo

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 10/19/11 04:53 PM

Newton will be tough. They have several very good wrestlers back.
Posted By: Peterson

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 10/19/11 05:06 PM

And I can probably speak for everyone else and say that we appreciate the time and effort you put into these rankings. Keep 'em coming Chief.
Posted By: Chief Renegade

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 10/19/11 05:11 PM

Originally Posted By: badbo
Newton will be tough. They have several very good wrestlers back.


It should be an interesting year for Newton.

AC and 5A Ranked:

120 - Harrison
138 - Johns
182 - McConnell
195 - Archer

These guys should contribute well, with a real chance to place:

113 - Ramos-Thaw - 5A ranked
126 - Magana
132 - Monares - Almost 5A ranked
145 - McEachern - 5A ranked
170 - Langley - Almost 5A ranked
220 - McConnell
285 - Lee - Almost 5A ranked
Posted By: XGHSWC

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 10/19/11 06:12 PM

10-4 Chief, I get it.
And believe me, I am not trying to break your b..... smile I love the rankings and you are the authority. Its just Leach was #5 and now #8 after Howell dropped. So he dropped even though he didn't lose. I get it, he is #2 in 5A. That would seem logical if we could say for sure that Howell could beat him. I have some reliable sources that would refute that based on some recent practices that both attended. It is all good though. Leach like Peterson like Hughey like etc. will have a chance to prove themselves as actions do speak louder than words.
Posted By: Tiger hopeful

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 10/19/11 08:02 PM

I believe Johns 106 has a good chance at placing this year also.
Posted By: Chief Renegade

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 10/20/11 12:23 PM

Is Brandon Ball a freshman this year?
Posted By: Coach Prieto

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 10/20/11 12:47 PM

Chief,
Ball is home schooled and would of been a freshmen last year for Great Bend High School. What do you know about his status for this year? Is he going to attend school? He is one tough cookie.
Posted By: gbwc

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 10/20/11 01:25 PM

Ball in in the 10 grade and attending hoisington school.
Posted By: Chief Renegade

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 10/20/11 01:44 PM

Originally Posted By: gbwc
Ball in in the 10 grade and attending hoisington school.


Projected at 113?
Posted By: gbwc

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 10/20/11 04:28 PM

ball will be at 120 maybe 126 he has not decided yet
Posted By: Tiger hopeful

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 10/20/11 08:48 PM

hey chief, when are the class rankings going to be released
Posted By: Chief Renegade

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 10/20/11 10:50 PM

November 4th.
Posted By: Tiger hopeful

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 10/21/11 01:07 AM

any predictions for 5a 126 and 5a 132?????
Posted By: fragged91

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 10/21/11 06:05 AM

I'm sure they will have a good team. They usually do. They have always had a good kids club feeding them. They have had some studs in the past.

I expected more ranked wrestlers or a couple of dominant wrestlers for the team to be ranked 6th all class. But, after looking at it again, it doesn't look like any of the top 10 teams have more than 5 top 10 individuals. I'm assuming the 5A rankings will show the depth.
Posted By: lazyman_1

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 10/21/11 01:11 PM

Do state placings and or performance outweigh out of season competition?
Posted By: Chief Renegade

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 10/21/11 04:51 PM

Originally Posted By: lazyman_1
Do state placings and or performance outweigh out of season competition?


Usually...

These are folkstyle rankings. Summer wrestling does provide good criteria but is effected by style differences, weight changes, etc.
Posted By: Peterson

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 10/21/11 04:59 PM

Andale is ranked #1 with only 3 AC wrestlers. Andover Central is #3 with only 2 AC wrestlers. Pittsburg is #8 with 3 AC wrestlers. But the depth of those teams are so great. Also with the other wrestlers just outside the rankings. It's going to be a tough battle in all the classes. I can't wait for season to start!
Posted By: Chief Renegade

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 10/21/11 05:08 PM

It is interesting how the Team rankings are shaking out within each class. I am very close to being done with 4A/5A/6A and the All-Class team rankings will change soon. 5A seems to be the toughest battle but 4A and 6A have some great teams in them. Teams like Newton, Manhattan, Shawnee Heights, Chanute and Hoxie will make some serious noise. Wichita Heights and Ark City get tougher every time I look at them.
Posted By: wrestle nuts

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 10/21/11 09:45 PM

I would think its tough to rank 126 to 145 with the changes in weight classes. With loosing a weight class you have lots of kids scrambling for position.
Posted By: Blast Double1

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 10/23/11 10:01 PM

at 152 I believe Razzy placed behind the Mulvane kid at state.
Posted By: Chief Renegade

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 10/24/11 01:43 PM

That was at 140. I have Fennewald at 145 but have not heard a confirmation on that.
Posted By: XGHSWC

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 10/25/11 02:54 AM

Based on what I have seen and know, Ben Randolph should be no less than #4.
I realize this is my opinion but it is not bias, it is based on first hand observations, etc.
Posted By: Chief Renegade

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 10/25/11 12:06 PM

Originally Posted By: XGHSWC
Based on what I have seen and know, Ben Randolph should be no less than #4.
I realize this is my opinion but it is not bias, it is based on first hand observations, etc.


With Eastman moving up two weights and Morgan one, you have a point. That 6A/130 bracket was very tough. Randolph also owns the unlimited gas tank!
Posted By: Chief Renegade

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 10/25/11 01:28 PM

PRE-SEASON RANKING! - Update #4.


TEAM RANKINGS:

1. Andale - 4A
2. Lawrence - 6A
3. Arkansas City - 5A
4. Andover Central - 5A
5. Wichita Heights - 6A
6. St. Thomas Aquinas - 5A
7. Garden City - 6A
8. Pittsburg - 4A
9. Bonner Springs - 4A
10. Manhattan - 6A


106:
1. Trey Francka - 11 - CCO - 321A
2. Bryce Morgan - 11 - ELD - 4A
3. Jase Stone - 11 - MH - 6A
4. Adam Cole - 9 - CH - 4A
5. Sean DeShazer - 9 - WH - 6A
6. Tristan Star - 9 - LAW - 6A
7. Parker Howell - 10 - KMC - 5A
8. Dakota Leach - 11 - GD - 5A
9. Luke Henes - 10 - STA - 5A
10. Josh Goepfert - 11 - MRV - 321A

113:
1. Zac Gentzler - 11 - AC - 5A
2. Jason Perez - 12 - ULY - 4A
3. Anthony Calderon - 12 - GC - 6A
4. Tyler Mies - 10 - AN - 4A
5. Kevin Perez - 11 - JC - 6A
6. Jr. Morgan - 11 - AB - 4A
7. Hunter Price - 11 - HOL - 4A
8. Alex Garcia - 12 - DC - 6A
9. John Risewick - 11 - NOR - 321A
10. Reese Cokeley - 10 - SJA - 4A

120:
1. Michael Olsen - 10 - LS - 5A
2. Javier Vieyra - 12 - SS - 5A
3. Isaac Dulgarian - 9 - STA - 5A
4. Dustin Reed - 11 - CLB - 4A
5. Chris Burley - 11 - GB - 5A
6. Alex Wolf - 12 - SV - 4A
7. Quinton Harrison - 11 - NEW - 5A
8. Ty Kolterman - 12 - CC - 4A
9. Zak Hensley - 9 - SJA - 4A
10. Corey Spader - 11 - SPH - 4A

126:
1. Austin Hood - 12 - LOU - 4A
2. Dylan Schumacher - 12 - TMP - 321A
3. Colby Watters - 12 - ARK - 5A
4. Tim Prescott - 12 - MCP - 4A
5. Bryce Shoemaker - 11 - BAL - 4A
6. Hunter Haralson - 11 - LAW - 6A
7. Lukas Maki - 11 - KMC - 5A
8. Taelor Mendenhall - 12 - CON - 4A
9. Jacob Parise - 12 - BVW - 6A
10. Tyler Dickman - 10 - MV - 5A

132:
1. Bo Pursel - 12 - LS - 5A
2. TJ Stokes - 12 - GE - 6A
3. Brogan Humphrey - 10 - FRE - 321A
4. Cody Eastman - 11 - ARK - 5A
5. Clay Mulligan - 12 - SC - 321A
6. Ben Randolph - 12 - SME - 6A
7. Andrew Morgan - 12 - BAL - 4A
8. Shane Goetz - 12 - HUT - 6A
9. Riley Soward - 12 - HAL - 321A
10. Jay Blanco - 11 - ONW - 6A

138:
1. Konnor Kriss - 12 - CLB - 4A
2. Miles Johns - 12 - NEW - 5A
3. Brandon Charbonneau - 12 - EMP - 5A
4. Tommy Williams - 12 - STA - 5A
5. Reis Humphrey - 11 - SMS - 6A
6. Brady Heincker - 12 - DB - 6A
7. Austin Hughey - 11 - ELD - 4A
8. Andrew Millsap - 10 - JC - 6A
9. Luke Lee - 12 - AC - 5A
10. Wyatt Villers - 12 - ARK - 5A

145:
1. Tagen Lambotte - 10 - ROS - 321A
2. Jonathan Blackwell - 11 - BS - 4A
3. Aaron Seybold - 12 - PT - 4A
4. Dustin Williams - 10 - GE - 6A
5. Calvin Ochs - 11 - HOX - 321A
6. Chase Locke - 12 - MZ - 6A
7. Lincoln Lemon - 12 - GD - 5A
8. Alex Thibault - 11 - HAL - 321A
9. Ben Becker - 12 - DB - 6A
10. Patrick Weaver - 11 - HUG - 4A

152:
1. Connor Middleton - 12 - ONW - 6A
2. Alex Bontz - 12 - AC - 5A
3. Trey Dice - 12 - ARK - 5A
4. Rusty Yarrow - 12 - CC - 4A
5. Ky Biddle - 12 - CB - 321A
6. Mark Hobson - 12 - BS - 4A
7. Andrew Denning - 11 - LAW - 6A
8. Tyler Willis - 11 - SH - 5A
9. Dalton Snyder - 12 - HOX - 321A
10t. Trevor Cox - 12 - MZ - 6A
10t. Mark Smith - 12 - ROS - 321A

160:
1. Matt Reed - 12 - WH - 6A
2. Sam Son - 12 - CH - 4A
3. Colton Duhr - 12 - AN - 4A
4. Tyler McMichael - 12 - ARK - 5A
5. Gavin Grater - 10 - CC - 4A
6. Rory Haug - 12 - ON - 6A
7. Jacob Eggers - 12 - DC - 6A
8. Bryant Guillen - 11 - SEA - 5A
9. Aaron Puckett - 11 - BS - 4A
10. Jon Heiman - 12 - GC - 6A

170:
1. Blaine Hill - 12 - SME - 6A
2. Levi Eck - 11 - AN - 4A
3. Preston Wiegel - 10 - HAY - 5A
4. Kane Kelly - 12 - AB - 4A
5. Brent Koehn - 12 - PT - 4A
6. Ulyesses DeShazer - 12 - WH - 6A
7. Jake Bradley - 11 - PV - 4A
8. Jesse LeMay - 12 - WEL - 321A
9. Brian Wood - 12 - MH - 6A
10. Tanner Gardner - 12 - CLW - 4A

182:
1. Reece Wright-Conklin - 12 - LAW - 6A
2. Brock Long - 12 - SES - 321A
3. Spencer Wilson - 11 - LFS - 6A
4. Tyler Lowe - 12 - EUR - 321A
5. Tyler Higgins - 12 - IKE - 5A
6. Hunter Weddington - 12 - AND - 5A
7. Nick Meck - 11 - SH - 5A
8. Hugh McConnell - 12 - NEW - 5A
9. Trey Campbell - 12 - MH - 6A
10. Tyler Henness - 12 - PAO - 4A

195:
1. Shawn Marlatt - 12 - DB - 6A
2. Colt Castlebury - 12 - DOU - 321A
3. Darien Willis - 12 - SUM - 4A
4. Ty Suggs - 12 - MH - 6A
5. Alex Stockton - 12 - GE - 6A
6. Litton VanDerWerff - 12 - LS - 5A
7. Dillon Archer - 11 - NEW - 5A
8. Brady Munsch - 12 - SS - 5A
9. Nate Stanley - 11 - SEA - 5A
10. Caleb Franklin - 10 - WN - 6A

220:
1. Luke Bean - 12 - KMC - 5A
2. Nathan Butler - 11 - LV - 6A
3. Colten Lissolo - 12 - HUG - 4A
4. Cash Drylie - 12 - HAY - 5A
5. Edward Fitzgerald - 12 - SFT - 4A
6. Jordan Brown - 12 - CON - 4A
7. Tyler Keller - 12 - WNW - 6A
8. Brad Wilson - 12 - LAW - 6A
9. Myron Tipton - 12 - OE - 6A
10. Riley Oharah - 12 - GDL - 321A

285:
1. Will Geary - 11 - TOP - 6A
2. Eric Mason - 12 - STA - 5A
3. Tylor Woodruff - 12 - GD - 5A
4. Luke Hayes - 12 - SC - 321A
5. Clay Wilcox - 11 - CHP - 321A
6. Zach Callahan - 12 - MV - 5A
7. Taylor Krier - 12 - MCP - 4A
8. Broc Bennett - 12 - PT - 5A
9. Jacob English - 12 - BEL - 321A
10. Hayden Chandler - 12 - DS - 4A

Posted By: XGHSWC

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 10/25/11 06:24 PM

Originally Posted By: Chief Renegade
Originally Posted By: XGHSWC
Based on what I have seen and know, Ben Randolph should be no less than #4.
I realize this is my opinion but it is not bias, it is based on first hand observations, etc.


With Eastman moving up two weights and Morgan one, you have a point. That 6A/130 bracket was very tough. Randolph also owns the unlimited gas tank!


Yes, he certainly does. I witnessed it first hand up close at state last year. You definitely have to beat him to beat him. If you slack up or slow down any at all, he will beat you. Also watched him at Basehor and he worked the state runner up from another class. I think he could give Stokes fits, with all due respect.
Posted By: XGHSWC

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 10/25/11 06:30 PM

What happened to Dremel and Dozier?
Posted By: Chief Renegade

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 10/25/11 06:44 PM

Dozier is reported at 152.
Posted By: Gable Fan

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 10/25/11 07:06 PM

And Dremel?
Posted By: Chief Renegade

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 10/25/11 07:09 PM

No details, just reported as not wrestling at OS.
Posted By: gardner2x

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 10/26/11 01:39 PM

Originally Posted By: XGHSWC
Originally Posted By: Chief Renegade
Originally Posted By: XGHSWC
Based on what I have seen and know, Ben Randolph should be no less than #4.
I realize this is my opinion but it is not bias, it is based on first hand observations, etc.


With Eastman moving up two weights and Morgan one, you have a point. That 6A/130 bracket was very tough. Randolph also owns the unlimited gas tank!


Yes, he certainly does. I witnessed it first hand up close at state last year. You definitely have to beat him to beat him. If you slack up or slow down any at all, he will beat you. Also watched him at Basehor and he worked the state runner up from another class. I think he could give Stokes fits, with all due respect.


"my oppinion is not biased" Tj stokes wrestled thomas gilman nebraska at iowa wrestling camp splitting wins with him... come on now.
Posted By: Quagmire

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 10/26/11 02:42 PM

I would love to see gilman vs. stokes
Posted By: XGHSWC

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 10/27/11 03:01 AM

Originally Posted By: gardner2x
Originally Posted By: XGHSWC
Originally Posted By: Chief Renegade
Originally Posted By: XGHSWC
Based on what I have seen and know, Ben Randolph should be no less than #4.
I realize this is my opinion but it is not bias, it is based on first hand observations, etc.


With Eastman moving up two weights and Morgan one, you have a point. That 6A/130 bracket was very tough. Randolph also owns the unlimited gas tank!


Yes, he certainly does. I witnessed it first hand up close at state last year. You definitely have to beat him to beat him. If you slack up or slow down any at all, he will beat you. Also watched him at Basehor and he worked the state runner up from another class. I think he could give Stokes fits, with all due respect.


"my oppinion is not biased" Tj stokes wrestled thomas gilman nebraska at iowa wrestling camp splitting wins with him... come on now.


Oh boo hoo, I am sorry that I offended you.

One would think from a comment like that you don't know much about Randolph. I never talk about anyone unless I know a lot about them and know what I am talking about and I rarely even talk about anyone at all unless my son has wrestled them or they were at least in a bracket together.

And yes, that is what I said, "my opinion is not bias", at all. I don't have a horse in the race. I don't come from Shawnee Mission or even Johnson County. I am not related to Randolph or are even good friends or what ever, where your opinion is clearly bias Mr. gardner2x. It doesn't take much to figure out who you could be.

I never said Randolph would beat TJ or even said he might or could even maybe beat TJ or even get close to beating him. I said he "could" give him fits and I guarantee you he will because he gives everyone he wrestles fits. But don't take my word for it, ask TJ. TJ beat Randolph 3-2 at the Johnson County this past season. Sounds like he probably gave him fits then. Ask Corado or Daddy Seybold and they will tell you. When I told Kevin that my son was going to have to wrestle Randolph at state he proceeded to tell me that even though Mario beat him, Randolph "gave him fits". My son beat Randolph at state but Randolph definitely gave him fits. My son has beat a lot of kids that "gave him fits". He has even pinned some kids that gave him fits. Chief already spoke about Randolph's gas tank. It is crazy. He truly has a Shoemaker type motor. Randolph would give any of the best wrestlers around his weight in the state fits, but I won't throw any more names out because I don't want to offend anyone else. Randolph is just that kind of wrestler. He gives the best wrestlers fits.

Plus it really wasn't even about TJ or you, it was about Randolph. I wasn't trying to disrespect TJ, you can see where I said with all due respect. I would never try to disrespect TJ or any wrestler for that matter. Everyone knows who TJ is and how good he is so no need to get offended or defend him. He is a state champion and has earned respect from everyone. Your comment on the other hand was disrespectful to Randolph, but now I guess I shouldn't have brought up Stokes. It is just that right now they are the top two ranked wrestlers in 6A at the weight so the comment seemed very appropriate.

It was really about Randolph. I was trying to celebrate him. I love that kid and his style. He is a great kid and a dang good wrestler. He is friendly and courteous. On the mat, he is non stop action and excitement. My opinion, which is definitely not bias when it comes to Randolph, is that he is as tough as nails.
Posted By: Tommyboy

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 10/27/11 01:02 PM

Are you joking Quagmire! Stokes is good , but Gilman is on another level. Gilman is a prize recruit for Iowa.

Dan Gentzler- Andover Central
Posted By: Chief Renegade

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 10/27/11 03:04 PM

Any 5A 113's out there that I'm missing?
Posted By: BigEd

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 10/27/11 03:07 PM

I would like to see Randolph go up to 138 and bang heads with some of those guys!
Posted By: XGHSWC

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 10/27/11 03:38 PM

Originally Posted By: Tommyboy
Are you joking Quagmire! Stokes is good , but Gilman is on another level. Gilman is a prize recruit for Iowa.

Dan Gentzler- Andover Central


Maybe so, but I am sure that it would still be a good enjoyable match.

Originally Posted By: BigEd
I would like to see Randolph go up to 138 and bang heads with some of those guys!


Now that is a good, positive, appropriate comment. Thanks.
Posted By: Quagmire

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 10/27/11 04:12 PM

Originally Posted By: XGHSWC
Originally Posted By: Tommyboy
Are you joking Quagmire! Stokes is good , but Gilman is on another level. Gilman is a prize recruit for Iowa.

Dan Gentzler- Andover Central


Maybe so, but I am sure that it would still be a good enjoyable match.


I agree with everything Tommyboy and X says:
Stokes is good.
Gilman is on another level.
It would be an enjoyable match.

IMO none of the funk that Stokes uses would work on Gilman. Gilman is way to technically sound. He's also quick, strong, and super explosive. Gilman, along with Corey Clark and Jack Hathaway, is already a college ready wrestler. Heck, this summer Hathaway beat a couple of D1 kids at Fila Juniors one includes the Pittsburg kid that was a match or 2 away from being an all american. These 3 kids are all on a whole different level than anyone in Kansas.
Posted By: Chief Renegade

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 10/28/11 01:16 PM

11/1 - Pre-Season All-Class Update #5

11/4 - KWCA Pre-Season Individual Class Ranking!
Posted By: back in the day

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 10/28/11 02:16 PM

Come on Chief. You have been early with some of the updates. You have it done. Let us have it to chew on.

"instant gratification takes too long!"

We may have to occupy your office!!!!!!


Posted By: XGHSWC

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 10/28/11 02:30 PM

Originally Posted By: Quagmire
Originally Posted By: XGHSWC
Originally Posted By: Tommyboy
Are you joking Quagmire! Stokes is good , but Gilman is on another level. Gilman is a prize recruit for Iowa.

Dan Gentzler- Andover Central


Maybe so, but I am sure that it would still be a good enjoyable match.


I agree with everything Tommyboy and X says:
Stokes is good.
Gilman is on another level.
It would be an enjoyable match.

IMO none of the funk that Stokes uses would work on Gilman. Gilman is way to technically sound. He's also quick, strong, and super explosive. Gilman, along with Corey Clark and Jack Hathaway, is already a college ready wrestler. Heck, this summer Hathaway beat a couple of D1 kids at Fila Juniors one includes the Pittsburg kid that was a match or 2 away from being an all american. These 3 kids are all on a whole different level than anyone in Kansas.


Sure, but didn't gardner2x say they split.
And my boy said that Litvak told him that Stokes beat Gilman 7-2.
If that is the case, they are clearly not that far apart.
Posted By: Quagmire

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 10/28/11 02:46 PM

Originally Posted By: XGHSWC
Originally Posted By: Quagmire
Originally Posted By: XGHSWC
Originally Posted By: Tommyboy
Are you joking Quagmire! Stokes is good , but Gilman is on another level. Gilman is a prize recruit for Iowa.

Dan Gentzler- Andover Central


Maybe so, but I am sure that it would still be a good enjoyable match.


I agree with everything Tommyboy and X says:
Stokes is good.
Gilman is on another level.
It would be an enjoyable match.

IMO none of the funk that Stokes uses would work on Gilman. Gilman is way to technically sound. He's also quick, strong, and super explosive. Gilman, along with Corey Clark and Jack Hathaway, is already a college ready wrestler. Heck, this summer Hathaway beat a couple of D1 kids at Fila Juniors one includes the Pittsburg kid that was a match or 2 away from being an all american. These 3 kids are all on a whole different level than anyone in Kansas.


Sure, but didn't gardner2x say they split.
And my boy said that Litvak told him that Stokes beat Gilman 7-2.
If that is the case, they are clearly not that far apart.


I'd have to see it to believe it. Can't trust everything you hear.. Especially from a gardner kid grin
Posted By: Chief Renegade

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 10/28/11 03:07 PM

Originally Posted By: back in the day
Come on Chief. You have been early with some of the updates. You have it done. Let us have it to chew on.

"instant gratification takes too long!"

We may have to occupy your office!!!!!!




The first peek can't be released until after the KWCA meeting. The All-Class update on Tuesday may have a few surprises in it. The Team rankings will be changed and at least two individual #1's will be different.
Posted By: back in the day

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 10/28/11 04:00 PM

I resemble that remark about gardner kids!
Posted By: lil white boy

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 10/30/11 12:07 AM

obvisouly the "funk" stokes uses worked on Gilman if he beat him? I am not from gardner but i have seen the stokes brothers wrestle alot so i have seen alot of thier "funk" which is un-describeable. What do you guys mean he is on a diffrent level?

Gilman is quick, strong and explosive. Stokes is VERY quick and strong enough to hold his own. Gilman beat Stokes by 1 the first match and the second match Stokes handled it. Stokes put him on his back not once not twice but 3 times. I am NOT against Gilman by no means he is a very talanted wrestle and congrats to him committing to Iowa! I am very intrested to see where Stokes goes.

Quagmire- If you dont beleive it just because a Gardner kid said it then ask one of the Iowa coaches. I was there to watch and recruit some kids. i seen both matches the first was a score of 3-2 the second match was 9-2.

I agree with all of the people that said Randolf is a very good wrestler and has a endless tank but again i am defending stokes but not attacking any wrestler, Stokes has beat Randolf 3 or 4 times 2 of which stokes has pinned Randolf. There is NO defence to the 3-2 match with them from what i heard it was a VERY good match Randolf was like the energizer bunny (nothing new) Good luck to him with whatever he decides to do after his wrestling season!!!

Thanks!!
Posted By: Chief Renegade

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 10/30/11 12:39 AM

To be clear, Randolph and Stokes have wrestled three times. Stokes won 8-7, 3-2 and by fall.
Posted By: lil white boy

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 10/30/11 02:24 AM

I stand corrected, thanks Chief!
Posted By: Quagmire

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 10/30/11 03:30 PM

Originally Posted By: lil white boy
obvisouly the "funk" stokes uses worked on Gilman if he beat him? I am not from gardner but i have seen the stokes brothers wrestle alot so i have seen alot of thier "funk" which is un-describeable. What do you guys mean he is on a diffrent level?

Gilman is quick, strong and explosive. Stokes is VERY quick and strong enough to hold his own. Gilman beat Stokes by 1 the first match and the second match Stokes handled it. Stokes put him on his back not once not twice but 3 times. I am NOT against Gilman by no means he is a very talanted wrestle and congrats to him committing to Iowa! I am very intrested to see where Stokes goes.

Quagmire- If you dont beleive it just because a Gardner kid said it then ask one of the Iowa coaches. I was there to watch and recruit some kids. i seen both matches the first was a score of 3-2 the second match was 9-2.

I agree with all of the people that said Randolf is a very good wrestler and has a endless tank but again i am defending stokes but not attacking any wrestler, Stokes has beat Randolf 3 or 4 times 2 of which stokes has pinned Randolf. There is NO defence to the 3-2 match with them from what i heard it was a VERY good match Randolf was like the energizer bunny (nothing new) Good luck to him with whatever he decides to do after his wrestling season!!!

Thanks!!


First of all, my comment about the Gardner kids was a joke. I have plenty of friends that have wrestled on that team and are on the team now. Secondly, I don't know any of the coaches in Iowa that were there but, I do know Thomas. I have been watching him wrestle since the days when he was with Team Central out of Park Hill, Missouri. I will just ask him. Finally, lil white boy, you might not be from Gardner but you obviously have some close ties with them. Just out of curiosity who do you recruit for? And one more thing, that "un-describeable funk" is a nasty headlock, a sweet spladle, some unreal strength combine with some pretty sick flexibility, and natural ability to scramble in any position.
Posted By: MaxPain

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 10/30/11 10:36 PM

No way Stokes beat Gilman. I'm sure you believed it to be Gilman that Stokes split with 3-2, and 9-2 but I promise it wasn't. Not to discredit Stokes but its not even close. Gilman is one of the best 17-18 year olds in the whole world.
Posted By: Chief Renegade

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 10/31/11 03:12 PM

PRE-SEASON RANKING! - Update #5.


TEAM RANKINGS:

1. Andale - 4A
2. Arkansas City - 5A
3. Lawrence - 6A
4. Andover Central - 5A
5. Wichita Heights - 6A
6. St. Thomas Aquinas - 5A
7. Garden City - 6A
8. Pittsburg - 4A
9. Newton - 5A
10. Bonner Springs - 4A


106:
1. Trey Francka - 11 - CCO - 321A
2. Bryce Morgan - 11 - ELD - 4A
3. Jase Stone - 11 - MH - 6A
4. Adam Cole - 9 - CH - 4A
5. Sean DeShazer - 9 - WH - 6A
6. Tristan Star - 9 - LAW - 6A
7. Dakota Leach - 11 - GD - 5A
8. Parker Howell - 10 - KMC - 5A
9. Luke Henes - 10 - STA - 5A
10. Josh Goepfert - 11 - MRV - 321A

113:
1. Zac Gentzler - 11 - AC - 5A
2. Jason Perez - 12 - ULY - 4A
3. Anthony Calderon - 12 - GC - 6A
4. Tyler Mies - 10 - AN - 4A
5. Kevin Perez - 11 - JC - 6A
6. Jr. Morgan - 11 - AB - 4A
7. Hunter Price - 11 - HOL - 4A
8. Alex Garcia - 12 - DC - 6A
9. John Risewick - 11 - NOR - 321A
10. Reese Cokeley - 10 - SJA - 4A

120:
1. Javier Vieyra - 12 - SS - 5A
2. Isaac Dulgarian - 9 - STA - 5A
3. Dustin Reed - 11 - CLB - 4A
4. Chris Burley - 11 - GB - 5A
5. Alex Wolf - 12 - SV - 4A
6. Quinton Harrison - 11 - NEW - 5A
7. Ty Kolterman - 12 - CC - 4A
8. Zak Hensley - 9 - SJA - 4A
9. Corey Spader - 11 - SPH - 4A
10. Brad Hake - 12 - CON - 4A

126:
1. Michael Olsen - 10 - LS - 5A
2. Austin Hood - 12 - LOU - 4A
3. Dylan Schumacher - 12 - TMP - 321A
4. Colby Watters - 12 - ARK - 5A
5. Tim Prescott - 12 - MCP - 4A
6. Bryce Shoemaker - 11 - BAL - 4A
7. Hunter Haralson - 11 - LAW - 6A
8. Lukas Maki - 11 - KMC - 5A
9. Taelor Mendenhall - 12 - CON - 4A
10. Jacob Parise - 12 - BVW - 6A

132:
1. Bo Pursel - 12 - LS - 5A
2. TJ Stokes - 12 - GE - 6A
3. Brogan Humphrey - 10 - FRE - 321A
4. Cody Eastman - 11 - ARK - 5A
5. Clay Mulligan - 12 - SC - 321A
6. Ben Randolph - 12 - SME - 6A
7. Austin Hughey - 11 - ELD - 4A
8. Andrew Morgan - 12 - BAL - 4A
9. Shane Goetz - 12 - HUT - 6A
10. Luke Lee - 12 - AC - 5A

138:
1. Konnor Kriss - 12 - CLB - 4A
2. Miles Johns - 12 - NEW - 5A
3. Brandon Charbonneau - 12 - EMP - 5A
4. Tommy Williams - 12 - STA - 5A
5. Reis Humphrey - 11 - SMS - 6A
6. Brady Heincker - 12 - DB - 6A
7. Andrew Millsap - 10 - JC - 6A
8. Wyatt Villers - 11 - ARK - 5A
9. Thatcher Murdoch - 12 - PAR - 4A
10. Jacob Durossette - 10 - FS - 4A

145:
1. Tagen Lambotte - 10 - ROS - 321A
2. Jonathan Blackwell - 11 - BS - 4A
3. Aaron Seybold - 12 - PT - 4A
4. Dustin Williams - 10 - GE - 6A
5. Calvin Ochs - 11 - HOX - 321A
6. Chase Locke - 12 - MZ - 6A
7. Lincoln Lemon - 12 - GD - 5A
8. Ben Becker - 12 - DB - 6A
9. Alex Thibault - 11 - HAL - 321A
10. Patrick Weaver - 11 - HUG - 4A

152:
1. Connor Middleton - 12 - ONW - 6A
2. Alex Bontz - 12 - AC - 5A
3. Trey Dice - 12 - ARK - 5A
4. Rusty Yarrow - 12 - CC - 4A
5. Ky Biddle - 12 - CB - 321A
6. Mark Hobson - 12 - BS - 4A
7. Andrew Denning - 11 - LAW - 6A
8. Tyler Willis - 12 - SH - 5A
9. Dalton Snyder - 12 - HOX - 321A
10t. Trevor Cox - 12 - MZ - 6A
10t. Mark Smith - 12 - ROS - 321A

160:
1. Matt Reed - 12 - WH - 6A
2. Sam Son - 12 - CH - 4A
3. Colton Duhr - 12 - AN - 4A
4. Tyler McMichael - 12 - ARK - 5A
5. Gavin Grater - 10 - CC - 4A
6. Rory Haug - 12 - ON - 6A
7. Jacob Eggers - 12 - DC - 6A
8. Bryant Guillen - 11 - SEA - 5A
9. Aaron Puckett - 11 - BS - 4A
10. Blake Hill - 12 - SME - 6A

170:
1. Blaine Hill - 12 - SME - 6A
2. Levi Eck - 11 - AN - 4A
3. Preston Wiegel - 10 - HAY - 5A
4. Kane Kelly - 12 - AB - 4A
5. Brent Koehn - 12 - PT - 4A
6. Ulyesses DeShazer - 12 - WH - 6A
7. Jake Bradley - 11 - PV - 4A
8. Jesse LeMay - 12 - WEL - 321A
9. Brian Wood - 12 - MH - 6A
10. Tanner Gardner - 12 - CLW - 4A

182:
1. Reece Wright-Conklin - 12 - LAW - 6A
2. Brock Long - 12 - SES - 321A
3. Spencer Wilson - 11 - LFS - 6A
4. Tyler Lowe - 12 - EUR - 321A
5. Tyler Higgins - 12 - IKE - 5A
6. Hunter Weddington - 12 - AND - 5A
7. Nick Meck - 11 - SH - 5A
8. Hugh McConnell - 12 - NEW - 5A
9. Trey Campbell - 12 - MH - 6A
10. Tyler Henness - 12 - PAO - 4A

195:
1. Shawn Marlatt - 12 - DB - 6A
2. Colt Castlebury - 12 - DOU - 321A
3. Darien Willis - 12 - SUM - 4A
4. Ty Suggs - 12 - MH - 6A
5. Alex Stockton - 12 - GE - 6A
6. Litton VanDerWerff - 12 - LS - 5A
7. Dillon Archer - 11 - NEW - 5A
8. Brady Munsch - 12 - SS - 5A
9. Nate Stanley - 11 - SEA - 5A
10. Caleb Franklin - 10 - WN - 6A

220:
1. Luke Bean - 12 - KMC - 5A
2. Nathan Butler - 11 - LV - 6A
3. Colten Lissolo - 12 - HUG - 4A
4. Cash Drylie - 12 - HAY - 5A
5. Edward Fitzgerald - 12 - SFT - 4A
6. Jordan Brown - 12 - CON - 4A
7. Tyler Keller - 12 - WNW - 6A
8. Brad Wilson - 12 - LAW - 6A
9. Myron Tipton - 12 - OE - 6A
10. Riley Oharah - 12 - GDL - 321A

285:
1. Will Geary - 11 - TOP - 6A
2. Eric Mason - 12 - STA - 5A
3. Tylor Woodruff - 12 - GD - 5A
4. Luke Hayes - 12 - SC - 321A
5. Clay Wilcox - 11 - CHP - 321A
6. Zach Callahan - 12 - MV - 5A
7. Taylor Krier - 12 - MCP - 4A
8. Broc Bennett - 12 - PT - 4A
9. Jacob English - 12 - BEL - 321A
10. Hayden Chandler - 12 - DS - 4A

Posted By: edwrestling

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 10/31/11 04:53 PM

hugheys planning on going 132
Posted By: Chief Renegade

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 10/31/11 05:37 PM

Originally Posted By: edwrestling
hugheys planning on going 132


Got it switched. Thanks.
Posted By: Beeson

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 11/01/11 09:05 PM

I nominate Coach Buckbee for Coach of the year. He has taken the 5th ranked Bulldogs to a #2 ranking....WITHOUT WRESTLING A MATCH. Good Job Coach, keep up the work. Hopefully you can break into the #1 spot without having your squad step on the mat. I don't remember it being this easy back in my day. We had to wrestle and prove ourselves before we could move ahead of a team. Again, Great Job Coach Buckbee!!!! wink
Posted By: Cokeley

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 11/01/11 09:17 PM

They are just rankings not placings.
Posted By: Pittpepa

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 11/01/11 11:53 PM

Awww. he's baacckk!
Posted By: Dean Welsh

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 11/02/11 10:04 AM

Yeah! I'm glad Will is back (although I'm sure he never left). Always a voice of reason and humor and no fear to 'tell it like it is' or, at least how he see's it. Best wishes and good luck to the Cokeley family this year.
Posted By: Chief Renegade

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 11/02/11 11:05 AM

Originally Posted By: Beeson
I nominate Coach Buckbee for Coach of the year. He has taken the 5th ranked Bulldogs to a #2 ranking....WITHOUT WRESTLING A MATCH. Good Job Coach, keep up the work. Hopefully you can break into the #1 spot without having your squad step on the mat. I don't remember it being this easy back in my day. We had to wrestle and prove ourselves before we could move ahead of a team. Again, Great Job Coach Buckbee!!!! wink


Some clarity for Beeson. Ark City has TWO NEW wrestlers that I was not sure would be eligible or out for wrestling. Once I added them in the individual class rankings due to be released on Friday, the added team points moved them up. I know it gets really complicated for you Chad with no color pictures.

Let me explain further...

By posting one single pre-season ranking early in October, I want to avoid leaving wrestlers in the ranking that have:

1. Moved out of state.
2. Decided not to wrestle.
3. Out for the season due to injury.
4. Out for the season due to discipline.
5. Changed weights.
6. Provided clear criteria from last year that I missed.
7. Wrestled for the Ark City Takedown Club. jk.
Posted By: Pittpepa

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 11/02/11 11:19 PM

I was not referring to Will being back. I have a lot of respect for him, his sons, & his posts.
Posted By: Pittpepa

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 11/02/11 11:21 PM

I was referring to the post above Will's post. wink
Posted By: Dean Welsh

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 11/02/11 11:37 PM

I see. My bad.

I don't know Beeson. But, I like his wit and wisdom with what he posts here. And, obviously he was a good HS wrestler (3 state HS titles from what I have gathered). Hard to ignore a dude with those kind of credentials.
Posted By: Pittpepa

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 11/03/11 01:37 AM

Last season there was quite a "dialogue" on this site that many thought would result in a "match" between a couple of former wrestlers. It was a bit comical at times. wink
Posted By: Chief Renegade

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 11/03/11 02:28 PM

KWCA Individual Class Pre-Season rankings release is tomorrow!
Posted By: back in the day

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 11/03/11 05:37 PM

IT is Tommorrow already in China!
Posted By: Chief Renegade

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 11/04/11 12:00 PM

Posting time - Approx. 11:30am
Posted By: Gable Fan

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 11/04/11 01:04 PM

Chief - Is Matt Paxton wrestling for BVW this year? Projected weight?
Posted By: Chief Renegade

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 11/04/11 01:30 PM

Originally Posted By: Gable Fan
Chief - Is Matt Paxton wrestling for BVW this year? Projected weight?


Yes. Reported at 132.
Posted By: Rick Creek

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 11/04/11 10:19 PM

so just wondering if Ochs from hoxie is at 138 or 145
Posted By: BVWJAGS

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 11/05/11 12:01 AM

I heard Matt Paxton is going 126 this year.
Posted By: gardner2x

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 11/05/11 12:32 AM

So does that make Tj Stokes one of the best 17-18 year olds in the world? One reason wrestling is great is because the winner is not declared until after a 6 minute match! Show some respect where it is deserved in this case to Mr.Tj Stokes! Just because you didn't see the match doesn't mean it didn't happen. Come off your high horse (Chief Renegade, Quagmire, MaxPain) you are not the experts you "think" you are... You can not predict any given match. That's all I got.
Posted By: Quagmire

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 11/05/11 12:58 AM

I may not be an expert but I would bet that I probably know more than you gardner2x. You Gardner guys need to not take stuff so personally. All I'm saying is I have to see T.J. beat Gilman before I can actually believe it. T.J. is good, but I haven't seen him win tournaments like Fargo. Maybe if more kids wrestled the summer circuit too and proved them selves in front of the whole country then I guess there wouldn't be any argument here.
Posted By: gardner2x

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 11/05/11 01:10 AM

"none of the funk that Stokes uses would work on Gilman" (Quagmire)
Before someone without "gardner" in the user name said anything about the Gillman vs stokes dispute, you were quick to choose sides. You gave no respect to tj, for beating gillman saying there was no chance and that gillman was a different level than stokes. Stokes may not go to summer wrestling tourneys, but why should that mean he can't compete with the kids that do? Stokes has alot of natural talent. Don't be so quick to judge. People from gardner may take things personally after a comment of "you can't trust what people say... especially from a gardner kid"
Posted By: John Johnson

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 11/05/11 01:41 AM

So where would Aspen Kmiec fit in this conversation - obviously - on a whole different level. I think the point is, some kids are on just a whole different level - something you can't really understand unless you got to true national tournaments. I doubt if any disrespect was intended - Quagmire's knowledge and respect for the sport and those in it are without question!
Posted By: Quagmire

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 11/05/11 01:54 AM

Funny. You forgot the smily face that was at the end of my comment that has, according to you, gotten the whole town of Gardner, KS all upset. Seriously, chill out. I'm pretty sure everyone was ready to just let T.J. and Thomas settle it at Gardner until you brought it back up again. And for the record I don't think Chief said anything about T.J. and Thomas but you forgot about Tommyboy's comment.
Posted By: MaxPain

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 11/05/11 02:28 AM

Gardner2x, no it doesn't make Stokes one of the best in the world. It makes you sorely mistaken. Stokes is one of the best in Ks but Gilman is on another level.

Does the fact that Stokes doesn't do summer wrestling mean he can't beat Gilman. No. But it's just not a believable or a reasonable argument. It doesn't take a expert to know that. Just someone with common sense.

I will say this! If that were true! Then TJ Stokes needs to be moved to the #1 recuit in KS and John Smith, Rob Koll and Cael Sanderson need to get the Stokes family # on their speed dial!
Posted By: Dean Welsh

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 11/05/11 02:52 AM

Originally Posted By: Pittpepa
Last season there was quite a "dialogue" on this site that many thought would result in a "match" between a couple of former wrestlers. It was a bit comical at times. wink


Ha! How could I forget that one? Agreed. It was quite comical, however I didn't know that it started here on the rankings thread.

And, BTW - my dad can beat up your dad! ;-)
Posted By: Pittpepa

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 11/05/11 01:45 PM

grinThat made me smile! Thanks.
Posted By: Chief Renegade

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 11/05/11 04:40 PM

Originally Posted By: MaxPain
Gardner2x, no it doesn't make Stokes one of the best in the world. It makes you sorely mistaken. Stokes is one of the best in Ks but Gilman is on another level.

Does the fact that Stokes doesn't do summer wrestling mean he can't beat Gilman. No. But it's just not a believable or a reasonable argument. It doesn't take a expert to know that. Just someone with common sense.

I will say this! If that were true! Then TJ Stokes needs to be moved to the #1 recuit in KS and John Smith, Rob Koll and Cael Sanderson need to get the Stokes family # on their speed dial!


Eye witness testimony...

TJ did beat Gilman at a camp match in Iowa. The color commentary reports that Gilman just got finished with a 2.5 hour workout with the Hawkeye team. Gilman was also cutting for Fargo and weighed 124. Was TJ at 135ish? As with any story, there are details on each side. Bottom line is, it did happen. He intends to go 126 at Gardner. Maybe TJ can pull to get there? Hathaway plans to go 132.
Posted By: MaxPain

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 11/05/11 06:44 PM

Wow.. Well guess I stand corrected! Lets not high jack the thread anymore. I never intended to discredit Stokes anyhow. I know the kid is a stud. Great for him.

On to rankings.... smile
Posted By: BLT

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 11/06/11 12:51 PM

Has Woodruff and Mason ever seen each other?
Posted By: Chief Renegade

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 11/06/11 02:00 PM

Not to my knowledge.
Posted By: BLT

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 11/06/11 03:04 PM

Then what's the criteria in the ranking?
Posted By: Chief Renegade

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 11/06/11 06:10 PM

Originally Posted By: BLT
Then what's the criteria in the ranking?


Eric Mason - 2010 5A State Champion at 285.

Tylor Woodruff - 4th place at 215.
Posted By: PurpleDad

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 11/07/11 01:29 AM

Originally Posted By: BLT
Then what's the criteria in the ranking?



I think they will both be at Bobcat....
Posted By: Chief Renegade

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 11/07/11 02:58 PM

PRE-SEASON RANKING!


TEAM RANKINGS:

1. Andale - 4A
2. Arkansas City - 5A
3. Lawrence - 6A
4. Andover Central - 5A
5. Wichita Heights - 6A
6. St. Thomas Aquinas - 5A
7. Garden City - 6A
8. Pittsburg - 4A
9. Newton - 5A
10. Bonner Springs - 4A


106:
1. Trey Francka - 11 - CCO - 321A
2. Bryce Morgan - 11 - ELD - 4A
3. Jase Stone - 11 - MH - 6A
4. Adam Cole - 9 - CH - 4A
5. Sean DeShazer - 9 - WH - 6A
6. Tristan Star - 9 - LAW - 6A
7. Dakota Leach - 11 - GD - 5A
8. Parker Howell - 10 - KMC - 5A
9. Luke Henes - 10 - STA - 5A
10. Josh Goepfert - 11 - MRV - 321A

113:
1. Zac Gentzler - 11 - AC - 5A
2. Jason Perez - 12 - ULY - 4A
3. Anthony Calderon - 12 - GC - 6A
4. Tyler Mies - 10 - AN - 4A
5. Kevin Perez - 11 - JC - 6A
6. Jr. Morgan - 11 - AB - 4A
7. Hunter Price - 11 - HOL - 4A
8. Alex Garcia - 12 - DC - 6A
9. John Risewick - 11 - NOR - 321A
10. Reese Cokeley - 10 - SJA - 4A

120:
1. Javier Vieyra - 12 - SS - 5A
2. Isaac Dulgarian - 9 - STA - 5A
3. Dustin Reed - 11 - CLB - 4A
4. Chris Burley - 11 - GB - 5A
5. Quinton Harrison - 11 - NEW - 5A
6. Ty Kolterman - 12 - CC - 4A
7. Zak Hensley - 9 - SJA - 4A
8. Corey Spader - 11 - SPH - 4A
9. Brad Hake - 12 - CON - 4A
10. Kevin Arnhold - 12 - HAY - 5A

126:
1. Michael Olsen - 10 - LS - 5A
2. Austin Hood - 12 - LOU - 4A
3. Dylan Schumacher - 12 - TMP - 321A
4. Colby Watters - 12 - ARK - 5A
5. Tim Prescott - 12 - MCP - 4A
6. Bryce Shoemaker - 11 - BAL - 4A
7. Hunter Haralson - 11 - LAW - 6A
8. Lukas Maki - 11 - KMC - 5A
9. Alex Wolf - 12 - SV - 4A
10. Taelor Mendenhall - 12 - CON - 4A

132:
1. Bo Pursel - 12 - LS - 5A
2. TJ Stokes - 12 - GE - 6A
3. Brogan Humphrey - 10 - FRE - 321A
4. Cody Eastman - 11 - ARK - 5A
5. Clay Mulligan - 12 - SC - 321A
6. Ben Randolph - 12 - SME - 6A
7. Austin Hughey - 11 - ELD - 4A
8. Andrew Morgan - 12 - BAL - 4A
9. Shane Goetz - 12 - HUT - 6A
10. Luke Lee - 12 - AC - 5A

138:
1. Konnor Kriss - 12 - CLB - 4A
2. Miles Johns - 12 - NEW - 5A
3. Brandon Charbonneau - 12 - EMP - 5A
4. Tommy Williams - 12 - STA - 5A
5. Reis Humphrey - 11 - SMS - 6A
6. Brady Heincker - 12 - DB - 6A
7. Andrew Millsap - 10 - JC - 6A
8. Wyatt Villers - 11 - ARK - 5A
9. Jake Gehring - 11 - BUH - 4A
10. Jared Fiscus - 11 - CH - 4A

145:
1. Tagen Lambotte - 10 - ROS - 321A
2. Jonathan Blackwell - 11 - BS - 4A
3. Aaron Seybold - 12 - PT - 4A
4. Dustin Williams - 10 - GE - 6A
5. Calvin Ochs - 11 - HOX - 321A
6. Chase Locke - 12 - MZ - 6A
7. Lincoln Lemon - 12 - GD - 5A
8. Ben Becker - 12 - DB - 6A
9. Alex Thibault - 11 - HAL - 321A
10. Patrick Weaver - 11 - HUG - 4A

152:
1. Connor Middleton - 12 - ONW - 6A
2. Alex Bontz - 12 - AC - 5A
3. Trey Dice - 12 - ARK - 5A
4. Rusty Yarrow - 12 - CC - 4A
5. Ky Biddle - 12 - CB - 321A
6. Mark Hobson - 12 - BS - 4A
7. Andrew Denning - 11 - LAW - 6A
8. Dalton Snyder - 12 - HOX - 321A
9. Trevor Cox - 12 - MZ - 6A
10. Mark Smith - 12 - ROS - 321A

160:
1. Sam Son - 12 - CH - 4A
2. Colton Duhr - 12 - AN - 4A
3. Tyler McMichael - 12 - ARK - 5A
4. Gavin Grater - 10 - CC - 4A
5. Rory Haug - 12 - ON - 6A
6. Jacob Eggers - 12 - DC - 6A
7. Bryant Guillen - 11 - SEA - 5A
8. Aaron Puckett - 11 - BS - 4A
9. Blake Hill - 12 - SME - 6A
10. Jon Heiman - 12 - GC

170:
1. Matt Reed - 12 - WH - 6A
2. Blaine Hill - 12 - SME - 6A
3. Levi Eck - 11 - AN - 4A
4. Preston Wiegel - 10 - HAY - 5A
5. Kane Kelly - 12 - AB - 4A
6. Brent Koehn - 12 - PT - 4A
7. Tyler Willis - 12 - SH - 5A
8. Jake Bradley - 11 - PV - 4A
9. Jesse LeMay - 12 - WEL - 321A
10. Brian Wood - 12 - MH - 6A

182:
1. Reece Wright-Conklin - 12 - LAW - 6A
2. Brock Long - 12 - SES - 321A
3. Spencer Wilson - 11 - LFS - 6A
4. Tyler Lowe - 12 - EUR - 321A
5. Tyler Higgins - 12 - IKE - 5A
6. Hunter Weddington - 12 - AND - 5A
7. Nick Meck - 11 - SH - 5A
8. Hugh McConnell - 12 - NEW - 5A
9. Trey Campbell - 12 - MH - 6A
10. Tyler Henness - 12 - PAO - 4A

195:
1. Shawn Marlatt - 12 - DB - 6A
2. Ulyesses DeShazer - 12 - WH - 6A
3. Colt Castlebury - 12 - DOU - 321A
4. Darien Willis - 12 - SUM - 4A
5. Ty Suggs - 12 - MH - 6A
6. Alex Stockton - 12 - GE - 6A
7. Litton VanDerWerff - 12 - LS - 5A
8. Dillon Archer - 11 - NEW - 5A
9. Brady Munsch - 12 - SS - 5A
10. Nate Stanley - 11 - SEA - 5A

220:
1. Luke Bean - 12 - KMC - 5A
2. Nathan Butler - 11 - LV - 6A
3. Colten Lissolo - 12 - HUG - 4A
4. Cash Drylie - 12 - HAY - 5A
5. Edward Fitzgerald - 12 - SFT - 4A
6. Jordan Brown - 12 - CON - 4A
7. Tyler Keller - 12 - WNW - 6A
8. Brad Wilson - 12 - LAW - 6A
9. Myron Tipton - 12 - OE - 6A
10. Riley Oharah - 12 - GDL - 321A

285:
1. Will Geary - 11 - TOP - 6A
2. Eric Mason - 12 - STA - 5A
3. Tylor Woodruff - 12 - GD - 5A
4. Luke Hayes - 12 - SC - 321A
5. Clay Wilcox - 11 - CHP - 321A
6. Zach Callahan - 12 - MV - 5A
7. Taylor Krier - 12 - MCP - 4A
8. Broc Bennett - 12 - PT - 4A
9. Jacob English - 12 - BEL - 321A
10. Hayden Chandler - 12 - DS - 4A

Posted By: Chief Renegade

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 11/10/11 04:55 PM

PRE-SEASON RANKING!

CHANGES AT 160/170/195!


TEAM RANKINGS:

1. Andale - 4A
2. Arkansas City - 5A
3. Lawrence - 6A
4. Andover Central - 5A
5. Wichita Heights - 6A
6. St. Thomas Aquinas - 5A
7. Garden City - 6A
8. Pittsburg - 4A
9. Newton - 5A
10. Bonner Springs - 4A


106:
1. Trey Francka - 11 - CCO - 321A
2. Bryce Morgan - 11 - ELD - 4A
3. Jase Stone - 11 - MH - 6A
4. Adam Cole - 9 - CH - 4A
5. Sean DeShazer - 9 - WH - 6A
6. Tristan Star - 9 - LAW - 6A
7. Dakota Leach - 11 - GD - 5A
8. Parker Howell - 10 - KMC - 5A
9. Luke Henes - 10 - STA - 5A
10. Josh Goepfert - 11 - MRV - 321A

113:
1. Zac Gentzler - 11 - AC - 5A
2. Jason Perez - 12 - ULY - 4A
3. Anthony Calderon - 12 - GC - 6A
4. Tyler Mies - 10 - AN - 4A
5. Kevin Perez - 11 - JC - 6A
6. Jr. Morgan - 11 - AB - 4A
7. Hunter Price - 11 - HOL - 4A
8. Alex Garcia - 12 - DC - 6A
9. John Risewick - 11 - NOR - 321A
10. Reese Cokeley - 10 - SJA - 4A

120:
1. Javier Vieyra - 12 - SS - 5A
2. Isaac Dulgarian - 9 - STA - 5A
3. Dustin Reed - 11 - CLB - 4A
4. Chris Burley - 11 - GB - 5A
5. Quinton Harrison - 11 - NEW - 5A
6. Ty Kolterman - 12 - CC - 4A
7. Zak Hensley - 9 - SJA - 4A
8. Corey Spader - 11 - SPH - 4A
9. Brad Hake - 12 - CON - 4A
10. Kevin Arnhold - 12 - HAY - 5A

126:
1. Michael Olsen - 10 - LS - 5A
2. Austin Hood - 12 - LOU - 4A
3. Dylan Schumacher - 12 - TMP - 321A
4. Colby Watters - 12 - ARK - 5A
5. Tim Prescott - 12 - MCP - 4A
6. Bryce Shoemaker - 11 - BAL - 4A
7. Hunter Haralson - 11 - LAW - 6A
8. Lukas Maki - 11 - KMC - 5A
9. Alex Wolf - 12 - SV - 4A
10. Taelor Mendenhall - 12 - CON - 4A

132:
1. Bo Pursel - 12 - LS - 5A
2. TJ Stokes - 12 - GE - 6A
3. Brogan Humphrey - 10 - FRE - 321A
4. Cody Eastman - 11 - ARK - 5A
5. Clay Mulligan - 12 - SC - 321A
6. Ben Randolph - 12 - SME - 6A
7. Austin Hughey - 11 - ELD - 4A
8. Andrew Morgan - 12 - BAL - 4A
9. Shane Goetz - 12 - HUT - 6A
10. Luke Lee - 12 - AC - 5A

138:
1. Konnor Kriss - 12 - CLB - 4A
2. Miles Johns - 12 - NEW - 5A
3. Brandon Charbonneau - 12 - EMP - 5A
4. Tommy Williams - 12 - STA - 5A
5. Reis Humphrey - 11 - SMS - 6A
6. Brady Heincker - 12 - DB - 6A
7. Andrew Millsap - 10 - JC - 6A
8. Wyatt Villers - 11 - ARK - 5A
9. Jake Gehring - 11 - BUH - 4A
10. Jared Fiscus - 11 - CH - 4A

145:
1. Tagen Lambotte - 10 - ROS - 321A
2. Jonathan Blackwell - 11 - BS - 4A
3. Aaron Seybold - 12 - PT - 4A
4. Dustin Williams - 10 - GE - 6A
5. Calvin Ochs - 11 - HOX - 321A
6. Chase Locke - 12 - MZ - 6A
7. Lincoln Lemon - 12 - GD - 5A
8. Ben Becker - 12 - DB - 6A
9. Alex Thibault - 11 - HAL - 321A
10. Patrick Weaver - 11 - HUG - 4A

152:
1. Connor Middleton - 12 - ONW - 6A
2. Alex Bontz - 12 - AC - 5A
3. Trey Dice - 12 - ARK - 5A
4. Rusty Yarrow - 12 - CC - 4A
5. Ky Biddle - 12 - CB - 321A
6. Mark Hobson - 12 - BS - 4A
7. Andrew Denning - 11 - LAW - 6A
8. Dalton Snyder - 12 - HOX - 321A
9. Trevor Cox - 12 - MZ - 6A
10. Mark Smith - 12 - ROS - 321A

160:
1. Sam Son - 12 - CH - 4A
2. Colton Duhr - 12 - AN - 4A
3. Tyler McMichael - 12 - ARK - 5A
4. Gavin Grater - 10 - CC - 4A
5. Rory Haug - 12 - ON - 6A
6. Jacob Eggers - 12 - DC - 6A
7. Bryant Guillen - 11 - SEA - 5A
8. Aaron Puckett - 11 - BS - 4A
9. Blake Hill - 12 - SME - 6A
10. Jon Heiman - 12 - GC

170:
1. Matt Reed - 12 - WH - 6A
2. Blaine Hill - 12 - SME - 6A
3. Levi Eck - 11 - AN - 4A
4. Preston Wiegel - 10 - HAY - 5A
5. Kane Kelly - 12 - AB - 4A
6. Brent Koehn - 12 - PT - 4A
7. Tyler Willis - 12 - SH - 5A
8. Jake Bradley - 11 - PV - 4A
9. Jesse LeMay - 12 - WEL - 321A
10. Brian Wood - 12 - MH - 6A

182:
1. Reece Wright-Conklin - 12 - LAW - 6A
2. Brock Long - 12 - SES - 321A
3. Spencer Wilson - 11 - LFS - 6A
4. Tyler Lowe - 12 - EUR - 321A
5. Tyler Higgins - 12 - IKE - 5A
6. Hunter Weddington - 12 - AND - 5A
7. Nick Meck - 11 - SH - 5A
8. Hugh McConnell - 12 - NEW - 5A
9. Trey Campbell - 12 - MH - 6A
10. Tyler Henness - 12 - PAO - 4A

195:
1. Shawn Marlatt - 12 - DB - 6A
2. Ulyesses DeShazer - 12 - WH - 6A
3. Colt Castlebury - 12 - DOU - 321A
4. Darien Willis - 12 - SUM - 4A
5. Ty Suggs - 12 - MH - 6A
6. Alex Stockton - 12 - GE - 6A
7. Litton VanDerWerff - 12 - LS - 5A
8. Dillon Archer - 11 - NEW - 5A
9. Brady Munsch - 12 - SS - 5A
10. Nate Stanley - 11 - SEA - 5A

220:
1. Luke Bean - 12 - KMC - 5A
2. Nathan Butler - 11 - LV - 6A
3. Colten Lissolo - 12 - HUG - 4A
4. Cash Drylie - 12 - HAY - 5A
5. Edward Fitzgerald - 12 - SFT - 4A
6. Jordan Brown - 12 - CON - 4A
7. Tyler Keller - 12 - WNW - 6A
8. Brad Wilson - 12 - LAW - 6A
9. Myron Tipton - 12 - OE - 6A
10. Riley Oharah - 12 - GDL - 321A

285:
1. Will Geary - 11 - TOP - 6A
2. Eric Mason - 12 - STA - 5A
3. Tylor Woodruff - 12 - GD - 5A
4. Luke Hayes - 12 - SC - 321A
5. Clay Wilcox - 11 - CHP - 321A
6. Zach Callahan - 12 - MV - 5A
7. Taylor Krier - 12 - MCP - 4A
8. Broc Bennett - 12 - PT - 4A
9. Jacob English - 12 - BEL - 321A
10. Hayden Chandler - 12 - DS - 4A
Posted By: BigEd

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 11/10/11 05:36 PM

Deshazer at 195?!
Posted By: BigEd

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 11/10/11 05:39 PM

Deshazer vs. Marlatt might be the best heavier weight match ever. two of the quickest big guys iv ever seen wrestle!
Posted By: Travis Phippen

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 11/10/11 06:43 PM

Deshazer went from 112 as a freshman to 195 as a senior. Now that is a growth spurt.
Posted By: L.Geyer

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 11/10/11 08:48 PM

Kansas rankings have Luke Hays ranked #1 in 321A at 220, is he not going to make it down to 220?
Posted By: Chiefs

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 11/10/11 09:44 PM

Originally Posted By: L.Geyer
Kansas rankings have Luke Hays ranked #1 in 321A at 220, is he not going to make it down to 220?


Doesn't sound like it. I heard last week he was around 270 now.
Posted By: wrstlmom1970

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 11/10/11 09:45 PM

Luke Hayes will not be making 220 this year. He is going HW.
Posted By: bug

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 11/13/11 05:12 AM

What weight is Parise wrestling then?
Originally Posted By: BVWJAGS
I heard Matt Paxton is going 126 this year.
Posted By: Chief Renegade

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 11/14/11 12:23 PM

Originally Posted By: bug
What weight is Parise wrestling then?
Originally Posted By: BVWJAGS
I heard Matt Paxton is going 126 this year.


Reported:

Parise - 126
Paxton - 132
Posted By: Chief Renegade

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 11/14/11 05:29 PM

PRE-SEASON RANKING!

CHANGES AT 113/145/152.


TEAM RANKINGS:

1. Andale - 4A
2. Arkansas City - 5A
3. Lawrence - 6A
4. Andover Central - 5A
5. Wichita Heights - 6A
6. St. Thomas Aquinas - 5A
7. Garden City - 6A
8. Pittsburg - 4A
9. Newton - 5A
10. Bonner Springs - 4A


106:
1. Trey Francka - 11 - CCO - 321A
2. Bryce Morgan - 11 - ELD - 4A
3. Jase Stone - 11 - MH - 6A
4. Adam Cole - 9 - CH - 4A
5. Sean DeShazer - 9 - WH - 6A
6. Tristan Star - 9 - LAW - 6A
7. Dakota Leach - 11 - GD - 5A
8. Parker Howell - 10 - KMC - 5A
9. Luke Henes - 10 - STA - 5A
10. Josh Goepfert - 11 - MRV - 321A

113:
1. Zac Gentzler - 11 - AC - 5A
2. Jason Perez - 12 - ULY - 4A
3. Anthony Calderon - 12 - GC - 6A
4. Kevin Perez - 11 - JC - 6A
5. Tyler Mies - 10 - AN - 4A
6. Jr. Morgan - 11 - AB - 4A
7. Hunter Price - 11 - HOL - 4A
8. Alex Garcia - 12 - DC - 6A
9. John Risewick - 11 - NOR - 321A
10. Reese Cokeley - 10 - SJA - 4A

120:
1. Javier Vieyra - 12 - SS - 5A
2. Isaac Dulgarian - 9 - STA - 5A
3. Dustin Reed - 11 - CLB - 4A
4. Chris Burley - 11 - GB - 5A
5. Quinton Harrison - 11 - NEW - 5A
6. Ty Kolterman - 12 - CC - 4A
7. Zak Hensley - 9 - SJA - 4A
8. Corey Spader - 11 - SPH - 4A
9. Brad Hake - 12 - CON - 4A
10. Kevin Arnhold - 12 - HAY - 5A

126:
1. Michael Olsen - 10 - LS - 5A
2. Austin Hood - 12 - LOU - 4A
3. Dylan Schumacher - 12 - TMP - 321A
4. Colby Watters - 12 - ARK - 5A
5. Tim Prescott - 12 - MCP - 4A
6. Bryce Shoemaker - 11 - BAL - 4A
7. Hunter Haralson - 11 - LAW - 6A
8. Lukas Maki - 11 - KMC - 5A
9. Alex Wolf - 12 - SV - 4A
10. Taelor Mendenhall - 12 - CON - 4A

132:
1. Bo Pursel - 12 - LS - 5A
2. TJ Stokes - 12 - GE - 6A
3. Brogan Humphrey - 10 - FRE - 321A
4. Cody Eastman - 11 - ARK - 5A
5. Clay Mulligan - 12 - SC - 321A
6. Ben Randolph - 12 - SME - 6A
7. Austin Hughey - 11 - ELD - 4A
8. Andrew Morgan - 12 - BAL - 4A
9. Shane Goetz - 12 - HUT - 6A
10. Luke Lee - 12 - AC - 5A

138:
1. Konnor Kriss - 12 - CLB - 4A
2. Miles Johns - 12 - NEW - 5A
3. Brandon Charbonneau - 12 - EMP - 5A
4. Tommy Williams - 12 - STA - 5A
5. Reis Humphrey - 11 - SMS - 6A
6. Brady Heincker - 12 - DB - 6A
7. Andrew Millsap - 10 - JC - 6A
8. Wyatt Villers - 11 - ARK - 5A
9. Jake Gehring - 11 - BUH - 4A
10. Jared Fiscus - 11 - CH - 4A

145:
1. Tagen Lambotte - 10 - ROS - 321A
2. Jonathan Blackwell - 11 - BS - 4A
3. Aaron Seybold - 12 - PT - 4A
4. Dustin Williams - 10 - GE - 6A
5. Calvin Ochs - 11 - HOX - 321A
6. Chase Locke - 12 - MZ - 6A
7. Lincoln Lemon - 12 - GD - 5A
8. Ben Becker - 12 - DB - 6A
9. Alex Thibault - 11 - HAL - 321A
10. Devon Dozier - 11 - OZ - 4A

152:
1. Connor Middleton - 12 - ONW - 6A
2. Alex Bontz - 12 - AC - 5A
3. Trey Dice - 12 - ARK - 5A
4. Rusty Yarrow - 12 - CC - 4A
5. Ky Biddle - 12 - CB - 321A
6. Mark Hobson - 12 - BS - 4A
7. Andrew Denning - 11 - LAW - 6A
8. Dalton Snyder - 12 - HOX - 321A
9. Trevor Cox - 12 - MZ - 6A
10t. Mark Smith - 12 - ROS - 321A
10t. Patrick Weaver - 11 - HUG - 4A

160:
1. Sam Son - 12 - CH - 4A
2. Colton Duhr - 12 - AN - 4A
3. Tyler McMichael - 12 - ARK - 5A
4. Gavin Grater - 10 - CC - 4A
5. Rory Haug - 12 - ON - 6A
6. Jacob Eggers - 12 - DC - 6A
7. Bryant Guillen - 11 - SEA - 5A
8. Aaron Puckett - 11 - BS - 4A
9. Blake Hill - 12 - SME - 6A
10. Jon Heiman - 12 - GC - 6A

170:
1. Matt Reed - 12 - WH - 6A
2. Blaine Hill - 12 - SME - 6A
3. Levi Eck - 11 - AN - 4A
4. Preston Wiegel - 10 - HAY - 5A
5. Kane Kelly - 12 - AB - 4A
6. Brent Koehn - 12 - PT - 4A
7. Tyler Willis - 12 - SH - 5A
8. Jake Bradley - 11 - PV - 4A
9. Jesse LeMay - 12 - WEL - 321A
10. Brian Wood - 12 - MH - 6A

182:
1. Reece Wright-Conklin - 12 - LAW - 6A
2. Brock Long - 12 - SES - 321A
3. Spencer Wilson - 11 - LFS - 6A
4. Tyler Lowe - 12 - EUR - 321A
5. Tyler Higgins - 12 - IKE - 5A
6. Hunter Weddington - 12 - AND - 5A
7. Nick Meck - 11 - SH - 5A
8. Hugh McConnell - 12 - NEW - 5A
9. Trey Campbell - 12 - MH - 6A
10. Tyler Henness - 12 - PAO - 4A

195:
1. Shawn Marlatt - 12 - DB - 6A
2. Ulyesses DeShazer - 12 - WH - 6A
3. Colt Castlebury - 12 - DOU - 321A
4. Darien Willis - 12 - SUM - 4A
5. Ty Suggs - 12 - MH - 6A
6. Alex Stockton - 12 - GE - 6A
7. Litton VanDerWerff - 12 - LS - 5A
8. Dillon Archer - 11 - NEW - 5A
9. Brady Munsch - 12 - SS - 5A
10. Nate Stanley - 11 - SEA - 5A

220:
1. Luke Bean - 12 - KMC - 5A
2. Nathan Butler - 11 - LV - 6A
3. Colten Lissolo - 12 - HUG - 4A
4. Cash Drylie - 12 - HAY - 5A
5. Edward Fitzgerald - 12 - SFT - 4A
6. Jordan Brown - 12 - CON - 4A
7. Tyler Keller - 12 - WNW - 6A
8. Brad Wilson - 12 - LAW - 6A
9. Myron Tipton - 12 - OE - 6A
10. Riley Oharah - 12 - GDL - 321A

285:
1. Will Geary - 11 - TOP - 6A
2. Eric Mason - 12 - STA - 5A
3. Tylor Woodruff - 12 - GD - 5A
4. Luke Hayes - 12 - SC - 321A
5. Clay Wilcox - 11 - CHP - 321A
6. Zach Callahan - 12 - MV - 5A
7. Taylor Krier - 12 - MCP - 4A
8. Broc Bennett - 12 - PT - 4A
9. Jacob English - 12 - BEL - 321A
10. Hayden Chandler - 12 - DS - 4A

Posted By: BrandonPigorsch

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 11/14/11 06:03 PM

Did Weaver at 152 transfer to Buhler or does he still go to Hugoton?
Posted By: Chief Renegade

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 11/15/11 11:37 AM

Originally Posted By: BrandonPigorsch
Did Weaver at 152 transfer to Buhler or does he still go to Hugoton?


He is still at Hugoton.
Posted By: Chief Renegade

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 11/18/11 03:51 PM

PRE-SEASON RANKING!

CHANGES O'PLENTY


TEAM RANKINGS:

1. Andale - 4A
2. Arkansas City - 5A
3. Lawrence - 6A
4. Andover Central - 5A
5. Wichita Heights - 6A
6. St. Thomas Aquinas - 5A
7. Garden City - 6A
8. Pittsburg - 4A
9. Newton - 5A
10. Bonner Springs - 4A


106:
1. Trey Francka - 11 - CCO - 321A
2. Reese Cokeley - 10 - SJA - 4A
3. Bryce Morgan - 11 - ELD - 4A
4. Jase Stone - 11 - MH - 6A
5. Adam Cole - 9 - CH - 4A
6. Sean DeShazer - 9 - WH - 6A
7. Tristan Star - 9 - LAW - 6A
8. Dakota Leach - 11 - GD - 5A
9. Parker Howell - 10 - KMC - 5A
10. Luke Henes - 10 - STA - 5A

113:
1. Zac Gentzler - 11 - AC - 5A
2. Jason Perez - 12 - ULY - 4A
3. Anthony Calderon - 12 - GC - 6A
4. Kevin Perez - 11 - JC - 6A
5. Zak Hensley - 9 - SJA - 4A
6. Tyler Mies - 10 - AN - 4A
7. Jr. Morgan - 11 - AB - 4A
8. Hunter Price - 11 - HOL - 4A
9. Alex Garcia - 12 - DC - 6A
10. John Risewick - 11 - NOR - 321A

120:
1. Javier Vieyra - 12 - SS - 5A
2. Isaac Dulgarian - 9 - STA - 5A
3. Dustin Reed - 11 - CLB - 4A
4. Tim Prescott - 12 - MCP - 4A
5. Chris Burley - 11 - GB - 5A
6. Quinton Harrison - 11 - NEW - 5A
7. Ty Kolterman - 12 - CC - 4A
8. Corey Spader - 11 - SPH - 4A
9. Clayton Himple - 10 - TG - 4A
10. Brad Hake - 12 - CON - 4A

126:
1. Michael Olsen - 10 - LS - 5A
2. Austin Hood - 12 - LOU - 4A
3. Dylan Schumacher - 12 - TMP - 321A
4. TJ Stokes - 12 - GE - 6A
5. Colby Watters - 12 - ARK - 5A
6. Bryce Shoemaker - 11 - BAL - 4A
7. Hunter Haralson - 11 - LAW - 6A
8. Lukas Maki - 11 - KMC - 5A
9. Alex Wolf - 12 - SV - 4A
10. Taelor Mendenhall - 12 - CON - 4A

132:
1. Bo Pursel - 12 - LS - 5A
2. Brogan Humphrey - 10 - FRE - 321A
3. Cody Eastman - 11 - ARK - 5A
4. Clay Mulligan - 12 - SC - 321A
5. Ben Randolph - 12 - SME - 6A
6. Austin Hughey - 11 - ELD - 4A
7. Andrew Morgan - 12 - BAL - 4A
8. Shane Goetz - 12 - HUT - 6A
9. Luke Lee - 12 - AC - 5A
10. Riley Soward - 12 - HAL - 321A

138:
1. Konnor Kriss - 12 - CLB - 4A
2. Miles Johns - 12 - NEW - 5A
3. Brandon Charbonneau - 12 - EMP - 5A
4. Tommy Williams - 12 - STA - 5A
5. Reis Humphrey - 11 - SMS - 6A
6. Brady Heincker - 12 - DB - 6A
7. Andrew Millsap - 10 - JC - 6A
8. Wyatt Villers - 11 - ARK - 5A
9. Jake Gehring - 11 - BUH - 4A
10. Jared Fiscus - 11 - CH - 4A

145:
1. Tagen Lambotte - 10 - ROS - 321A
2. Jonathan Blackwell - 11 - BS - 4A
3. Aaron Seybold - 12 - PT - 4A
4. Dustin Williams - 10 - GE - 6A
5. Calvin Ochs - 11 - HOX - 321A
6. Chase Locke - 12 - MZ - 6A
7. Lincoln Lemon - 12 - GD - 5A
8. Ben Becker - 12 - DB - 6A
9. Alex Thibault - 11 - HAL - 321A
10. Devon Dozier - 11 - OZ - 4A

152:
1. Connor Middleton - 12 - ONW - 6A
2. Alex Bontz - 12 - AC - 5A
3. Trey Dice - 12 - ARK - 5A
4. Rusty Yarrow - 12 - CC - 4A
5. Ky Biddle - 12 - CB - 321A
6. Mark Hobson - 12 - BS - 4A
7. Andrew Denning - 11 - LAW - 6A
8. Dalton Snyder - 12 - HOX - 321A
9. Trevor Cox - 12 - MZ - 6A
10t. Mark Smith - 12 - ROS - 321A
10t. Patrick Weaver - 11 - HUG - 4A

160:
1. Sam Son - 12 - CH - 4A
2. Colton Duhr - 12 - AN - 4A
3. Tyler McMichael - 12 - ARK - 5A
4. Gavin Grater - 10 - CC - 4A
5. Rory Haug - 12 - ON - 6A
6. Bryant Guillen - 11 - SEA - 5A
7. Tyler Willis - 12 - SH - 5A
8. Jacob Eggers - 12 - DC - 6A
9. Aaron Puckett - 11 - BS - 4A
10. Blake Hill - 12 - SME - 6A

170:
1. Matt Reed - 12 - WH - 6A
2. Blaine Hill - 12 - SME - 6A
3. Levi Eck - 11 - AN - 4A
4. Preston Wiegel - 10 - HAY - 5A
5. Kane Kelly - 12 - AB - 4A
6. Brent Koehn - 12 - PT - 4A
7. Jake Bradley - 11 - PV - 4A
8. Jesse LeMay - 12 - WEL - 321A
9. Brian Wood - 12 - MH - 6A
10. Tanner Gardner - 12 - CLW - 4A

182:
1. Reece Wright-Conklin - 12 - LAW - 6A
2. Brock Long - 12 - SES - 321A
3. Spencer Wilson - 11 - LFS - 6A
4. Tyler Lowe - 12 - EUR - 321A
5. Tyler Higgins - 12 - IKE - 5A
6. Hunter Weddington - 12 - AND - 5A
7. Nick Meck - 11 - SH - 5A
8. Brady Munsch - 12 - SS - 5A
9. Hugh McConnell - 12 - NEW - 5A
10. Trey Campbell - 12 - MH - 6A

195:
1. Shawn Marlatt - 12 - DB - 6A
2. Ulyesses DeShazer - 12 - WH - 6A
3. Colt Castlebury - 12 - DOU - 321A
4. Darien Willis - 12 - SUM - 4A
5. Taylor Krier - 12 - MCP - 4A
6. Ty Suggs - 12 - MH - 6A
7. Alex Stockton - 12 - GE - 6A
8. Litton VanDerWerff - 12 - LS - 5A
9. Dillon Archer - 11 - NEW - 5A
10. Nate Stanley - 11 - SEA - 5A

220:
1. Luke Bean - 12 - KMC - 5A
2. Nathan Butler - 11 - LV - 6A
3. Colten Lissolo - 12 - HUG - 4A
4. Cash Drylie - 12 - HAY - 5A
5. Edward Fitzgerald - 12 - SFT - 4A
6. Jordan Brown - 12 - CON - 4A
7. Tyler Keller - 12 - WNW - 6A
8. Brad Wilson - 12 - LAW - 6A
9. Myron Tipton - 12 - OE - 6A
10. Riley Oharah - 12 - GDL - 321A

285:
1. Will Geary - 11 - TOP - 6A
2. Eric Mason - 12 - STA - 5A
3. Tylor Woodruff - 12 - GD - 5A
4. Luke Hayes - 12 - SC - 321A
5. Clay Wilcox - 11 - CHP - 321A
6. Zach Callahan - 12 - MV - 5A
7. Broc Bennett - 12 - PT - 4A
8. Jacob English - 12 - BEL - 321A
9. Hayden Chandler - 12 - DS - 4A
10. Joe Pomatto - 11 - PAO - 4A
Posted By: back in the day

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 11/18/11 05:11 PM

Biggest changes I see is that WH moved up two wrestlers.

Reed going up to 170 (most folk thought he would not make 160) and Ulyesses DeShazer moves UP to 195.


And Stokes moves down to 126. Interesting
Posted By: bug

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 11/20/11 06:55 PM

Any word on Dallas Vesta?
Posted By: cicici

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 11/21/11 01:37 AM

106:
1. Trey Francka - 11 - CCO - 321A
2. Reese Cokeley - 10 - SJA - 4A
3. Bryce Morgan - 11 - ELD - 4A
4. Jase Stone - 11 - MH - 6A
5. Adam Cole - 9 - CH - 4A
6. Sean DeShazer - 9 - WH - 6A
7. Tristan Star - 9 - LAW - 6A
8. Dakota Leach - 11 - GD - 5A
9. Parker Howell - 10 - KMC - 5A
10. Luke Henes - 10 - STA - 5A


Nothing against anyone but Reese Cokeley going to number 2?
Howell returning placer, Morgan returning placer, and Star beat Howell at Brawl. Fill me in please.
Posted By: XGHSWC

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 11/21/11 02:57 AM

Originally Posted By: back in the day
And Stokes moves down to 126. Interesting

I can't imagine why Stokes would go to 126 unless he just wants to take on Gilman because everyone was talking crap on him over that. I say go for it and good luck.
Also I can't understand why he was 2nd at 132 and now he is 4th at 126. I know that 126 is tough, maybe tougher but come on. I think that Stokes or probably even Schumacher should be #1. I know that this Olsen kid is legit but I am not prepared to proclaim him #1 over these Kansas studs or even Watters for that matter. I know he beat Hood but he hasn't beaten the others. And maybe Hood was just out of shape or sink because it was before the season. Schumacher is a three timer and the only reason Watters isn't a three timer is Pursel, Smith and Gentzler. Like I said, Olsen is totally legit and maybe he will prove Chief right but I would really like to see him prove it on the mat during the season and not just be anointed over the Kansas elite before the season even starts.

Originally Posted By: cicici
106:
1. Trey Francka - 11 - CCO - 321A
2. Reese Cokeley - 10 - SJA - 4A
3. Bryce Morgan - 11 - ELD - 4A
4. Jase Stone - 11 - MH - 6A
5. Adam Cole - 9 - CH - 4A
6. Sean DeShazer - 9 - WH - 6A
7. Tristan Star - 9 - LAW - 6A
8. Dakota Leach - 11 - GD - 5A
9. Parker Howell - 10 - KMC - 5
10. Luke Henes - 10 - STA - 5A


Nothing against anyone but Reese Cokeley going to number 2?
Howell returning placer, Morgan returning placer, and Star beat Howell at Brawl. Fill me in please.

As for 106, I really don't see a problem with Cokeley being #2. He did wrestle this summer and fall and just got done with the Monster Match and Big Horn. He is obviously primed and ready to stake his claim for the top spot.
But my personal opinion is that my Home Dog Dakota Leach should be #2 or #3 behind Cokeley. I can't see how anyone else other than Francka and maybe Cokeley should be ahead of him. I hope I don't jinx him and I am sure he will prove me right.
Posted By: Bender

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 11/21/11 04:58 AM

From what I have heard, Reese Cokeley has been working real hard this summer. Just had a solid tourney at Cliff Keen where he probably did not end (6th) as well as he wanted but making the semifinals at any national tournament is a noticeable achievement. This is by no means an off-year for st james. With all class Cokeley and Hensley, Trent Salsbury is primed and ready to place, Logan Fortney has been in the shadows and now is ready to win at varsity, Andrew Tujague, Andy Muehlberger, and Darin Feist will be tough competitors this year too
Posted By: Chief Renegade

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 11/21/11 12:38 PM

Originally Posted By: cicici
106:
1. Trey Francka - 11 - CCO - 321A
2. Reese Cokeley - 10 - SJA - 4A
3. Bryce Morgan - 11 - ELD - 4A
4. Jase Stone - 11 - MH - 6A
5. Adam Cole - 9 - CH - 4A
6. Sean DeShazer - 9 - WH - 6A
7. Tristan Star - 9 - LAW - 6A
8. Dakota Leach - 11 - GD - 5A
9. Parker Howell - 10 - KMC - 5A
10. Luke Henes - 10 - STA - 5A


Nothing against anyone but Reese Cokeley going to number 2?
Howell returning placer, Morgan returning placer, and Star beat Howell at Brawl. Fill me in please.


Cokeley has head-to-head criteria over #3 Morgan and #4 Stone.
Posted By: Chief Renegade

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 11/21/11 12:58 PM

Originally Posted By: XGHSWC
I can't imagine why Stokes would go to 126 unless he just wants to take on Gilman because everyone was talking crap on him over that. I say go for it and good luck.
Also I can't understand why he was 2nd at 132 and now he is 4th at 126. I know that 126 is tough, maybe tougher but come on. I think that Stokes or probably even Schumacher should be #1. I know that this Olsen kid is legit but I am not prepared to proclaim him #1 over these Kansas studs or even Watters for that matter. I know he beat Hood but he hasn't beaten the others. And maybe Hood was just out of shape or sink because it was before the season. Schumacher is a three timer and the only reason Watters isn't a three timer is Pursel, Smith and Gentzler. Like I said, Olsen is totally legit and maybe he will prove Chief right but I would really like to see him prove it on the mat during the season and not just be anointed over the Kansas elite before the season even starts.


I was told that TJ is walking around at about 134. 126 is his correct fighting weight. As for the 126/132 comparison, 132 is light years tougher as a whole. TJ's size at that weight will be a load for those guys but I am convinced that Olsen is legit. I cannot minimize his win over Hood and his quality wins at the national level.


Originally Posted By: XGHSWC

But my personal opinion is that my Home Dog Dakota Leach should be #2 or #3 behind Cokeley.


I expect a big season from Dakota!
Posted By: lazyman_1

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 11/21/11 01:53 PM

Lot's of kids work hard. Working hard is great but where are the results?

Other kids work just as hard!
Posted By: Chief Renegade

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 11/21/11 05:16 PM

Originally Posted By: lazyman_1
Lot's of kids work hard. Working hard is great but where are the results?

Other kids work just as hard!


Results:

-Reese Cokeley STJAMES--------+ | | |
(9) 39- 10 Bout: 6 |-Reese Cokeley STJAMES--------+ | |
-Bryce Morgan ELDORADO--------+ Dec 7-5
Posted By: bigwillyxl

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 11/21/11 05:26 PM

TJ will be fine at either weight but his team will be stronger with him at 126.
Posted By: XGHSWC

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 11/21/11 06:26 PM

Originally Posted By: Chief Renegade
Originally Posted By: XGHSWC
I can't imagine why Stokes would go to 126 unless he just wants to take on Gilman because everyone was talking crap on him over that. I say go for it and good luck.
Also I can't understand why he was 2nd at 132 and now he is 4th at 126. I know that 126 is tough, maybe tougher but come on. I think that Stokes or probably even Schumacher should be #1. I know that this Olsen kid is legit but I am not prepared to proclaim him #1 over these Kansas studs or even Watters for that matter. I know he beat Hood but he hasn't beaten the others. And maybe Hood was just out of shape or sink because it was before the season. Schumacher is a three timer and the only reason Watters isn't a three timer is Pursel, Smith and Gentzler. Like I said, Olsen is totally legit and maybe he will prove Chief right but I would really like to see him prove it on the mat during the season and not just be anointed over the Kansas elite before the season even starts.


I was told that TJ is walking around at about 134. 126 is his correct fighting weight. As for the 126/132 comparison, 132 is light years tougher as a whole. TJ's size at that weight will be a load for those guys but I am convinced that Olsen is legit. I cannot minimize his win over Hood and his quality wins at the national level.


Originally Posted By: XGHSWC

But my personal opinion is that my Home Dog Dakota Leach should be #2 or #3 behind Cokeley.


I expect a big season from Dakota!



10-4 to all that Chief but still think that Stokes should be ahead of Olsen and probably even Schumacher should be ahead of Olsen and maybe even Watters should be, at least for now anyway. But we will see.
So 132 is tougher as you say overall but apparently the top 3 are tougher at 126 because Stokes was #2 at 132 and now he is #4 at 126. Just don't see why Stokes would go 126 when he can win it at 132. I guess he wants a piece of Olsen as well as Gilman. Or Stokes thinks Wrestling is a team sport or at least someone convinced him that it was smile , and that will make his team stronger if he goes to 126 as bigwillyxl said. Hope nobody gets snake bit on that deal.

As for 106, Dakota should still be no less than #5. He lost to Stone 2-1 at state but was lunk headed. He beat him 6-2 in the dual. No way the others should be ahead of him. But we will see.
Posted By: chucky

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 11/21/11 07:08 PM

Olsen is too technically advanced for anyone in that weight class, of any of the kids there, i would have said that hood had the best shot at him.
Posted By: insidetie

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 11/21/11 07:24 PM

I like the Tebow commercial about how people always told him he could not do stuff. TJ is along those same lines. We will see how everything shakes out once actual matches start. My guess is you will be suprised.
Posted By: Tommyboy

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 11/21/11 07:24 PM

I am sure Olsen and Bryce Shoemaker have wrestled 100 times against each other in the past at Park Hill, Mo. I am almost certain it would be one or two points either way.

Dan Gentzler - Andover Central
Posted By: Chief Renegade

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 11/21/11 07:43 PM

PRE-SEASON RANKING!

CHANGES at 106/132/138/170


TEAM RANKINGS:

1. Andale - 4A
2. Arkansas City - 5A
3. Lawrence - 6A
4. Andover Central - 5A
5. Wichita Heights - 6A
6. St. Thomas Aquinas - 5A
7. Garden City - 6A
8. Pittsburg - 4A
9. Newton - 5A
10. Bonner Springs - 4A


106:
1. Trey Francka - 11 - CCO - 321A
2. Reese Cokeley - 10 - SJA - 4A
3. Bryce Morgan - 11 - ELD - 4A
4. Jase Stone - 11 - MH - 6A
5. Dakota Leach - 11 - GD - 5A
6. Adam Cole - 9 - CH - 4A
7. Sean DeShazer - 9 - WH - 6A
8. Tristan Star - 9 - LAW - 6A
9. Parker Howell - 10 - KMC - 5A
10. Luke Henes - 10 - STA - 5A

113:
1. Zac Gentzler - 11 - AC - 5A
2. Jason Perez - 12 - ULY - 4A
3. Anthony Calderon - 12 - GC - 6A
4. Kevin Perez - 11 - JC - 6A
5. Zak Hensley - 9 - SJA - 4A
6. Tyler Mies - 10 - AN - 4A
7. Jr. Morgan - 11 - AB - 4A
8. Hunter Price - 11 - HOL - 4A
9. Alex Garcia - 12 - DC - 6A
10. John Risewick - 11 - NOR - 321A

120:
1. Javier Vieyra - 12 - SS - 5A
2. Isaac Dulgarian - 9 - STA - 5A
3. Dustin Reed - 11 - CLB - 4A
4. Tim Prescott - 12 - MCP - 4A
5. Chris Burley - 11 - GB - 5A
6. Quinton Harrison - 11 - NEW - 5A
7. Ty Kolterman - 12 - CC - 4A
8. Corey Spader - 11 - SPH - 4A
9. Clayton Himple - 10 - TG - 4A
10. Brad Hake - 12 - CON - 4A

126:
1. Michael Olsen - 10 - LS - 5A
2. Austin Hood - 12 - LOU - 4A
3. Dylan Schumacher - 12 - TMP - 321A
4. TJ Stokes - 12 - GE - 6A
5. Colby Watters - 12 - ARK - 5A
6. Bryce Shoemaker - 11 - BAL - 4A
7. Hunter Haralson - 11 - LAW - 6A
8. Lukas Maki - 11 - KMC - 5A
9. Alex Wolf - 12 - SV - 4A
10. Taelor Mendenhall - 12 - CON - 4A

132:
1. Bo Pursel - 12 - LS - 5A
2. Cody Eastman - 11 - ARK - 5A
3. Clay Mulligan - 12 - SC - 321A
4. Ben Randolph - 12 - SME - 6A
5. Austin Hughey - 11 - ELD - 4A
6. Jacob Durosette - 10 - FS - 4A
7. Andrew Morgan - 12 - BAL - 4A
8. Shane Goetz - 12 - HUT - 6A
9. Luke Lee - 12 - AC - 5A
10. Riley Soward - 12 - HAL - 321A

138:
1. Konnor Kriss - 12 - CLB - 4A
2. Miles Johns - 12 - NEW - 5A
3. Brandon Charbonneau - 12 - EMP - 5A
4. Brogan Humphrey - 10 - FRE - 321A
5. Tommy Williams - 12 - STA - 5A
6. Reis Humphrey - 11 - SMS - 6A
7. Brady Heincker - 12 - DB - 6A
8. Andrew Milsap - 10 - JC - 6A
9. Wyatt Villers - 11 - ARK - 5A
10. Jake Gehring - 11 - BUH - 4A

145:
1. Tagen Lambotte - 10 - ROS - 321A
2. Jonathan Blackwell - 11 - BS - 4A
3. Aaron Seybold - 12 - PT - 4A
4. Dustin Williams - 10 - GE - 6A
5. Calvin Ochs - 11 - HOX - 321A
6. Chase Locke - 12 - MZ - 6A
7. Lincoln Lemon - 12 - GD - 5A
8. Ben Becker - 12 - DB - 6A
9. Alex Thibault - 11 - HAL - 321A
10. Devon Dozier - 11 - OZ - 4A

152:
1. Connor Middleton - 12 - ONW - 6A
2. Alex Bontz - 12 - AC - 5A
3. Trey Dice - 12 - ARK - 5A
4. Rusty Yarrow - 12 - CC - 4A
5. Ky Biddle - 12 - CB - 321A
6. Mark Hobson - 12 - BS - 4A
7. Andrew Denning - 11 - LAW - 6A
8. Dalton Snyder - 12 - HOX - 321A
9. Trevor Cox - 12 - MZ - 6A
10t. Mark Smith - 12 - ROS - 321A
10t. Patrick Weaver - 11 - HUG - 4A

160:
1. Sam Son - 12 - CH - 4A
2. Colton Duhr - 12 - AN - 4A
3. Tyler McMichael - 12 - ARK - 5A
4. Gavin Grater - 10 - CC - 4A
5. Rory Haug - 12 - ON - 6A
6. Bryant Guillen - 11 - SEA - 5A
7. Tyler Willis - 12 - SH - 5A
8. Jacob Eggers - 12 - DC - 6A
9. Aaron Puckett - 11 - BS - 4A
10. Blake Hill - 12 - SME - 6A

170:
1. Matt Reed - 12 - WH - 6A
2. Blaine Hill - 12 - SME - 6A
3. Levi Eck - 11 - AN - 4A
4. Preston Wiegel - 10 - HAY - 5A
5. Kane Kelly - 12 - AB - 4A
6. Brent Koehn - 12 - PT - 4A
7. Jake Bradley - 11 - PV - 4A
8. Nick Pursel - 12 - LAW - 6A
9. Jesse LeMay - 12 - WEL - 321A
10. Brian Wood - 12 - MH - 6A

182:
1. Reece Wright-Conklin - 12 - LAW - 6A
2. Brock Long - 12 - SES - 321A
3. Spencer Wilson - 11 - LFS - 6A
4. Tyler Lowe - 12 - EUR - 321A
5. Tyler Higgins - 12 - IKE - 5A
6. Hunter Weddington - 12 - AND - 5A
7. Nick Meck - 11 - SH - 5A
8. Brady Munsch - 12 - SS - 5A
9. Hugh McConnell - 12 - NEW - 5A
10. Trey Campbell - 12 - MH - 6A

195:
1. Shawn Marlatt - 12 - DB - 6A
2. Ulyesses DeShazer - 12 - WH - 6A
3. Colt Castlebury - 12 - DOU - 321A
4. Darien Willis - 12 - SUM - 4A
5. Taylor Krier - 12 - MCP - 4A
6. Ty Suggs - 12 - MH - 6A
7. Alex Stockton - 12 - GE - 6A
8. Litton VanDerWerff - 12 - LS - 5A
9. Dillon Archer - 11 - NEW - 5A
10. Nate Stanley - 11 - SEA - 5A

220:
1. Luke Bean - 12 - KMC - 5A
2. Nathan Butler - 11 - LV - 6A
3. Colten Lissolo - 12 - HUG - 4A
4. Cash Drylie - 12 - HAY - 5A
5. Edward Fitzgerald - 12 - SFT - 4A
6. Jordan Brown - 12 - CON - 4A
7. Tyler Keller - 12 - WNW - 6A
8. Brad Wilson - 12 - LAW - 6A
9. Myron Tipton - 12 - OE - 6A
10. Riley Oharah - 12 - GDL - 321A

285:
1. Will Geary - 11 - TOP - 6A
2. Eric Mason - 12 - STA - 5A
3. Tylor Woodruff - 12 - GD - 5A
4. Luke Hayes - 12 - SC - 321A
5. Clay Wilcox - 11 - CHP - 321A
6. Zach Callahan - 12 - MV - 5A
7. Broc Bennett - 12 - PT - 4A
8. Jacob English - 12 - BEL - 321A
9. Hayden Chandler - 12 - DS - 4A
10. Joe Pomatto - 11 - PAO - 4A

Posted By: Chief Renegade

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 11/28/11 04:45 PM

PRE-SEASON RANKING!

CHANGES at 138/145/220


TEAM RANKINGS:

1. Andale - 4A
2. Arkansas City - 5A
3. Lawrence - 6A
4. Andover Central - 5A
5. Wichita Heights - 6A
6. St. Thomas Aquinas - 5A
7. Garden City - 6A
8. Pittsburg - 4A
9. Newton - 5A
10. Bonner Springs - 4A


106:
1. Trey Francka - 11 - CCO - 321A
2. Reese Cokeley - 10 - SJA - 4A
3. Bryce Morgan - 11 - ELD - 4A
4. Jase Stone - 11 - MH - 6A
5. Dakota Leach - 11 - GD - 5A
6. Adam Cole - 9 - CH - 4A
7. Sean DeShazer - 9 - WH - 6A
8. Tristan Star - 9 - LAW - 6A
9. Parker Howell - 10 - KMC - 5A
10. Luke Henes - 10 - STA - 5A

113:
1. Zac Gentzler - 11 - AC - 5A
2. Jason Perez - 12 - ULY - 4A
3. Anthony Calderon - 12 - GC - 6A
4. Kevin Perez - 11 - JC - 6A
5. Zak Hensley - 9 - SJA - 4A
6. Tyler Mies - 10 - AN - 4A
7. Jr. Morgan - 11 - AB - 4A
8. Hunter Price - 11 - HOL - 4A
9. Alex Garcia - 12 - DC - 6A
10. John Risewick - 11 - NOR - 321A

120:
1. Javier Vieyra - 12 - SS - 5A
2. Isaac Dulgarian - 9 - STA - 5A
3. Dustin Reed - 11 - CLB - 4A
4. Tim Prescott - 12 - MCP - 4A
5. Chris Burley - 11 - GB - 5A
6. Quinton Harrison - 11 - NEW - 5A
7. Ty Kolterman - 12 - CC - 4A
8. Corey Spader - 11 - SPH - 4A
9. Clayton Himple - 10 - TG - 4A
10. Brad Hake - 12 - CON - 4A

126:
1. Michael Olsen - 10 - LS - 5A
2. Austin Hood - 12 - LOU - 4A
3. Dylan Schumacher - 12 - TMP - 321A
4. TJ Stokes - 12 - GE - 6A
5. Colby Watters - 12 - ARK - 5A
6. Bryce Shoemaker - 11 - BAL - 4A
7. Hunter Haralson - 11 - LAW - 6A
8. Lukas Maki - 11 - KMC - 5A
9. Alex Wolf - 12 - SV - 4A
10. Taelor Mendenhall - 12 - CON - 4A

132:
1. Bo Pursel - 12 - LS - 5A
2. Cody Eastman - 11 - ARK - 5A
3. Clay Mulligan - 12 - SC - 321A
4. Ben Randolph - 12 - SME - 6A
5. Austin Hughey - 11 - ELD - 4A
6. Jacob Durosette - 10 - FS - 4A
7. Andrew Morgan - 12 - BAL - 4A
8. Shane Goetz - 12 - HUT - 6A
9. Luke Lee - 12 - AC - 5A
10. Riley Soward - 12 - HAL - 321A

138:
1. Konnor Kriss - 12 - CLB - 4A
2. Brandon Charbonneau - 12 - EMP - 5A
3. Brogan Humphrey - 10 - FRE - 321A
4. Tommy Williams - 12 - STA - 5A
5. Calvin Ochs - 11 - HOX - 321A
6. Reis Humphrey - 11 - SMS - 6A
7. Brady Heincker - 12 - DB - 6A
8. Andrew Milsap - 10 - JC - 6A
9. Wyatt Villers - 11 - ARK - 5A
10. Jake Gehring - 11 - BUH - 4A

145:
1. Tagen Lambotte - 10 - ROS - 321A
2. Jonathan Blackwell - 11 - BS - 4A
3. Aaron Seybold - 12 - PT - 4A
4. Dustin Williams - 10 - GE - 6A
5. Miles Johns - 12 - NEW - 5A
6. Chase Locke - 12 - MZ - 6A
7. Lincoln Lemon - 12 - GD - 5A
8. Ben Becker - 12 - DB - 6A
9. Alex Thibault - 11 - HAL - 321A
10. Devon Dozier - 11 - OZ - 4A

152:
1. Connor Middleton - 12 - ONW - 6A
2. Alex Bontz - 12 - AC - 5A
3. Trey Dice - 12 - ARK - 5A
4. Rusty Yarrow - 12 - CC - 4A
5. Ky Biddle - 12 - CB - 321A
6. Mark Hobson - 12 - BS - 4A
7. Andrew Denning - 11 - LAW - 6A
8. Dalton Snyder - 12 - HOX - 321A
9. Trevor Cox - 12 - MZ - 6A
10t. Mark Smith - 12 - ROS - 321A
10t. Patrick Weaver - 11 - HUG - 4A

160:
1. Sam Son - 12 - CH - 4A
2. Colton Duhr - 12 - AN - 4A
3. Tyler McMichael - 12 - ARK - 5A
4. Gavin Grater - 10 - CC - 4A
5. Rory Haug - 12 - ON - 6A
6. Bryant Guillen - 11 - SEA - 5A
7. Tyler Willis - 12 - SH - 5A
8. Jacob Eggers - 12 - DC - 6A
9. Aaron Puckett - 11 - BS - 4A
10. Blake Hill - 12 - SME - 6A

170:
1. Matt Reed - 12 - WH - 6A
2. Blaine Hill - 12 - SME - 6A
3. Levi Eck - 11 - AN - 4A
4. Preston Wiegel - 10 - HAY - 5A
5. Kane Kelly - 12 - AB - 4A
6. Brent Koehn - 12 - PT - 4A
7. Nick Pursel - 12 - LAW - 6A
8. Jesse LeMay - 12 - WEL - 321A
9. Brian Wood - 12 - MH - 6A
10. Tanner Gardner - 12 - CLW - 4A

182:
1. Reece Wright-Conklin - 12 - LAW - 6A
2. Brock Long - 12 - SES - 321A
3. Spencer Wilson - 11 - LFS - 6A
4. Tyler Lowe - 12 - EUR - 321A
5. Tyler Higgins - 12 - IKE - 5A
6. Hunter Weddington - 12 - AND - 5A
7. Nick Meck - 11 - SH - 5A
8. Brady Munsch - 12 - SS - 5A
9. Hugh McConnell - 12 - NEW - 5A
10. Jake Bradley - 11 - PV - 4A

195:
1. Shawn Marlatt - 12 - DB - 6A
2. Ulyesses DeShazer - 12 - WH - 6A
3. Colt Castlebury - 12 - DOU - 321A
4. Darien Willis - 12 - SUM - 4A
5. Taylor Krier - 12 - MCP - 4A
6. Ty Suggs - 12 - MH - 6A
7. Alex Stockton - 12 - GE - 6A
8. Litton VanDerWerff - 12 - LS - 5A
9. Dillon Archer - 11 - NEW - 5A
10. Nate Stanley - 11 - SEA - 5A

220:
1. Luke Bean - 12 - KMC - 5A
2. Nathan Butler - 11 - LV - 6A
3. Colten Lissolo - 12 - HUG - 4A
4. Cash Drylie - 12 - HAY - 5A
5. Edward Fitzgerald - 12 - SFT - 4A
6. Jordan Brown - 12 - CON - 4A
7. Tyler Keller - 12 - WNW - 6A
8. Colton Bonner - 12 - BAL - 4A
9. Brad Wilson - 12 - LAW - 6A
10. Myron Tipton - 12 - OE - 6A

285:
1. Will Geary - 11 - TOP - 6A
2. Eric Mason - 12 - STA - 5A
3. Tylor Woodruff - 12 - GD - 5A
4. Luke Hayes - 12 - SC - 321A
5. Clay Wilcox - 11 - CHP - 321A
6. Zach Callahan - 12 - MV - 5A
7. Broc Bennett - 12 - PT - 4A
8. Jacob English - 12 - BEL - 321A
9. Hayden Chandler - 12 - DS - 4A
10. Joe Pomatto - 11 - PAO - 4A


Posted By: Chief Renegade

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 11/29/11 05:23 PM

REMINDER!

After the State tournaments are completed and the final All-Class ranking is posted, I will be offering invitations (starting with the #1 ranked wrestler) to join two All-Class Dual teams for a trip to the mountains in Denver, CO!

We will compete in the Dual team tournament on March 16th and then compete in brackets at the Rocky Mountain Nationals Folkstyle tournament on March 17th and 18th.

Last season we took 29 of our best wrestlers to this event, including 17 state champions. We won the Dual team championship and put 6 wrestlers in the finals in the tournament! Our hope is to take the best wrestlers that our state has to offer on this trip.

Best wishes to ALL of our Kansas wrestlers this year!
Posted By: WillyM

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 12/04/11 01:21 AM

Just watched the Leavenworth Challanger. Hunter Haralson lawrence looked real touugh--beat Olson from Lansing 5 zip--always in charge. Thought Tyler Willis at 160 (Shawnee Heights) looked awfully good. Nathan Butler from LV is awesome--tall and rangey--can see him as a D1 linebacker at 260, or as a guard or tackle--off or def-at 310--lots of frame to grow. Bo Pursel is Bo Pursel--calm, cool, collectesd and piles up points---still looks like a 112 pounder. E. Mason, STA 285, is deceptive--doesnt look like much--just kicks a--.
Posted By: Chief Renegade

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 12/06/11 09:09 PM

I should have the All-Class update tomorrow! I turned in the 4A/5A/6A rankings to Kramer today.
Posted By: Chief Renegade

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 12/07/11 01:51 PM

TEAM RANKINGS:

1. Andale - 4A
2. Arkansas City - 5A
3. Lawrence - 6A
4. St. Thomas Aquinas - 5A
5. Andover Central - 5A
6. Derby - 6A
7. Garden City - 6A
8. Pittsburg - 4A
9. Newton - 5A
10. Bonner Springs - 4A


106:
1. Trey Francka - 11 - CCO - 321A
2. Reese Cokeley - 10 - SJA - 4A
3. Bryce Morgan - 11 - ELD - 4A
4. Dakota Leach - 11 - GD - 5A
5. Luke Henes - 10 - STA - 5A
6. Jace Stone - 11 - MH - 6A
7. Tristan Star - 9 - LAW - 6A
8. Parker Howell - 10 - KMC - 5A
9. Jake Goldenstein - 9 - AUG - 4A
10. Josh Goepfert - 11 - MRV - 321A


113:
1. Zac Gentzler - 11 - AC - 5A
2. Javier Vieyra - 12 - SS - 5A
3. Anthony Calderon - 12 - GC - 6A
4. Zak Hensley - 9 - SJA - 4A
5. Tyler Mies - 10 - AN - 4A
6. Jason Perez - 12 - ULY - 4A
7. Jr. Morgan - 11 - AB - 4A
8. Hunter Price - 11 - HOL - 4A
9. Alex Garcia - 12 - DC - 6A
10t. John Risewick - 11 - NOR - 321A
10t. PJ Cheney - 10 - TUR - 5A

120:
1. Isaac Dulgarian - 9 - STA - 5A
2. Dustin Reed - 11 - CLB - 4A
3. Tim Prescott - 12 - MCP - 4A
4. Chris Burley - 11 - GB - 5A
5. Quinton Harrison - 11 - NEW - 5A
6. Jared Suppes - 11 - DB - 6A
7. Ty Kolterman - 12 - CC - 4A
8. Corey Spader - 11 - SPH - 4A
9. Brad Hake - 12 - CON - 4A
10. Clayton Himple - 10 - TG - 4A

126:
1. Hunter Haralson - 11 - LAW - 6A
2. Michael Olsen - 10 - LS - 5A
3. Austin Hood - 12 - LOU - 4A
4. Dylan Schumacher - 12 - TMP - 321A
5. Bryce Shoemaker - 11 - BAL - 4A
6. TJ Stokes - 12 - GE - 6A
7. Colby Watters - 12 - ARK - 5A
8. Lukas Maki - 11 - KMC - 5A
9. Alex Wolf - 12 - SV - 4A
10. Taelor Mendenhall - 12 - CON - 4A

132:
1. Bo Pursel - 12 - LS - 5A
2. Cody Eastman - 11 - ARK - 5A
3. Clay Mulligan - 12 - SC - 321A
4. Austin Hughey - 11 - ELD - 4A
5. Jacob Durosette - 10 - FS - 4A
6. Ben Randolph - 12 - SME - 6A
7. Andrew Morgan - 12 - BAL - 4A
8. Shane Goetz - 12 - HUT - 6A
9. Luke Lee - 12 - AC - 5A
10. Riley Soward - 12 - HAL - 321A

138:
1. Konnor Kriss - 12 - CLB - 4A
2. Brandon Charbonneau - 12 - EMP - 5A
3. Brogan Humphrey - 10 - FRE - 321A
4. Tommy Williams - 12 - STA - 5A
5. Calvin Ochs - 11 - HOX - 321A
6. Reis Humphrey - 11 - SMS - 6A
7. Brady Heincker - 12 - DB - 6A
8. Andrew Milsap - 10 - JC - 6A
9. Wyatt Villers - 11 - ARK - 5A
10. Jake Gehring - 11 - BUH - 4A

145:
1. Tagen Lambotte - 10 - ROS - 321A
2. Jonathan Blackwell - 11 - BS - 4A
3. Aaron Seybold - 12 - PT - 4A
4. Dustin Williams - 10 - GE - 6A
5. Miles Johns - 12 - NEW - 5A
6. Lincoln Lemon - 12 - GD - 5A
7. Ben Becker - 12 - DB - 6A
8. Alex Thibault - 11 - HAL - 321A
9. Devon Dozier - 11 - OZ - 4A
10. Gage Younger - 11 - ELL - 321A

152:
1. Connor Middleton - 12 - ONW - 6A
2. Alex Bontz - 12 - AC - 5A
3. Rusty Yarrow - 12 - CC - 4A
4. Ky Biddle - 12 - CB - 321A
5. Mark Hobson - 12 - BS - 4A
6. Andrew Denning - 11 - LAW - 6A
7. Dalton Snyder - 12 - HOX - 321A
8. Kyle Armstrong - 11 - AN - 4A
9. Mark Smith - 12 - ROS - 321A
10. Patrick Weaver - 11 - HUG - 4A

160:
1. Sam Son - 12 - CH - 4A
2. Colton Duhr - 12 - AN - 4A
3. Trey Dice - 12 - ARK - 5A
4. Gavin Grater - 10 - CC - 4A
5. Rory Haug - 12 - ON - 6A
6. Bryant Guillen - 11 - SEA - 5A
7. Jacob Eggers - 12 - DC - 6A
8. Aaron Puckett - 11 - BS - 4A
9. Blake Hill - 12 - SME - 6A
10. Cody Carson - 12 - SMN - 6A

170:
1. Matt Reed - 12 - WH - 6A
2. Blaine Hill - 12 - SME - 6A
3. Levi Eck - 11 - AN - 4A
4. Preston Wiegel - 10 - HAY - 5A
5. Nick Pursel - 12 - LAW - 6A
6. Jesse LeMay - 12 - WEL - 321A
7. Brian Wood - 12 - MH - 6A
8. Tanner Gardner - 12 - CLW - 4A
9. Trent Salsbury - 10 - SJA - 4A
10. Harrison Gilliland - 11 - PL - 321A

182:
1. Reece Wright-Conklin - 12 - LAW - 6A
2. Spencer Wilson - 11 - LFS - 6A
3. Brock Long - 12 - SES - 321A
4. Kane Kelly - 12 - AB - 4A
5. Brent Koehn - 12 - PT - 4A
6. Tyler Lowe - 12 - EUR - 321A
7. Tyler Higgins - 12 - IKE - 5A
8. Hunter Weddington - 12 - AND - 5A
9. Nick Meck - 11 - SH - 5A
10. Brady Munsch - 12 - SS - 5A

195:
1. Shawn Marlatt - 12 - DB - 6A
2. Ulyesses DeShazer - 12 - WH - 6A
3. Colt Castlebury - 12 - DOU - 321A
4. Darien Willis - 12 - SUM - 4A
5. Taylor Krier - 12 - MCP - 4A
6. Ty Suggs - 12 - MH - 6A
7. Alex Stockton - 12 - GE - 6A
8. Litton VanDerWerff - 12 - LS - 5A
9. Dillon Archer - 11 - NEW - 5A
10. Nate Stanley - 11 - SEA - 5A

220:
1. Luke Bean - 12 - KMC - 5A
2. Nathan Butler - 11 - LV - 6A
3. Colten Lissolo - 12 - HUG - 4A
4. Cash Drylie - 12 - HAY - 5A
5. Edward Fitzgerald - 12 - SFT - 4A
6. Jordan Brown - 12 - CON - 4A
7. Tyler Keller - 12 - WNW - 6A
8. Colton Bonner - 12 - BAL - 4A
9. Brad Wilson - 12 - LAW - 6A
10. Myron Tipton - 12 - OE - 6A

285:
1. Will Geary - 11 - TOP - 6A
2. Eric Mason - 12 - STA - 5A
3. Tylor Woodruff - 12 - GD - 5A
4. Luke Hayes - 12 - SC - 321A
5. Zach Callahan - 12 - MV - 5A
6. Broc Bennett - 12 - PT - 4A
7. Zach Lanning - 12 - MCP - 4A
8. Aaron Rafalko - 11 - JC - 6A
9. Tarez Griffen - 12 - WNW - 6A
10. Clay Wilcox - 11 - CHP - 321A






Posted By: Gable Fan

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 12/07/11 10:20 PM

So Isaac Dulgarian is first all class at 120, but only 2nd in 5A. How does that work?
Posted By: wrestle nuts

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 12/07/11 10:39 PM

Vieyra moved to 113 on the updated all class 5a update hasn't been completed
Posted By: Chief Renegade

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 12/08/11 03:22 AM

As was stated correctly by wrestle nuts, the AC rankings are updated as new information comes in. The KWCA class rankings are released each Tuesday. Expect to see Javi at 113 next update.
Posted By: nastyway

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 12/08/11 01:15 PM

126 rankings is a joke watters at 7 best in the state i don't think he will lose a match all year even though they wrestle in oklahoma multiple times this year and hunter haralson #1 you got to be kidding me he didn't even make it to the finals last year and i believe watters has beat stokes there only time to meet up but renegade def has some favorites to make this list and thats all most of these are made up as his favorites not by wrestling victories. and the olsen kid just because he got 2nd in missouri is he supposed to be the greatest he came to kansas and got beat in his first tourny don't sound like 2nd overall just yet
Posted By: Quagmire

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 12/08/11 01:46 PM

Originally Posted By: nastyway
126 rankings is a joke watters at 7 best in the state i don't think he will lose a match all year even though they wrestle in oklahoma multiple times this year and hunter haralson #1 you got to be kidding me he didn't even make it to the finals last year and i believe watters has beat stokes there only time to meet up but renegade def has some favorites to make this list and thats all most of these are made up as his favorites not by wrestling victories. and the olsen kid just because he got 2nd in missouri is he supposed to be the greatest he came to kansas and got beat in his first tourny don't sound like 2nd overall just yet


Why don't you get your facts straight before you start rambling. Stokes beat Watters the only time they have ever met up at Newton last year. Michael Olsen beat Austin Hood at the Fall Brawl earlier this year. Then Haralson beat Olsen putting him at number 1. However, I do agree he should not be number 1. If anyone should be then Dylan Schumacher deserves to be at the top of that list. None of those wrestlers have criteria over him.
Posted By: badbo

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 12/08/11 02:16 PM

126 is a tough one.

Watters 3x runner up, loss to Stokes
Hood 2x state champ, loss to Olsen, win over shoemaker
Olsen MO runner up, win over Hood, loss to Haralson
Haralson did not have a good state tournament last year but has wins over Hood, and Olsen
Shoemaker has win over stokes, but losses to Haralson and Hood and Shumacher.
Shumacher 3x state champ,has win over Shoemaker.

To make it more complicated, Watters has more losses but wrestles a tougher schedule, Schumacher has the fewest losses but also fewer marquee wins, Hood is the most accomplished nationally but at a lower weight, TJ won state at a the highest weight of any of them, but just got beat by Bryce who has the most common losses. Wow...I can't figure it out.

Eudora will sort out Hood, Haralson, Shoemaker and Olsen. Watters and Haralson will hopefully meet at Newton, and Schumacher, Olsen and Shoemaker will be in the same bracket at Bobcat.

Good luck to all of them. I gotta get some asprin, my head hurts from typing this and trying to figure it out.
Posted By: Chief Renegade

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 12/08/11 02:28 PM

Originally Posted By: nastyway
but renegade def has some favorites to make this list and thats all most of these are made up as his favorites not by wrestling victories.


I'm a Colby Watters fan! I INVITED him to wrestle for our national team in OKC.

Last year at Eudora:

1st: Hunter Haralson (Lw)
2nd: Austin Hood (Lb)
3rd: Bryce Shoemaker (Bn)
4th: Tyler Dickman (MV)

Nasty, Read Badbo's and Quag's post and then YOU rank the top 7 at 126!
Posted By: chucky

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 12/08/11 02:39 PM

Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Prescott beat schoemacher?
Schoemacher beat shoemaker?
And shoemaker beat stokes
Posted By: firehawk88

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 12/08/11 03:44 PM

Keep up the good work Chief. I don't always agree with you, but I respect you. There is a right and a wrong way to give input. And lastly, if you do have something to say........put a name on it or sit back and shut up!
Posted By: pudgey905

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 12/08/11 06:25 PM

Originally Posted By: chucky
Olsen is too technically advanced for anyone in that weight class, of any of the kids there, i would have said that hood had the best shot at him.


How is that working out for you? smile
Posted By: chucky

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 12/08/11 07:27 PM

Olsen will beat Haralson this weekend at Eudora
Posted By: Mike Howell Jr.

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 12/08/11 10:32 PM

Dylan Schumacher has not lost to Brice Shoemaker. He has lost to Dalton Miller, Bo Pursel, and split with Tim Prescott. He has beat many All-Class wrestlers including Brice Shoemaker, Alex Garcia, Taelor Mendenhall, Gage Younger, Calvin Ochs, Clay Mulliagan, and over quality guys like Tyler Dickman and Alex Kough. I keep hearing he does not have quality wins, but it seems he does.
Posted By: Quagmire

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 12/08/11 11:25 PM

Mike,
I think you misread something because no said he had lost to Bryce. However, I am a strong supporter of putting Dylan at the number 1 spot. He has more state championships than the guys ranked above him. Since there is no head to head criteria between any of them I think its safe to put him at number 1. A simple break down will show why as well:
Haralson: Split with Hood (Hood has last win), I think the only common is between Haralson and Schumacher is Dalton Miller (Correct me if I'm wrong Chief) and they both lost. Haralson's state placings are 2nd in 2010 and 4th in 2011.
Olsen: beat Hood, lost to Haralson. 2nd at Missouri State in 2011. No commons with Schumacher.
Hood: 2 State titles, has the most national success in his class, both Hood and Schumacher have wrestled and beaten Bryce Shoemaker and Taelor Mendenhall.

Chief argues that because of Hoods national success he deserves the nod over Dylan. Reasonable. My argument is since there is so much confusion between the current top 3 why not move Schumacher to number 1? TMP does go to the bobcat this year so you can't say they don't go to any tough tournaments. He has more State Championships than the top 3 and apparently plenty of quality wins. What say you Chief?
Posted By: Chief Renegade

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 12/09/11 12:13 AM

Austin Hood is the most decorated wrestler that we have in Kansas right now. Without a head to head win, I cannot move Dylan above him. The quality wins that Hood, Haralson and Olsen have are on another level than those listed above.

I look forward to Eudora and the Bobcat!
Posted By: ReDPloyd

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 12/09/11 02:38 AM

Originally Posted By: chucky
Olsen will beat Haralson this weekend at Eudora

With the talent in this group, Olsen and Haralson may not even wrestle each other. I haven't seen Olsen wrestle much, but I have seen Hood, Shoemaker and Haralson plenty. It may be any given wrestler on any given day, especially with these accomplished wrestlers.
Posted By: AAA

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 12/09/11 12:05 PM

126 @ the Bobcat will be loaded with QUALITY wrestlers,if any of the Ks guys come out on top of this collection of talent then most likely you could have a clear cut 126 #1 in the All Class
GW Harding Collinsville Ok Fargo Runner up Ok State Champ
Dylan Schumacher TMP 3x Ks State Champ
Bryce Shoemaker Baldwin Ks State Champ
Daniel Lewis Mo State Champ (could be 120?)
Brad Perkins Mo State Champ (might be injured or @ 120)
Michael Olsen Lansing Mo runner up
Im certainly missing some good in and out of state guys as well this is just the top 6 that came to thought!
Good luck to all

Kevin Seybold
Posted By: Chief Renegade

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 12/09/11 01:01 PM

The way they seed this tournament, watch Harding get a 5 seed!
Posted By: back in the day

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 12/09/11 01:11 PM

It wont matter much in the long run.

They will have to wrestle the best to win.
Posted By: Chief Renegade

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 12/09/11 01:15 PM

Originally Posted By: back in the day
It wont matter much in the long run.


"much" is the key word. Many times the true final is in the semis.
Posted By: Indy Dog

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 12/09/11 04:37 PM

Are those all class rankings current? Borgan Humphry that low??? Have you guys seen this kid wreslte?
Posted By: Quagmire

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 12/09/11 05:12 PM

Originally Posted By: AAA
126 @ the Bobcat will be loaded with QUALITY wrestlers,if any of the Ks guys come out on top of this collection of talent then most likely you could have a clear cut 126 #1 in the All Class
GW Harding Collinsville Ok Fargo Runner up Ok State Champ
Dylan Schumacher TMP 3x Ks State Champ
Bryce Shoemaker Baldwin Ks State Champ
Daniel Lewis Mo State Champ (could be 120?)
Brad Perkins Mo State Champ (might be injured or @ 120)
Michael Olsen Lansing Mo runner up
Im certainly missing some good in and out of state guys as well this is just the top 6 that came to thought!
Good luck to all

Kevin Seybold


STA should throw their frosh phenom into that gauntlet.
Posted By: XGHSWC

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 12/09/11 05:27 PM

Originally Posted By: Indy Dog
Are those all class rankings current? Borgan Humphry that low??? Have you guys seen this kid wreslte?


That low? Are you being serious?
I think he is pretty dang high even though he is a state champion. He is #3 behind Kriss and Charbonneau, both state champions. All those guys at 138 are tough. He would have his hands full with most of them, especially Williams, R. Humphrey, Heincker, Ochs and obviously Kriss and Charbonneau. He barely beat Ochs at state last year.
And of course "we" have seen him wrestle, many times, particularly in folkstyle. Even watched him this summer at the junior duals in FS/GR. Anybody that knows anything about Kansas wrestling knows about Brogan and how good he is and how accomplished he is. No one is certainly disrespecting him but don't be disrespecting those other guys by talking about how "low" Brogan is.
I personally think he could be too high. It would be nice if he actually had a tougher schedule so we could see him tested throughout the season like a lot of those other guys are. Then we could see how good he really is, with all due respect.
Posted By: Chief Renegade

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 12/09/11 05:56 PM

Originally Posted By: Indy Dog
Are those all class rankings current? Borgan Humphry that low??? Have you guys seen this kid wreslte?


As I stated at the beginning of this thread:

IMPORTANT:

The input must include criteria! Asking, "Why is this guy above that guy" or saying, "I can't believe you have that guy ranked" is not criteria. Just state your evidence and if found substantive, I will change it.
Posted By: Chief Renegade

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 12/09/11 06:03 PM

Originally Posted By: Quagmire
None of those wrestlers have criteria over him.


Nor does he have criteria over them.
Posted By: Quagmire

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 12/09/11 06:43 PM

Oh but I think he does...
Dylan Schumacher 3 state championships>0 Haralson, Olsen
Dylan Schumacher 3 state championships>2 Austin Hood
But you will argue...
Austin Hood 2 state championships, Folkstyle Nationals Championship, Freestyl Nationals Championship, and Greco National Runner-up> Dylan Schumacher 3 State Championships
Which I agree with however with the current mix up in which Olsen beat Hood, Hood split with Haralson (Hood with the last win), and finally Haralson beat Olsen I would just go ahead and throw Schumacher up at 1 and see how Bobcat shakes out. Hood is the only one with notable criteria over Schumacher out of the three but Hood has losses to both of Haralson and Olsen. Since neither Haralson or Olsen have criteria over Schumacher then he should get the nod over them.
Posted By: Chief Renegade

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 12/09/11 06:47 PM

Originally Posted By: Quagmire
Hood is the only one with notable criteria over Schumacher out of the three.


Exactly my point. That is why Dylan is just below Hood.
Posted By: Tiger hopeful

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 12/12/11 05:13 AM

Hey chief, when is the next all class update?
Posted By: chewie

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 12/12/11 12:46 PM

Originally Posted By: Chief Renegade


The input must include criteria! Asking, "Why is this guy above that guy" or saying, "I can't believe you have that guy ranked" is not criteria.


You probably get that quite a bit.
Posted By: Chief Renegade

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 12/12/11 01:48 PM

Originally Posted By: Tiger hopeful
Hey chief, when is the next all class update?


The goal is tomorrow!
Posted By: badbo

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 12/12/11 02:28 PM

In reference to Eudora's 126 bracket...In a great weight with multiple kids that will be in the mix for a state title...Hood looked really good!!!

So did all of them, but Hood made a statement.
Posted By: Chief Renegade

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 12/12/11 08:16 PM

Originally Posted By: wrstlmom1970
Luke Hayes will not be making 220 this year. He is going HW.



Did I just see Luke Hayes at 195?????????
Posted By: RJW1

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 12/12/11 08:22 PM

NO! He did not wrestle at the Eagle Invite. I'm not sure who the L. Hayes is in the results but it is not Luke.
Posted By: Chief Renegade

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 12/12/11 08:30 PM

Thanks. I thought he lost a leg or something!
Posted By: Chief Renegade

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 12/12/11 09:31 PM

TEAM RANKINGS:

1. Andale - 4A
2. Arkansas City - 5A
3. Lawrence - 6A
4. St. Thomas Aquinas - 5A
5. Newton - 5A
6. Andover Central - 5A
7. Derby - 6A
8. Garden City - 6A
9. Bonner Springs - 4A
10. St. James Academy - 4A


106:
1. Trey Francka - 11 - CCO - 321A
2. Reese Cokeley - 10 - SJA - 4A - 8-2
3. Bryce Morgan - 11 - ELD - 4A - 7-0
4. Dakota Leach - 11 - GD - 5A
5. Luke Henes - 10 - STA - 5A
6. Jace Stone - 11 - MH - 6A - 10-2
7. Tristan Star - 9 - LAW - 6A
8. Jake Goldenstein - 9 - AUG - 4A - 9-0
9. Parker Howell - 10 - KMC - 5A - 4-1
10. Logan Terrill - 9 - ARK - 5A


113:
1. Zac Gentzler - 11 - AC - 5A - 12-0
2. Javier Vieyra - 12 - SS - 5A
3. Anthony Calderon - 12 - GC - 6A
4. Zak Hensley - 9 - SJA - 4A - 8-2
5. Tyler Mies - 10 - AN - 4A
6. Jason Perez - 12 - ULY - 4A
7. Jr. Morgan - 11 - AB - 4A
8. Hunter Price - 11 - HOL - 4A
9. Alex Garcia - 12 - DC - 6A
10t. John Risewick - 11 - NOR - 321A
10t. Adam Cole - 9 - CH - 4A

120:
1. Isaac Dulgarian - 9 - STA - 5A - 7-0
2. Dustin Reed - 11 - CLB - 4A
3. Tim Prescott - 12 - MCP - 4A - 5-0
4. Chris Burley - 11 - GB - 5A - 8-1
5. Quinton Harrison - 11 - NEW - 5A - 5-1
6. Jared Suppes - 11 - DB - 6A - 8-2
7. Ben Lightfoot - 11 - AC - 5A
8. Ty Kolterman - 12 - CC - 4A
9. Brad Hake - 12 - CON - 4A
10. Clayton Himple - 10 - TG - 4A

126:
1. Austin Hood - 12 - LOU - 4A - 8-0
2. Dylan Schumacher - 12 - TMP - 321A - 3-0
3. Bryce Shoemaker - 11 - BAL - 4A
4. Hunter Haralson - 11 - LAW - 6A
5. Michael Olsen - 10 - LS - 5A
6. TJ Stokes - 12 - GE - 6A
7. Colby Watters - 12 - ARK - 5A
8. Lukas Maki - 11 - KMC - 5A
9. Alex Wolf - 12 - SV - 4A
10. Taelor Mendenhall - 12 - CON - 4A

132:
1. Bo Pursel - 12 - LS - 5A - 11-0
2. Cody Eastman - 11 - ARK - 5A
3. Clay Mulligan - 12 - SC - 321A
4. Austin Hughey - 11 - ELD - 4A - 8-0
5. Jacob Durosette - 10 - FS - 4A
6. Ben Randolph - 12 - SME - 6A - 7-2
7. Shane Goetz - 12 - HUT - 6A
8. Anthony Monares - 11 - NEW - 5A - 6-0
9. Kasey Biddle - 11 - CB - 321A - 8-0
10. Greg Burley - 10 - GB - 5A - 8-1

138:
1. Konnor Kriss - 12 - CLB - 4A
2. Brandon Charbonneau - 12 - EMP - 5A
3. Brogan Humphrey - 10 - FRE - 321A
4. Calvin Ochs - 11 - HOX - 321A
5. Brady Heincker - 12 - DB - 6A
6. Victor Hughes - 11 - FS - 4A - 8-0
7. Reis Humphrey - 11 - SMS - 6A
8. Tommy Williams - 12 - STA - 5A
9. Andrew Milsap - 10 - JC - 6A
10t. Wyatt Villers - 11 - ARK - 5A
10t. Jake Gehring - 11 - BUH - 4A

145:
1. Tagen Lambotte - 10 - ROS - 321A - 8-0
2. Jonathan Blackwell - 11 - BS - 4A
3. Aaron Seybold - 12 - PT - 4A - 8-1
4. Dustin Williams - 10 - GE - 6A
5. Miles Johns - 12 - NEW - 5A - 7-0
6. Lincoln Lemon - 12 - GD - 5A
7. Ben Becker - 12 - DB - 6A
8. Alex Thibault - 11 - HAL - 321A
9. Devon Dozier - 11 - OZ - 4A
10. Gage Younger - 11 - ELL - 321A - 7-0

152:
1. Alex Bontz - 12 - AC - 5A - 10-0
2. Rusty Yarrow - 12 - CC - 4A
3. Ky Biddle - 12 - CB - 321A - 9-0
4. Mark Hobson - 12 - BS - 4A
5. Dalton Snyder - 12 - HOX - 321A
6. Kyle Armstrong - 11 - AN - 4A
7. Mark Smith - 12 - ROS - 321A
8. Andrew Denning - 11 - LAW - 6A
9. Patrick Weaver - 11 - HUG - 4A
10. Tyler Kimple - 12 - GD - 5A

160:
1. Conner Middleton - 12 - ONW - 6A
2. Sam Son - 12 - CH - 4A
3. Colton Duhr - 12 - AN - 4A
4. Trey Dice - 12 - ARK - 5A
5. Gavin Grater - 10 - CC - 4A
6. Rory Haug - 12 - ON - 6A
7. Bryant Guillen - 11 - SEA - 5A
8. Jacob Eggers - 12 - DC - 6A
9. Aaron Puckett - 11 - BS - 4A
10t. Blake Hill - 12 - SME - 6A
10t. Kolby Fennewald - 11 - MUL - 4A - 10-0

170:
1. Matt Reed - 12 - WH - 6A
2. Blaine Hill - 12 - SME - 6A
3. Levi Eck - 11 - AN - 4A
4. Preston Wiegel - 10 - HAY - 5A
5. Nick Pursel - 12 - LAW - 6A
6. Jesse LeMay - 12 - WEL - 321A
7. Brian Wood - 12 - MH - 6A - 10-1
8. Tanner Gardner - 12 - CLW - 4A
9. Trent Salsbury - 10 - SJA - 4A
10. Harrison Gilliland - 11 - PL - 321A

182:
1. Reece Wright-Conklin - 12 - LAW - 6A
2. Spencer Wilson - 11 - LFS - 6A
3. Nick Meck - 11 - SH - 5A
4. Kane Kelly - 12 - AB - 4A
5. Tyler Lowe - 12 - EUR - 321A - 6-1
6. Brock Long - 12 - SES - 321A - 11-1
7. Brent Koehn - 12 - PT - 4A
8. Tyler Higgins - 12 - IKE - 5A - 8-0
9. Hunter Weddington - 12 - AND - 5A
10. Brady Munsch - 12 - SS - 5A

195:
1. Colt Castlebury - 12 - DOU - 321A - 11-0
2. Ulyesses DeShazer - 12 - WH - 6A
3. Darien Willis - 12 - SUM - 4A
4. Taylor Krier - 12 - MCP - 4A
5. Ty Suggs - 12 - MH - 6A
6. Alex Stockton - 12 - GE - 6A
7. Dillon Archer - 11 - NEW - 5A
8. Eastin Dockers - 12 - RH - 4A
9. Shawn Marlatt - 12 - DB - 6A - 8-2
10. Litton VanDerWerff - 12 - LS - 5A

220:
1. Luke Bean - 12 - KMC - 5A
2. Nathan Butler - 11 - LV - 6A
3. Colten Lissolo - 12 - HUG - 4A
4. Edward Fitzgerald - 12 - SFT - 4A
5. Riley Oharah - 12 - GDL - 321A - 8-0
6. Cash Drylie - 12 - HAY - 5A
7. Jordan Brown - 12 - CON - 4A
8. Tyler Keller - 12 - WNW - 6A
9. Colton Bonner - 12 - BAL - 4A
10. Brad Wilson - 12 - LAW - 6A

285:
1. Will Geary - 11 - TOP - 6A
2. Zach Callahan - 12 - MV - 5A
3. Eric Mason - 12 - STA - 5A
4. Tylor Woodruff - 12 - GD - 5A
5. Luke Hayes - 12 - SC - 321A
6. Broc Bennett - 12 - PT - 4A
7. Zach Lanning - 12 - MCP - 4A
8. Aaron Rafalko - 11 - JC - 6A
9. Tarez Griffen - 12 - WNW - 6A
10. Clay Wilcox - 11 - CHP - 321A - 5-1





Posted By: My2sonz wrestle

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 12/12/11 10:38 PM

Spader got beat this weekend at Eudora by Himpel
Posted By: back in the day

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 12/12/11 11:46 PM

Where did Ty Suggs go
at 195?
Posted By: ReDPloyd

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 12/12/11 11:59 PM

Originally Posted By: My2sonz wrestle
Spader got beat this weekend at Eudora by Himpel

Himple looked very tough. He is a big 120 pounder and works very well with his legs. He still couldn't get past Dulgarian, but I am not sure many wrestlers will. Konitzer wrestled Dulgarian a tough match losing 0-3 I believe. The 120 bracket at Eudora was pretty nasty, but the 126 pound bracket was a beast. I also agree with badbo, Hood was on his game at this tournament.
Posted By: HISWAY

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 12/13/11 12:29 AM

Didn't nick meck def Kane Kelly 5-3 this weekend?
Posted By: Chief Renegade

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 12/13/11 02:32 AM

Originally Posted By: HISWAY
Didn't nick meck def Kane Kelly 5-3 this weekend?


Thanks! I had missed that.
Posted By: Chief Renegade

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 12/13/11 03:08 AM

TEAM RANKINGS:

1. Andale - 4A
2. Lawrence - 6A
3. Newton - 5A
4. Arkansas City - 5A
5. Andover Central - 5A
6. Derby - 6A
7. Garden City - 6A
8. Bonner Springs - 4A
10. St. James Academy - 4A

106:
1. Trey Francka - 11 - CCO - 321A
2. Reese Cokeley - 10 - SJA - 4A - 8-2
3. Bryce Morgan - 11 - ELD - 4A - 7-0
4. Dakota Leach - 11 - GD - 5A
5. Luke Henes - 10 - STA - 5A
6. Jace Stone - 11 - MH - 6A - 10-2
7. Tristan Star - 9 - LAW - 6A
8. Jake Goldenstein - 9 - AUG - 4A - 9-0
9. Parker Howell - 10 - KMC - 5A - 4-1
10. Logan Terrill - 9 - ARK - 5A


113:
1. Zac Gentzler - 11 - AC - 5A - 12-0
2. Javier Vieyra - 12 - SS - 5A
3. Anthony Calderon - 12 - GC - 6A
4. Zak Hensley - 9 - SJA - 4A - 8-2
5. Tyler Mies - 10 - AN - 4A
6. Jason Perez - 12 - ULY - 4A
7. Jr. Morgan - 11 - AB - 4A
8. Hunter Price - 11 - HOL - 4A
9. Alex Garcia - 12 - DC - 6A
10t. John Risewick - 11 - NOR - 321A
10t. Adam Cole - 9 - CH - 4A

120:
1. Isaac Dulgarian - 9 - STA - 5A - 7-0
2. Dustin Reed - 11 - CLB - 4A
3. Tim Prescott - 12 - MCP - 4A - 5-0
4. Chris Burley - 11 - GB - 5A - 8-1
5. Quinton Harrison - 11 - NEW - 5A - 5-1
6. Jared Suppes - 11 - DB - 6A - 8-2
7. Kevin Arnhold - 12 - HAY - 5A
8. Ben Lightfoot - 11 - AC - 5A
9. Ty Kolterman - 12 - CC - 4A
10t. Brad Hake - 12 - CON - 4A
10t. Clayton Himple - 10 - TG - 4A

126:
1. Austin Hood - 12 - LOU - 4A - 8-0
2. Dylan Schumacher - 12 - TMP - 321A - 3-0
3. Bryce Shoemaker - 11 - BAL - 4A
4. Hunter Haralson - 11 - LAW - 6A
5. Michael Olsen - 10 - LS - 5A
6. TJ Stokes - 12 - GE - 6A
7. Colby Watters - 12 - ARK - 5A
8. Lukas Maki - 11 - KMC - 5A
9. Alex Wolf - 12 - SV - 4A
10. Taelor Mendenhall - 12 - CON - 4A

132:
1. Bo Pursel - 12 - LS - 5A - 11-0
2. Cody Eastman - 11 - ARK - 5A
3. Clay Mulligan - 12 - SC - 321A
4. Austin Hughey - 11 - ELD - 4A - 8-0
5. Jacob Durosette - 10 - FS - 4A
6. Ben Randolph - 12 - SME - 6A - 7-2
7. Shane Goetz - 12 - HUT - 6A
8. Anthony Monares - 11 - NEW - 5A - 6-0
9. Kasey Biddle - 11 - CB - 321A - 8-0
10. Greg Burley - 10 - GB - 5A - 8-1

138:
1. Konnor Kriss - 12 - CLB - 4A
2. Brandon Charbonneau - 12 - EMP - 5A
3. Brogan Humphrey - 10 - FRE - 321A
4. Calvin Ochs - 11 - HOX - 321A
5. Victor Hughes - 11 - FS - 4A - 8-0
6. Reis Humphrey - 11 - SMS - 6A - 12-1
7. Brady Heincker - 12 - DB - 6A
8. Tommy Williams - 12 - STA - 5A
9. Jake Gehring - 11 - BUH - 4A
9. Wyatt Villers - 11 - ARK - 5A
10. Andrew Milsap - 10 - JC - 6A

145:
1. Tagen Lambotte - 10 - ROS - 321A - 8-0
2. Jonathan Blackwell - 11 - BS - 4A
3. Aaron Seybold - 12 - PT - 4A - 8-1
4. Dustin Williams - 10 - GE - 6A
5. Miles Johns - 12 - NEW - 5A - 7-0
6. Lincoln Lemon - 12 - GD - 5A
7. Ben Becker - 12 - DB - 6A
8. Alex Thibault - 11 - HAL - 321A
9. Devon Dozier - 11 - OZ - 4A
10. Gage Younger - 11 - ELL - 321A - 7-0

152:
1. Alex Bontz - 12 - AC - 5A - 10-0
2. Rusty Yarrow - 12 - CC - 4A
3. Ky Biddle - 12 - CB - 321A - 9-0
4. Mark Hobson - 12 - BS - 4A
5. Dalton Snyder - 12 - HOX - 321A
6. Kyle Armstrong - 11 - AN - 4A
7. Mark Smith - 12 - ROS - 321A
8. Andrew Denning - 11 - LAW - 6A
9. Patrick Weaver - 11 - HUG - 4A
10. Tyler Kimple - 12 - GD - 5A

160:
1. Conner Middleton - 12 - ONW - 6A
2. Sam Son - 12 - CH - 4A
3. Colton Duhr - 12 - AN - 4A
4. Trey Dice - 12 - ARK - 5A
5. Gavin Grater - 10 - CC - 4A
6. Rory Haug - 12 - ON - 6A
7. Bryant Guillen - 11 - SEA - 5A
8. Jacob Eggers - 12 - DC - 6A
9. Aaron Puckett - 11 - BS - 4A
10t. Blake Hill - 12 - SME - 6A
10t. Kolby Fennewald - 11 - MUL - 4A - 10-0

170:
1. Matt Reed - 12 - WH - 6A
2. Blaine Hill - 12 - SME - 6A
3. Levi Eck - 11 - AN - 4A
4. Preston Wiegel - 10 - HAY - 5A
5. Nick Pursel - 12 - LAW - 6A
6. Jesse LeMay - 12 - WEL - 321A
7. Brian Wood - 12 - MH - 6A - 10-1
8. Tanner Gardner - 12 - CLW - 4A
9. Trent Salsbury - 10 - SJA - 4A
10. Harrison Gilliland - 11 - PL - 321A

182:
1. Reece Wright-Conklin - 12 - LAW - 6A
2. Spencer Wilson - 11 - LFS - 6A
3. Hunter Weddington - 12 - AND - 5A
4. Nick Meck - 11 - SH - 5A
5. Kane Kelly - 12 - AB - 4A
6. Tyler Lowe - 12 - EUR - 321A - 6-1
7. Brock Long - 12 - SES - 321A - 11-1
8. Brent Koehn - 12 - PT - 4A
9. Tyler Higgins - 12 - IKE - 5A - 8-0
10. Brady Munsch - 11 - SS - 5A

195:
1. Colt Castlebury - 12 - DOU - 321A - 11-0
2. Ulyesses DeShazer - 12 - WH - 6A
3. Darien Willis - 12 - SUM - 4A
4. Taylor Krier - 12 - MCP - 4A
5. Ty Suggs - 12 - MH - 6A - 9-0
6. Alex Stockton - 12 - GE - 6A
7. Dillon Archer - 11 - NEW - 5A
8. Eastin Dockers - 12 - RH - 4A
9. Shawn Marlatt - 12 - DB - 6A - 8-2
10. Litton VanDerWerff - 12 - LS - 5A

220:
1. Luke Bean - 12 - KMC - 5A
2. Nathan Butler - 11 - LV - 6A
3. Colten Lissolo - 12 - HUG - 4A
4. Edward Fitzgerald - 12 - SFT - 4A
5. Riley Oharah - 12 - GDL - 321A - 8-0
6. Cash Drylie - 12 - HAY - 5A
7. Jordan Brown - 12 - CON - 4A
8. Tyler Keller - 12 - WNW - 6A
9. Colton Bonner - 12 - BAL - 4A
10. Brad Wilson - 12 - LAW - 6A

285:
1. Will Geary - 11 - TOP - 6A
2. Zach Callahan - 12 - MV - 5A
3. Eric Mason - 12 - STA - 5A
4. Tylor Woodruff - 12 - GD - 5A
5. Luke Hayes - 12 - SC - 321A
6. Broc Bennett - 12 - PT - 4A
7. Zach Lanning - 12 - MCP - 4A
8. Aaron Rafalko - 11 - JC - 6A
9. Tarez Griffen - 12 - WNW - 6A
10. Clay Wilcox - 11 - CHP - 321A - 5-1
Posted By: Kevin Arnhold

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 12/13/11 04:21 AM

Kevin Arnhold had two wins over Ben Lightfoot last year at state, and is under him in the all class rankings. Just a thought.
Posted By: Cougars130

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 12/13/11 06:03 AM

I got a quick question why does Kansas not have a single state championship where the top 3 in each weight class from each region go to the final state championship??
Posted By: doug747

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 12/13/11 12:55 PM

Because that would screw Chief out of the opportunity to get his a$$ chewed on for not ranking someone's kid high enough. They would actually have a tourney to see who the best in the state was, and Chief would be out of work. He gets paid to do that All Class Rankings I'm pretty sure, can't imagine him going thru the grief for nothing.............But I heard Cokeley was recruiting him to SJA for the principal job..........

wink
Posted By: Dodge

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 12/13/11 01:07 PM

L. Hayes at 195 is Luke's liitle brother Lane.
Posted By: 2INN

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 12/13/11 04:14 PM

I notice Anthony Monares has finally received his props for all the hard work he has been putting in. He is ranked 8th in All Class and looks like that would place him 3rd in 5a.

When will the individual classes be updated?
Posted By: Chief Renegade

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 12/13/11 04:17 PM

I am almost done with 5A.
Posted By: 2INN

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 12/13/11 04:21 PM

I've been thinking the same thing. They could have it after the State Tournament and call it "All Class Championships". Take the top two finalist or even the top four from each class 6a down to 1a. Have them compete for the "All Class Kansas Championship". That would be a HUGE money maker for the school system who claims we are soooo...broke. The money get divided by all the schools who are represented. Why not?????
Posted By: badbo

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 12/13/11 04:28 PM

It's called Grand state and they had it for two years back in like 75/76. There have been several proposals to bring it back since and all of them were voted down by KSHSAA. There were even some unofficial tournaments held in the 80's but they were not supported by the schools, and not all the kids came, kept in training, etc.

Great idea, would love to see it, but for whatever reason KSHSAA won't allow it. Overflows into track, I don't know...
Posted By: doug747

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 12/13/11 05:13 PM

Or rodeo.......... wink
Posted By: Dean Welsh

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 12/14/11 08:16 AM

Originally Posted By: Cougars130
I got a quick question why does Kansas not have a single state championship where the top 3 in each weight class from each region go to the final state championship??


Why because it makes to much sense and would be great for fans and probably a good money maker . . .
Posted By: Cougars130

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 12/14/11 11:35 AM

Its seems better than having 6 state champions what kind of credit is that for college to say I was a state champion with 5 other guys.. in TN we had 13fun teams in a region and 8 different regions and top 3 in each weight class went to state only 2 weight classes each year the top 4 got to go.. I was region champion but no state champion but if I was in ks that would be considered a state champion.. it seems easier here to me...
Posted By: Cokeley

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 12/14/11 12:09 PM

Originally Posted By: Cougars130
Its seems better than having 6 state champions what kind of credit is that for college to say I was a state champion with 5 other guys.. in TN we had 13fun teams in a region and 8 different regions and top 3 in each weight class went to state only 2 weight classes each year the top 4 got to go.. I was region champion but no state champion but if I was in ks that would be considered a state champion.. it seems easier here to me...


There are only four state champions at each weight class in KS. 6A, 5A, 4A, 321A. Yes, it is prepostorous that 16 of 32 wrestlers qualify for state in 5A & 6A (nearly 20% medal), 16 of 60 in 4A, and 16 of whatever is left in 321A but it is in alignment with today's "everyone is a winner" philosophy.

I would love to see a Grand State but if we could only make one KSHSAA change right now it would be to allow HS coaches to work with kids who want to spring wrestle. Contact with wrestlers from after state through the start of the following school year should be allowed. It would make a HUGE difference in the improvement of Kansas wrestlers.
Posted By: doug747

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 12/14/11 12:18 PM

But you were wrestling Tennessee kids, not Kansas kids, so rest assured, our format is still tougher.

I'm for Grand state also, but noone listens to me.........
Posted By: L.Geyer

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 12/14/11 01:27 PM

We somewhat have the chance to see that with the high school division in kids wrestling. We just need to get all the stud highschoolers to buy into wrestling kids.
Posted By: BrandonPigorsch

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 12/14/11 01:33 PM

Amen!

I would love to see a Grand State but if we could only make one KSHSAA change right now it would be to allow HS coaches to work with kids who want to spring wrestle. Contact with wrestlers from after state through the start of the following school year should be allowed. It would make a HUGE difference in the improvement of Kansas wrestlers.

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Posted By: lazyman_1

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 12/14/11 01:48 PM

I was region champion but no state champion but if I was in ks that would be considered a state champion.. - Cougars130


SERIOUSLY!

I did not know they had Junior Varsity region and state in Tennesse.
Posted By: D.W.

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 12/14/11 02:47 PM

Thank you Doug for putting that into the proper perspective!
Posted By: 4thapin

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 12/14/11 09:41 PM

I heard through the grapevine that Shane Goetz a senior at Hutchinson high school ranked #7 and 132 is in fact staying at the 138 weight class for the remainder of the season and their current 132 lb wrestler Terry wise is going to stay there. you may want to put goetz into 138 already.... hutchinson and derby will duel so he will get to meet heincker (Derby) who is ranked 7th @138, should be a good match
Posted By: Cougars130

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 12/15/11 12:11 AM

Umm your reply made no sense you do not knw me I was a 4 year starter never JV..get ya facts right
Posted By: Cougars130

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 12/15/11 12:21 AM

Haha your the one with jokes I believe our 1 state champion could beat all 4 of Kansas state champions and in a few other weight classes would at least beat 3 out of the 4.. but my statement was not to get ya panties in a wad it was just my thoughts on it seems easier here to be a state champion then in TN your all or nothing but here y'all share the championship like sharing skittles with friends..
Posted By: doug747

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 12/15/11 01:19 AM

I'm sure there are plenty of others on this forum to back me up on this, but has Tennessee ever beaten a Team Kansas dual team to my knowledge. (Unless you consider KS 4th team that they take to Middle School National duals.....) Facts are facts. Tennessee wrestling is not on the same level as Kansas wrestling. Period.

I'll give ya football, year in and year out, but not even close on wrestling.

I agree, every state should do one state championship, or at least do a grand state, so the winners of each class had a winner take all tourney. But for you to come on here and say that just because Tenn only has one state champion, that your state is tougher than ours, is crazy.

I could be wrong, but I don't remember seeing any Tennessee kids at the Cliff Keen Kickoff Classic in Tulsa last month. I'm thinking back over the years of taking kids to that tourney, Tulsa Nationals, and Reno, and I can't remember a Tennessee kid beating one of our kids. Really good kids stick in my mind, and I can think of really tough kids from the states of IA, OK, OH, PENN, GA, TX, NM, CA, NJ, KY, IL, NE, CO, OR, WA, MO, FL, WI, MN, MI. Funny that TN is one of the states that I can't recall one of those bada$$ kids from over the years. My son wrestled a kid named Turbo Smith from TN a few years ago at Cadet Duals. Tough kid. I can't recall another super tough kid on that team, but could be wrong. I'm sure there is a few of them out there though. Look at all of the D1 talent that KS has produced. Maybe you can prove me wrong and rattle off some D1 wrstling talent from TN. I don't claim to be an encyclopedia of KS wrestling knowledge, but when someone from ahem, Tennessee, ahem, comes onto our board badmouthing our wrestling, I take exception to that. Pick your tourneys, and show me where Tennessee out does KS in wrestling. Tulsa, Senior nationals, Reno, Iowa Folkstyle nationals, middle school duals, Schoolboy duals, Cadet duals, Junior duals, Fargo......

Cherry pick one or two Tennessee kids that may be better than a few of Kansas kids, but overall, it is no match.

I know this doesn't make me right, and you wrong, but maybe you can do some research and show me something to dispute your claims of TN superiority over KS in wrestling:
Tennessee vs Kansas

Match Summary TN KS
84 Parker Howell (Kansas) over Unknown (Unattached) Forf 0 5.00
91 Tyler Meis (Kansas) over Kyle Lee (Tennessee) TF 6-0,7-0 0 4.00
98 Double Forfeit 0 0.00
105 Javier Vieyra (Kansas) over Nick Gray (Tennessee) Dec 3-2,2-2,6-0 1 3.00
112 Conner Neal (Kansas) over Dakota Bromley (Tennessee) Dec 7-1,4-2 1 3.00
119 Quinton Harrison (Kansas) over Garrett Alexander (Tennessee) Dec 5-2,5-0 1 3.00
125 Matt Johnson (Tennessee) over Bryce Shoemaker (Kansas) Dec 1-0,3-1 3.00 1
130 Calvin Ochs (Kansas) over Unknown (Unattached) Forf 0 5.00
135 Jared Johnson (Kansas) over Brandon Hunt (Tennessee) Dec 4-0,6-0 0 3.00
140 Aaron Lopez (Tennessee) over Kyle Armstrong (Kansas) Dec 6-0,3-0 3.00 0
145 Levi Eck (Kansas) over Turbo Smith (Tennessee) Dec 6-4,4-1 1 3.00
152 Keagan Matlock (Tennessee) over Anthony Gardner (Kansas) Pin 1:13 5.00 0
160 McCoy Newberg (Tennessee) over Nick Meck (Kansas) TF 6-0,8-2 4.00 1
171 Spencer Wilson (Kansas) over John Shrader (Tennessee) Pin 0-6,1:25 0 5.00
189 Darien Willis (Kansas) over Unknown (Unattached) Forf 0 5.00
215 Billy Swanson (Tennessee) over Nathan Butler (Kansas) Pin 1-1,1:20 5.00 0
285 Jaron Brown (Kansas) over Unknown (Unattached) Forf 0 5.00
Dual Meet Score 24.0 46.0


Tennessee Kansas
Team Penalties 0 0
Individual Penalties 0 0
Wins 5 11
Pins / Defaults / Forfeits / DQ's 2 5
Technical Falls 1 1
Major Decisions 0 0
Match Points 48 69
Pin Time 2:33 1:25
Tech Time 0:00 0:00
Posted By: HEADUP

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 12/15/11 01:38 AM

The argument about Tenn. wrestling is like the argument about 321A and 4A vs 5A and 6A. Quality vs Quantity.

it's how 'Bama got into the BSC championship game. Those good ol' boys from the SEC, argue Quantity over Quality, every year.

I'm glad that no matter what state you're from wrestling is won or lost on the mat. Take a sub-par Tenn. wrestler and push him through 12 sub-par opponents, take a superior KS wrestler and push him through 6 sub-par or superior opponents.

vise versa. the other way around. flip it. twist it. however you want.

the only way to find out who is tougher, or better is to wrestle. so please Cougars130 don't bring the "southern lawyer" tatics of the SEC to wrestling. it doesn't fit!
Posted By: Cougars130

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 12/15/11 02:20 AM

Again my first statement was not about skill in wrestling it was about the multiple state champions ks has I was simply saying its easier to be a state champion in ks then TN sum1 else started the argument but to be honest I respect wrestling because I love the sport but im not gonna sit here and take trash talk about my home state and how much better TN is than KS in the sport..
Posted By: Chief Renegade

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 12/15/11 02:27 AM

Tennessee had 2 Junior division wrestlers entered at Fargo.
Posted By: Quagmire

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 12/15/11 02:31 AM

Originally Posted By: Cougars130
Again my first statement was not about skill in wrestling it was about the multiple state champions ks has I was simply saying its easier to be a state champion in ks then TN sum1 else started the argument but to be honest I respect wrestling because I love the sport but im not gonna sit here and take trash talk about my home state and how much better TN is than KS in the sport..

Hey man you started it.

Originally Posted By: Cougars130
Haha your the one with jokes I believe our 1 state champion could beat all 4 of Kansas state champions and in a few other weight classes would at least beat 3 out of the 4.. but my statement was not to get ya panties in a wad it was just my thoughts on it seems easier here to be a state champion then in TN your all or nothing but here y'all share the championship like sharing skittles with friends..

Thats some pretty bold trash talking there if I do say so myself.
Posted By: Chief Renegade

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 12/15/11 02:41 AM

Kansas has 1200 more high school wrestlers than Tennessee with less than half the population.
Posted By: Cougars130

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 12/15/11 03:23 AM

Originally Posted By: doug747
But you were wrestling Tennessee kids, not Kansas kids, so rest assured, our format is still tougher.

I'm for Grand state also, but noone listens to me.........



Umm I believe this was the first statement made saying ks wrestlers are better than TN kids.. so again I never said anything about who is better until this was said..
Posted By: Cougars130

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 12/15/11 03:26 AM

Originally Posted By: Chief Renegade
Kansas has 1200 more high school wrestlers than Tennessee with less than half the population.



Yea im sure that's true due to better odds at being a state champion in Ks then TN ... im just saying..
Posted By: ReDPloyd

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 12/15/11 03:37 AM

I don't believe that any of this side bar discussion has anything to do with this topic. The topic is 2011-12 All-Class Rankings (in Kansas). Start a new post called Kansas vs Tennessee Wrestling, or Tennessee vs Kansas Wrestling, or whatever you choose to call it.
Posted By: Cougars130

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 12/15/11 03:47 AM

Well my first question did asking why there is no final championship and asked if if it was fair yo the wrestlers to say I was a state champion with 3 other guys for a college wrestling team..
Posted By: Quagmire

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 12/15/11 03:56 AM

Originally Posted By: Cougars130
Well my first question did asking why there is no final championship and asked if if it was fair yo the wrestlers to say I was a state champion with 3 other guys for a college wrestling team..

I don't think anyone has a problem with it. I can't imagine Missouri, Illinois, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, Michigan, Minnesota, or any other state that doesn't have just one state champion complaining a whole lot either.
BTW, I would venture to say that those states are probably tougher than Tennessee as well.
Posted By: Cougars130

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 12/15/11 05:19 AM

Umm I would say so as well to due to the fact wrestling in college is not big in TN other than utc but high school championships is what im talking about but I guess im not going to win this conversation about multiple state champions in the same weight class..
Posted By: HEADUP

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 12/15/11 11:56 AM

Originally Posted By: Cougars130
Umm I would say so as well to due to the fact wrestling in college is not big in TN other than utc but high school championships is what im talking about but I guess im not going to win this conversation about multiple state champions in the same weight class..


it's not about winning! i asked you, to not continue this argument. take the time to read the posts!!! most of the people in KS, wrestlers included would love to have a GRAND STATE championship, but that's just NOT going to happen.

YOU started the trash talk, because you tried to take something away from a KS state champion. There are plenty of states that have multiple classes in wrestling. That disproves absolutly nothing.

We had a KS kid go to UTC (Daniel Peterson), wrestled for coach Brands, had alot of success. He was never a KS state champion. What does that prove??? Nothing! just facts.

you stated the fact that the TN tournament FORMAT is tougher, doug747 stated the fact that NO TN team has ever beaten a KS team that he has coached. BigChief stated a fact that there are way more wrestlers in KS than in TN.

i saw on another thread that you would volunteer as a workout partner at Derby HS. Please don't just go to Derby, make the whole circuit around Wichita, and find out for yourself, just how tough KS wrestlers are. Have a great day.
Posted By: Chief Renegade

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 12/15/11 12:19 PM

Originally Posted By: Cougars130

Yea im sure that's true due to better odds at being a state champion in Ks then TN ... im just saying..


Many TN state champions would not place in KS in my opinion.

Roll on in to that Derby room and choose bottom against Brady Heincker. He could use some practice on his riding time.
Posted By: coach mock

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 12/15/11 12:44 PM

I was a high school ref in tenn in 2006 there is only a small percent of high school in tenn that even has high school wrestling that is crazy to even compare anything they do in high school wrestling in tenn to any state. High school wrestling in tenn died in the 80s. Most of the schools can't fill a var line up.
Posted By: doug747

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 12/15/11 12:53 PM

Asking him to go around to some high school rooms is a great idea. I didn't know he was looking for some practice partners.......Let's have a "Cougar tour"!!!
Posted By: L.Geyer

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 12/15/11 01:29 PM

Cougars130,
Here go to this website and join the other 10 TN wrestling fans and talk about how good TN wrestling is. http://www.tennwrestling.com/forum/
Posted By: Chief Renegade

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 12/15/11 01:38 PM

TEAM RANKINGS:

1. Andale - 4A
2. Lawrence - 6A
3. Newton - 5A
4. Arkansas City - 5A
5. St. Thomas Aquinas - 5A
6. Andover Central - 5A
7. Derby - 6A
8. Manhattan - 6A
9. Garden City - 6A
10. Bonner Springs - 4A


106:
1. Trey Francka - 11 - CCO - 321A
2. Reese Cokeley - 10 - SJA - 4A - 8-2
3. Bryce Morgan - 11 - ELD - 4A - 7-0
4. Dakota Leach - 11 - GD - 5A
5. Luke Henes - 10 - STA - 5A
6. Jace Stone - 11 - MH - 6A - 10-2
7. Tristan Star - 9 - LAW - 6A
8. Jake Goldenstein - 9 - AUG - 4A - 9-0
9. Parker Howell - 10 - KMC - 5A - 4-1
10. Logan Terrill - 9 - ARK - 5A


113:
1. Zac Gentzler - 11 - AC - 5A - 12-0
2. Javier Vieyra - 12 - SS - 5A
3. Anthony Calderon - 12 - GC - 6A
4. Zak Hensley - 9 - SJA - 4A - 8-2
5. Tyler Mies - 10 - AN - 4A
6. Jason Perez - 12 - ULY - 4A
7. Hunter Price - 11 - HOL - 4A
8. Alex Garcia - 12 - DC - 6A
9. John Risewick - 11 - NOR - 321A
10. Adam Cole - 9 - CH - 4A

120:
1. Isaac Dulgarian - 9 - STA - 5A - 7-0
2. Dustin Reed - 11 - CLB - 4A
3. Tim Prescott - 12 - MCP - 4A - 5-0
4. Chris Burley - 11 - GB - 5A - 8-1
5. Quinton Harrison - 11 - NEW - 5A - 5-1
6. Jared Suppes - 11 - DB - 6A - 8-2
7. Kevin Arnhold - 12 - HAY - 5A
8. Ben Lightfoot - 11 - AC - 5A
9. Ty Kolterman - 12 - CC - 4A
10t. Brad Hake - 12 - CON - 4A
10t. Clayton Himple - 10 - TG - 4A

126:
1. Austin Hood - 12 - LOU - 4A - 8-0
2. Dylan Schumacher - 12 - TMP - 321A - 3-0
3. Bryce Shoemaker - 11 - BAL - 4A
4. TJ Stokes - 12 - GE - 5A
5. Hunter Haralson - 11 - LAW - 6A
6. Michael Olsen - 10 - LS - 5A
7. Colby Watters - 12 - ARK - 5A
8. Lukas Maki - 11 - KMC - 5A
9. Alex Wolf - 12 - SV - 4A
10. Taelor Mendenhall - 12 - CON - 4A

132:
1. Bo Pursel - 12 - LS - 5A - 11-0
2. Cody Eastman - 11 - ARK - 5A
3. Clay Mulligan - 12 - SC - 321A
4. Austin Hughey - 11 - ELD - 4A - 8-0
5. Jacob Durosette - 10 - FS - 4A
6. Ben Randolph - 12 - SME - 6A - 7-2
7. Anthony Monares - 11 - NEW - 5A - 6-0
8. Kasey Biddle - 11 - CB - 321A - 8-0
9. Greg Burley - 10 - GB - 5A - 8-1
10. Thatcher Murdoch - 12 - PAR - 4A

138:
1. Konnor Kriss - 12 - CLB - 4A
2. Brandon Charbonneau - 12 - EMP - 5A
3. Brogan Humphrey - 10 - FRE - 321A
4. Calvin Ochs - 11 - HOX - 321A
5. Victor Hughes - 11 - FS - 4A - 8-0
6. Reis Humphrey - 11 - SMS - 6A - 12-1
7. Brady Heincker - 12 - DB - 6A
8. Tommy Williams - 12 - STA - 5A
9. Jake Gehring - 11 - BUH - 4A
10. Shane Goetz - 12 - HUT - 6A

145:
1. Tagen Lambotte - 10 - ROS - 321A - 8-0
2. Jonathan Blackwell - 11 - BS - 4A
3. Aaron Seybold - 12 - PT - 4A - 8-1
4. Dustin Williams - 10 - GE - 6A
5. Miles Johns - 12 - NEW - 5A - 7-0
6. Lincoln Lemon - 12 - GD - 5A
7. Ben Becker - 12 - DB - 6A
8. Alex Thibault - 11 - HAL - 321A
9. Devon Dozier - 11 - OZ - 4A
10. Gage Younger - 11 - ELL - 321A - 7-0

152:
1. Alex Bontz - 12 - AC - 5A - 10-0
2. Rusty Yarrow - 12 - CC - 4A
3. Ky Biddle - 12 - CB - 321A - 9-0
4. Mark Hobson - 12 - BS - 4A
5. Dalton Snyder - 12 - HOX - 321A
6. Kyle Armstrong - 11 - AN - 4A
7. Mark Smith - 12 - ROS - 321A
8. Patrick Weaver - 11 - HUG - 4A
9. Tyler Kimple - 12 - GD - 5A
10. Razzy Morales - 12 - ULY - 4A

160:
1. Conner Middleton - 12 - ONW - 6A
2. Sam Son - 12 - CH - 4A
3. Colton Duhr - 12 - AN - 4A
4. Trey Dice - 12 - ARK - 5A
5. Gavin Grater - 10 - CC - 4A
6. Rory Haug - 12 - ON - 6A
7. Bryant Guillen - 11 - SEA - 5A
8. Jacob Eggers - 12 - DC - 6A
9. Aaron Puckett - 11 - BS - 4A
10t. Blake Hill - 12 - SME - 6A - 4-1
10t. Kolby Fennewald - 11 - MUL - 4A - 10-0

170:
1. Matt Reed - 12 - WH - 6A
2. Blaine Hill - 12 - SME - 6A - 4-1
3. Levi Eck - 11 - AN - 4A
4. Preston Wiegel - 10 - HAY - 5A
5. Nick Pursel - 12 - LAW - 6A
6. Jesse LeMay - 12 - WEL - 321A
7. Brian Wood - 12 - MH - 6A - 10-1
8. Tanner Gardner - 12 - CLW - 4A
9. Trent Salsbury - 10 - SJA - 4A
10. Harrison Gilliland - 11 - PL - 321A

182:
1. Reece Wright-Conklin - 12 - LAW - 6A
2. Spencer Wilson - 11 - LFS - 6A
3. Hunter Weddington - 12 - AND - 5A
4. Nick Meck - 11 - SH - 5A
5. Kane Kelly - 12 - AB - 4A
6. Tyler Lowe - 12 - EUR - 321A - 6-1
7. Brock Long - 12 - SES - 321A - 11-1
8. Brent Koehn - 12 - PT - 4A
9. Tyler Higgins - 12 - IKE - 5A - 8-0
10. Brady Munsch - 11 - SS - 5A

195:
1. Colt Castlebury - 12 - DOU - 321A - 11-0
2. Ulyesses DeShazer - 12 - WH - 6A
3. Darien Willis - 12 - SUM - 4A
4. Taylor Krier - 12 - MCP - 4A
5. Ty Suggs - 12 - MH - 6A - 9-0
6. Alex Stockton - 12 - GE - 6A
7. Dillon Archer - 11 - NEW - 5A
8. Eastin Dockers - 12 - RH - 4A
9. Shawn Marlatt - 12 - DB - 6A - 8-2
10. Litton VanDerWerff - 12 - LS - 5A

220:
1. Luke Bean - 12 - KMC - 5A
2. Nathan Butler - 11 - LV - 6A
3. Colten Lissolo - 12 - HUG - 4A
4. Edward Fitzgerald - 12 - SFT - 4A
5. Riley Oharah - 12 - GDL - 321A - 8-0
6. Cash Drylie - 12 - HAY - 5A
7. Jordan Brown - 12 - CON - 4A
8. Tyler Keller - 12 - WNW - 6A
9. Colton Bonner - 12 - BAL - 4A
10. Brad Wilson - 12 - LAW - 6A

285:
1. Will Geary - 11 - TOP - 6A
2. Zach Callahan - 12 - MV - 5A
3. Eric Mason - 12 - STA - 5A
4. Tylor Woodruff - 12 - GD - 5A
5. Luke Hayes - 12 - SC - 321A
6. Broc Bennett - 12 - PT - 4A
7. Zach Lanning - 12 - MCP - 4A
8. Aaron Rafalko - 11 - JC - 6A
9. Tarez Griffen - 12 - WNW - 6A
10. Clay Wilcox - 11 - CHP - 321A - 5-1
Posted By: coach mock

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 12/15/11 01:46 PM

Cougars130 your lucky to be in kansas if your a wrestling fan coming from tenn and you shouldn't trash talk the why we do things. With the support that high school wrestling gets in tenn they're lucky they have a state tour at all its sad the way wrestling gets treated in tenn and you know that. I lived tenn for two seasons i came back for kansas high school state both season i lived in tenn.
Posted By: doug747

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 12/15/11 04:29 PM

Cougar, you're either with us, or against us........Your original idea is kind of a sore subject with KS wrestling. We want a grand state tourney, but KSHSAA won't support it. The fact that we don't have a "true state champion", as you put it, doesn't take away from the fact that KS wrestling is very tough. Room for improvement, yes, but nails tough.

That freestyle dual that I posted was with a KS team that was missing several of its 2nd year cadets. Gentzler, Matt Reed, Ulyses Deshazer, Tagen Lambotte, Bryant Guillen sat out that dual at 152. That KS team took 6th in the Cadet national duals Greco tourney that year in Minnesota, missing a lot of good cadets. Lost in the 1st round of the 1st consolation bracket of freestyle.
Posted By: coach mock

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 12/15/11 05:00 PM

Cougar does tenn have a public and prep school division? so they have two state champs a prep and pubic school state champ?
Posted By: lazyman_1

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 12/15/11 05:18 PM

http://www.chattanoogan.com/articles/article_167972.asp

See attached for top 50 wrestlers from Tennesse.
Posted By: Chief Renegade

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 12/15/11 06:47 PM

Let's drop the KS v TN deal on this thread. It's been established that TN is relatively weak overall.
Posted By: Tommyboy

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 12/15/11 07:42 PM

The only one from Tenn that comes to mind is Jordan Leen (Cornell).
Posted By: Pittpepa

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 12/15/11 08:19 PM

I agree that this topic should be dropped. It has no benefit except to stir up the testosterone-and there can be plenty of that just discussing "good" topics. Trash talking has a way of becoming tiresome very fast & it just takes up space. grin cool
Posted By: doug747

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 12/15/11 09:16 PM

I don't ever quit until someone tells me I won..........
Posted By: bawoody

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 12/15/11 09:40 PM

You win Doug!!!...... laugh
Posted By: ReDPloyd

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 12/15/11 10:35 PM

Originally Posted By: bawoody
You win Doug!!!...... laugh

I second the motion. Doug wins hands down, legs up, neck bent, face planted, body contorted .... let's move on. Did I say I second the motion?
Posted By: doug747

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 12/15/11 10:38 PM

Good thing, I was gassing.........
Posted By: ReDPloyd

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 12/15/11 10:52 PM

Originally Posted By: doug747
Good thing, I was gassing.........

Probably too many of those tacos. You might consider checking the Warning label next time:-)
Posted By: Cokeley

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 12/15/11 11:09 PM

Taco Tico or Fish tacos??
Posted By: ReDPloyd

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 12/16/11 12:13 AM

Originally Posted By: Cokeley
Taco Tico or Fish tacos??

I prefer the Pizza Taco, but for many years you could only get them in Pratt. If you get the opportunity, go to the Chapeau and have one, with a side of Fish Bowl. Although they are more expensive than they used to be, they are awesome. I think I heard recently that they are now selling them in Wichita. But now, back to the topic, 2011-12 All-Class Rankings!
Posted By: Cougars130

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 12/16/11 01:31 AM

Ok I have alot to cover first off about the topic I figured I would get a response to my question and I did about y ks does what it does om not taking the state championship from the wrestlers I was just saying if I was one of those state champs would I be satisfied...

I would love to go take a trip around to every school and wrestle with them but im in the military work odd hours and derby high school is close. To my house im sure there are alot of talented kids out there

I respect ks wrestling for the fact I love the sport and glad to see its done more here than TN ..

And for the private school state championship is a freebie compared to the public schools. Private schools automatically get to go to state even if u went 0-32 your going to state and private schools may have only 2 or 3 really good wrestlers in each weight class so odds are alot better to placing then in public schools


As far as the ref goes in 2006 you should remember wrestlers like nic bundy Kellen holliman Kelly felix and Tyler roberson

All in all im for wrestling in general so take what I said however u wanted I only knw what I meant to say
Posted By: doug747

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 12/16/11 01:56 AM

We have 4 state champs per weight class, so technically, only 3 of them should feel bad about being a state champ. Isn't one of them the best?
Posted By: sportsfan02

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 12/16/11 02:04 AM

Originally Posted By: Cougars130

Private schools automatically get to go to state even if u went 0-32 your going to state and private schools may have only 2 or 3 really good wrestlers in each weight class so odds are alot better to placing then in public schools

That's pretty much how it is here only we call it 6A.
Posted By: U My Boy Blue

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 12/16/11 02:37 AM

Come on sportsfan02, the kids can't help were they live, what school they attend, or what classification they are placed in. There are several though kids in 6A!
Posted By: Chief Renegade

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 12/16/11 02:52 AM

6 of the top 7 wrestlers in our state are large class.
Posted By: ReDPloyd

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 12/16/11 03:22 AM

Originally Posted By: sportsfan02
Originally Posted By: Cougars130

Private schools automatically get to go to state even if u went 0-32 your going to state and private schools may have only 2 or 3 really good wrestlers in each weight class so odds are alot better to placing then in public schools

That's pretty much how it is here only we call it 6A.

I think that you are right on target with this one. All of our wrestlers are looking forward to the free pass. They don't have to put in the work to get to State, they just have to make weight. In many venues, they call this bulletin board material. I don't think our wrestlers have to worry about that. They just have to worry about making weight.
Posted By: U My Boy Blue

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 12/16/11 03:44 AM

Call it what you will, the bulletin board material worked for us last year!
Posted By: ReDPloyd

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 12/16/11 04:19 AM

There are a lot of great wrestlers throughout the state, from the 3/2/1A classification up to the 6A classification. For someone to come on this forum and slight one classification for being weak is just pathetic. Maybe they should appreciate that we have some great wrestling across the state, regardless of the size of the community they live in.
Posted By: Coach Prieto

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 12/16/11 04:23 PM

Jordan Leen moved to Tennessee from, you guessed it Kansas!
Posted By: wrestlingmomxx3

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 12/16/11 11:58 PM

Goetz will be certifying at 32... He will be wrestling 32 before newton.
Posted By: smokeycabin

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 12/18/11 02:28 AM

Don't you have to use criteria in beating the teams you are ranked a head of?
Posted By: Cokeley

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 12/18/11 09:48 PM

Originally Posted By: smokeycabin
Don't you have to use criteria in beating the teams you are ranked a head of?

Racking up a bunch or wins and team points against a stringer of fish doesn't get you anywhere. BTW, we are still waiting on our 3rd place plaque from two years ago.
Posted By: smokeycabin

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 12/18/11 10:45 PM

You have to wrestle someone in your weight class in the state you are ranked in sometime during the current school year in order to recieve a high ranking. Multiple wins over top 10 wrestlers in the state in your weight should have some merit. Or placing higher in a tournament than a ranked opponent.
Posted By: Cokeley

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 12/18/11 10:58 PM

Originally Posted By: smokeycabin
You have to wrestle someone in your weight class in the state you are ranked in sometime during the current school year in order to recieve a high ranking. Multiple wins over top 10 wrestlers in the state in your weight should have some merit. Or placing higher in a tournament than a ranked opponent.


Please give specific examples. If you are making an accusation of dodging ranked opponents then quit choking on it and just spit it out!

I thought you were referring to team rankings. A pool format to determine individual champions is not a good way to measure team strength. See you guys at the Bobcat. There won't be any need for tackle boxes or stringers at Basehor Linwood HS.
Posted By: smokeycabin

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 12/18/11 11:03 PM

Beating a state runner-up (within the same weight class from the previous year) who beat the guy who is ranked a head of you should have some value in the current year ranking. As well as beating some of the wrestlers from the "most recent top 10" a couple of times. But not wrestling any of the guys this year in the top 10 I do not know what criteria you can use to be deserving of a high ranking. The season has been going for 3 weeks in this state.
Posted By: Cokeley

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 12/18/11 11:06 PM

Originally Posted By: smokeycabin
Beating a state runner-up (within the same weight class from the previous year) who beat the guy who is ranked a head of you should have some value in the current year ranking. As well as beating some of the wrestlers from the "most recent top 10" a couple of times. But not wrestling any of the guys this year in the top 10 I do not know what criteria you can use to be deserving of a high ranking. The season has been going for 3 weeks in this state.


Name someone. You are just babbling stuff that doesn't make any sense unless you tell Chief EXACTLY who your are talking about. WHO DO YOU THINK IS GETTING A RAW DEAL??
Posted By: smokeycabin

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 12/18/11 11:08 PM

Placing 2 spots higher in tournament should also have merit when your not in the top 10 and a wrestler who was at the tournament places 2 spots lower was in the top 10.
Posted By: smokeycabin

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 12/18/11 11:24 PM

Take the bias/friendship stuff out, and objectively look at the results to gain better credability.

All I am saying if you want a good ranking in your state you need to wrestle guys in your weight from your state. Wrestling at or above your seeding in previous tournament is a big consideration.

Take the current top 10 in each weight this year and who did they beat within the top ten right now it is that simple. If you have not wrestled against any top ten wrestlers this year after 3 weeks in your ranked weight it should be consider in the evaluation process.
Posted By: Chief Renegade

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 12/19/11 12:01 AM

Sean,

I am totally impressed with Luke this year and would love to have seen a match with Reese at the JCC. Many wrestlers are managing their weight as the season goes on and that's what happened this weekend. Does he have a common over Reese this year? I had meant to congratulate him at the tournament but will state it here. Nice start to the season!
Posted By: Cokeley

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 12/19/11 12:01 AM

Shawn,
If you are talking about Reese and Luke just say it. If not then drop it. There is no bias/frienship factored into the rankings but seeking the toughest competition no matter whether it is in state or out of state gets you better for the state tournament. You cannot setup your schedule to make sure that you get to wrestle some of the ranked guys. Rankings are about who, absent of imperical data, the ranker feels is the better wrestler or the one who would win. I have seen you state on several occasions that rankings mean nothing until they wrestle each other. Now you seem to be talking out of the other side of your mouth. I have nothing to do with the rankings and I am bias. Reese can beat all of the 106lbers in the state. Time will tell.
Posted By: Chief Renegade

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 12/19/11 12:04 AM

Originally Posted By: smokeycabin
Beating a state runner-up (within the same weight class from the previous year) who beat the guy who is ranked a head of you should have some value in the current year ranking. As well as beating some of the wrestlers from the "most recent top 10" a couple of times. But not wrestling any of the guys this year in the top 10 I do not know what criteria you can use to be deserving of a high ranking. The season has been going for 3 weeks in this state.


Just PM me Sean, if you don't want to say any specifics. I absolutely want the rankings to be as accurate as possible.
Posted By: smokeycabin

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 12/19/11 12:49 AM

What has more value a 3-2 ot win against a good kid but not in the all class ranking or 2 convincing wins against the same wrestler ranked in all class, and another convincing shutout over an all class ranked wrestler and previous runner up in 6A and currently ranked 1st in 6A. What is the criteria to move from one weight 10th all class and jump to 2nd all class without meeting any of the guys this year in that group.

Many factors are considered (Not always in this order):

1. State bracket performance.
2. Performance at national folkstyle tournaments.
3. National FS/GR success.
4. Information from Coaches and Parents.
5. Competition that the wrestler has faced.


Posted By: smokeycabin

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 12/19/11 12:56 AM

170:
1. Matt Reed - 12 - WH - 6A
2. Blaine Hill - 12 - SME - 6A - 4-1
3. Levi Eck - 11 - AN - 4A
4. Preston Wiegel - 10 - HAY - 5A
5. Nick Pursel - 12 - LAW - 6A
6. Jesse LeMay - 12 - WEL - 321A
7. Brian Wood - 12 - MH - 6A - 10-1
8. Tanner Gardner - 12 - CLW - 4A
9. Trent Salsbury - 10 - SJA - 4A
10. Harrison Gilliland - 11 - PL - 321A


Johnson County Classic Results:


170:
1. Hill - SME - 8-2
2. Perz - STA
3. Hampton - SPH
4. Salsbury - SJA
5. Craven - BVW
6. Dillard - SMW
Posted By: smokeycabin

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 12/19/11 01:19 AM

285:
1. Will Geary - 11 - TOP - 6A
2. Zach Callahan - 12 - MV - 5A
3. Eric Mason - 12 - STA - 5A
4. Tylor Woodruff - 12 - GD - 5A
5. Luke Hayes - 12 - SC - 321A
6. Broc Bennett - 12 - PT - 4A
7. Zach Lanning - 12 - MCP - 4A
8. Aaron Rafalko - 11 - JC - 6A
9. Tarez Griffen - 12 - WNW - 6A
10. Clay Wilcox - 11 - CHP - 321A - 5-1
_________________________
Eric Johnson


JOCO Results - The latest
285:
1. Mason - STA - 2-1 OT
2. Callahan - MV

Posted By: smokeycabin

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 12/19/11 01:28 AM

106:
1. Trey Francka - 11 - CCO - 321A
2. Reese Cokeley - 10 - SJA - 4A - 8-2
3. Bryce Morgan - 11 - ELD - 4A - 7-0
4. Dakota Leach - 11 - GD - 5A
5. Luke Henes - 10 - STA - 5A
6. Jace Stone - 11 - MH - 6A - 10-2
7. Tristan Star - 9 - LAW - 6A
8. Jake Goldenstein - 9 - AUG - 4A - 9-0
9. Parker Howell - 10 - KMC - 5A - 4-1
10. Logan Terrill - 9 - ARK - 5A

Johnson County Results
106:
1. Henes - STA - 4-0
2. Mueller - BVW
3. Scott - MV - 9-0
4. Pelfrey - BVSW
5. Burger - GE
6. Miller - DS

113:
1. Kenny – OE
2. Smith - SPH
3. Cokeley – SJA 3-2
4. Gooch - STA
5. Haug - ON
6. Penner - BVW

Leavenworth Tournament
106 A Pool
1. Luke Henes – STA (good wins against 2 very good wrestlers)
2. Jace Stone – MAN
3. Tristan Star LAW

Eudora
1st Place: Luke Henes (Aq) vs Star 6-2 in the finals
2nd Place: Tristan Star (Lw)
3rd Place: Logan Bowen (Eff)
4th Place: Cole Hoing (Ls)
5th Place: Landon Scott (MV)

Gardner Edgerton Wrestling Invitational Results for St James Academy
106 - Reese Cokeley's place is 3rd and has scored 16.50 team points.
Round 1 - Reese Cokeley (St James Academy) 4-1 won by tech fall over Jasmine Bailey (Iowa City West) 3-2 (TF 16-0)
Round 2 - Reese Cokeley (St James Academy) 4-1 won by pin over Erik Rodriquez (Olathe North) 3-2 (Pin 5:14)
Round 3 - Reese Cokeley (St James Academy) 4-1 received a bye () (Bye)
Championship Bracket - Aaron Meyer (Southeast Polk) 6-0 won by decision over Reese Cokeley (St James Academy) 4-1 (Dec 6-2)
3rd Place Match - Reese Cokeley (St James Academy) 4-1 won in overtime over Levi Kester (Pittsburg) 3-2 (OT 5-3)

Posted By: Chief Renegade

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 12/19/11 01:33 AM

Originally Posted By: smokeycabin
What is the criteria to move from one weight 10th all class and jump to 2nd all class without meeting any of the guys this year in that group.


Reese had a head-to-head win at state over the #2 ranked Bryce Morgan. That's why I ranked him #2.
Posted By: Chief Renegade

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 12/19/11 01:35 AM

Originally Posted By: smokeycabin
285:
1. Will Geary - 11 - TOP - 6A
2. Zach Callahan - 12 - MV - 5A
3. Eric Mason - 12 - STA - 5A
4. Tylor Woodruff - 12 - GD - 5A
5. Luke Hayes - 12 - SC - 321A
6. Broc Bennett - 12 - PT - 4A
7. Zach Lanning - 12 - MCP - 4A
8. Aaron Rafalko - 11 - JC - 6A
9. Tarez Griffen - 12 - WNW - 6A
10. Clay Wilcox - 11 - CHP - 321A - 5-1
_________________________
Eric Johnson


JOCO Results - The latest
285:
1. Mason - STA - 2-1 OT
2. Callahan - MV



Gotcha. I haven't updated that yet. Callahan jumped Mason after he beat him at Eudora. That will change with this week's update.
Posted By: Chief Renegade

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 12/19/11 01:36 AM

Originally Posted By: smokeycabin
170:
1. Matt Reed - 12 - WH - 6A
2. Blaine Hill - 12 - SME - 6A - 4-1
3. Levi Eck - 11 - AN - 4A
4. Preston Wiegel - 10 - HAY - 5A
5. Nick Pursel - 12 - LAW - 6A
6. Jesse LeMay - 12 - WEL - 321A
7. Brian Wood - 12 - MH - 6A - 10-1
8. Tanner Gardner - 12 - CLW - 4A
9. Trent Salsbury - 10 - SJA - 4A
10. Harrison Gilliland - 11 - PL - 321A


Johnson County Classic Results:


170:
1. Hill - SME - 8-2
2. Perz - STA
3. Hampton - SPH
4. Salsbury - SJA
5. Craven - BVW
6. Dillard - SMW


This will change also on the next update.
Posted By: Chief Renegade

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 12/19/11 01:39 AM

Originally Posted By: smokeycabin
106:
1. Trey Francka - 11 - CCO - 321A
2. Reese Cokeley - 10 - SJA - 4A - 8-2
3. Bryce Morgan - 11 - ELD - 4A - 7-0
4. Dakota Leach - 11 - GD - 5A
5. Luke Henes - 10 - STA - 5A
6. Jace Stone - 11 - MH - 6A - 10-2
7. Tristan Star - 9 - LAW - 6A
8. Jake Goldenstein - 9 - AUG - 4A - 9-0
9. Parker Howell - 10 - KMC - 5A - 4-1
10. Logan Terrill - 9 - ARK - 5A

Johnson County Results
106:
1. Henes - STA - 4-0
2. Mueller - BVW
3. Scott - MV - 9-0
4. Pelfrey - BVSW
5. Burger - GE
6. Miller - DS

113:
1. Kenny – OE
2. Smith - SPH
3. Cokeley – SJA 3-2
4. Gooch - STA
5. Haug - ON
6. Penner - BVW


Exactly how is this criteria? Has Henes beaten Taylor Smith this year? Has he beaten Reese Cokeley this year? Has he beaten anyone ranked above him this year? As I stated earlier, I have moved Luke up and am very impressed at his work this year!
Posted By: smokeycabin

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 12/19/11 02:04 AM

Darn right he has beaten guys ranked above him - that is how he got moved up! Fortunately he has been at the right tournaments to
win those challanges and rose to the occassion.

Taylor Smith - not in your top ten.
Posted By: smokeycabin

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 12/19/11 02:12 AM

Reese had a head-to-head win at state over the #2 ranked Bryce Morgan. That's why I ranked him #2.
_________________________


What state tournament are you talking about? Last Years 4A state tournament?
Posted By: Chief Renegade

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 12/19/11 02:14 AM

Yes! Until there is current year criteria, the state bracket still weighs in. Every single seeding meeting has LAST YEAR'S State placing as criteria.
Posted By: smokeycabin

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 12/19/11 02:17 AM

I thought your rankings were suppose to reflect who is wrestling the best at this time right now December 18, 2011 in a particular weight class and it should be not some thing that happened 9 months ago in a totally different season.
Posted By: Chief Renegade

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 12/19/11 02:19 AM

Originally Posted By: smokeycabin
I thought your rankings were suppose to reflect who is wrestling the best at this time right now December 18, 2011 in a particular weight class and it should be not some thing that happened 9 months ago in a totally different season.


WITHOUT current year criteria, last year's state bracket is better than a coin flip.
Posted By: Chief Renegade

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 12/19/11 02:24 AM

Henes has beaten:

Star
Stone
Scott
Mueller

None of these wrestlers have criteria over Reese.
Posted By: smokeycabin

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 12/19/11 02:25 AM

Not any criteria in your little book.
Posted By: Chief Renegade

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 12/19/11 02:27 AM

Originally Posted By: smokeycabin
Not any criteria in your little book.


Any criteria anywhere.
Posted By: smokeycabin

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 12/19/11 02:30 AM



Both Morgan and Henes actually placed in their state tournament - that does have some criteria value. Forget it - if the shoe were on the other foot - I can see you working the little game.
Posted By: Ex Heights Coach

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 12/19/11 02:32 AM

Since the Emporia results haven't been recorded here, Dakota Leach soundly beat Trey Franka 5-2 in the finals of 106.
Posted By: Quagmire

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 12/19/11 02:38 AM

Originally Posted By: smokeycabin
You have to wrestle someone in your weight class in the state you are ranked in sometime during the current school year in order to recieve a high ranking. Multiple wins over top 10 wrestlers in the state in your weight should have some merit. Or placing higher in a tournament than a ranked opponent.


At Bobcat Reese will see:
Luke Henes
Dakota Leach

At Silver Lake:
Trey Franka

At State:
Bryce Morgan
Jake Goldenstein
Posted By: smokeycabin

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 12/19/11 02:38 AM

That I believe and congrats to Dakota.

Since the Emporia results haven't been recorded here, Dakota Leach soundly beat Trey Franka 5-2 in the finals of 106.
Posted By: Chief Renegade

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 12/19/11 02:40 AM

Originally Posted By: smokeycabin


Both Morgan and Henes actually placed in their state tournament - that does have some criteria value. Forget it - if the shoe were on the other foot - I can see you working the little game.


There is no little game. Give me criteria and I will change the rankings.
Posted By: Cokeley

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 12/19/11 02:41 AM

Originally Posted By: smokeycabin


Both Morgan and Henes actually placed in their state tournament - that does have some criteria value. Forget it - if the shoe were on the other foot - I can see you working the little game.


Smokey(Rankings Don't Matter) Cabin,

Give it a rest. What does it matter??? The Bobcat is two weeks from now. Luke, Reese, Dakota, and some top out of state talent will be there. Perhaps you will get a match up. If not then we will just have to use what is out there. Reese has the last win over Luke and Morgan so that matters until it changes. (Be happy that Luke is ranked over Parker Howell even though Parker has the last win.) How in the world can you say you know anything about wrestling and then say that HEAD TO HEAD doesn't matter more than any other criteria??? You are a great guy but you are sounding like a moron during this stream.
Posted By: smokeycabin

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 12/19/11 02:45 AM

I would believe Dakota a number 1 and deserving. But their is your "common" opponent between Dakota and Luke in Stone from last years state tournament. Both Henes and Dakota have grown in to the weight and I look forward to watching these guys develop.
Posted By: Quagmire

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 12/19/11 02:53 AM

Leach has also beaten Stone this year at Ark City. Morgan has 2 head to head wins over Leach from last year.
Posted By: smokeycabin

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 12/19/11 02:56 AM

I don't think head to head with Dakota losing to Stone last year should have any bearing on him being ranked number 1 this year at this time. Henes had 2 wins over Stone 1 last year and 1 this year. What is happening here and now.

I am saying the same thing you guys were saying about Hensley and Dulgarian. They had no high school history but should be seeded in front of guys that placed 2nd in state. And I agree with that even though their was no head-to-head.
Posted By: Cokeley

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 12/19/11 03:00 AM

Originally Posted By: smokeycabin
I don't think head to head with Dakota losing to Stone last year should have any bearing on him being ranked number 1 this year at this time. Henes had 2 wins over Stone 1 last year and 1 this year. What is happening here and now.

I am saying the same thing you guys were saying about Hensley and Dulgarian. They had no high school history but should be seeded in front of guys that placed 2nd in state. And I agree with that even though their was no head-to-head.


BTW, the critieria is MORGAN beat Leach twice last year, not Stone.

So are you saying YOU know that one of these 106 pounders is better than the other without them wrestling? I think Reese could beat them all but I also KNOW that he could lose to any one of them. These wrestlers are all very close.

Everyone KNEW and AGREED that Zak and Isaac were the two best in the bracket. It worked out.

I don't think anyone KNOWS, absent some more matches, how these rankings REALLY should be. They are just the result of the best data available at this time. Find another axe to grind.
Posted By: smokeycabin

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 12/19/11 03:01 AM

Head to Head 9 to 11 months ago is not really what is going on now.
Posted By: Cokeley

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 12/19/11 03:18 AM

Originally Posted By: smokeycabin
Head to Head 9 to 11 months ago is not really what is going on now.


What do you have that is better? Your instinct? You are a LONG, LONG WAY from being a 106 pounder.
Posted By: smokeycabin

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 12/19/11 03:40 AM

What do you have that is better? Your instinct? You are a LONG, LONG WAY from being a 106 pounder.

Keep the insults coming you are a professional at that.
Posted By: Quagmire

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 12/19/11 03:45 AM

I think he's still an amateur. Last I heard no one has been paying him for it... yet.
Posted By: Chief Renegade

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 12/19/11 11:59 AM

Send me any results that may impact the rankings. Kramer is out of town!

Thanks!

- Chief
Posted By: wrestlingmom

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 12/19/11 12:04 PM

Can we keep Luke out of this discussion.

One thing I've learned about high school wrestling this time around is that there is way too much importance put on wins, losses and rankings in wrestling. Don't get me wrong, I still will be in the stands cheering loudly for Luke (and Aquinas), nervous as heck and I naturally want him to win, but it's just a wrestling match. Wrestling doesn't define who he is....

I'm much more concerned about his academic class rank...that opens college doors!
Posted By: Chief Renegade

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 12/19/11 12:14 PM

Richard,

With Kramer on vacation, I could sure use your help with results from the weekend!

Thanks!

- Chief
Posted By: HEADUP

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 12/19/11 12:31 PM

Well said Momma Henes!

These are Chiefs rankings so he can put whoever he wants where ever he wants. I think he does due diligence when he has all the info needed.

These rankings have NO merit on who is better on any given day. In the end there are just PAPER.

I think that if you asked 16 others from across the state to put in their input and had a "true" representation of the state, the ranking would be close to what they are now.

to be honest i would hate to have a "BSC" type ranking system. I am thankful that in wrestling a W is a W, and don't get confused in a popularity contest.

Smokey/ Chief both have good reasons why their favorite should be ranked higher. Both make some sense, both have some pretty thin arguments in my book. SOOOOOOOOOO why don't we settle it on the mat??? Chief vs. Smokey winner gets to rank 106 lb weight class. I will referee, and Cokeley can "grade" my abilities. I want Richard Salyer and Sportfan at the scores table. Let's do this on New Year's Day, 11am start, at a location TBD!
Posted By: smokeycabin

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 12/19/11 12:41 PM

HEADUP

How long are the periods? Any timeouts or rest periods?
Do we have to weighin in singlets? Greco, Freestyle and/or Folkstyle? I am in better shape for a game of cards.
Posted By: Chief Renegade

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 12/19/11 12:48 PM

Let's just race to ten on the pool table!
Posted By: wojo20

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 12/19/11 03:49 PM

I would like to say a couple of things here:

Skylar Olson is my son and is still deep in the learning curve being newer to wrestling. He has had some good matches beating Landon Scott (MV) last year and losing 3-2 to Logan Mueller this year. But he has lost some matches due to lack of experience and knoweldge.

With that stated, Luke Henes is a class act. He has been polite and humble. Mom Henes you should be proud. He has talked with both me and Skylar sharing his insights about wrestling and learning. He is a good kid and I know that Skylar respects him a lot. While wrestling doesn't define who is....what he does defines his character and he has deomonstrated nothing but excellent character.

Mr. Cokeley was very helpful to me last season when I was asking questions about wrestling and getting additional coaching for Skylar in the off-season. While I have not met Reece personally, I have seen him wreslte and he has a reputation of being a great kid.

Both kids have had to work their butts off to get where they are and I know that Skylar and I both have talked about what he needs to do to emulate these fine wrestlers. Rankings are awesome and can be both motivating and intimidating. At the end of the day to be viewed by other wrestlers as someone you would like to emulate should be worth much more than any ranking.

Hopefully the heat of rankings will simmer a bit so that we can truly enjoy the talent these two young men have and let them enjoy a sport that requires dedication, focus, sacrifice, and bearing.

I know Skylar and I both enjoy watching these guys wrestle and as representatives from Catholic schools I know others are watching and evaluating their character and those around them at all times.

One of the great things about this is that they are both great wrestlers and I am sure that they are both better because of each other. Having someone who pushes you is a good thing.

Congrats to both of them, good luck to both, and I know Skylar is working hard because they are too.
Posted By: Ex Heights Coach

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 12/19/11 03:53 PM

It is really a shame that individual parents have to supply results of school sponsored tournaments! Back in the day the host school had that responsibility and did it.

Emporia Invitational: 113 lbs.
1st: Aaron Freislinger- Washburn Rural
2nd: Jacob Wilgers- Maize
3rd: Jeremiah Jones- Pittsburg
4th: Garrett Whitson- Emporia
Posted By: Chief Renegade

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 12/19/11 04:46 PM

I posted the Emporia results on another thread.
Posted By: HEADUP

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 12/19/11 05:01 PM

Originally Posted By: smokeycabin
HEADUP
I am in better shape for a game of cards.

I would be OK with a game of cards. How about Slap Jack?
Posted By: HEADUP

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 12/19/11 05:09 PM

Originally Posted By: Chief Renegade
Let's just race to ten on the pool table!

Cards/ Billiards either way is better than bickering back and forth on this thread, then Cokeley gets involved??? Holy Heck I can't take it!
Posted By: Chief Renegade

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 12/19/11 05:35 PM

Originally Posted By: HEADUP
Originally Posted By: Chief Renegade
Let's just race to ten on the pool table!

Cards/ Billiards either way is better than bickering back and forth on this thread, then Cokeley gets involved??? Holy Heck I can't take it!



This is the exact thread to have those discussions. Both wrestlers had their parents chime in!
Posted By: HEADUP

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 12/19/11 07:40 PM

Originally Posted By: Chief Renegade
Originally Posted By: HEADUP
Originally Posted By: Chief Renegade
Let's just race to ten on the pool table!

Cards/ Billiards either way is better than bickering back and forth on this thread, then Cokeley gets involved??? Holy Heck I can't take it!



This is the exact thread to have those discussions. Both wrestlers had their parents chime in!


This may be the place, but we were getting NOWHERE fast! I was just trying to "lighten the mood". Neither one of you were really looking at the others point. Even the flawed BCS rankings look only at this year. Last year is history, BUT sometimes you gotta go with your gut and make an educated "guess"! LOL, if we left it up to the parents to decide...... I'll put my $$$ on Momma Henes over Cokeley, in Slap Jack, Billiards, or anything else you decide!
Posted By: Chief Renegade

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 12/19/11 08:06 PM

Your "last year is history" comment falls apart in seeding meetings. If a kid took 2nd at state vs. a kid that took 3rd at state and there was NO OTHER CURRENT YEAR CRITERIA, the runner-up is seeded higher!
Posted By: ReDPloyd

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 12/19/11 11:30 PM

Originally Posted By: wrestlingmom
Can we keep Luke out of this discussion.

One thing I've learned about high school wrestling this time around is that there is way too much importance put on wins, losses and rankings in wrestling. Don't get me wrong, I still will be in the stands cheering loudly for Luke (and Aquinas), nervous as heck and I naturally want him to win, but it's just a wrestling match. Wrestling doesn't define who he is....

I'm much more concerned about his academic class rank...that opens college doors!

Sharon,

My son is smarter than your son:-) Actually, you know that I think the world of your family. You do bring up a great point though. Some of these high school wrestlers, as good as they are, will be better served scoring good grades in the classroom than scoring points on the mat. Congrats to STA for winning the Johnson County Tournament.
Posted By: HEADUP

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 12/20/11 01:43 AM

Originally Posted By: Chief Renegade
Your "last year is history" comment falls apart in seeding meetings. If a kid took 2nd at state vs. a kid that took 3rd at state and there was NO OTHER CURRENT YEAR CRITERIA, the runner-up is seeded higher!


You still don't listen. I stated that sometimes you have to go with an educated guess. Trust me I am not taking sides. I pointed out the root of both arguments.

Smokey's answer to the question "who's the better wrestler today?" is the wrestler who is on a roll right now! last year is past tense.

When all else fails, you rely on the last possible thing to go to, which is last year's history. If that's your answer to the question "who's the better wrestler today?" that my friend is an educated guess.
Posted By: Chief Renegade

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 12/20/11 01:49 AM

Originally Posted By: HEADUP
Originally Posted By: Chief Renegade
Your "last year is history" comment falls apart in seeding meetings. If a kid took 2nd at state vs. a kid that took 3rd at state and there was NO OTHER CURRENT YEAR CRITERIA, the runner-up is seeded higher!


You still don't listen. I stated that sometimes you have to go with an educated guess. Trust me I am not taking sides. I pointed out the root of both arguments.

Smokey's answer to the question "who's the better wrestler today?" is the wrestler who is on a roll right now! last year is past tense.

When all else fails, you rely on the last possible thing to go to, which is last year's history. If that's your answer to the question "who's the better wrestler today?" that my friend is an educated guess.



I heard you both times. But instead of going with a gut feeling, you just read the numbers 2 vs. 3 at state last year and choose 2!
Posted By: Chief Renegade

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 12/20/11 01:52 AM

Thanks to all the coaches and Richard Salyer for posting results or sending them to me. I still plan to post the rankings tomorrow. They will not be on the KWCA site till Kramer returns, either Thursday or Friday.
Posted By: smokeycabin

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 12/20/11 10:52 AM

The InterMat and wrestlingreport D1 college rankings.
Quentin Wright and Kevin Steinhaus – These are some college rankings
Steinhaus (#8 in both rankings) has a head to head win this year over Wright (#5 or #4) depending what ranking you look at
Here is an example of a national champion from last year at the same weight He started the year ranked number 1 – now he has a couple of losses but not head to head losses with all the guys ranked above him. There are some “commons” from this year but not all “commons”. So it appears to me the ranker is looking at the body of work from this year also and who is on and who is off a little.
You would think Steinhaus with a head to head win over Wright would be ranked ahead of him. But Steinhaus has some other losses on the year even though he has a win over the defending national champion from the 2010/11 season.

SO TO MAKE A LONG STORY SHORT HEAD-TO-HEAD IS NOT USED IN MAKING A RANKING OR SNAP SHOT IN TIME AND/OR WHO IS WRESTLING WELL A PARTICULAR TIME OF THE YEAR.

One other important note Steinhaus losses this year are all to top 10 ranked guys.
Ben Bennet 1 point loss
Chris Perry 1 point loss
Steve Bosak


Quentin’s 2 losses this year are against
#1 Ranked Robert Hamlin - Lehigh
#8 Ranked Kevin Steinhaus Minnesota



RANK - Intermat
1) Robert Hamlin Lehigh
Junior
2) Chris Perry Oklahoma State
Sophomore
3) Joe LeBlanc Wyoming
Senior
4) Steve Bosak Cornell
Junior
5) Quentin Wright Penn State 7-2
Junior

Wrestlingreport D1 Ranking
184:
1) Robert Hamlin-Lehigh-Jr
2) Joe LeBlanc-Wyoming-Sr
3) Steve Bosak-Cornell-Sr
4) Quentin Wright-Penn State-Jr
5) Chris Perry-Oklahoma State-So
6) Ryan Loder-Northern Iowa-So
7) Ben Bennett-Central Michigan-Jr
8) Kevin Steinhaus-Minnesota-So

http://wrestlingreport.com/current_news/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=32550


So I think I have a little knowledge of the sport and by no means do I think I know it all.
But I do think it is important to pass this information on to the person who is ranking your kids from week to week. Again a ranking is a snap shot in time and who is wrestling well at that time of the year - and using the current data. If there were 5 kids all undefeated with wins over top ten guys they could all be tied for #1. That doesn't normally happen and we as students of the sport look at the scores of matches, pins, T-falls, shutouts, losses, etc.,


Posted By: Chief Renegade

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 12/20/11 11:18 AM

Good example and I appreciate the info.

As I've stated before, I am entirely impressed with the wrestler you are speaking of and in fact, have him ranked above a wrestler that beat him at state while not meeting him this year.

The Bobcat will probably shake a few things out.
Posted By: HEADUP

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 12/20/11 12:11 PM

Originally Posted By: Chief Renegade


I heard you both times. But instead of going with a gut feeling, you just read the numbers 2 vs. 3 at state last year and choose 2!


I didn't read or choose anything, these are YOUR rankings.
Posted By: S Biddle

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 12/20/11 12:11 PM

You need to give this a rest.
Posted By: Chief Renegade

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 12/20/11 12:38 PM

smile
Posted By: doug747

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 12/20/11 02:22 PM

My kid beat the #1 ranked kid at 138 when they were 9 years old, shouldn't that come into the equation somewhere here.......? I haven't slept since the last all class rankings came out, worrying about the fact that there were lots of people who didn't respect my kid enough. Every day I tell him "keep worrying about those rankings, boy, they are all that matter"
Posted By: HEADUP

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 12/20/11 04:57 PM

Originally Posted By: doug747
My kid beat the #1 ranked kid at 138 when they were 9 years old, shouldn't that come into the equation somewhere here.......? I haven't slept since the last all class rankings came out, worrying about the fact that there were lots of people who didn't respect my kid enough. Every day I tell him "keep worrying about those rankings, boy, they are all that matter"


wink
Posted By: jojo

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 12/20/11 06:24 PM

Originally Posted By: doug747
My kid beat the #1 ranked kid at 138 when they were 9 years old, shouldn't that come into the equation somewhere here.......? I haven't slept since the last all class rankings came out, worrying about the fact that there were lots of people who didn't respect my kid enough. Every day I tell him "keep worrying about those rankings, boy, they are all that matter"

Doug,I remember that match with Levi and Konnor. Levi definently deserves the #1 ranking at 138!! I thought he was heavier though. wink
Posted By: Dean Welsh

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 12/20/11 06:37 PM

Originally Posted By: doug747
My kid beat the #1 ranked kid at 138 when they were 9 years old, shouldn't that come into the equation somewhere here.......? I haven't slept since the last all class rankings came out, worrying about the fact that there were lots of people who didn't respect my kid enough. Every day I tell him "keep worrying about those rankings, boy, they are all that matter"



ROTFL!!! Thanks I needed that! grin
Posted By: Chief Renegade

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 12/20/11 07:45 PM

All-Class update due out TOMORROW!
Posted By: doug747

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 12/20/11 09:40 PM

Actually he is wrestling up 4 weight classes so Konnor doesn't get a chance to get even!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted By: jojo

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 12/20/11 10:10 PM

Originally Posted By: doug747
Actually he is wrestling up 4 weight classes so Konnor doesn't get a chance to get even!!!!!!!!!!!!!



grin
Posted By: Chief Renegade

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 12/21/11 01:14 PM

TEAM RANKINGS:

1. Lawrence - 6A
2. Newton - 5A
3. St. Thomas Aquinas - 5A
4. Andale - 4A
5. Arkansas City - 5A
6. Andover Central - 5A
7. Manhattan - 6A
8. Garden City - 6A
9. Derby - 6A
10. Bonner Springs - 4A


106:
1. Dakota Leach - 11 - GD - 5A - 14-0
2. Reese Cokeley - 10 - SJA - 4A - 16-3
3. Bryce Morgan - 11 - ELD - 4A - 7-0
4. Luke Henes - 10 - STA - 5A - 15-0
5. Trey Francka - 11 - CCO - 321A
6. Jase Stone - 11 - MH - 6A - 16-3
7. Tristan Star - 9 - LAW - 6A
8. Jake Goldenstein - 9 - AUG - 4A - 9-0
9. Parker Howell - 10 - KMC - 5A - 10-1
10. Logan Terrill - 9 - ARK - 5A


113:
1. Zac Gentzler - 11 - AC - 5A - 12-0
2. Javier Vieyra - 12 - SS - 5A
3. Zak Hensley - 9 - SJA - 4A - 14-3
4. Tyler Mies - 10 - AN - 4A - 11-1
5. Jason Perez - 12 - ULY - 4A
6. Hunter Price - 11 - HOL - 4A
7. Michael Lindlar - 11 - WNW - 6A
8. John Risewick - 11 - NOR - 321A
9. Adam Cole - 9 - CH - 4A
10. Alex Garcia - 12 - DC - 6A

120:
1. Isaac Dulgarian - 9 - STA - 5A - 14-0
2. Dustin Reed - 11 - CLB - 4A
3. Anthony Calderon - 12 - GC - 6A - 10-1
4. Tim Prescott - 12 - MCP - 4A - 8-0
5. Chris Burley - 11 - GB - 5A - 11-1
6. Quinton Harrison - 11 - NEW - 5A - 8-1
7. Jared Suppes - 11 - DB - 6A - 8-2
8. Kevin Arnhold - 12 - HAY - 5A
9. Ty Kolterman - 12 - CC - 4A
10. Ben Lightfoot - 11 - AC - 5A

126:
1. Austin Hood - 12 - LOU - 4A - 8-0
2. Dylan Schumacher - 12 - TMP - 321A - 3-0
3. Bryce Shoemaker - 11 - BAL - 4A
4. TJ Stokes - 12 - GE - 5A - 10-2
5. Hunter Haralson - 11 - LAW - 6A - 12-2
6. Michael Olsen - 10 - LS - 5A - 13-3
7. Colby Watters - 12 - ARK - 5A
8. Lukas Maki - 11 - KMC - 5A
9. Alex Wolf - 12 - SV - 4A
10. Taelor Mendenhall - 12 - CON - 4A

132:
1. Bo Pursel - 12 - LS - 5A - 14-0
2. Cody Eastman - 11 - ARK - 5A
3. Clay Mulligan - 12 - SC - 321A
4. Austin Hughey - 11 - ELD - 4A - 8-0
5. Jacob Durosette - 10 - FS - 4A
6. Ben Randolph - 12 - SME - 6A - 15-2
7. Anthony Monares - 11 - NEW - 5A - 10-0
8. Shane Goetz - 12 - HUT - 6A
9. Kasey Biddle - 11 - CB - 321A - 8-0
10t. Thatcher Murdoch - 12 - PAR - 4A
10t. Kyle Miller - 11 - BUH - 4A

138:
1. Konnor Kriss - 12 - CLB - 4A
2. Brandon Charbonneau - 12 - EMP - 5A - 11-0
3. Brogan Humphrey - 10 - FRE - 321A
4. Calvin Ochs - 11 - HOX - 321A
5. Victor Hughes - 11 - FS - 4A - 17-0
6. Reis Humphrey - 11 - SMS - 6A - 12-1
7. Brady Heincker - 12 - DB - 6A
8. Tommy Williams - 12 - STA - 5A - 18-1
9. Jake Gehring - 11 - BUH - 4A
10. Andrew Millsap - 10 - JC - 9-1

145:
1. Tagen Lambotte - 10 - ROS - 321A - 8-0
2. Jonathan Blackwell - 11 - BS - 4A
3. Aaron Seybold - 12 - PT - 4A - 13-1
4. Dustin Williams - 10 - GE - 6A - 19-2
5. Miles Johns - 12 - NEW - 5A - 11-0
6. Lincoln Lemon - 12 - GD - 5A - 14-2
7. Ben Becker - 12 - DB - 6A
8. Alex Thibault - 11 - HAL - 321A
9. Devon Dozier - 11 - OZ - 4A
10. Gage Younger - 11 - ELL - 321A - 7-0

152:
1. Alex Bontz - 12 - AC - 5A - 10-0
2. Rusty Yarrow - 12 - CC - 4A
3. Ky Biddle - 12 - CB - 321A - 9-0
4. Mark Hobson - 12 - BS - 4A
5. Rory Haug - 12 - ON - 6A - 8-0
6. Dalton Snyder - 12 - HOX - 321A
7. Kyle Armstrong - 11 - AN - 4A
8. Mark Smith - 12 - ROS - 321A
9. Patrick Weaver - 11 - HUG - 4A
10. Tyler Kimple - 12 - GD - 5A - 14-2

160:
1. Conner Middleton - 12 - ONW - 6A - 16-1
2. Sam Son - 12 - CH - 4A
3. Colton Duhr - 12 - AN - 4A - 11-0
4. Trey Dice - 12 - ARK - 5A
5. Gavin Grater - 10 - CC - 4A
6. Bryant Guillen - 11 - SEA - 5A - 4-0
7. Jacob Eggers - 12 - DC - 6A
8. Aaron Puckett - 11 - BS - 4A
9. Blake Hill - 12 - SME - 6A - 10-3
10. Kolby Fennewald - 11 - MUL - 4A - 13-1

170:
1. Matt Reed - 12 - WH - 6A
2. Levi Eck - 11 - AN - 4A - 13-1
3. Blaine Hill - 12 - SME - 6A - 10-1
4. Preston Wiegel - 10 - HAY - 5A
5. Nick Pursel - 12 - LAW - 6A - 14-0
6. Jesse LeMay - 12 - WEL - 321A
7. Brian Wood - 12 - MH - 6A - 15-3
8. Tanner Gardner - 12 - CLW - 4A
9. Harrison Gilliland - 11 - PL - 321A
10. Aaron Cool - 12 - SEA - 5A

182:
1. Reece Wright-Conklin - 12 - LAW - 6A - 11-0
2. Spencer Wilson - 11 - LFS - 6A - 7-0
3. Hunter Weddington - 12 - AND - 5A
4. Nick Meck - 11 - SH - 5A
5. Kane Kelly - 12 - AB - 4A
6. Tyler Lowe - 12 - EUR - 321A - 6-1
7. Brock Long - 12 - SES - 321A - 11-1
8. Brent Koehn - 12 - PT - 4A - 6-2
9. Tyler Higgins - 12 - IKE - 5A - 8-0
10. Cole Cannon - 12 - DS - 4A - 15-1

195:
1. Colt Castlebury - 12 - DOU - 321A - 11-0
2. Dillon Archer - 11 - NEW - 5A - 7-0
3. Ulyesses DeShazer - 12 - WH - 6A
4. Darien Willis - 12 - SUM - 4A
5. Litton VanDerWerff - 12 - LS - 5A - 12-1
6. Taylor Krier - 12 - MCP - 4A - 6-2
7. Ty Suggs - 12 - MH - 6A - 11-1
8. Alex Stockton - 12 - GE - 6A - 21-1
9. Eastin Dockers - 12 - RH - 4A
10. Shawn Marlatt - 12 - DB - 6A - 8-2

220:
1. Luke Bean - 12 - KMC - 5A
2. Nathan Butler - 11 - LV - 6A
3. Colten Lissolo - 12 - HUG - 4A
4. Riley Oharah - 12 - GDL - 321A - 8-0
5. Cash Drylie - 12 - HAY - 5A
6. Edward Fitzgerald - 12 - SFT - 4A
7. Jordan Brown - 12 - CON - 4A - 13-1
8. Tyler Keller - 12 - WNW - 6A
9. Colton Bonner - 12 - BAL - 4A
10. Brad Wilson - 12 - LAW - 6A - 11-2

285:
1. Will Geary - 11 - TOP - 6A - 11-0
2. Eric Mason - 12 - STA - 5A - 18-1
3. Zach Callahan - 12 - MV - 5A - 18-2
4. Tylor Woodruff - 12 - GD - 5A
5. Luke Hayes - 12 - SC - 321A
6. Zach Lanning - 12 - MCP - 4A - 5-1
7. Broc Bennett - 12 - PT - 4A - 11-3
8. Aaron Rafalko - 11 - JC - 6A
9. Tarez Griffen - 12 - WNW - 6A
10. Clay Wilcox - 11 - CHP - 321A - 5-1
Posted By: lakemats

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 12/21/11 01:20 PM

106 Francka from 1st to out of the top ten. That one loss really hurt?
Posted By: Chief Renegade

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 12/21/11 02:06 PM

Originally Posted By: lakemats
106 Francka from 1st to out of the top ten. That one loss really hurt?


He is #5.
Posted By: N. Broeckelman

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 12/21/11 02:42 PM

Brian Wood of Manhattan is ranked twice at 170
Posted By: Ricky Bobby

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 12/21/11 02:58 PM

At 132:
Brendan Lewis of Larned lost to Miller from Andale at the Pratt Tournament during the semis. Miller from Andale then I believe defaulted to Kyle Miller of Buhler in the finals. The simple fix is to just leave Kyle Miller as your only #10 wrestler rather than have a tie. In the words of the great Paul "Bear" Bryant "a tie is like kissing your sister."
Posted By: Chief Renegade

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 12/21/11 03:19 PM

Got it. Thanks!
Posted By: Butch Drylie

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 12/21/11 03:44 PM

At 220 on Saturday at the Royal Valley Tounament Cash Drylie was ahead 11-2 when he pinned Ed Fitzgerald.


Butch Drylie
785-650-4404
Posted By: Chief Renegade

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 12/21/11 03:47 PM

TEAM RANKINGS:

1. Lawrence - 6A
2. Newton - 5A
3. St. Thomas Aquinas - 5A
4. Andale - 4A
5. Arkansas City - 5A
6. Andover Central - 5A
7. Manhattan - 6A
8. Garden City - 6A
9. Derby - 6A
10. St. James Academy - 4A


106:
1. Dakota Leach - 11 - GD - 5A - 14-0
2. Reese Cokeley - 10 - SJA - 4A - 16-3
3. Bryce Morgan - 11 - ELD - 4A - 7-0
4. Luke Henes - 10 - STA - 5A - 15-0
5. Trey Francka - 11 - CCO - 321A
6. Jase Stone - 11 - MH - 6A - 16-3
7. Tristan Star - 9 - LAW - 6A
8. Jake Goldenstein - 9 - AUG - 4A - 9-0
9. Parker Howell - 10 - KMC - 5A - 10-1
10. Logan Terrill - 9 - ARK - 5A


113:
1. Zac Gentzler - 11 - AC - 5A - 12-0
2. Javier Vieyra - 12 - SS - 5A
3. Zak Hensley - 9 - SJA - 4A - 14-3
4. Tyler Mies - 10 - AN - 4A - 11-1
5. Jason Perez - 12 - ULY - 4A
6. Hunter Price - 11 - HOL - 4A
7. Michael Lindlar - 11 - WNW - 6A
8. John Risewick - 11 - NOR - 321A
9. Adam Cole - 9 - CH - 4A
10. Alex Garcia - 12 - DC - 6A

120:
1. Isaac Dulgarian - 9 - STA - 5A - 14-0
2. Dustin Reed - 11 - CLB - 4A
3. Anthony Calderon - 12 - GC - 6A - 10-1
4. Tim Prescott - 12 - MCP - 4A - 8-0
5. Chris Burley - 11 - GB - 5A - 11-1
6. Quinton Harrison - 11 - NEW - 5A - 8-1
7. Jared Suppes - 11 - DB - 6A - 8-2
8. Kevin Arnhold - 12 - HAY - 5A
9. Ty Kolterman - 12 - CC - 4A
10. Ben Lightfoot - 11 - AC - 5A

126:
1. Austin Hood - 12 - LOU - 4A - 8-0
2. Dylan Schumacher - 12 - TMP - 321A - 3-0
3. Bryce Shoemaker - 11 - BAL - 4A
4. TJ Stokes - 12 - GE - 5A - 10-2
5. Hunter Haralson - 11 - LAW - 6A - 12-2
6. Michael Olsen - 10 - LS - 5A - 13-3
7. Colby Watters - 12 - ARK - 5A
8. Lukas Maki - 11 - KMC - 5A
9. Alex Wolf - 12 - SV - 4A
10. Taelor Mendenhall - 12 - CON - 4A

132:
1. Bo Pursel - 12 - LS - 5A - 14-0
2. Cody Eastman - 11 - ARK - 5A
3. Clay Mulligan - 12 - SC - 321A
4. Austin Hughey - 11 - ELD - 4A - 8-0
5. Jacob Durosette - 10 - FS - 4A
6. Ben Randolph - 12 - SME - 6A - 15-2
7. Anthony Monares - 11 - NEW - 5A - 10-0
8. Shane Goetz - 12 - HUT - 6A
9. Kasey Biddle - 11 - CB - 321A - 8-0
10t. Thatcher Murdoch - 12 - PAR - 4A
10t. Kyle Miller - 11 - BUH - 4A

138:
1. Konnor Kriss - 12 - CLB - 4A
2. Brandon Charbonneau - 12 - EMP - 5A - 11-0
3. Brogan Humphrey - 10 - FRE - 321A
4. Calvin Ochs - 11 - HOX - 321A
5. Victor Hughes - 11 - FS - 4A - 17-0
6. Reis Humphrey - 11 - SMS - 6A - 12-1
7. Brady Heincker - 12 - DB - 6A
8. Tommy Williams - 12 - STA - 5A - 18-1
9. Jake Gehring - 11 - BUH - 4A
10. Andrew Millsap - 10 - JC - 9-1

145:
1. Tagen Lambotte - 10 - ROS - 321A - 8-0
2. Jonathan Blackwell - 11 - BS - 4A - 13-0
3. Aaron Seybold - 12 - PT - 4A - 13-1
4. Dustin Williams - 10 - GE - 6A - 19-2
5. Miles Johns - 12 - NEW - 5A - 11-0
6. Lincoln Lemon - 12 - GD - 5A - 14-2
7. Ben Becker - 12 - DB - 6A
8. Alex Thibault - 11 - HAL - 321A
9. Devon Dozier - 11 - OZ - 4A
10. Gage Younger - 11 - ELL - 321A - 7-0

152:
1. Alex Bontz - 12 - AC - 5A - 10-0
2. Rusty Yarrow - 12 - CC - 4A
3. Ky Biddle - 12 - CB - 321A - 9-0
4. Mark Hobson - 12 - BS - 4A - 12-1
5. Rory Haug - 12 - ON - 6A - 8-0
6. Dalton Snyder - 12 - HOX - 321A
7. Kyle Armstrong - 11 - AN - 4A
8. Mark Smith - 12 - ROS - 321A
9. Patrick Weaver - 11 - HUG - 4A
10. Tyler Kimple - 12 - GD - 5A - 14-2

160:
1t. Conner Middleton - 12 - ONW - 6A - 16-1
1t. Sam Son - 12 - CH - 4A
3. Colton Duhr - 12 - AN - 4A - 11-0
4. Trey Dice - 12 - ARK - 5A
5. Gavin Grater - 10 - CC - 4A
6. Bryant Guillen - 11 - SEA - 5A - 4-0
7. Jacob Eggers - 12 - DC - 6A
8. Aaron Puckett - 11 - BS - 4A - 12-1
9. Blake Hill - 12 - SME - 6A - 10-3
10. Kolby Fennewald - 11 - MUL - 4A - 13-1

170:
1. Matt Reed - 12 - WH - 6A
2. Levi Eck - 11 - AN - 4A - 13-1
3. Blaine Hill - 12 - SME - 6A - 10-1
4. Preston Wiegel - 10 - HAY - 5A
5. Nick Pursel - 12 - LAW - 6A - 14-0
6. Jesse LeMay - 12 - WEL - 321A
7. Brian Wood - 12 - MH - 6A - 15-3
8. Tanner Gardner - 12 - CLW - 4A
9. Harrison Gilliland - 11 - PL - 321A
10. Aaron Cool - 12 - SEA - 5A

182:
1. Reece Wright-Conklin - 12 - LAW - 6A - 11-0
2. Spencer Wilson - 11 - LFS - 6A - 7-0
3. Hunter Weddington - 12 - AND - 5A
4. Nick Meck - 11 - SH - 5A
5. Kane Kelly - 12 - AB - 4A
6. Tyler Lowe - 12 - EUR - 321A - 6-1
7. Brock Long - 12 - SES - 321A - 11-1
8. Brent Koehn - 12 - PT - 4A - 6-2
9. Tyler Higgins - 12 - IKE - 5A - 8-0
10. Cole Cannon - 12 - DS - 4A - 15-1

195:
1. Colt Castlebury - 12 - DOU - 321A - 11-0
2. Dillon Archer - 11 - NEW - 5A - 7-0
3. Ulyesses DeShazer - 12 - WH - 6A
4. Darien Willis - 12 - SUM - 4A
5. Litton VanDerWerff - 12 - LS - 5A - 12-1
6. Taylor Krier - 12 - MCP - 4A - 6-2
7. Ty Suggs - 12 - MH - 6A - 11-1
8. Alex Stockton - 12 - GE - 6A - 21-1
9. Eastin Dockers - 12 - RH - 4A
10. Shawn Marlatt - 12 - DB - 6A - 8-2

220:
1. Luke Bean - 12 - KMC - 5A
2. Nathan Butler - 11 - LV - 6A
3. Colten Lissolo - 12 - HUG - 4A
4. Riley Oharah - 12 - GDL - 321A - 8-0
5. Cash Drylie - 12 - HAY - 5A
6. Edward Fitzgerald - 12 - SFT - 4A
7. Jordan Brown - 12 - CON - 4A - 13-1
8. Tyler Keller - 12 - WNW - 6A
9. Tanner Taylor - 12 - BUR - 321A
10. Colton Bonner - 12 - BAL - 4A

285:
1. Will Geary - 11 - TOP - 6A - 11-0
2. Eric Mason - 12 - STA - 5A - 18-1
3. Zach Callahan - 12 - MV - 5A - 18-2
4. Tylor Woodruff - 12 - GD - 5A
5. Luke Hayes - 12 - SC - 321A
6. Zach Lanning - 12 - MCP - 4A - 5-1
7. Broc Bennett - 12 - PT - 4A - 11-3
8. Aaron Rafalko - 11 - JC - 6A
9. Tarez Griffen - 12 - WNW - 6A
10. Clay Wilcox - 11 - CHP - 321A - 5-1
Posted By: Beeson

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 12/21/11 05:21 PM

laugh laugh laugh Everytime Im having a bad day I come to the All-Class Rankings and get a GREAT LAUGH...Thanks Chief. grin laugh wink
Posted By: Chief Renegade

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 12/21/11 05:25 PM

Originally Posted By: Beeson
laugh laugh laugh Everytime Im having a bad day I come to the All-Class Rankings and get a GREAT LAUGH...Thanks Chief. grin laugh wink


Solid criteria.
Posted By: Pittpepa

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 12/21/11 11:44 PM

He's back frown Will Beeson start another nonsensical narrative on this forum?! Stay tuned...
Posted By: Beeson

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 12/22/11 12:24 AM

TEAM RANKINGS:

1. Andale - 4A
2. Lawrence - 6A
3. Andover Central - 5A
4. Arkansas City - 5A
5. St. Thomas Aquinas - 5A
6. Garden City - 6A
7. Wichita Heights - 6A
8. Pittsburg - 4A
9. Bonner Springs - 4A
10. Derby - 6A


106:
1. Parker Howell - 10 - KMC - 5A
2. Trey Francka - 11 - CCO - 321A
3. Jase Stone - 11 - MH - 6A
4. Dakota Leach - 11 - GD - 5A
5. Bryce Morgan - 11 - ELD - 4A
6. Tevin Briscoe - 9 - GC - 6A
7. Adam Cole - 9 - CH - 4A
8. Sean DeShazer - 9 - WH - 6A
9. Josh Goepfert - 11 - MRV - 321A
10. Dylan Eck - 9 - AN - 4A

113:
1. Zac Gentzler - 11 - AC - 5A
2. Jason Perez - 12 - ULY - 4A
3. Anthony Calderon - 12 - GC - 6A
4. Tyler Mies - 10 - AN - 4A
5. Kevin Perez - 11 - JC - 6A
6. Hunter Price - 11 - HOL - 4A
7. Jr. Morgan - 11 - AB - 4A
8. Alex Garcia - 12 - DC - 6A
9. John Risewick - 11 - NOR - 321A
10. Reese Cokeley - 10 - SJA - 4A

120:
1. Javier Vieyra - 12 - SS - 5A
2. Isaac Dulgarian - 9 - STA - 5A
3. Michael Olsen - 10 - LS - 5A
4. Dustin Reed - 11 - CLB - 4A
5. Chris Burley - 11 - GB - 5A
6. Alex Wolf - 12 - SV - 4A
7. Quinton Harrison - 11 - NEW - 5A
8. Corey Spader - 11 - SPH - 4A
9. Clayton Himple - 10 - TG - 4A
10. Ty Kolterman - 12 - CC - 4A

126:
1. Austin Hood - 12 - LOU - 4A
2. Dylan Schumacher - 12 - TMP - 321A
3. Bryce Shoemaker - 11 - BAL - 4A
4. Tim Prescott - 12 - MCP - 4A
5. Lukas Maki - 11 - KMC - 5A
6. Hunter Haralson - 11 - LAW - 6A
7. Jacob Parise - 12 - BVW - 6A
8. Tyler Dickman - 10 - MV - 5A
9. Taelor Mendenhall - 12 - CON - 4A
10. Aaron Engels - 12 - AN - 4A

132:
1. Bo Pursel - 12 - LS - 5A
2. TJ Stokes - 12 - GE - 6A
3. Brogan Humphrey - 10 - FRE - 321A
4. Cody Eastman - 11 - ARK - 5A
5. Clay Mulligan - 12 - SC - 321A
6. Andrew Morgan - 12 - BAL - 4A
7. Riley Soward - 12 - HAL - 321A
8. Garrett McEachern - 11 - NEW - 5A
9. Jared Fiscus - 11 - CH - 4A
10. Gage Younger - 11 - ELL - 321A

138:
1. Konnor Kriss - 12 - CLB - 4A
2. Miles Johns - 12 - NEW - 5A
3. Brandon Charbonneau - 12 - EMP - 5A
4. Colby Watters - 12 - ARK - 5A
5. Zach Dremel - 12 - OS - 6A
6. Tommy Williams - 12 - STA - 5A
7. Devon Dozier - 11 - OZ - 4A
8. Luke Lee - 12 - AC - 5A
9. Reis Humphrey - 11 - SMS - 6A
10. Brady Heincker - 12 - DB - 6A

145:
1. Tagen Lambotte - 10 - ROS - 321A
2. Aaron Seybold - 12 - PT - 4A
3. Jonathan Blackwell - 11 - BS - 4A
4. Dustin Williams - 10 - GE - 6A
5. Ky Biddle - 12 - CB - 321A
6. Calvin Ochs - 11 - HOX - 321A
7. Chase Locke - 12 - MZ - 6A
8. Lincoln Lemon - 12 - GD - 5A
9. Alex Thibault - 11 - HAL - 321A
10. Patrick Weaver - 11 - HUG - 4A

152:
1. Connor Middleton - 12 - ONW - 6A
2. Alex Bontz - 12 - AC - 5A
3. Aaron Puckett - 11 - BS - 4A
4. Tyler McMichael - 12 - ARK - 5A
5. Andrew Denning - 11 - LAW - 6A
6. Dalton Snyder - 12 - HOX - 321A
7. Trevor Cox - 12 - MZ - 6A
8. Rusty Yarrow - 12 - CC - 4A
9. Kyle Armstrong - 11 - AN - 4A
10. Jared Johnson - 11 - PR - 321A

160:
1. Sam Son - 12 - CH - 4A
2. Colton Duhr - 12 - AN - 4A
3. Gavin Grater - 10 - CC - 4A
4. Mark Hobson - 12 - BS - 4A
5. Jacob Eggers - 12 - DC - 6A
6. Rory Haug - 12 - ON - 6A
7. Bryant Guillen - 11 - SEA - 5A
8. Trey Dice - 12 - ARK - 5A
9. Jon Heiman - 12 - GC - 6A
10. Tyler Willis - 12 - SH - 5A

170:
1. Matt Reed - 12 - WH - 6A
2. Blaine Hill - 12 - SME - 6A
3. Levi Eck - 11 - AN - 4A
4. Preston Wiegel - 10 - HAY - 5A
5. Kane Kelly - 12 - AB - 4A
6. Brent Koehn - 12 - PT - 4A
7. Jesse LeMay - 12 - WEL - 321A
8. Brian Wood - 12 - MH - 6A
9. Tyler Henness - 12 - PAO - 4A
10t. Tanner O'Donnell - 12 - SS - 5A
10t. Tanner Gardner - 12 - CLW - 4A

182:
1. Reece Wright-Conklin - 12 - LAW - 6A
2. Brock Long - 12 - SES - 321A
3. Spencer Wilson - 11 - LFS - 6A
4. Ulyesses DeShazer - 12 - WH - 6A
5. Tyler Higgins - 12 - IKE - 5A
6. Hunter Weddington - 12 - AND - 5A
7. Nick Meck - 11 - SH - 5A
8. Riley Denny - 11 - CV - 321A
9. Hugh McConnell - 12 - NEW - 5A
10. Trey Campbell - 12 - MH - 6A

195:
1. Shawn Marlatt - 12 - DB - 6A
2. Colt Castlebury - 12 - DOU - 321A
3. Darien Willis - 12 - SUM - 4A
4. Tyler Lowe - 12 - EUR - 321A
5. Ty Suggs - 12 - MH - 6A
6. Litton VanDerWerff - 12 - LS - 5A
7. Dillon Archer - 11 - NEW - 5A
8. Brady Munsch - 12 - SS - 5A
9. Nate Stanley - 11 - SEA - 5A
10. Caleb Frankin - 10 - WN - 6A

220:
1. Luke Bean - 12 - KMC - 5A
2. Nathan Butler - 11 - LV - 6A
3. Colton Lissolo - 12 - HUG - 4A
4. Cash Drylie - 12 - HAY - 5A
5. Jacob English - 12 - BEL - 321A
6. Edward Fitzgerald - 12 - SFT - 4A
7. Jordan Brown - 12 - CON - 4A
8. Tyler Keller - 12 - WNW - 6A
9. Myron Tipton - 12 - OE - 6A
10. Tanner Taylor - 12 - BUR - 321A

285:
1. Will Geary - 11 - TOP - 6A
2. Eric Mason - 12 - STA - 5A
3. Tylor Woodruff - 12 - GD - 5A
4. Luke Hayes - 12 - SC - 321A
5. Clay Wilcox - 11 - CHP - 321A
6. Zach Callahan - 12 - MV - 5A
7. Taylor Krier - 12 - MCP - 4A
8. Broc Bennett - 12 - PT - 5A
9. Hayden Chandler - 12 - DS - 4A
10. Joe Pomatto - 11 - PAO - 4A


Compare the first Rankings with The Last. That is my Criteria for laughing.
Posted By: Chief Renegade

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 12/22/11 01:10 AM

7 of the top 10 teams are the same. Man, I almost nailed it!

And 11 out of 14 #1's the same. Dang...
Posted By: Chief Renegade

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 12/22/11 01:47 AM

TEAM RANKINGS:

1. Lawrence - 6A
2. Newton - 5A
3. St. Thomas Aquinas - 5A
4. Andale - 4A
5. Arkansas City - 5A
6. Andover Central - 5A
7. Manhattan - 6A
8. Garden City - 6A
9. Derby - 6A
10. St. James Academy - 4A


106:
1. Dakota Leach - 11 - GD - 5A - 14-0
2. Reese Cokeley - 10 - SJA - 4A - 16-3
3. Bryce Morgan - 11 - ELD - 4A - 7-0
4. Luke Henes - 10 - STA - 5A - 15-0
5. Trey Francka - 11 - CCO - 321A
6. Jase Stone - 11 - MH - 6A - 16-3
7. Tristan Star - 9 - LAW - 6A
8. Jake Goldenstein - 9 - AUG - 4A - 9-0
9. Parker Howell - 10 - KMC - 5A - 10-1
10. Logan Terrill - 9 - ARK - 5A


113:
1. Zac Gentzler - 11 - AC - 5A - 12-0
2. Javier Vieyra - 12 - SS - 5A
3. Zak Hensley - 9 - SJA - 4A - 14-3
4. Tyler Mies - 10 - AN - 4A - 11-1
5. Jason Perez - 12 - ULY - 4A
6. Hunter Price - 11 - HOL - 4A
7. Michael Lindlar - 11 - WNW - 6A
8. John Risewick - 11 - NOR - 321A
9. Adam Cole - 9 - CH - 4A
10. Alex Garcia - 12 - DC - 6A

120:
1. Isaac Dulgarian - 9 - STA - 5A - 14-0
2. Dustin Reed - 11 - CLB - 4A
3. Anthony Calderon - 12 - GC - 6A - 10-1
4. Tim Prescott - 12 - MCP - 4A - 8-0
5. Chris Burley - 11 - GB - 5A - 11-1
6. Quinton Harrison - 11 - NEW - 5A - 8-1
7. Jared Suppes - 11 - DB - 6A - 8-3
8. Kevin Arnhold - 12 - HAY - 5A
9. Ty Kolterman - 12 - CC - 4A
10. Ben Lightfoot - 11 - AC - 5A

126:
1. Austin Hood - 12 - LOU - 4A - 8-0
2. Dylan Schumacher - 12 - TMP - 321A - 3-0
3. Bryce Shoemaker - 11 - BAL - 4A
4. TJ Stokes - 12 - GE - 5A - 10-2
5. Hunter Haralson - 11 - LAW - 6A - 12-2
6. Michael Olsen - 10 - LS - 5A - 13-3
7. Colby Watters - 12 - ARK - 5A
8. Lukas Maki - 11 - KMC - 5A
9. Alex Wolf - 12 - SV - 4A
10. Taelor Mendenhall - 12 - CON - 4A

132:
1. Bo Pursel - 12 - LS - 5A - 14-0
2. Cody Eastman - 11 - ARK - 5A
3. Clay Mulligan - 12 - SC - 321A
4. Austin Hughey - 11 - ELD - 4A - 8-0
5. Jacob Durosette - 10 - FS - 4A
6. Ben Randolph - 12 - SME - 6A - 15-2
7. Anthony Monares - 11 - NEW - 5A - 10-0
8. Shane Goetz - 12 - HUT - 6A
9. Kasey Biddle - 11 - CB - 321A - 8-0
10t. Thatcher Murdoch - 12 - PAR - 4A
10t. Kyle Miller - 11 - BUH - 4A

138:
1. Konnor Kriss - 12 - CLB - 4A
2. Brandon Charbonneau - 12 - EMP - 5A - 11-0
3. Brogan Humphrey - 10 - FRE - 321A
4. Calvin Ochs - 11 - HOX - 321A
5. Victor Hughes - 11 - FS - 4A - 17-0
6. Reis Humphrey - 11 - SMS - 6A - 12-1
7. Brady Heincker - 12 - DB - 6A - 12-0
8. Tommy Williams - 12 - STA - 5A - 18-1
9. Jake Gehring - 11 - BUH - 4A
10. Andrew Millsap - 10 - JC - 9-1

145:
1. Tagen Lambotte - 10 - ROS - 321A - 8-0
2. Jonathan Blackwell - 11 - BS - 4A - 13-0
3. Aaron Seybold - 12 - PT - 4A - 13-1
4. Dustin Williams - 10 - GE - 6A - 19-2
5. Miles Johns - 12 - NEW - 5A - 11-0
6. Lincoln Lemon - 12 - GD - 5A - 14-2
7. Ben Becker - 12 - DB - 6A - 8-3
8. Alex Thibault - 11 - HAL - 321A
9. Devon Dozier - 11 - OZ - 4A
10. Gage Younger - 11 - ELL - 321A - 7-0

152:
1. Alex Bontz - 12 - AC - 5A - 10-0
2. Rusty Yarrow - 12 - CC - 4A
3. Ky Biddle - 12 - CB - 321A - 9-0
4. Mark Hobson - 12 - BS - 4A - 12-1
5. Rory Haug - 12 - ON - 6A - 8-0
6. Dalton Snyder - 12 - HOX - 321A
7. Kyle Armstrong - 11 - AN - 4A
8. Mark Smith - 12 - ROS - 321A
9. Patrick Weaver - 11 - HUG - 4A
10. Tyler Kimple - 12 - GD - 5A - 14-2

160:
1t. Conner Middleton - 12 - ONW - 6A - 16-1
1t. Sam Son - 12 - CH - 4A
3. Colton Duhr - 12 - AN - 4A - 11-0
4. Trey Dice - 12 - ARK - 5A
5. Gavin Grater - 10 - CC - 4A
6. Bryant Guillen - 11 - SEA - 5A - 4-0
7. Jacob Eggers - 12 - DC - 6A
8. Aaron Puckett - 11 - BS - 4A - 12-1
9. Blake Hill - 12 - SME - 6A - 10-3
10. Kolby Fennewald - 11 - MUL - 4A - 13-1

170:
1. Matt Reed - 12 - WH - 6A
2. Levi Eck - 11 - AN - 4A - 13-1
3. Blaine Hill - 12 - SME - 6A - 10-1
4. Preston Wiegel - 10 - HAY - 5A
5. Nick Pursel - 12 - LAW - 6A - 14-0
6. Jesse LeMay - 12 - WEL - 321A
7. Brian Wood - 12 - MH - 6A - 15-3
8. Tanner Gardner - 12 - CLW - 4A
9. Harrison Gilliland - 11 - PL - 321A
10. Aaron Cool - 12 - SEA - 5A

182:
1. Reece Wright-Conklin - 12 - LAW - 6A - 11-0
2. Spencer Wilson - 11 - LFS - 6A - 7-0
3. Hunter Weddington - 12 - AND - 5A
4. Nick Meck - 11 - SH - 5A
5. Kane Kelly - 12 - AB - 4A
6. Tyler Lowe - 12 - EUR - 321A - 6-1
7. Brock Long - 12 - SES - 321A - 11-1
8. Brent Koehn - 12 - PT - 4A - 6-2
9. Tyler Higgins - 12 - IKE - 5A - 8-0
10. Cole Cannon - 12 - DS - 4A - 15-1

195:
1. Colt Castlebury - 12 - DOU - 321A - 11-0
2. Dillon Archer - 11 - NEW - 5A - 7-0
3. Ulyesses DeShazer - 12 - WH - 6A
4. Darien Willis - 12 - SUM - 4A
5. Litton VanDerWerff - 12 - LS - 5A - 12-1
6. Taylor Krier - 12 - MCP - 4A - 6-2
7. Ty Suggs - 12 - MH - 6A - 11-1
8. Alex Stockton - 12 - GE - 6A - 21-1
9. Eastin Dockers - 12 - RH - 4A
10. Shawn Marlatt - 12 - DB - 6A - 8-3

220:
1. Luke Bean - 12 - KMC - 5A
2. Nathan Butler - 11 - LV - 6A
3. Colten Lissolo - 12 - HUG - 4A
4. Riley Oharah - 12 - GDL - 321A - 8-0
5. Cash Drylie - 12 - HAY - 5A
6. Edward Fitzgerald - 12 - SFT - 4A
7. Jordan Brown - 12 - CON - 4A - 13-1
8. Tyler Keller - 12 - WNW - 6A
9. Tanner Taylor - 12 - BUR - 321A
10. Colton Bonner - 12 - BAL - 4A

285:
1. Will Geary - 11 - TOP - 6A - 11-0
2. Eric Mason - 12 - STA - 5A - 18-1
3. Zach Callahan - 12 - MV - 5A - 18-2
4. Tylor Woodruff - 12 - GD - 5A
5. Luke Hayes - 12 - SC - 321A
6. Zach Lanning - 12 - MCP - 4A - 5-1
7. Broc Bennett - 12 - PT - 4A - 11-3
8. Aaron Rafalko - 11 - JC - 6A
9. Tarez Griffen - 12 - WNW - 6A - 12-0
10. Clay Wilcox - 11 - CHP - 321A - 5-1
Posted By: wrestle nuts

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 12/22/11 04:29 AM

I would say a good job on the ranking overall, know way of knowing who's going to wrestle what wieght for a while. Biggest miss so far was Newton. Keep up the good work
Posted By: Beeson

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 12/22/11 07:27 AM

So Far OFF....wait till Newton Tournament....I will be laughing hysterically....Cant wait....wrestling nut, you have no idea....lol
Posted By: D_Bainter

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 12/22/11 08:30 AM

I dont understand the need to keep criticizing a guy who puts these out for us at free will. All Class rankings really mean nothing, (in fact, the only rankings that matter are the ones that come out after the State Tourney), but he does it for us to enjoy and get a perspective of who's out there at other classes. Just baffles me that you keep riding him for the good job he's been doing. Plus, it's pretty hard to compare 6A kids in eastern KS to 321A kids in western KS.
Posted By: Chief Renegade

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 12/22/11 01:55 PM

It's all good guys. I had a good talk with Beeson last night. He's a rabid Ark City fan and told me about how talented they REALLY are. Of course I already knew that...

I told Chad that when McMichael gets eligible from his qualified move from a 321A school, that will jump them back up there.

They made an awesome showing at the Perry, OK tournament. Almost winning the thing with #1 ranked Perry, #2 ranked Blackwell and #5 ranked Muskogee. With Terrill, Perez, Dietrich, Watters, Eastman, Villers, Dice, the anticipated return of McMichael and some "mystery" wrestlers to be unveiled soon, Ark is on the move!

Best wishes to the Bulldogs! (And their biggest fan Chad Beeson!)
Posted By: Beeson

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 12/22/11 05:30 PM

Thanks Chief!
Posted By: WIchitaNorthwest

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 12/22/11 05:32 PM

Has Aaron Rafalko - 11 - JC ,Luke Hayes - 12 - SC wrestled yet at heavyweight
Posted By: Bronco Wrestler

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 12/22/11 05:36 PM

No they haven't and I would guess they won't this year.
Posted By: WIchitaNorthwest

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 12/22/11 05:41 PM

Why are they still in the all-class rankings with wrestlers like Griffin So low that's 12-0
Posted By: Ricky Bobby

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 12/22/11 05:53 PM

Hayes wrestled at the Goodland Tournament this past weekend.
Posted By: Bronco Wrestler

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 12/22/11 05:55 PM

Originally Posted By: Bronco Wrestler
No they haven't and I would guess they won't this year.


My mistake I thought you meant wrestled each other.
Posted By: master blaster

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 12/22/11 06:41 PM

12 and 0 is great but does he have any wins over wrestlers who are ranked?
Posted By: Bronco Wrestler

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 12/22/11 07:02 PM

I thought he meant wrestled each other Chief.
Posted By: Chief Renegade

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 12/22/11 07:03 PM

Originally Posted By: WIchitaNorthwest
Why are they still in the all-class rankings with wrestlers like Griffin So low that's 12-0


Does he have any criteria on those ranked above him?
Posted By: loveandwrestling

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 12/22/11 10:37 PM

also, who he has wrestled makes a big deal too! 12 wins over decent wrestlers, or 12 wins over scrubs?
Posted By: Chief Renegade

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 01/03/12 11:56 AM

TEAM RANKINGS:

1. Lawrence - 6A
2. Newton - 5A
3. St. Thomas Aquinas - 5A
4. Andale - 4A
5. Arkansas City - 5A
6. Andover Central - 5A
7. Manhattan - 6A
8. Garden City - 6A
9. Derby - 6A
10. St. James Academy - 4A


106:
1. Dakota Leach - 11 - GD - 5A - 15-0
2. Reese Cokeley - 10 - SJA - 4A - 16-3
3. Bryce Morgan - 11 - ELD - 4A - 9-0
4. Luke Henes - 10 - STA - 5A - 15-0
5. Trey Francka - 11 - CCO - 321A
6. Jase Stone - 11 - MH - 6A - 16-3
7. Tristan Star - 9 - LAW - 6A
8. Jake Goldenstein - 9 - AUG - 4A - 9-0
9. Parker Howell - 10 - KMC - 5A - 10-1
10. Logan Terrill - 9 - ARK - 5A - 14-5


113:
1. Zac Gentzler - 11 - AC - 5A - 12-0
2. Javier Vieyra - 12 - SS - 5A
3. Zak Hensley - 9 - SJA - 4A - 14-3
4. Tyler Mies - 10 - AN - 4A - 11-1
5. Jason Perez - 12 - ULY - 4A
6. Hunter Price - 11 - HOL - 4A
7. Michael Lindlar - 11 - WNW - 6A
8. John Risewick - 11 - NOR - 321A
9. Adam Cole - 9 - CH - 4A
10. Alex Garcia - 12 - DC - 6A

120:
1. Isaac Dulgarian - 9 - STA - 5A - 14-0
2. Dustin Reed - 11 - CLB - 4A
3. Anthony Calderon - 12 - GC - 6A - 11-1
4. Tim Prescott - 12 - MCP - 4A - 8-0
5. Chris Burley - 11 - GB - 5A - 12-1
6. Quinton Harrison - 11 - NEW - 5A - 8-1
7. Jared Suppes - 11 - DB - 6A - 9-2
8. Kevin Arnhold - 12 - HAY - 5A
9. Ty Kolterman - 12 - CC - 4A
10. Ben Lightfoot - 11 - AC - 5A

126:
1. Austin Hood - 12 - LOU - 4A - 8-0
2. Dylan Schumacher - 12 - TMP - 321A - 15-0
3. Bryce Shoemaker - 11 - BAL - 4A
4. Michael Olsen - 10 - LS - 5A - 14-3
5. TJ Stokes - 12 - GE - 6A - 11-3
6. Hunter Haralson - 11 - LAW - 6A - 12-2
7. Colby Watters - 12 - ARK - 5A - 10-1
8. Lukas Maki - 11 - KMC - 5A
9. Alex Wolf - 12 - SV - 4A
10. Taelor Mendenhall - 12 - CON - 4A

132:
1. Bo Pursel - 12 - LS - 5A - 14-0
2. Cody Eastman - 11 - ARK - 5A - 16-3
3. Clay Mulligan - 12 - SC - 321A - 13-0
4. Austin Hughey - 11 - ELD - 4A - 10-1
5. Jacob Durosette - 10 - FS - 4A
6. Ben Randolph - 12 - SME - 6A - 16-2
7. Anthony Monares - 11 - NEW - 5A - 10-0
8. Shane Goetz - 12 - HUT - 6A
9. Kasey Biddle - 11 - CB - 321A - 8-0
10t. Thatcher Murdoch - 12 - PAR - 4A
10t. Kyle Miller - 11 - BUH - 4A

138:
1. Konnor Kriss - 12 - CLB - 4A
2. Brandon Charbonneau - 12 - EMP - 5A - 11-0
3. Brogan Humphrey - 10 - FRE - 321A
4. Calvin Ochs - 11 - HOX - 321A - 10-1
5. Victor Hughes - 11 - FS - 4A - 17-0
6. Reis Humphrey - 11 - SMS - 6A - 12-1
7. Brady Heincker - 12 - DB - 6A - 11-0
8. Tommy Williams - 12 - STA - 5A - 18-1
9. Jake Gehring - 11 - BUH - 4A
10. Andrew Millsap - 10 - JC - 9-1

145:
1. Tagen Lambotte - 10 - ROS - 321A - 8-0
2. Jonathan Blackwell - 11 - BS - 4A - 13-0
3. Aaron Seybold - 12 - PT - 4A - 14-1
4. Dustin Williams - 10 - GE - 6A - 19-2
5. Miles Johns - 12 - NEW - 5A - 11-0
6. Lincoln Lemon - 12 - GD - 5A - 14-2
7. Ben Becker - 12 - DB - 6A - 9-3
8. Alex Thibault - 11 - HAL - 321A
9. Devon Dozier - 11 - OZ - 4A
10. Gage Younger - 11 - ELL - 321A - 7-0

152:
1. Alex Bontz - 12 - AC - 5A - 10-0
2. Rusty Yarrow - 12 - CC - 4A
3. Ky Biddle - 12 - CB - 321A - 9-0
4. Mark Hobson - 12 - BS - 4A - 12-1
5. Rory Haug - 12 - ON - 6A - 8-0
6. Dalton Snyder - 12 - HOX - 321A - 10-1
7. Kyle Armstrong - 11 - AN - 4A
8. Mark Smith - 12 - ROS - 321A
9. Razzy Morales - 12 - ULY - 4A
10t. Patrick Weaver - 11 - HUG - 4A
10t. Tyler Kimple - 12 - GD - 5A - 15-2

160:
1t. Connor Middleton - 12 - ONW - 6A - 16-1
1t. Sam Son - 12 - CH - 4A
3. Colton Duhr - 12 - AN - 4A - 11-0
4. Trey Dice - 12 - ARK - 5A - 9-0
5. Gavin Grater - 10 - CC - 4A
6. Bryant Guillen - 11 - SEA - 5A - 4-0
7. Jacob Eggers - 12 - DC - 6A
8. Aaron Puckett - 11 - BS - 4A - 12-1
9. Blake Hill - 12 - SME - 6A - 11-3
10. Kolby Fennewald - 11 - MUL - 4A - 13-1

170:
1. Matt Reed - 12 - WH - 6A - 10-0
2. Levi Eck - 11 - AN - 4A - 13-1
3. Blaine Hill - 12 - SME - 6A - 11-1
4. Preston Wiegel - 10 - HAY - 5A
5. Nick Pursel - 12 - LAW - 6A - 14-0
6. Jesse LeMay - 12 - WEL - 321A
7. Brian Wood - 12 - MH - 6A - 15-3
8. Tanner Gardner - 12 - CLW - 4A
9. Harrison Gilliland - 11 - PL - 321A
10. Aaron Cool - 12 - SEA - 5A

182:
1. Reece Wright-Conklin - 12 - LAW - 6A - 11-0
2. Spencer Wilson - 11 - LFS - 6A - 7-0
3. Hunter Weddington - 12 - AND - 5A
4. Nick Meck - 11 - SH - 5A
5. Kane Kelly - 12 - AB - 4A
6. Tyler Lowe - 12 - EUR - 321A - 6-1
7. Brock Long - 12 - SES - 321A - 11-1
8. Brent Koehn - 12 - PT - 4A - 6-2
9. Tyler Higgins - 12 - IKE - 5A - 8-0
10. Cole Cannon - 12 - DS - 4A - 14-1

195:
1. Colt Castlebury - 12 - DOU - 321A - 11-0
2. Dillon Archer - 11 - NEW - 5A - 7-0
3. Ulyesses DeShazer - 12 - WH - 6A - 10-1
4. Darien Willis - 12 - SUM - 4A
5. Litton VanDerWerff - 12 - LS - 5A - 13-1
6. Taylor Krier - 12 - MCP - 4A - 6-2
7. Ty Suggs - 12 - MH - 6A - 11-1
8. Alex Stockton - 12 - GE - 6A - 21-2
9. Eastin Dockers - 12 - RH - 4A
10. Shawn Marlatt - 12 - DB - 6A - 9-3

220:
1. Luke Bean - 12 - KMC - 5A
2. Nathan Butler - 11 - LV - 6A
3. Colten Lissolo - 12 - HUG - 4A
4. Riley Oharah - 12 - GDL - 321A - 8-0
5. Cash Drylie - 12 - HAY - 5A
6. Edward Fitzgerald - 12 - SFT - 4A
7. Jordan Brown - 12 - CON - 4A - 13-1
8. Tyler Keller - 12 - WNW - 6A
9. Tanner Taylor - 12 - BUR - 321A
10. Colton Bonner - 12 - BAL - 4A

285:
1. Will Geary - 11 - TOP - 6A - 11-0
2. Eric Mason - 12 - STA - 5A - 18-1
3. Zach Callahan - 12 - MV - 5A - 18-2
4. Tylor Woodruff - 12 - GD - 5A
5. Luke Hayes - 12 - SC - 321A - 5-0
6. Zach Lanning - 12 - MCP - 4A - 5-1
7. Broc Bennett - 12 - PT - 4A - 11-3
8. Aaron Rafalko - 11 - JC - 6A
9. Tarez Griffen - 12 - WNW - 6A - 12-0
10. Clay Wilcox - 11 - CHP - 321A - 10-1
Posted By: DDenning

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 01/09/12 02:22 AM

SOME OF US HAVE BEEN SHOCKED JARED JOHNSON HAS NOT CRACKED YOUR TOP 10 FROM DAY 1 AT 152, ESPECIALLY AFTER PLACING AT FARGO THIS LAST SUMMER. HE CAN'T BE IGNORED ANY LONGER AFTER HIS WINS AT ROSSVILLE
Posted By: YippieSkippie

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 01/09/12 03:12 AM

Originally Posted By: kvk coach
SOME OF US HAVE BEEN SHOCKED JARED JOHNSON HAS NOT CRACKED YOUR TOP 10 FROM DAY 1 AT 152, ESPECIALLY AFTER PLACING AT FARGO THIS LAST SUMMER. HE CAN'T BE IGNORED ANY LONGER AFTER HIS WINS AT ROSSVILLE


I second that emotion, beating the #2 and #8 should put him in the top 10 somewhere.
Posted By: Chief Renegade

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 01/09/12 04:33 AM

Originally Posted By: kvk coach
SOME OF US HAVE BEEN SHOCKED JARED JOHNSON HAS NOT CRACKED YOUR TOP 10 FROM DAY 1 AT 152, ESPECIALLY AFTER PLACING AT FARGO THIS LAST SUMMER. HE CAN'T BE IGNORED ANY LONGER AFTER HIS WINS AT ROSSVILLE


He has not been ignored. He had a great weekend at Rossville with wins over Yarrow and Smith and will likely be ranked this week. Prior to that, he has lacked criteria to jump those above him. In the 321A state bracket, he was pinned by Thibault and lost 9-2 to Hunsicker, placing 5th. He did not place in the HS 145 division at Kids state, losing to Biddle and Damen Scheele from Marysville. Having said that, I am a Jared Johnson fan and know him personally. He was invited to wrestle for our Junior National Greco Dual team in OKC and gave us some quality wins. If his team's schedule had allowed him to see some of the ranked wrestlers sooner, he would have taken advantage of that I'm sure. The next time you are shocked at a wrestler not being ranked, simply post criteria on this forum or PM me.

Congrats on winning that tough bracket Jared!

- Chief
Posted By: hotrodder54

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 01/09/12 03:24 PM

Congrats Jared !!!!! He's a great kid and wrestler but he knows rankings are just entertainment for us adults and don't always hold true. I like the underdogs
Posted By: Blast Double1

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 01/09/12 06:35 PM

at 152, how is Sharpe ranked ahead of Morales in the 4a ranking and not ranked at all in the all class rankings?
Posted By: Chief Renegade

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 01/09/12 07:51 PM

Originally Posted By: PistolPete1
at 152, how is Sharpe ranked ahead of Morales in the 4a ranking and not ranked at all in the all class rankings?


The 4A rankings have not been updated. Next release is TOMORROW!
Posted By: Chief Renegade

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 01/10/12 03:05 PM

TEAM RANKINGS:

1. Newton - 5A
2. Arkansas City - 5A
3. Andale - 4A
4. Lawrence - 6A
5. St. Thomas Aquinas - 5A
6. Andover Central - 5A
7. Manhattan - 6A
8. St. James Academy - 4A
9. Pittsburg - 4A
10. Wichita Heights - 6A


106:
1. Dakota Leach - 11 - GD - 5A - 19-0
2. Reese Cokeley - 10 - SJA - 4A - 21-3
3. Bryce Morgan - 11 - ELD - 4A - 13-1
4. Luke Henes - 10 - STA - 5A - 18-0
5. Trey Francka - 11 - CCO - 321A - 12-1
6. Jake Goldenstein - 9 - AUG - 4A - 15-0
7. Jase Stone - 11 - MH - 6A - 19-3
8. Tristan Star - 9 - LAW - 6A
9. Parker Howell - 10 - KMC - 5A - 15-2
10t. Logan Terrill - 9 - ARK - 5A - 18-6
10t. Sean DeShazer - 9 - WH - 6A - 8-2


113:
1. Zac Gentzler - 11 - AC - 5A - 16-0
2. Zak Hensley - 9 - SJA - 4A - 18-4
3. Tyler Mies - 10 - AN - 4A - 14-1
4. Javier Vieyra - 12 - SS - 5A - 14-2
5. Jason Perez - 12 - ULY - 4A - 12-1
6. Alex Garcia - 12 - Dc - 6A - 14-5
7. Hunter Price - 11 - HOL - 4A - 13-1
8. Michael Lindlar - 11 - WNW - 6A
9. Adam Cole - 9 - CH - 4A - 17-0
10. PJ Cheney - 10 - TUR - 5A


120:
1. Isaac Dulgarian - 9 - STA - 5A - 17-0
2. Dustin Reed - 11 - CLB - 4A - 23-0
3. Anthony Calderon - 12 - GC - 6A - 15-1
4. Tim Prescott - 12 - MCP - 4A - 11-0
5. Chris Burley - 11 - GB - 5A - 15-2
6. Quinton Harrison - 11 - NEW - 5A - 12-2
7. Kevin Arnhold - 12 - HAY - 5A - 19-3
8. Ty Kolterman - 12 - CC - 4A
9. Clayton Himple - 11 - TG - 4A - 19-2
10t. Greg Jones - 10 - WH - 6A - 3-1
10t. Kyle Miller - 12 - BUH - 4A


126:
1. Austin Hood - 12 - LOU - 4A - 16-0
2. Dylan Schumacher - 12 - TMP - 321A - 18-0
3. Bryce Shoemaker - 11 - BAL - 4A - 17-2
4. Michael Olsen - 10 - LS - 5A - 18-4
5. TJ Stokes - 12 - GE - 6A - 11-3
6. Hunter Haralson - 11 - LAW - 6A - 16-2
7. Colby Watters - 12 - ARK - 5A - 13-1
8. Alex Wolf - 12 - SV - 4A - 16-0
9. Lukas Maki - 11 - KMC - 5A - 17-2
10. Taelor Mendenhall - 12 - CON - 4A


132:
1. Bo Pursel - 12 - LS - 5A - 21-0
2. Brogan Humphrey - 10 - FRE - 321A - 15-0
3. Cody Eastman - 11 - ARK - 5A - 20-3
4. Clay Mulligan - 12 - SC - 321A - 17-1
5. Jacob Durosette - 10 - FS - 4A - 6-1
6. Ben Randolph - 12 - SME - 6A - 19-2
7. Kasey Biddle - 11 - CB - 321A - 8-0
8. Luke Lee - 12 - AC - 5A - 13-3
9. Anthony Moneras - 11 - NEW - 5A - 14-1
10. Shane Goetz - 12 - HUT - 6A


138
1. Konnor Kriss - 12 - CLB - 4A - 24-1
2. Brandon Charbonneau - 12 - EMP - 5A - 16-0
3. Calvin Ochs - 11 - HOX - 321A - 13-1
4. Tommy Williams - 12 - STA - 5A - 21-1
5. Brady Heincker - 12 - DB - 6A - 14-0
6. Victor Hughes - 11 - FS - 4A - 20-1
7. Reis Humphrey - 11 - SMS - 6A - 14-2
8. Jake Gehring - 11 - BUH - 4A - 13-1
9. Andrew Millsap - 10 - JC - 6A - 14-2
10. Jared Fiscus - 11 - CH - 4A - 14-3


145:
1. Tagen Lambotte - 10 - ROS - 321A - 12-0
2. Jonathan Blackwell - 11 - BS - 4A - 17-0
3. Aaron Seybold - 12 - PT - 4A - 20-1
4. Dustin Williams - 10 - GE - 6A - 19-2
5. Miles Johns - 12 - NEW - 5A - 16-0
6. Lincoln Lemon - 12 - GD - 5A - 16-3
7. Alex Thibault - 11 - HAL - 321A
8. Devon Dozier - 11 - OZ - 4A
9. Lawson Fiss - 11 - HUG - 4A - 15-0
10. Gage Younger - 11 - ELL - 321A - 11-0


152:
1. Alex Bontz - 12 - AC - 5A - 15-0
2. Ky Biddle - 12 - CB - 321A - 12-0
3. Mark Hobson - 12 - BS - 4A - 16-1
4. Jared Johnson - 11 - PR - 321A
5. Rusty Yarrow - 12 - CC - 4A
6. Rory Haug - 12 - ON - 6A - 8-0
7. Dalton Snyder - 12 - HOX - 321A - 10-1
8. Kyle Armstrong - 11 - AN - 4A
9. Seth Sharpe - 12 - MUL - 4A
10. Razzy Morales - 12 - ULY - 4A


160:
1t. Connor Middleton - 12 - ONW - 6A - 19-1
1t. Sam Son - 12 - CH - 4A - 16-0
3. Colton Duhr - 12 - AN - 4A - 13-0
4. Trey Dice - 12 - ARK - 5A - 12-0
5. Gavin Grater - 10 - CC - 4A
6. Bryant Guillen - 11 - SEA - 5A - 6-1
7. Jacob Eggers - 12 - DC - 6A
8. Aaron Puckett - 11 - BS - 4A - 17-1
9. Blake Hill - 12 - SME - 6A - 13-4
10. Kolby Fennewald - 11 - MUL - 4A - 13-1


170:
1. Matt Reed - 12 - WH - 6A - 14-0
2. Levi Eck - 11 - AN - 4A - 16-1
3. Blaine Hill - 12 - SME - 6A - 11-1
4. Preston Wiegel - 10 - HAY - 5A - 21-1
5. Nick Pursel - 12 - LAW - 6A - 18-1
6. Brian Wood - 12 - MH - 6A - 19-3
7. Josh Hoch - 12 - BUR - 321A - 16-1
8. Jesse LeMay - 12 - WEL - 321A - 16-2
9. Tanner Gardner - 12 - CLW - 4A
10. Tyler Henness - 12 - PAO - 4A - 6-0


182:
1. Reece Wright-Conklin - 12 - LAW - 6A - 13-0
2. Spencer Wilson - 11 - LFS - 6A - 7-0
3. Hunter Weddington - 12 - AND - 5A - 16-0
4. Nick Meck - 11 - SH - 5A - 17-1
5. Darien Willis - 12 - SUM - 4A - 3-0
6. Kane Kelly - 12 - AB - 4A
7. Tyler Lowe - 12 - EUR - 321A - 11-1
8. Brock Long - 12 - SES - 321A - 11-1
9. Cole Cannon - 12 - DS - 4A - 18-1
10. Jake Bradley - 11 - PV - 4A - 21-2


195:
1. Colt Castlebury - 12 - DOU - 321A - 19-0
2. Dillon Archer - 11 - NEW - 5A - 11-1
3. Chad Blair - 11 - VC - 5A - 16-1
4. Ulyesses DeShazer - 12 - WH - 6A - 14-2
5. Litton VanDerWerff - 12 - LS - 5A - 15-3
6. Taylor Krier - 12 - MCP - 4A - 6-2
7. Alex Stockton - 12 - GE - 6A - 21-2
8. Eastin Dockers - 12 - RH - 4A
9. Shawn Marlatt - 12 - DB - 6A - 12-4
10. Nate Stanley - 11 - SEA - 5A


220:
1. Luke Bean - 12 - KMC - 5A - 19-0
2. Nathan Butler - 11 - LV - 6A - 19-1
3. Riley Oharah - 12 - GDL - 321A - 8-0
4. Cash Drylie - 12 - HAY - 5A - 20-1
5. Tanner Taylor - 12 - BUR - 321 - 14-0
6. Justin Scott - 10 - JFW - 4A - 10-1
7. Edward Fitzgerald - 12 - SFT - 4A
8. Jordan Brown - 12 - CON - 4A - 13-1
9. Tyler Keller - 12 - WNW - 6A
10t. Garrett Foster - 12 - VC - 5A - 22-1
10t. Colton Bonner - 12 - BAL - 4A - 18-2


285:
1. Will Geary - 11 - TOP - 6A - 15-0
2. Eric Mason - 12 - STA - 5A - 21-1
3. Luke Hayes - 12 - SC - 321A - 10-0
4. Zach Lanning - 12 - MCP - 4A - 5-1
5. Broc Bennett - 12 - PT - 4A - 17-3
6. Zach Callahan - 12 - MV - 5A - 20-3
7. Aaron Rafalko - 11 - JC - 6A - 4-2
8. Tarez Griffen - 12 - WNW - 6A - 12-0
9. Clay Wilcox - 11 - CHP - 321A - 14-2
10. Jacob English - 12 - BEL - 321A - 12-1


Posted By: Peterson

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 01/10/12 03:19 PM

Hensley over Vieyra? how's that?
Posted By: Chief Renegade

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 01/10/12 03:23 PM

Originally Posted By: Peterson
Hensley over Vieyra? how's that?


Vieyra lost to Garcia and Nuno. To explain 113 a bit more...

That is a three way issue. Mies beat Garcia twice. Javier beat Mies. Garcia beat Javier. I had to land with Mies, Javier and Garcia based on their full body of work. I spent A LOT of time on that one.

Posted By: wrestle nuts

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 01/10/12 03:31 PM

Monares 132 pinned Goetz last Thursday at Hutch
Posted By: effwhyeye

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 01/10/12 03:31 PM

I haven't seen any results with Rieswick at 113. Does he plan on dropping down?
Posted By: mleroy42

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 01/10/12 07:49 PM

I notice Connor Middleton and Sam Son are the only tie in the rankings. Have they ever wrestled each other, whether in high school or club?
Posted By: Chief Renegade

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 01/10/12 07:53 PM

Originally Posted By: mleroy42
I notice Connor Middleton and Sam Son are the only tie in the rankings. Have they ever wrestled each other, whether in high school or club?


Nope...
Posted By: Chief Renegade

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 01/10/12 07:54 PM

Originally Posted By: effwhyeye
I haven't seen any results with Rieswick at 113. Does he plan on dropping down?


Looks like 120.
Posted By: W Gardner

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 01/11/12 12:13 AM

Chief,

Tanner Gardner was listed at #2 in 4A and #8 all state, but now he is completely out of the rankings.
It appears Tyler Henness moved back to 170, and he is now at #2 and Whitaker at #3.

Facts - Tanner and Henness have only wrestled once - last year at state and Tanner pinned him. Tanner and Whitaker have only wrestled once - 3 weeks ago at Marion and Tanner beat him 4-3.
Posted By: Chief Renegade

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 01/11/12 02:53 AM

Thanks for the info! I will work on that.
Posted By: L.Geyer

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 01/11/12 01:12 PM

Cheif,
At 170 you have Preston Wiegel at 21-1, I believe he is still undefeated.
Posted By: Chief Renegade

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 01/11/12 01:25 PM

TEAM RANKINGS:

1. Newton - 5A
2. Arkansas City - 5A
3. Andale - 4A
4. Lawrence - 6A
5. St. Thomas Aquinas - 5A
6. Andover Central - 5A
7. Manhattan - 6A
8. St. James Academy - 4A
9. Pittsburg - 4A
10. Gardner-Edgerton - 6A


106:
1. Dakota Leach - 11 - GD - 5A - 19-0
2. Reese Cokeley - 10 - SJA - 4A - 21-3
3. Bryce Morgan - 11 - ELD - 4A - 13-1
4. Luke Henes - 10 - STA - 5A - 18-0
5. Trey Francka - 11 - CCO - 321A - 12-1
6. Jake Goldenstein - 9 - AUG - 4A - 15-0
7. Jase Stone - 11 - MH - 6A - 19-3
8. Tristan Star - 9 - LAW - 6A
9. Parker Howell - 10 - KMC - 5A - 15-2
10t. Logan Terrill - 9 - ARK - 5A - 18-6
10t. Sean DeShazer - 9 - WH - 6A - 8-2


113:
1. Zac Gentzler - 11 - AC - 5A - 16-0
2. Zak Hensley - 9 - SJA - 4A - 18-4
3. Tyler Mies - 10 - AN - 4A - 14-1
4. Javier Vieyra - 12 - SS - 5A - 14-2
5. Jason Perez - 12 - ULY - 4A - 12-1
6. Alex Garcia - 12 - Dc - 6A - 14-5
7. Hunter Price - 11 - HOL - 4A - 13-1
8. Michael Lindlar - 11 - WNW - 6A
9. Adam Cole - 9 - CH - 4A - 17-0
10. PJ Cheney - 10 - TUR - 5A


120:
1. Isaac Dulgarian - 9 - STA - 5A - 17-0
2. Dustin Reed - 11 - CLB - 4A - 23-0
3. Anthony Calderon - 12 - GC - 6A - 15-1
4. Tim Prescott - 12 - MCP - 4A - 11-0
5. Chris Burley - 11 - GB - 5A - 15-2
6. Quinton Harrison - 11 - NEW - 5A - 12-2
7. Kevin Arnhold - 12 - HAY - 5A - 19-3
8. Ty Kolterman - 12 - CC - 4A
9. Clayton Himple - 11 - TG - 4A - 19-2
10t. Greg Jones - 10 - WH - 6A - 3-1
10t. Kyle Miller - 12 - BUH - 4A


126:
1. Austin Hood - 12 - LOU - 4A - 16-0
2. Dylan Schumacher - 12 - TMP - 321A - 18-0
3. Bryce Shoemaker - 11 - BAL - 4A - 17-2
4. Michael Olsen - 10 - LS - 5A - 18-4
5. TJ Stokes - 12 - GE - 6A - 11-3
6. Hunter Haralson - 11 - LAW - 6A - 16-2
7. Colby Watters - 12 - ARK - 5A - 13-1
8. Alex Wolf - 12 - SV - 4A - 16-0
9. Lukas Maki - 11 - KMC - 5A - 17-2
10. Taelor Mendenhall - 12 - CON - 4A


132:
1. Bo Pursel - 12 - LS - 5A - 21-0
2. Brogan Humphrey - 10 - FRE - 321A - 15-0
3. Cody Eastman - 11 - ARK - 5A - 20-3
4. Clay Mulligan - 12 - SC - 321A - 17-1
5. Jacob Durosette - 10 - FS - 4A - 6-1
6. Ben Randolph - 12 - SME - 6A - 19-2
7. Kasey Biddle - 11 - CB - 321A - 8-0
8. Luke Lee - 12 - AC - 5A - 13-3
9. Anthony Moneras - 11 - NEW - 5A - 14-1
10. Shane Goetz - 12 - HUT - 6A


138
1. Konnor Kriss - 12 - CLB - 4A - 24-1
2. Brandon Charbonneau - 12 - EMP - 5A - 16-0
3. Calvin Ochs - 11 - HOX - 321A - 13-1
4. Tommy Williams - 12 - STA - 5A - 21-1
5. Brady Heincker - 12 - DB - 6A - 14-0
6. Victor Hughes - 11 - FS - 4A - 20-1
7. Reis Humphrey - 11 - SMS - 6A - 14-2
8. Jake Gehring - 11 - BUH - 4A - 13-1
9. Andrew Millsap - 10 - JC - 6A - 14-2
10. Jared Fiscus - 11 - CH - 4A - 14-3


145:
1. Tagen Lambotte - 10 - ROS - 321A - 12-0
2. Jonathan Blackwell - 11 - BS - 4A - 17-0
3. Aaron Seybold - 12 - PT - 4A - 20-1
4. Dustin Williams - 10 - GE - 6A - 19-2
5. Miles Johns - 12 - NEW - 5A - 16-0
6. Lincoln Lemon - 12 - GD - 5A - 16-3
7.
8. Devon Dozier - 11 - OZ - 4A
9. Lawson Fiss - 11 - HUG - 4A - 15-0
10. Gage Younger - 11 - ELL - 321A - 11-0


152:
1. Alex Bontz - 12 - AC - 5A - 15-0
2. Ky Biddle - 12 - CB - 321A - 12-0
3. Mark Hobson - 12 - BS - 4A - 16-1
4. Jared Johnson - 11 - PR - 321A - 18-0
5. Rusty Yarrow - 12 - CC - 4A
6. Rory Haug - 12 - ON - 6A - 8-0
7. Dalton Snyder - 12 - HOX - 321A - 10-1
8. Kyle Armstrong - 11 - AN - 4A
9. Seth Sharpe - 12 - MUL - 4A
10. Razzy Morales - 12 - ULY - 4A


160:
1t. Connor Middleton - 12 - ONW - 6A - 19-1
1t. Sam Son - 12 - CH - 4A - 16-0
3. Colton Duhr - 12 - AN - 4A - 13-0
4. Trey Dice - 12 - ARK - 5A - 12-1
5. Gavin Grater - 10 - CC - 4A
6. Bryant Guillen - 11 - SEA - 5A - 6-1
7. Jacob Eggers - 12 - DC - 6A
8. Aaron Puckett - 11 - BS - 4A - 17-1
9. Blake Hill - 12 - SME - 6A - 13-4
10. Kolby Fennewald - 11 - MUL - 4A - 13-1


170:
1. Matt Reed - 12 - WH - 6A - 14-0
2. Levi Eck - 11 - AN - 4A - 16-1
3. Blaine Hill - 12 - SME - 6A - 14-1
4. Preston Wiegel - 10 - HAY - 5A - 21-0
5. Nick Pursel - 12 - LAW - 6A - 18-1
6. Brian Wood - 12 - MH - 6A - 19-3
7. Josh Hoch - 12 - BUR - 321A - 16-1
8. Jesse LeMay - 12 - WEL - 321A - 16-2
9. Tanner Gardner - 12 - CLW - 4A
10. Tyler Henness - 12 - PAO - 4A - 6-0


182:
1. Reece Wright-Conklin - 12 - LAW - 6A - 13-0
2. Spencer Wilson - 11 - LFS - 6A - 7-0
3. Hunter Weddington - 12 - AND - 5A - 16-0
4. Nick Meck - 11 - SH - 5A - 17-1
5. Darien Willis - 12 - SUM - 4A - 3-0
6. Kane Kelly - 12 - AB - 4A
7. Tyler Lowe - 12 - EUR - 321A - 11-1
8. Brock Long - 12 - SES - 321A - 11-1
9. Cole Cannon - 12 - DS - 4A - 18-1
10. Jake Bradley - 11 - PV - 4A - 21-2


195:
1. Colt Castlebury - 12 - DOU - 321A - 19-0
2. Dillon Archer - 11 - NEW - 5A - 11-1
3. Chad Blair - 11 - VC - 5A - 16-1
4. Ulyesses DeShazer - 12 - WH - 6A - 14-2
5. Litton VanDerWerff - 12 - LS - 5A - 15-3
6. Taylor Krier - 12 - MCP - 4A - 6-2
7. Alex Stockton - 12 - GE - 6A - 21-2
8. Eastin Dockers - 12 - RH - 4A
9. Shawn Marlatt - 12 - DB - 6A - 12-4
10. Nate Stanley - 11 - SEA - 5A


220:
1. Luke Bean - 12 - KMC - 5A - 19-0
2. Nathan Butler - 11 - LV - 6A - 19-1
3. Riley Oharah - 12 - GDL - 321A - 8-0
4. Cash Drylie - 12 - HAY - 5A - 20-1
5. Tanner Taylor - 12 - BUR - 321 - 14-0
6. Justin Scott - 10 - JFW - 4A - 10-1
7. Edward Fitzgerald - 12 - SFT - 4A
8. Jordan Brown - 12 - CON - 4A - 13-1
9. Tyler Keller - 12 - WNW - 6A
10t. Garrett Foster - 12 - VC - 5A - 22-1
10t. Colton Bonner - 12 - BAL - 4A - 18-2


285:
1. Will Geary - 11 - TOP - 6A - 15-0
2. Eric Mason - 12 - STA - 5A - 21-1
3. Luke Hayes - 12 - SC - 321A - 10-0
4. Zach Lanning - 12 - MCP - 4A - 5-1
5. Broc Bennett - 12 - PT - 4A - 17-3
6. Zach Callahan - 12 - MV - 5A - 20-3
7. Aaron Rafalko - 11 - JC - 6A - 4-2
8. Tarez Griffen - 12 - WNW - 6A - 12-0
9. Clay Wilcox - 11 - CHP - 321A - 14-2
10. Jacob English - 12 - BEL - 321A - 12-1


Posted By: fragged91

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 01/14/12 07:27 PM

Chief,

It looks like Henes(STA) beat Cokely(SJA) at Bobcat. Based on your criteria, Henes will now be ranked above Cokely for this year and into next (if in the same weight), until Cokely beats Henes or has significant wins over common opponents that Henes has lost to. Is that correct?
Posted By: Chief Renegade

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 01/15/12 02:42 AM

Originally Posted By: fragged91
Chief,

It looks like Henes(STA) beat Cokely(SJA) at Bobcat. Based on your criteria, Henes will now be ranked above Cokely for this year and into next (if in the same weight), until Cokely beats Henes or has significant wins over common opponents that Henes has lost to. Is that correct?


Nope
Posted By: John Johnson

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 01/15/12 03:20 AM

It was a trick question Chief...
Posted By: MacLaughlin

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 01/15/12 04:15 AM

Congrats to Logan Terrill, Colby Watters, and Trey Dice. Looking forward to state. Go coach Buckbee!
Posted By: doug747

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 01/15/12 04:16 AM

I have a feeling that Chief will be up for the next few nights redoing his All Class Rankings. After this weekend, he doesn't need any distractions from you guys, just leave him alone..........
Posted By: Warriordad

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 01/15/12 06:47 PM

Alex Thibault (Halstead) is not wrestling this season.
Posted By: sportsfan02

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 01/16/12 02:13 AM

Originally Posted By: Warriordad
Alex Thibault (Halstead) is not wrestling this season.

Darn, he had been moving up in the rankings!
Posted By: Chief Renegade

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 01/16/12 02:55 AM

Originally Posted By: Warriordad
Alex Thibault (Halstead) is not wrestling this season.


It had been reported to me that he was returning this weekend. He is also still ranked #2 by the 321A ranker. I will check on that again. Thanks!
Posted By: Jack Otero

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 01/16/12 01:17 PM

Freshman Tevin Briscoe surely should move into the rankings. He beat Lindlar and Vieyra this weekend. FYI
Posted By: Tommyboy

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 01/16/12 01:33 PM

I was really impressed with Mr. Briscoe at 113.

Dan Gentzler - Andover Central
Posted By: ReDPloyd

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 01/16/12 03:04 PM

Originally Posted By: Tommyboy
I was really impressed with Mr. Briscoe at 113.

Dan Gentzler - Andover Central

I agree with Mr. Gentzler and Mr. Otero. Briscoe is another freshman phenom. The only other time I have watched him wrestle was at the Middle School State Championships in 2010. He finished 2nd to Hensley in a bracket that was filled with wrestling talent.
Posted By: Cokeley

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 01/16/12 07:22 PM

Originally Posted By: fragged91
Chief,

It looks like Henes(STA) beat Cokely(SJA) at Bobcat. Based on your criteria, Henes will now be ranked above Cokely for this year and into next (if in the same weight), until Cokely beats Henes or has significant wins over common opponents that Henes has lost to. Is that correct?


There are 140 wrestlers being ranked on here and you singled out this pair? I love the rankings and I love promoting the sport but I am having a tough time figuring out what good to either Luke or Reese would come from this post or why it matters to you, another unnamed pot stirrer.
Posted By: bug

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 01/16/12 10:29 PM

Dont worry i dont think it was aimed at you or your son
Posted By: Chief Renegade

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 01/16/12 10:57 PM

Originally Posted By: bug
Dont worry i dont think it was aimed at you or your son


It was a blind shot. They had zero criteria and now that "their" wrestler won, it is not enough to wait till tomorrow's ranking release. It's called bitterness and envy. Kinda sad but not surprising.
Posted By: HEADUP

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 01/17/12 12:58 AM

Originally Posted By: Cokeley
Originally Posted By: fragged91
Chief,

It looks like Henes(STA) beat Cokely(SJA) at Bobcat. Based on your criteria, Henes will now be ranked above Cokely for this year and into next (if in the same weight), until Cokely beats Henes or has significant wins over common opponents that Henes has lost to. Is that correct?


There are 140 wrestlers being ranked on here and you singled out this pair? I love the rankings and I love promoting the sport but I am having a tough time figuring out what good to either Luke or Reese would come from this post or why it matters to you, another unnamed pot stirrer.

??? there are 25 pages of named and unamed people quesstioning the rankings. i find it hard to believe what anyone wrestler gains from the rankings other than PRIDE. Pride that someone has noticed the hard work it takes to be successful.
Posted By: HEADUP

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 01/17/12 01:01 AM

Originally Posted By: Chief Renegade
Kinda sad but not surprising.


this whole thing has become really chippy. both sides. really chippy.
Posted By: ReDPloyd

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 01/17/12 01:19 AM

The rankings are really great, and I think it is awesome that someone takes their time to put them together. They are rankings that we can all observe and try to figure out who is considered to be in the top six. The State Tournament will decide who is in the top six. A lot of things can happen along the way (illness, injury, one wrestler has a bad day, another wrestler peaks at the right time, the moon is full, karma takes a turn for the worst). Wrestle hard, wrestle smart, and good luck to all.
Posted By: Chief Renegade

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 01/17/12 01:59 AM

TEAM RANKINGS:

1. Arkansas City - 5A
2. Andale - 4A
3. Lawrence - 6A
4. Newton - 5A
5. St. Thomas Aquinas - 5A
6. Manhattan - 6A
7. Andover Central - 5A
8. Gardner-Edgerton - 6A
9. Garden City - 6A
10. Hays - 5A


106:
1. Luke Henes - 10 - STA - 5A - 25-1
2. Dakota Leach - 11 - GD - 5A - 24-2
3. Reese Cokeley - 10 - SJA - 4A - 25-4
4. Bryce Morgan - 11 - ELD - 4A - 18-1
5. Logan Terrill - 9 - ARK - 5A - 24-6
6. Trey Francka - 11 - CCO - 321A - 15-1
7. Sean DeShazer - 9 - WH - 6A - 11-3
8. Jase Stone - 11 - MH - 6A - 26-4
9. Tristan Star - 9 - LAW - 6A - 20-5
10t. Jake Goldenstein - 9 - AUG - 4A - 20-1
10t. Parker Howell - 10 - KMC - 5A - 17-2


113:
1. Zac Gentzler - 11 - AC - 5A - 21-0
2. Tyler Mies - 10 - AN - 4A - 22-1
3. Zak Hensley - 9 - SJA - 4A - 20-4
4. Jason Perez - 12 - ULY - 4A - 15-1
5. Alex Garcia - 12 - DC - 6A - 16-6
6. Devin Briscoe - 9 - GC - 6A - 20-2
7. Javier Vieyra - 12 - SS - 5A - 16-4
8. Hunter Price - 11 - HOL - 4A - 17-1
9. Michael Lindlar - 11 - WNW - 6A - 21-5
10. Adam Cole - 9 - CH - 4A - 17-0


120:
1. Isaac Dulgarian - 9 - STA - 5A - 24-1
2. Dustin Reed - 11 - CLB - 4A - 24-1
3. Tim Prescott - 12 - MCP - 4A - 18-1
4. John Risewick - 11 - NOR - 321A
5. Anthony Calderon - 12 - GC - 6A - 19-3
6. Chris Burley - 11 - GB - 5A - 15-2
7. Quinton Harrison - 11 - NEW - 5A - 15-5
8. Kevin Arnhold - 12 - HAY - 5A - 19-3
9. Jared Suppes - 11 - DB - 6A - 12-5
10. Kevin Perez - 12 - JC - 6A - 13-5


126:
1. Austin Hood - 12 - LOU - 4A - 18-0
2. Bryce Shoemaker - 11 - BAL - 4A - 21-3
3. Michael Olsen - 10 - LS - 5A - 23-5
4. Dylan Schumacher - 12 - TMP - 321A - 21-3
5. Colby Watters - 12 - ARK - 5A - 19-1
6. TJ Stokes - 12 - GE - 6A - 15-4
7. Dane Edwards - 11 - DC - 6A - 21-3
8. Hunter Haralson - 11 - LAW - 6A - 20-4
9. Alex Wolf - 12 - SV - 4A - 18-0
10. Lukas Maki - 11 - KMC - 5A - 20-2


132:
1. Bo Pursel - 12 - LS - 5A - 26-0
2. Brogan Humphrey - 10 - FRE - 321A - 19-1
3. Cody Eastman - 11 - ARK - 5A - 26-5
4. Clay Mulligan - 12 - SC - 321A - 19-1
5. Aaron Engles - 12 - AN - 4A - 20-2
6. Austin Hughey - 12 - ELD - 4A - 21-2
7. Andrew Morgan - 12 - BAL - 4A - 21-7
8. Ben Randolph - 12 - SME - 6A - 23-4
9. Kasey Biddle - 11 - CB - 321A - 11-0
10. AJ Hurtado - 11 - GC - 6A - 20-10


138:
1. Brandon Charbonneau - 12 - EMP - 5A - 20-0
2. Konnor Kriss - 12 - CLB - 4A - 24-2
3. Calvin Ochs - 11 - HOX - 321A - 16-1
4. Tommy Williams - 12 - STA - 5A - 27-2
5. Victor Hughes - 11 - FS - 4A - 24-3
6. Reis Humphrey - 11 - SMS - 6A - 19-2
7. Jake Gehring - 11 - BUH - 4A - 18-2
8. Wyatt Villers - 12 - ARK - 5A - 17-8
9. Brady Heincker - 12 - DB - 6A - 18-2
10. Taylor Watkins - 9 - COL - 4A - 21-7


145:
1. Aaron Seybold - 12 - PT - 4A - 24-2
2. Jonathan Blackwell - 11 - BS - 4A - 21-2
3. Tagen Lambotte - 10 - ROS - 321A - 23-1
4. Dustin Williams - 10 - GE - 6A - 24-3
5. Miles Johns - 12 - NEW - 5A - 20-1
6. Lincoln Lemon - 12 - GD - 5A - 21-5
7. Ben Becker - 11 - DB - 6A - 16-6
8. Devon Dozier - 11 - OZ - 4A
9. Lawson Fiss - 11 - HUG - 4A - 15-0
10. Gage Younger - 11 - ELL - 321A - 14-1


152:
1. Alex Bontz - 12 - AC - 5A - 18-1
2. Ky Biddle - 12 - CB - 321A - 15-0
3. Tyler McMichael - 12 - ARK - 5A - 4-1
4. Jared Johnson - 11 - PR - 321A - 22-0
5. Rusty Yarrow - 12 - CC - 4A - 19-3
6. Kyle Armstrong - 11 - AN - 4A - 24-2
7. Mark Hobson - 12 - BS - 4A - 20-3
8. Rory Haug - 12 - ON - 6A - 19-3
9. Seth Sharpe - 12 - MUL - 4A - 25-1
10. Razzy Morales - 12 - ULY - 4A


160:
1t. Connor Middleton - 12 - ONW - 6A - 22-1
1t. Sam Son - 12 - CH - 4A - 18-0
3. Colton Duhr - 12 - AN - 4A - 19-1
4. Gavin Grater - 10 - CC - 4A - 20-2
5. Jacob Eggers - 12 - DC - 6A - 19-3
6. Trey Dice - 12 - ARK - 5A - 16-2
7. Bryant Guillen - 11 - SEA - 5A - 11-3
8. Aaron Puckett - 11 - BS - 4A - 22-3
9. Hunter Stalford - 12 - CV - 321A - 17-0
10. Eric Albers - 12 - OAK - 321A


170
1. Matt Reed - 12 - WH - 6A - 14-0
2. Levi Eck - 11 - AN - 4A - 24-1
3. Blaine Hill - 12 - SME - 6A - 18-2
4. Preston Weigel - 10 - HAY - 5A - 23-0
5. Nick Pursel - 12 - LAW - 6A - 23-1
6. Brian Wood - 12 - MH - 6A - 24-4
7. Josh Hoch - 12 - BUR - 321A - 16-1
8. Jesse LeMay - 12 - WEL - 321A - 20-2
9. Tanner Gardner - 12 - CLW - 4A - 13-0
10. Tyler Henness - 12 - PAO - 4A - 11-2


182:
1. Reece Wright-Conklin - 12 - LAW - 6A - 17-1
2. Spencer Wilson - 11 - LFS - 6A - 15-0
3. Nick Meck - 11 - SH - 5A - 17-1
4. Darien Willis - 12 - SUM - 4A - 5-0
5. Kane Kelly - 12 - AB - 4A
6. Tyler Lowe - 12 - EUR - 321A - 11-1
7. Brock Long - 12 - SES - 321A - 11-1
8. Hunter Weddington - 12 - AND - 5A - 16-1
9. Cole Cannon - 12 - DS - 4A - 18-1
10. Jake Bradley - 11 - PV - 4A - 21-2


195:
1. Colt Castlebury - 12 - DOU - 321A - 19-0
2. Chad Blair - 11 - VC - 5A - 16-1
3. Ulyesses DeShazer - 12 - WH - 6A - 18-2
4. Shawn Marlatt - 12 - DB - 6A - 15-5
5. Alex Stockton - 12 - GE - 6A - 26-3
6. Dillon Archer - 11 - NEW - 5A - 14-3
7. Litton VanDerWerff - 12 - LS - 5A - 19-4
8. Skyler Hittle - 10 - CON - 4A - 22-0
9. Eastin Dockers - 12 - RH - 4A - 10-2
10. Nate Stanley - 11 - SEA - 5A


220:
1. Luke Bean - 12 - KMC - 5A - 19-0
2. Nathan Butler - 11 - LV - 6A - 23-1
3. Riley Oharah - 12 - GDL - 321A - 14-0
4. Cash Drylie - 12 - HAY - 5A - 20-1
5. Tanner Taylor - 12 - BUR - 321A - 14-0
6. Justin Scott - 10 - JFW - 4A - 18-1
7. Tyler Keller - 12 - WNW - 6A - 21-2
8. Colton Bonner - 12 - BAL - 4A - 23-2
9. Edward Fitzgerald - 12 - SFT - 4A - 19-5
10. Jordan Brown - 12 - CON - 4A - 18-1


285:
1. Will Geary - 11 - TOP - 5A - 17-0
2. Eric Mason - 12 - STA - 5A - 21-1
3. Luke Hayes - 12 - SC - 321A - 13-0
4. Zach Lanning - 12 - MCP - 4A - 16-1
5. Caleb King - 12 - PIP - 4A - 19-3
6. Broc Bennett - 12 - PT - 4A - 21-5
7. Zach Callahan - 12 - MV - 5A - 23-4
8. Tarez Griffen - 12 - WNW - 6A - 23-1
9. Clay Wilcox - 11 - CHP - 321A - 22-2
10. Jacob English - 12 - BEL - 321A - 15-1
















Posted By: Railers91

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 01/17/12 05:08 AM

I respectively disagree with Andale being ranked over Newton.We beat them by 60 at Bishop Carroll.I assume that the rationale is that Andale beat Lawrence and Lawrence edged Newton.The good thing is that it will work it self out with Newton and Lawrence facing off this weekend at Blue Valley Northwest and Newton and Andale facing off in two weeks at Garden City. Should be real exciting.
Posted By: Chief Renegade

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 01/17/12 12:49 PM

TEAM RANKINGS:

1. Arkansas City - 5A
2. Andale - 4A
3. Lawrence - 6A
4. Newton - 5A
5. St. Thomas Aquinas - 5A
6. Manhattan - 6A
7. Andover Central - 5A
8. Gardner-Edgerton - 6A
9. Garden City - 6A
10. Hays - 5A


106:
1. Luke Henes - 10 - STA - 5A - 25-1
2. Dakota Leach - 11 - GD - 5A - 24-2
3. Reese Cokeley - 10 - SJA - 4A - 25-4
4. Bryce Morgan - 11 - ELD - 4A - 18-1
5. Logan Terrill - 9 - ARK - 5A - 24-6
6. Trey Francka - 11 - CCO - 321A - 15-1
7. Sean DeShazer - 9 - WH - 6A - 11-3
8. Jase Stone - 11 - MH - 6A - 26-4
9. Tristan Star - 9 - LAW - 6A - 20-5
10t. Jake Goldenstein - 9 - AUG - 4A - 20-1
10t. Parker Howell - 10 - KMC - 5A - 17-2


113:
1. Zac Gentzler - 11 - AC - 5A - 21-0
2. Tyler Mies - 10 - AN - 4A - 22-1
3. Zak Hensley - 9 - SJA - 4A - 20-4
4. Jason Perez - 12 - ULY - 4A - 15-1
5. Alex Garcia - 12 - DC - 6A - 16-6
6. Tevin Briscoe - 9 - GC - 6A - 20-2
7. Javier Vieyra - 12 - SS - 5A - 16-4
8. Hunter Price - 11 - HOL - 4A - 17-1
9. Michael Lindlar - 11 - WNW - 6A - 21-5
10. Adam Cole - 9 - CH - 4A - 17-0


120:
1. Isaac Dulgarian - 9 - STA - 5A - 24-1
2. Dustin Reed - 11 - CLB - 4A - 24-1
3. Tim Prescott - 12 - MCP - 4A - 18-1
4. John Risewick - 11 - NOR - 321A
5. Anthony Calderon - 12 - GC - 6A - 19-3
6. Chris Burley - 11 - GB - 5A - 15-2
7. Quinton Harrison - 11 - NEW - 5A - 15-5
8. Kevin Arnhold - 12 - HAY - 5A - 19-3
9. Jared Suppes - 11 - DB - 6A - 12-5
10. Kevin Perez - 12 - JC - 6A - 13-5


126:
1. Austin Hood - 12 - LOU - 4A - 18-0
2. Bryce Shoemaker - 11 - BAL - 4A - 21-3
3. Michael Olsen - 10 - LS - 5A - 23-5
4. Dylan Schumacher - 12 - TMP - 321A - 21-3
5. Colby Watters - 12 - ARK - 5A - 19-1
6. TJ Stokes - 12 - GE - 6A - 15-4
7. Dane Edwards - 11 - DC - 6A - 21-3
8. Hunter Haralson - 11 - LAW - 6A - 20-4
9. Alex Wolf - 12 - SV - 4A - 18-0
10. Lukas Maki - 11 - KMC - 5A - 20-2


132:
1. Bo Pursel - 12 - LS - 5A - 26-0
2. Brogan Humphrey - 10 - FRE - 321A - 19-1
3. Cody Eastman - 11 - ARK - 5A - 26-5
4. Clay Mulligan - 12 - SC - 321A - 19-1
5. Austin Hughey - 12 - ELD - 4A - 21-2
6. Aaron Engles - 12 - AN - 4A - 20-2
7. Andrew Morgan - 12 - BAL - 4A - 21-7
8. Ben Randolph - 12 - SME - 6A - 23-4
9. Kasey Biddle - 11 - CB - 321A - 11-0
10. AJ Hurtado - 11 - GC - 6A - 20-10


138:
1. Brandon Charbonneau - 12 - EMP - 5A - 20-0
2. Konnor Kriss - 12 - CLB - 4A - 24-2
3. Calvin Ochs - 11 - HOX - 321A - 16-1
4. Tommy Williams - 12 - STA - 5A - 27-2
5. Victor Hughes - 11 - FS - 4A - 24-3
6. Reis Humphrey - 11 - SMS - 6A - 19-2
7. Jake Gehring - 11 - BUH - 4A - 18-2
8. Wyatt Villers - 12 - ARK - 5A - 17-8
9. Brady Heincker - 12 - DB - 6A - 18-2
10. Taylor Watkins - 9 - COL - 4A - 21-7


145:
1. Aaron Seybold - 12 - PT - 4A - 24-2
2. Jonathan Blackwell - 11 - BS - 4A - 21-2
3. Tagen Lambotte - 10 - ROS - 321A - 23-1
4. Dustin Williams - 10 - GE - 6A - 24-3
5. Miles Johns - 12 - NEW - 5A - 20-1
6. Lincoln Lemon - 12 - GD - 5A - 21-5
7. Ben Becker - 11 - DB - 6A - 16-6
8. Devon Dozier - 11 - OZ - 4A
9. Lawson Fiss - 11 - HUG - 4A - 15-0
10. Gage Younger - 11 - ELL - 321A - 14-1


152:
1. Alex Bontz - 12 - AC - 5A - 18-1
2. Ky Biddle - 12 - CB - 321A - 15-0
3. Tyler McMichael - 12 - ARK - 5A - 4-1
4. Jared Johnson - 11 - PR - 321A - 22-0
5. Rusty Yarrow - 12 - CC - 4A - 19-3
6. Kyle Armstrong - 11 - AN - 4A - 24-2
7. Mark Hobson - 12 - BS - 4A - 20-3
8. Rory Haug - 12 - ON - 6A - 19-3
9. Seth Sharpe - 12 - MUL - 4A - 25-1
10. Razzy Morales - 12 - ULY - 4A


160:
1t. Connor Middleton - 12 - ONW - 6A - 22-1
1t. Sam Son - 12 - CH - 4A - 18-0
3. Colton Duhr - 12 - AN - 4A - 19-1
4. Gavin Grater - 10 - CC - 4A - 20-2
5. Jacob Eggers - 12 - DC - 6A - 19-3
6. Trey Dice - 12 - ARK - 5A - 16-2
7. Bryant Guillen - 11 - SEA - 5A - 11-3
8. Aaron Puckett - 11 - BS - 4A - 22-3
9. Hunter Stalford - 12 - CV - 321A - 17-0
10. Eric Albers - 12 - OAK - 321A


170
1. Matt Reed - 12 - WH - 6A - 14-0
2. Levi Eck - 11 - AN - 4A - 24-1
3. Blaine Hill - 12 - SME - 6A - 18-2
4. Preston Weigel - 10 - HAY - 5A - 23-0
5. Nick Pursel - 12 - LAW - 6A - 23-1
6. Brian Wood - 12 - MH - 6A - 24-4
7. Josh Hoch - 12 - BUR - 321A - 16-1
8. Jesse LeMay - 12 - WEL - 321A - 20-2
9. Tanner Gardner - 12 - CLW - 4A - 13-0
10. Tyler Henness - 12 - PAO - 4A - 11-2


182:
1. Reece Wright-Conklin - 12 - LAW - 6A - 17-1
2. Spencer Wilson - 11 - LFS - 6A - 15-0
3. Nick Meck - 11 - SH - 5A - 17-1
4. Darien Willis - 12 - SUM - 4A - 5-0
5. Kane Kelly - 12 - AB - 4A
6. Tyler Lowe - 12 - EUR - 321A - 11-1
7. Brock Long - 12 - SES - 321A - 11-1
8. Hunter Weddington - 12 - AND - 5A - 16-1
9. Cole Cannon - 12 - DS - 4A - 18-1
10. Jake Bradley - 11 - PV - 4A - 21-2


195:
1. Colt Castlebury - 12 - DOU - 321A - 19-0
2. Chad Blair - 11 - VC - 5A - 16-1
3. Ulyesses DeShazer - 12 - WH - 6A - 18-2
4. Shawn Marlatt - 12 - DB - 6A - 15-5
5. Alex Stockton - 12 - GE - 6A - 26-3
6. Dillon Archer - 11 - NEW - 5A - 14-3
7. Litton VanDerWerff - 12 - LS - 5A - 19-4
8. Skyler Hittle - 10 - CON - 4A - 22-0
9. Eastin Dockers - 12 - RH - 4A - 10-2
10. Nate Stanley - 11 - SEA - 5A


220:
1. Luke Bean - 12 - KMC - 5A - 19-0
2. Nathan Butler - 11 - LV - 6A - 23-1
3. Riley Oharah - 12 - GDL - 321A - 14-0
4. Cash Drylie - 12 - HAY - 5A - 20-1
5. Tanner Taylor - 12 - BUR - 321A - 14-0
6. Justin Scott - 10 - JFW - 4A - 18-1
7. Tyler Keller - 12 - WNW - 6A - 21-2
8. Colton Bonner - 12 - BAL - 4A - 23-2
9. Edward Fitzgerald - 12 - SFT - 4A - 19-5
10. Jordan Brown - 12 - CON - 4A - 18-1


285:
1. Will Geary - 11 - TOP - 6A - 17-0
2. Eric Mason - 12 - STA - 5A - 21-1
3. Luke Hayes - 12 - SC - 321A - 13-0
4. Zach Lanning - 12 - MCP - 4A - 16-1
5. Caleb King - 12 - PIP - 4A - 19-3
6. Broc Bennett - 12 - PT - 4A - 21-5
7. Zach Callahan - 12 - MV - 5A - 23-4
8. Tarez Griffen - 12 - WNW - 6A - 23-1
9. Clay Wilcox - 11 - CHP - 321A - 22-2
10. Jacob English - 12 - BEL - 321A - 15-1


Posted By: doug747

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 01/17/12 04:01 PM

I'm an Andale guy, and was very impressed with Newton's lineup at Carroll. Doesn't seem to be a weak link at any weights. However, I don't know how they stack up against the tougher competition from across the state. I wouldn't put much weight on the Andale/Lawrence points at Maize, as there wasn't a ton of the top tier kids there. Garden City will be another good test for Newton and Andale. Andale did well at Basehor. Looks like Newton held their own at Newton tourney. But you have to realize that the rankings are based on having a Kansas tourney, with every kid from every school in the bracket. How would each school do there? I believe Andale has anywhere from 2-5 kids, that could make the finals in a bracket like that. And we have a few others that would definitely score some points. Newton on the other hand, probably wouldn't have as many finalists, but more "backdoor" kids scoring points. It is beyond me how Chief gets these rankings as accurate as they are, it takes a lot of time. But don't get too riled up over them, cause we'll never really find out who the top point scoring team is, cause we'll never have an all class tourney. I've watched Quinton, Dillon, and McEachern thru the years at the middle school, Schoolboy, and Cadet duals. They've put in the time, and it is paying off now. Good luck at Garden City, it ought to be a whale of a tourney.
Posted By: bbd

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 01/17/12 07:26 PM

How does Lambotte at 145 get 6th place this past weekend at The Bobcat yet only have one loss on his record?
Posted By: Chief Renegade

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 01/17/12 07:29 PM

Two injury defaults...
Posted By: jojo

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 01/17/12 07:33 PM

He injury defaulted the last two matches. I don't think those are considered losses.
Posted By: badbo

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 01/17/12 07:35 PM

If that is the case I can take 2 off Bo's record from his So. year! Cool. I never really knew the answer to that.
Posted By: jojo

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 01/17/12 07:39 PM

If a wrestler starts a match and is unable to finish, it is considered a loss. If you never started the match, it is not considered a loss
Posted By: RJW1

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 01/17/12 07:42 PM

I'm pretty sure injury defaults count officially as losses, but maybe I'm wrong. Of course, the ranker can, and many would say should, disregard those default loses when doing rankings.
Posted By: smokeycabin

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 01/17/12 07:58 PM

Injury Default and FF - I think this must be in the North Dakota High School Athletic Association

http://www.ndhsaa.com/ndhsaa_publication...ts_Forfeits.pdf
Posted By: Chief Renegade

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 01/17/12 08:52 PM

Exactly. The two ID's after he left, do not count toward his match limit.
Posted By: wrestlingmomxx3

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 01/18/12 07:41 PM

Why is kasey biddle ahead of clay mulligan in 321a rankings yet mulligan is so far ahead of him on all-class last week mulligan was #4 in 321a and #4 in all class?
Posted By: RJW1

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 01/18/12 07:48 PM

Originally Posted By: wrestlingmomxx3
Why is kasey biddle ahead of clay mulligan in 321a rankings yet mulligan is so far ahead of him on all-class last week mulligan was #4 in 321a and #4 in all class?


The 321A rankings and the All-Class rankings are not done by the same ranker.
Posted By: Chief Renegade

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 01/19/12 11:39 AM

TEAM RANKINGS:

1. Arkansas City - 5A
2. Andale - 4A
3. Lawrence - 6A
4. Newton - 5A
5. St. Thomas Aquinas - 5A
6. Manhattan - 6A
7. Andover Central - 5A
8. Gardner-Edgerton - 6A
9. Garden City - 6A
10. Hays - 5A


106:
1. Luke Henes - 10 - STA - 5A - 25-1
2. Dakota Leach - 11 - GD - 5A - 24-2
3. Reese Cokeley - 10 - SJA - 4A - 25-4
4. Bryce Morgan - 11 - ELD - 4A - 18-1
5. Logan Terrill - 9 - ARK - 5A - 24-6
6. Trey Francka - 11 - CCO - 321A - 15-1
7. Sean DeShazer - 9 - WH - 6A - 11-3
8. Jase Stone - 11 - MH - 6A - 26-4
9. Tristan Star - 9 - LAW - 6A - 20-5
10t. Jake Goldenstein - 9 - AUG - 4A - 20-1
10t. Parker Howell - 10 - KMC - 5A - 17-2


113:
1. Zac Gentzler - 11 - AC - 5A - 21-0
2. Tyler Mies - 10 - AN - 4A - 22-1
3. Zak Hensley - 9 - SJA - 4A - 20-4
4. Jason Perez - 12 - ULY - 4A - 15-1
5. Alex Garcia - 12 - DC - 6A - 16-6
6. Devin Briscoe - 9 - GC - 6A - 20-2
7. Javier Vieyra - 12 - SS - 5A - 16-4
8. Hunter Price - 11 - HOL - 4A - 17-1
9. Michael Lindlar - 11 - WNW - 6A - 21-5
10. Adam Cole - 9 - CH - 4A - 17-0


120:
1. Isaac Dulgarian - 9 - STA - 5A - 24-1
2. Dustin Reed - 11 - CLB - 4A - 24-1
3. Tim Prescott - 12 - MCP - 4A - 18-1
4. John Risewick - 11 - NOR - 321A
5. Anthony Calderon - 12 - GC - 6A - 19-3
6. Chris Burley - 11 - GB - 5A - 15-2
7. Quinton Harrison - 11 - NEW - 5A - 15-5
8. Kevin Arnhold - 12 - HAY - 5A - 19-3
9. Jared Suppes - 11 - DB - 6A - 12-5
10. Kevin Perez - 12 - JC - 6A - 13-5


126:
1. Austin Hood - 12 - LOU - 4A - 18-0
2. Bryce Shoemaker - 11 - BAL - 4A - 21-3
3. Michael Olsen - 10 - LS - 5A - 23-5
4. Dylan Schumacher - 12 - TMP - 321A - 21-3
5. Colby Watters - 12 - ARK - 5A - 19-1
6. TJ Stokes - 12 - GE - 6A - 15-4
7. Dane Edwards - 11 - DC - 6A - 21-3
8. Hunter Haralson - 11 - LAW - 6A - 20-4
9. Alex Wolf - 12 - SV - 4A - 18-0
10. Lukas Maki - 11 - KMC - 5A - 20-2


132:
1. Bo Pursel - 12 - LS - 5A - 26-0
2. Brogan Humphrey - 10 - FRE - 321A - 19-1
3. Cody Eastman - 11 - ARK - 5A - 26-5
4. Clay Mulligan - 12 - SC - 321A - 19-1
5. Aaron Engles - 12 - AN - 4A - 20-2
6. Austin Hughey - 12 - ELD - 4A - 21-2
7. Andrew Morgan - 12 - BAL - 4A - 22-7
8. Ben Randolph - 12 - SME - 6A - 23-4
9. Kasey Biddle - 11 - CB - 321A - 14-0
10. AJ Hurtado - 11 - GC - 6A - 20-10


138:
1. Brandon Charbonneau - 12 - EMP - 5A - 20-0
2. Konnor Kriss - 12 - CLB - 4A - 24-2
3. Calvin Ochs - 11 - HOX - 321A - 16-1
4. Tommy Williams - 12 - STA - 5A - 27-2
5. Victor Hughes - 11 - FS - 4A - 24-3
6. Reis Humphrey - 11 - SMS - 6A - 19-2
7. Jake Gehring - 11 - BUH - 4A - 18-2
8. Wyatt Villers - 12 - ARK - 5A - 17-8
9. Brady Heincker - 12 - DB - 6A - 18-2
10. Taylor Watkins - 9 - COL - 4A - 21-7


145:
1. Aaron Seybold - 12 - PT - 4A - 24-2
2. Jonathan Blackwell - 11 - BS - 4A - 21-2
3. Tagen Lambotte - 10 - ROS - 321A - 23-1
4. Dustin Williams - 10 - GE - 6A - 24-3
5. Miles Johns - 12 - NEW - 5A - 20-1
6. Lincoln Lemon - 12 - GD - 5A - 21-5
7. Ben Becker - 11 - DB - 6A - 16-6
8. Devon Dozier - 11 - OZ - 4A
9. Lawson Fiss - 11 - HUG - 4A - 15-0
10. Gage Younger - 11 - ELL - 321A - 14-1


152:
1. Alex Bontz - 12 - AC - 5A - 18-1
2. Ky Biddle - 12 - CB - 321A - 17-0
3. Tyler McMichael - 12 - ARK - 5A - 4-1
4. Jared Johnson - 11 - PR - 321A - 22-0
5. Rusty Yarrow - 12 - CC - 4A - 19-3
6. Kyle Armstrong - 11 - AN - 4A - 24-2
7. Mark Hobson - 12 - BS - 4A - 20-3
8. Rory Haug - 12 - ON - 6A - 8-0
9. Seth Sharpe - 12 - MUL - 4A - 25-1
10. Razzy Morales - 12 - ULY - 4A


160:
1t. Connor Middleton - 12 - ONW - 6A - 22-1
1t. Sam Son - 12 - CH - 4A - 18-0
3. Colton Duhr - 12 - AN - 4A - 19-1
4. Gavin Grater - 10 - CC - 4A - 20-2
5. Jacob Eggers - 12 - DC - 6A - 19-3
6. Trey Dice - 12 - ARK - 5A - 16-2
7. Bryant Guillen - 11 - SEA - 5A - 11-3
8. Aaron Puckett - 11 - BS - 4A - 22-3
9. Hunter Stalford - 12 - CV - 321A - 17-0
10. Eric Albers - 12 - OAK - 321A


170
1. Matt Reed - 12 - WH - 6A - 14-0
2. Levi Eck - 11 - AN - 4A - 24-1
3. Blaine Hill - 12 - SME - 6A - 18-2
4. Preston Weigel - 10 - HAY - 5A - 23-0
5. Nick Pursel - 12 - LAW - 6A - 23-1
6. Brian Wood - 12 - MH - 6A - 24-4
7. Josh Hoch - 12 - BUR - 321A - 19-1
8. Jesse LeMay - 12 - WEL - 321A - 20-2
9. Tanner Gardner - 12 - CLW - 4A - 13-0
10. Tyler Henness - 12 - PAO - 4A - 11-2


182:
1. Reece Wright-Conklin - 12 - LAW - 6A - 17-1
2. Spencer Wilson - 11 - LFS - 6A - 15-0
3. Nick Meck - 11 - SH - 5A - 17-1
4. Darien Willis - 12 - SUM - 4A - 5-0
5. Kane Kelly - 12 - AB - 4A
6. Tyler Lowe - 12 - EUR - 321A - 11-1
7. Brock Long - 12 - SES - 321A - 11-1
8. Hunter Weddington - 12 - AND - 5A - 16-1
9. Cole Cannon - 12 - DS - 4A - 18-1
10. Jake Bradley - 11 - PV - 4A - 21-2


195:
1. Colt Castlebury - 12 - DOU - 321A - 19-0
2. Chad Blair - 11 - VC - 5A - 16-1
3. Ulyesses DeShazer - 12 - WH - 6A - 18-2
4. Shawn Marlatt - 12 - DB - 6A - 15-5
5. Litton VanDerWerff - 12 - LS - 5A - 19-4
6. Alex Stockton - 12 - GE - 6A - 26-3
7. Dillon Archer - 11 - NEW - 5A - 14-3
8. Skyler Hittle - 10 - CON - 4A - 22-0
9. Eastin Dockers - 12 - RH - 4A - 10-2
10. Nate Stanley - 11 - SEA - 5A


220:
1. Luke Bean - 12 - KMC - 5A - 19-0
2. Nathan Butler - 11 - LV - 6A - 23-1
3. Riley Oharah - 12 - GDL - 321A - 14-0
4. Cash Drylie - 12 - HAY - 5A - 20-1
5. Justin Scott - 10 - JFW - 4A - 18-1
6. Tyler Keller - 12 - WNW - 6A - 21-2
7. Colton Bonner - 12 - BAL - 4A - 24-2
8. Tanner Taylor - 12 - BUR - 321A - 15-1
9. Edward Fitzgerald - 12 - SFT - 4A - 19-5
10. Jordan Brown - 12 - CON - 4A - 18-1


285:
1. Will Geary - 11 - TOP - 5A - 17-0
2. Eric Mason - 12 - STA - 5A - 21-1
3. Luke Hayes - 12 - SC - 321A - 13-0
4. Zach Lanning - 12 - MCP - 4A - 16-1
5. Caleb King - 12 - PIP - 4A - 19-3
6. Broc Bennett - 12 - PT - 4A - 21-5
7. Zach Callahan - 12 - MV - 5A - 23-4
8. Tarez Griffen - 12 - WNW - 6A - 23-1
9. Clay Wilcox - 11 - CHP - 321A - 22-2
10. Jacob English - 12 - BEL - 321A - 15-1
Posted By: cicici

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 01/19/12 08:10 PM

3. Reese Cokeley - 10 - SJA - 4A - 25-4
4. Bryce Morgan - 11 - ELD - 4A - 18-1
5. Logan Terrill - 9 - ARK - 5A - 24-6

Chief just wondering what the criteria was with these three over Francka of Chase County?

2 time runner up, only lose is to Leach (#2), finished ahead of Cokeley at Silver Lake last year, pinned Morgan last year, and i dont know of anything on the Terrill kid. Thank you for your time.
Posted By: wrestlingaddict

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 01/19/12 08:28 PM

At 126 Alex Kough -11- SC 321A defeated 4. John Risewick - 11 - NOR - 321A at the Norton Tournament
Posted By: Chief Renegade

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 01/19/12 09:05 PM

Originally Posted By: cicici
3. Reese Cokeley - 10 - SJA - 4A - 25-4
4. Bryce Morgan - 11 - ELD - 4A - 18-1
5. Logan Terrill - 9 - ARK - 5A - 24-6

Chief just wondering what the criteria was with these three over Francka of Chase County?

2 time runner up, only lose is to Leach (#2), finished ahead of Cokeley at Silver Lake last year, pinned Morgan last year, and i dont know of anything on the Terrill kid. Thank you for your time.


It's a good question. He dropped below Leach after that loss and then Leach moved up as the season moved along. Strength of schedule had a lot to do with it. I will look at that again.
Posted By: shudog

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 01/19/12 09:25 PM

At 126 Alex Kough -11- SC 321A defeated 4. John Risewick - 11 - NOR - 321A at the Norton Tournament

You mean 120. Kough is a tough kid and should be considered at 120.
Posted By: John Johnson

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 01/20/12 02:52 AM

You know 'strength of schedule' has a lot to do with rankings, and rankings have a lot to do with strength of schedule - its becomes a circular argument...just a comment... but I enjoy the rankings and the discussions that follow....
Posted By: ReDPloyd

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 01/20/12 10:31 AM

Originally Posted By: shudog
At 126 Alex Kough -11- SC 321A defeated 4. John Risewick - 11 - NOR - 321A at the Norton Tournament

You mean 120. Kough is a tough kid and should be considered at 120.

I saw that Reed (Colby) beat Risewick 4-2 in a dual last night. I watched Reed wrestle in the finals at Newton against a Tulsa Union wrestler. He is just scary big for a 120 pounder, scary big. It was a great match with Reed cutting the TU wrestler with just under a minute in the 3rd to go down by one and was never able to score the two he needed from his feet to win. Great match though.
Posted By: Olympicwrestling

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 01/22/12 09:46 PM

Peterson will return at 120
Posted By: Beeson

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 01/23/12 03:12 AM

Originally Posted By: John Johnson
You know 'strength of schedule' has a lot to do with rankings, and rankings have a lot to do with strength of schedule - its becomes a circular argument...just a comment... but I enjoy the rankings and the discussions that follow....


Well then all of the Ark City kids should be bumped up two more places on Strength of Schedule ALONE! grin
Posted By: Paratroop

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 01/23/12 04:06 AM

Originally Posted By: Beeson
Originally Posted By: John Johnson
You know 'strength of schedule' has a lot to do with rankings, and rankings have a lot to do with strength of schedule - its becomes a circular argument...just a comment... but I enjoy the rankings and the discussions that follow....


Well then all of the Ark City kids should be bumped up two more places on Strength of Schedule ALONE! grin


I concur. Should also get some strong consideration for intermats Fab 50. IMO
Posted By: Ricky Bobby

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 01/23/12 06:32 AM

Chief,

As it has already been pointed out you need to get Alex Kough of Scott City into the rankings at 120 as he has a head to head win over John Risewick of Norton. I'm sure you'll get some more criteria for him to be in the rankings after the Garden City Tournament.

Another 321Aer at 120 who certainly deserves a ranking in the All-Class is Brandon Ball of Hoisington. Ball picked up a 3rd place finish in a tough bracket at the Hays Tournament. He won by fall over #8 Kevin Arnhold of Hays in the consolation semis. Ball does have two losses, but they are to All-Class ranked wrestlers. This weekend he lost what I assume was a tight match with #1 Isaac Dulgarian of STA at a score of 4 to 1. Prior to that he lost at the Hoisington Tournament in December to #6 Chris Burley of Great Bend.
Posted By: Chief Renegade

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 01/23/12 10:01 AM

Update scheduled for today! Lot's of action this last weekend...
Posted By: Chief Renegade

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 01/23/12 07:28 PM

TEAM RANKINGS:

1. Arkansas City - 5A
2. Andale - 4A
3. Manhattan - 6A
4. Lawrence - 6A
5. St. Thomas Aquinas - 5A
6. Newton - 5A
7. Andover Central - 5A
8. Gardner-Edgerton - 6A
9. Garden City - 6A
10. Hays - 5A


106:
1. Luke Henes - 10 - STA - 5A - 28-1
2. Dakota Leach - 11 - GD - 5A - 24-2
3. Reese Cokeley - 10 - SJA - 4A - 31-5
4. Trey Francka - 11 - CCO - 321A - 26-1
5. Bryce Morgan - 11 - ELD - 4A - 20-2
6. Logan Terrill - 9 - ARK - 5A - 24-6
7. Sean DeShazer - 9 - WH - 6A - 11-3
8. Jase Stone - 11 - MH - 6A - 30-4
9. Tristan Star - 9 - LAW - 6A - 23-6
10t. Jake Goldenstein - 9 - AUG - 4A - 20-1
10t. Parker Howell - 10 - KMC - 5A - 22-2


113:
1. Zac Gentzler - 11 - AC - 5A - 21-0
2. Tyler Mies - 10 - AN - 4A - 22-1
3. Zak Hensley - 9 - SJA - 4A - 20-4
4. Alex Garcia - 12 - DC - 6A - 20-6
5. Jason Perez - 12 - ULY - 4A - 18-2
6. Tevin Briscoe - 9 - GC - 6A - 20-2
7. Javier Vieyra - 12 - SS - 5A - 19-4
8. Hunter Price - 11 - HOL - 4A - 19-2
9. Michael Lindlar - 11 - WNW - 6A - 21-5
10. Adam Cole - 9 - CH - 4A - 22-1


120:
1. Isaac Dulgarian - 9 - STA - 5A - 24-1
2. Dustin Reed - 11 - CLB - 4A - 29-1
3. Tim Prescott - 12 - MCP - 4A - 21-2
4. Alex Kough - 11 - SC - 321A
5. John Risewick - 11 - NOR - 321A
6. Anthony Calderon - 12 - GC - 6A - 19-3
7. Chris Burley - 11 - GB - 5A - 21-2
8. Quinton Harrison - 11 - NEW - 5A - 20-5
9. Brandon Ball - 9 - HOI - 321A - 26-2
10t. Kevin Arnhold - 12 - HAY - 5A - 21-7
10t. Jared Suppes - 11 - DB - 6A - 18-7


126:
1. Austin Hood - 12 - LOU - 4A - 25-0
2. Bryce Shoemaker - 11 - BAL - 4A - 21-3
3. Colby Watters - 12 - ARK - 5A - 19-1
4. TJ Stokes - 12 - GE - 6A - 18-4
5. Michael Olsen - 10 - LS - 5A - 23-5
6. Dylan Schumacher - 12 - TMP - 321A - 21-3
7. Dane Edwards - 11 - DC - 6A - 24-3
8. Hunter Haralson - 11 - LAW - 6A - 23-5
9. Alex Wolf - 12 - SV - 4A - 18-0
10. Lukas Maki - 11 - KMC - 5A - 25-2


132:
1. Bo Pursel - 12 - LS - 5A - 29-0
2. Brogan Humphrey - 10 - FRE - 321A - 22-1
3. Cody Eastman - 11 - ARK - 5A - 26-5
4. Clay Mulligan - 12 - SC - 321A - 19-1
5. Aaron Engles - 12 - AN - 4A - 20-2
6. Andrew Morgan - 12 - BAL - 4A - 22-7
7. Ben Randolph - 12 - SME - 6A - 23-4
8. Kasey Biddle - 11 - CB - 321A - 16-0
9. AJ Hurtado - 11 - GC - 6A - 20-10
10. Jacob Durosette - 10 - FS - 4A


138:
1. Brandon Charbonneau - 12 - EMP - 5A - 25-0
2. Konnor Kriss - 12 - CLB - 4A - 29-2
3. Calvin Ochs - 11 - HOX - 321A - 18-2
4. Tommy Williams - 12 - STA - 5A - 31-2
5. Victor Hughes - 11 - FS - 4A - 30-3
6. Reis Humphrey - 11 - SMS - 6A - 23-2
7. Jake Gehring - 11 - BUH - 4A - 21-3
8. Wyatt Villers - 12 - ARK - 5A - 17-8
9. Brady Heincker - 12 - DB - 6A - 22-3
10. Austin Hughey - 12 - ELD - 4A - 24-2


145:
1. Aaron Seybold - 12 - PT - 4A - 27-2
2. Jonathan Blackwell - 11 - BS - 4A - 25-2
3. Tagen Lambotte - 10 - ROS - 321A - 25-1
4. Dustin Williams - 10 - GE - 6A - 27-3
5. Miles Johns - 12 - NEW - 5A - 24-2
6. Lincoln Lemon - 12 - GD - 5A - 21-5
7. Ben Becker - 11 - DB - 6A - 19-7
8. Devon Dozier - 11 - OZ - 4A
9. Chance Demel - 11 - HOI - 321A - 23-2
10. Gage Younger - 11 - ELL - 321A - 19-3


152:
1. Alex Bontz - 12 - AC - 5A - 21-1
2. Ky Biddle - 12 - CB - 321A - 21-0
3. Tyler McMichael - 12 - ARK - 5A - 4-1
4. Jared Johnson - 11 - PR - 321A - 24-1
5. Rusty Yarrow - 12 - CC - 4A - 24-3
6. Kyle Armstrong - 11 - AN - 4A - 24-2
7. Mark Hobson - 12 - BS - 4A - 24-3
8. Rory Haug - 12 - ON - 6A - 12-0
9. Seth Sharpe - 12 - MUL - 4A - 25-1
10. Razzy Morales - 12 - ULY - 4A - 21-2


160:
1t. Connor Middleton - 12 - ONW - 6A - 22-1
1t. Sam Son - 12 - CH - 4A - 23-0
3. Colton Duhr - 12 - AN - 4A - 19-1
4. Gavin Grater - 10 - CC - 4A - 23-3
5. Eric Albers - 12 - OAK - 321A - 24-0
6. Jacob Eggers - 12 - DC - 6A - 22-4
7. Trey Dice - 12 - ARK - 5A - 16-2
8. Noel Torres - 11 - EMP - 5A - 21-3
9. Bryant Guillen - 11 - SEA - 5A - 15-4
10t. Aaron Puckett - 11 - BS - 4A - 22-3
10t. Hunter Stalford - 12 - CV - 321A - 21-0


170
1. Matt Reed - 12 - WH - 6A - 14-0
2. Levi Eck - 11 - AN - 4A - 24-1
3. Blaine Hill - 12 - SME - 6A - 21-2
4. Preston Weigel - 10 - HAY - 5A - 26-0
5. Nick Pursel - 12 - LAW - 6A - 27-1
6. Brian Wood - 12 - MH - 6A - 27-5
7. Josh Hoch - 12 - BUR - 321A - 22-1
8. Jesse LeMay - 12 - WEL - 321A - 23-2
9. Harrison Gilliland - 11 - PLV - 321A - 13-0
10. Aaron Cool - 12 - SEA - 5A


182:
1. Reece Wright-Conklin - 12 - LAW - 6A - 21-1
2. Spencer Wilson - 11 - LFS - 6A - 19-0
3. Nick Meck - 11 - SH - 5A - 19-2
4. Kane Kelly - 12 - AB - 4A - 27-1
5. Darien Willis - 12 - SUM - 4A - 16-1
6. Tyler Lowe - 12 - EUR - 321A - 16-1
7. Brock Long - 12 - SES - 321A - 11-1
8. Brady Munsch - 12 - SS - 5A
9. Dalton Rodd - 11 - AC - 5A
10. Hunter Weddington - 12 - AND - 5A - 23-2


195:
1. Colt Castlebury - 12 - DOU - 321A - 19-0
2. Laine Herl - 12 - GDL - 321A - 25-0
3. Chad Blair - 11 - VC - 5A - 21-1
4. Ulyesses DeShazer - 12 - WH - 6A - 18-2
5. Shawn Marlatt - 12 - DB - 6A - 20-5
6. Litton VanDerWerff - 12 - LS - 5A - 19-4
7. Alex Stockton - 12 - GE - 6A - 29-3
8. Dillon Archer - 11 - NEW - 5A - 19-3
9. Josh McDowell - 12 - SC - 321A - 21-3
10. Skyler Hittle - 10 - CON - 4A - 26-1


220:
1. Luke Bean - 12 - KMC - 5A - 23-0
2. Nathan Butler - 11 - LV - 6A - 23-1
3. Cash Drylie - 12 - HAY - 5A - 26-1
4. Riley Oharah - 12 - GDL - 321A - 24-1
5. Justin Scott - 10 - JFW - 4A - 21-1
6. Tyler Keller - 12 - WNW - 6A - 21-2
7. Colton Bonner - 12 - BAL - 4A - 24-2
8. Tanner Taylor - 12 - BUR - 321A - 18-1
9. Jordan Brown - 12 - CON - 4A - 21-2
10. Edward Fitzgerald - 12 - SFT - 4A - 19-5


285:
1. Will Geary - 11 - TOP - 6A - 22-0
2. Eric Mason - 12 - STA - 5A - 23-1
3. Luke Hayes - 12 - SC - 321A - 17-0
4. Zach Lanning - 12 - MCP - 4A - 19-2
5. Caleb King - 12 - PIP - 4A - 22-3
6. Broc Bennett - 12 - PT - 4A - 26-5
7. Zach Callahan - 12 - MV - 5A - 23-4
8. Tarez Griffen - 12 - WNW - 6A - 23-1
9. Clay Wilcox - 11 - CHP - 321A - 22-2
10. Jacob English - 12 - BEL - 321A - 18-1
Posted By: smokeycabin

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 01/23/12 08:33 PM

When you calculate all class team ranking - don't you just assign
a value to each ranking? I think that is how they do it with the college rankings for individual tournament scoring/ranking. Or are you looking at total team performance at tournaments - I do like that. It really doesn't matter to me I was just curious how the calculations worked or how it is calculated in each class ranking 6A, 5A, 4A, & 123A. I think in each class a value is assigned to each wrestlers rank and then added up.

Rank 1 = 10 points
Rank 2 = 9 points
Rank 3 = 8 points
Rank 4 = 7 points
Rank 5 = 6 points
Rank 6 = 5 points
Rank 7 = 4 points
Rank 8 = 3 points
Rank 9 = 2 points
Rank 10 = 1 point
Posted By: Chief Renegade

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 01/23/12 10:55 PM

Sean,

Within each class, the starting point for the team ranking starts with the following values for the top six wrestlers.

1st - 20 points
2nd - 14 points
3rd - 10 points
4th - 8 points
5th - 5 points
6th - 3 points

I then add in other team members that will likely score points without placing. In case of ties or very close scores, the number of finalists are usually the tie-breaker. The All-Class team rankings are not calculated quite the same way. These team rankings do not simulate a Grand state scenario. The entire team is still considered. The results of the larger tournaments during the year carry more weight, as the smaller number of teams make the results closer to a dual result. At times, when I release the AC rankings before the class rankings, the AC team ranking could change after I have analyzed the individual classes more closely.
Posted By: Railers91

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 01/24/12 01:28 AM

Chief I know there is always a debate from someone on the all class rankings but I just wonder how martlett could be 3 spots ahead of archer when archer beat him 13-6 and has less losses and they have no commons at least in the traditional sense with martlett having no wins over anyone who has beaten archer.
Posted By: insidetie

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 01/24/12 02:30 AM

Archer lost to Alex Stockton at Holton from GE did he not? Marlatt beat Stockton the week before at Newton?
Posted By: Chief Renegade

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 01/24/12 03:43 AM

Originally Posted By: Railers91
Chief I know there is always a debate from someone on the all class rankings but I just wonder how martlett could be 3 spots ahead of archer when archer beat him 13-6 and has less losses and they have no commons at least in the traditional sense with martlett having no wins over anyone who has beaten archer.


As stated above, Marlatt beat Stockton 7-0 at Newton after Stockton pinned Roberson from LV. Roberson then beat Archer in that same bracket.
Posted By: Like A Boss

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 01/24/12 03:56 AM

This is alex Stockton. and correction i did not wrestle archer at holton, newton was not there. i did however wrestle solomon. (sorry if i miss spelled it. also i wrestled roberson at newton twice pinned the first time and i believe 5-2 (dont quote me on that) however i believe that the rankings are how they should be except for Laine Herl. not to discredit his win over the colorado kid, but i believe that just because he beat someone who beat someone should not give him the second spot. granted his record, someone coming from not being ranked to becoming #2 all class is a huge jumop.
Posted By: Chief Renegade

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 01/24/12 04:05 AM

Laine Herl has criteria over Chad Blair. Blair beat DeShazer. DeShazer has criteria over Stockton and Marlatt. That is why he's ranked at #2.
Posted By: insidetie

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 01/24/12 04:08 AM

At Newton, Roberson beat Archer in consolation semis to wrestle Stockton in consolation finals where he lost. Archer was at BVNW last week not Holton, as Stockton said.
Posted By: Railers91

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 01/24/12 05:14 AM

Ok still not a common archer is 2-2 versus top 5 including a split with Deshazer and a big win over marlatt. He also beat Krier from McPherson who also beat marlatt.That's a head to head and a common over marlatt but the newton situation is correct he lost twice.
Posted By: smokeycabin

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 01/24/12 01:19 PM

The short version of the all class team rankings is a combination of team dual strength and individual all class ranking in Kansas. All class team ranking is not calculated using the same methodology as the individual classes.
Posted By: Ricky Bobby

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 01/24/12 06:46 PM

Chief,

What is keeping Tyler Higgins of Goddard Eisenhower ranked at 182? He just lost this weekend to an unranked 321A wrestler with 6 losses at the Hays Tournament.

Here is the bracket for your entertainment: http://www.hayshighindians.com/athletics/Winter/Wrestling/bkc/brk012.pdf
Posted By: Chief Renegade

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 01/24/12 08:39 PM

Dang RB. He was 13-2 before the weekend. That just jacked up my rankings.

Got it fixed. For your entertainment. smile
Posted By: XGHSWC

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 01/25/12 02:41 PM

Dang RB, kind of hating aren't we.
Higgins is a state medalist, he is definitely solid. And the loss to a "nobody" was a pin, was he "caught". Oh well, a loss is a loss and Higgins is ranked no more. Are you happy?
I believe that all derogatory comments, especially with regard to kids, should be sent in a pm. But each has the right to make his own decisions and say what they see fit I know. I certainly don't want to get caught passing judgement. I can't afford that. I am trying to get to Heaven.
Posted By: Kevin Howell

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 01/25/12 02:56 PM

Originally Posted By: XGHSWC
Dang RB, kind of hating aren't we.
Higgins is a state medalist, he is definitely solid. And the loss to a "nobody" was a pin, was he "caught". Oh well, a loss is a loss and Higgins is ranked no more. Are you happy?
I believe that all derogatory comments, especially with regard to kids, should be sent in a pm. But each has the right to make his own decisions and say what they see fit I know. I certainly don't want to get caught passing judgement. I can't afford that. I am trying to get to Heaven.


X please read your comments on page 7 of this thread and look in the mirror.
Posted By: Crossface King

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 01/25/12 03:01 PM

That nobody placed 2nd at kids state last year. This is his first year on varsity and he has shown daily improvement throughout the season. He is a warrior, who never stops battling, no matter the score or the situation and this mental toughness will serve him well as the season progress's. It is not how you start the season, but how you finish it that matters in the end and as a coach I would gladly take 13 other wrestler's with his heart, because I know such perseverance from a wrestler will lead to success in the end.
Posted By: D.W.

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 01/25/12 03:15 PM

That nobody might be a nobody because of his location, classification, and circle he runs in. It is what it is.
=)
Posted By: Cokeley

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 01/25/12 03:57 PM

Originally Posted By: John Johnson
You know 'strength of schedule' has a lot to do with rankings, and rankings have a lot to do with strength of schedule - its becomes a circular argument...just a comment... but I enjoy the rankings and the discussions that follow....


To me, the strength of your schedule is not so much dependent on ranked Kansas wrestlers but the amount of quality out of state competition you see during the season. SJA wrestlers get at least 50% of their matches against out of state competition and if you haven't noticed, when out of state teams come to Kansas they are usually the guys to beat in the tournament. Competition changes so you have to shake up your schedule and go to the competition because you are not going to find it just wrestling in Johnson County.
Posted By: back in the day

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 01/25/12 04:24 PM

I applaud SJA for going on the road to wrestle the best! In general If you are 35-0 at the end of the year you are not wrestling the toughest competition. (dont let mom Gentzler nor BadBo whoop on me !)


I agree that the out of state teams are usually the guys to beat in the tournaments entered here.

Why do they come to Kansas? To pad their records? Are they looking for solid folk to wrestle that they dont see every week?
Posted By: XGHSWC

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 01/25/12 04:29 PM

[/quote]
Originally Posted By: Kevin Howell
Originally Posted By: XGHSWC
Dang RB, kind of hating aren't we.
Higgins is a state medalist, he is definitely solid. And the loss to a "nobody" was a pin, was he "caught". Oh well, a loss is a loss and Higgins is ranked no more. Are you happy?
I believe that all derogatory comments, especially with regard to kids, should be sent in a pm. But each has the right to make his own decisions and say what they see fit I know. I certainly don't want to get caught passing judgement. I can't afford that. I am trying to get to Heaven.


X please read your comments on page 7 of this thread and look in the mirror.


OMG are you serious? At least you said please. Other than that your comment seems very inappropriate.

Originally Posted By: XGHSWC
10-4 Chief, I get it.
And believe me, I am not trying to break your b..... smile I love the rankings and you are the authority. Its just Leach was #5 and now #8 after Howell dropped. So he dropped even though he didn't lose. I get it, he is #2 in 5A. That would seem logical if we could say for sure that Howell could beat him. I have some reliable sources that would refute that based on some recent practices that both attended. It is all good though. Leach like Peterson like Hughey like etc. will have a chance to prove themselves as actions do speak louder than words.


I am assuming that you are talking about this post since it deals with Parker. I don't understand why you suggest that I look in the mirror. I don't see anything derogatory about it at all, but if you or Parker were offended, then I sincerely apologize. I love Parker. He is a great kid and wrestler. I had the fortune of spending time with him at the junior duals this past summer.

As for the nobody comment above, obviously it was about Gastineau and obviously I wasn't suggesting that he was a nobody as the nobody was written in quotes. RB was suggesting that he was a "nobody" when he suggested that Higgins should be removed because he lost to an unranked wrestler, that being Gastineau. I was being sarcastic, I was not being derogatory. It was more about defending Higgins because he like Leach is one of my home dogs. Sorry for the confusion.

Now as for Leach, still think he should be #1. Yes he split with Henes at Basehor, Henes is definitely bona fide. But who has Henes beaten other than Leach that is ranked, with all due respect? Just asking because I don't know and I don't want to look that up right now. Leach has beaten Francka, Morgan, Stone, Terrill, etc. As was pointed out earlier by Chief when comparing just two wrestlers, a split would push to the last win I guess. But when you are comparing ten wrestlers and look at the body of work, Leach is #1 in my book. But all of our questions will soon be answered won't they because actions speak louder than words. And I am still trying to get to Heaven.
Posted By: sportsfan09

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 01/25/12 04:30 PM

Zac Gentzler placed 2nd at Virginia Beach Nationals,went 10-0 at Junior National Duals , is that not the toughest competition back in the day?
Posted By: back in the day

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 01/25/12 04:36 PM

Give me a break Sporto!!!!!! I said in general!!!!!! and even listed the Gentzlers! and we are talking about High School events during the regular season. Come on man!
Posted By: L.Geyer

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 01/25/12 04:46 PM

Cokeley,
I agree that going out of state to find the best competition will make wrestlers the best they can be. But as discussed other times on this board. Most schools are unable to do this, due to budgets. Private schools such as SJA have many more options to have the opportunities to attend these out of state events, but public schools have to fight to get the "OK" to go to some in-state tourn. because of lack of funding so out of state is not going to happen. Yes I do believe they should attempt to get to the tough tourn. in-state (garden city, Newton, Bobcat etc....) So my belief is that it is not fair to judge how good a wrestler is from Kansas due to out of state competitions, as many dont have this opportunity.

Lance Geyer
Posted By: Chief Renegade

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 01/25/12 04:48 PM

TEAM RANKINGS:

1. Arkansas City - 5A
2. Andale - 4A
3. Manhattan - 6A
4. Lawrence - 6A
5. St. Thomas Aquinas - 5A
6. Newton - 5A
7. Andover Central - 5A
8. Gardner-Edgerton - 6A
9. Garden City - 6A
10. Hays - 5A


106:
1. Luke Henes - 10 - STA - 5A - 28-1
2. Dakota Leach - 11 - GD - 5A - 24-2
3. Reese Cokeley - 10 - SJA - 4A - 31-5
4. Trey Francka - 11 - CCO - 321A - 26-1
5. Bryce Morgan - 11 - ELD - 4A - 20-2
6. Logan Terrill - 9 - ARK - 5A - 24-6
7. Sean DeShazer - 9 - WH - 6A - 11-3
8. Jase Stone - 11 - MH - 6A - 30-4
9. Tristan Star - 9 - LAW - 6A - 23-6
10t. Jake Goldenstein - 9 - AUG - 4A - 20-1
10t. Parker Howell - 10 - KMC - 5A - 22-2


113:
1. Zac Gentzler - 11 - AC - 5A - 21-0
2. Tyler Mies - 10 - AN - 4A - 22-1
3. Zak Hensley - 9 - SJA - 4A - 20-4
4. Alex Garcia - 12 - DC - 6A - 20-6
5. Jason Perez - 12 - ULY - 4A - 18-2
6. Tevin Briscoe - 9 - GC - 6A - 20-2
7. Javier Vieyra - 12 - SS - 5A - 19-4
8. Hunter Price - 11 - HOL - 4A - 19-2
9. Michael Lindlar - 11 - WNW - 6A - 21-5
10. Adam Cole - 9 - CH - 4A - 22-1


120:
1. Isaac Dulgarian - 9 - STA - 5A - 24-1
2. Dustin Reed - 11 - CLB - 4A - 29-1
3. Tim Prescott - 12 - MCP - 4A - 21-2
4. Alex Kough - 11 - SC - 321A
5. John Risewick - 11 - NOR - 321A
6. Anthony Calderon - 12 - GC - 6A - 19-3
7. Chris Burley - 11 - GB - 5A - 21-2
8. Quinton Harrison - 11 - NEW - 5A - 20-5
9. Brandon Ball - 9 - HOI - 321A - 26-2
10t. Kevin Arnhold - 12 - HAY - 5A - 21-7
10t. Jared Suppes - 11 - DB - 6A - 18-7


126:
1. Austin Hood - 12 - LOU - 4A - 25-0
2. Bryce Shoemaker - 11 - BAL - 4A - 21-3
3. Colby Watters - 12 - ARK - 5A - 19-1
4. TJ Stokes - 12 - GE - 6A - 18-4
5. Michael Olsen - 10 - LS - 5A - 23-5
6. Dylan Schumacher - 12 - TMP - 321A - 21-3
7. Dane Edwards - 11 - DC - 6A - 24-3
8. Hunter Haralson - 11 - LAW - 6A - 23-5
9. Alex Wolf - 12 - SV - 4A - 18-0
10. Lukas Maki - 11 - KMC - 5A - 25-2


132:
1. Bo Pursel - 12 - LS - 5A - 29-0
2. Brogan Humphrey - 10 - FRE - 321A - 22-1
3. Cody Eastman - 11 - ARK - 5A - 26-5
4. Clay Mulligan - 12 - SC - 321A - 19-1
5. Aaron Engles - 12 - AN - 4A - 20-2
6. Andrew Morgan - 12 - BAL - 4A - 22-7
7. Ben Randolph - 12 - SME - 6A - 23-4
8. Kasey Biddle - 11 - CB - 321A - 16-0
9. AJ Hurtado - 11 - GC - 6A - 20-10
10. Jacob Durosette - 10 - FS - 4A


138:
1. Brandon Charbonneau - 12 - EMP - 5A - 25-0
2. Konnor Kriss - 12 - CLB - 4A - 29-2
3. Calvin Ochs - 11 - HOX - 321A - 18-2
4. Tommy Williams - 12 - STA - 5A - 31-2
5. Victor Hughes - 11 - FS - 4A - 30-3
6. Reis Humphrey - 11 - SMS - 6A - 23-2
7. Jake Gehring - 11 - BUH - 4A - 21-3
8. Wyatt Villers - 12 - ARK - 5A - 17-8
9. Brady Heincker - 12 - DB - 6A - 22-3
10. Austin Hughey - 12 - ELD - 4A - 24-2


145:
1. Aaron Seybold - 12 - PT - 4A - 27-2
2. Jonathan Blackwell - 11 - BS - 4A - 25-2
3. Tagen Lambotte - 10 - ROS - 321A - 25-1
4. Dustin Williams - 10 - GE - 6A - 27-3
5. Miles Johns - 12 - NEW - 5A - 24-2
6. Lincoln Lemon - 12 - GD - 5A - 21-5
7. Ben Becker - 11 - DB - 6A - 19-7
8. Devon Dozier - 11 - OZ - 4A
9. Chance Demel - 11 - HOI - 321A - 23-2
10. Gage Younger - 11 - ELL - 321A - 19-3


152:
1. Alex Bontz - 12 - AC - 5A - 21-1
2. Ky Biddle - 12 - CB - 321A - 21-0
3. Tyler McMichael - 12 - ARK - 5A - 4-1
4. Jared Johnson - 11 - PR - 321A - 24-1
5. Rusty Yarrow - 12 - CC - 4A - 24-3
6. Kyle Armstrong - 11 - AN - 4A - 24-2
7. Mark Hobson - 12 - BS - 4A - 24-3
8. Rory Haug - 12 - ON - 6A - 12-0
9. Seth Sharpe - 12 - MUL - 4A - 25-1
10. Razzy Morales - 12 - ULY - 4A - 21-2


160:
1t. Connor Middleton - 12 - ONW - 6A - 22-1
1t. Sam Son - 12 - CH - 4A - 23-0
3. Colton Duhr - 12 - AN - 4A - 19-1
4. Gavin Grater - 10 - CC - 4A - 23-3
5. Eric Albers - 12 - OAK - 321A - 24-0
6. Jacob Eggers - 12 - DC - 6A - 22-4
7. Trey Dice - 12 - ARK - 5A - 16-2
8. Noel Torres - 11 - EMP - 5A - 21-3
9. Bryant Guillen - 11 - SEA - 5A - 15-4
10t. Aaron Puckett - 11 - BS - 4A - 22-3
10t. Hunter Stalford - 12 - CV - 321A - 21-0


170
1. Matt Reed - 12 - WH - 6A - 14-0
2. Levi Eck - 11 - AN - 4A - 24-1
3. Blaine Hill - 12 - SME - 6A - 21-2
4. Preston Weigel - 10 - HAY - 5A - 26-0
5. Nick Pursel - 12 - LAW - 6A - 27-1
6. Brian Wood - 12 - MH - 6A - 27-5
7. Josh Hoch - 12 - BUR - 321A - 22-1
8. Jesse LeMay - 12 - WEL - 321A - 23-2
9. Harrison Gilliland - 11 - PLV - 321A - 13-0
10. Aaron Cool - 12 - SEA - 5A


182:
1. Reece Wright-Conklin - 12 - LAW - 6A - 21-1
2. Spencer Wilson - 11 - LFS - 6A - 19-0
3. Nick Meck - 11 - SH - 5A - 19-2
4. Kane Kelly - 12 - AB - 4A - 27-1
5. Darien Willis - 12 - SUM - 4A - 16-1
6. Tyler Lowe - 12 - EUR - 321A - 16-1
7. Brock Long - 12 - SES - 321A - 11-1
8. Brady Munsch - 12 - SS - 5A - 24-4
9. Dalton Rodd - 11 - AC - 5A- 12-7
10. Hunter Weddington - 12 - AND - 5A - 23-2


195:
1. Colt Castlebury - 12 - DOU - 321A - 19-0
2. Laine Herl - 12 - GDL - 321A - 25-0
3. Chad Blair - 11 - VC - 5A - 21-1
4. Ulyesses DeShazer - 12 - WH - 6A - 18-2
5. Shawn Marlatt - 12 - DB - 6A - 20-5
6. Litton VanDerWerff - 12 - LS - 5A - 19-4
7. Alex Stockton - 12 - GE - 6A - 29-3
8. Dillon Archer - 11 - NEW - 5A - 19-3
9. Josh McDowell - 12 - SC - 321A - 21-3
10. Skyler Hittle - 10 - CON - 4A - 26-1


220:
1. Luke Bean - 12 - KMC - 5A - 23-0
2. Nathan Butler - 11 - LV - 6A - 23-1
3. Cash Drylie - 12 - HAY - 5A - 26-1
4. Riley Oharah - 12 - GDL - 321A - 24-1
5. Tyler Keller - 12 - WNW - 6A - 21-2
6. Colton Bonner - 12 - BAL - 4A - 24-2
7. Tanner Taylor - 12 - BUR - 321A - 18-1
8. Justin Scott - 10 - JFW - 4A - 21-1
9. Jordan Brown - 12 - CON - 4A - 21-2
10. Edward Fitzgerald - 12 - SFT - 4A - 19-5


285:
1. Will Geary - 11 - TOP - 6A - 22-0
2. Eric Mason - 12 - STA - 5A - 23-1
3. Luke Hayes - 12 - SC - 321A - 17-0
4. Zach Lanning - 12 - MCP - 4A - 19-2
5. Caleb King - 12 - PIP - 4A - 22-3
6. Broc Bennett - 12 - PT - 4A - 26-5
7. Zach Callahan - 12 - MV - 5A - 23-4
8. Tarez Griffen - 12 - WNW - 6A - 23-1
9. Clay Wilcox - 11 - CHP - 321A - 22-2
10. Jacob English - 12 - BEL - 321A - 18-1
Posted By: Scooter

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 01/25/12 04:51 PM



But who has Henes beaten other than Leach that is ranked, with all due respect?

Stone, Star, Cokeley, Leach in all class. You could sure go either way with Henes or Leach, good news is they are both in 5A, so we might get to see, assuming they can get by Howell and/or Terrill.
Posted By: XGHSWC

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 01/25/12 05:03 PM

Originally Posted By: Scooter


But who has Henes beaten other than Leach that is ranked, with all due respect?

Stone, Star, Cokeley, Leach in all class. You could sure go either way with Henes or Leach, good news is they are both in 5A, so we might get to see, assuming they can get by Howell and/or Terrill.


10-4 and thanks for the info.
So it appears that #1 is well earned and deserved by Henes. They are certainly close, but all those All-Class guys are. And Leach and Henes might meet to settle the score, yes assuming they get by Howell and Terrill.
Posted By: Chief Renegade

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 01/25/12 05:27 PM

Originally Posted By: XGHSWC
But who has Henes beaten other than Leach that is ranked, with all due respect?


Henes has beaten:

Leach 1-1
Cokeley
Stone
Star 2X
Scott
Mueller
Greider who is 21-4 - a 15-0 tech fall.



Originally Posted By: XGHSWC
And I am still trying to get to Heaven.


Good intentions and good deeds will not get us there. It's true repentance of our sins and putting our faith and trust in the finished work and person of the Lord Jesus Christ alone!

You know you're one of my favorite brother's Randy!
Posted By: doug747

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 01/25/12 05:35 PM

"Good intentions and good deeds will not get us there. It's true repentance of our sins and putting our faith and trust in the finished work and person of the Lord Jesus Christ alone!"

Shoot, I thought not eating meat on Fridays during Lent would get me there..............I better step it up
Posted By: Beeson

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 01/25/12 05:43 PM

I gave up getting there a LONG TIME ago....;)
Posted By: Dean Welsh

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 01/25/12 05:43 PM

Ha. Good one. ;-)

Romans 4:5
Posted By: lazyman_1

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 01/25/12 06:07 PM

Out of state competition is great but I can't stand the mentality that competing out of state is the greatest and toughest thing a wrestler or team can do in season. Sorry to break the news to you folks but Kansas has some damn good wrestlers also.

I would say all bordering states with kansas are very similar on a competitive level. I would give Kansas the edge in most cases.

Nebraska - Kansas is 2-3 levels tougher
Missouri - I would give Kansas a slight edge
Oklahoma - Depends on the year. But I did just listen to Dan Gable's commentary during the Okie State vs Iowa dual. Gable took time during the dual to talk about John Smith not being able to get the quality Oklahoma kids to his program that he once did.
Colorado - Kansas 1-3 levels tougher.

I would put good money on many Kansas wrestlers who are currently undefeated wrestling SJA's schedule and at the end of the year would still be undefeated. Nothing against SJA but you keep reminding everybody how tough the competition is you wrestle.

Not trying to take anything away from teams seeking competition and or wrestling out of state. But keep it in perspective. High school kids do not make and the schedules and most the time the coaches don't have much say either. But Kansas kids can compete and have proven it and will continue to.
Posted By: back in the day

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 01/25/12 06:20 PM

I agree - why do all of those out of state teams come to Kansas to wrestle at the GE, Bobcat, Netwon, Garden City, and others?
Posted By: Chief Renegade

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 01/25/12 06:34 PM

Originally Posted By: lazyman_1

Nebraska - Kansas is 2-3 levels tougher
Missouri - I would give Kansas a slight edge
Oklahoma - Depends on the year. But I did just listen to Dan Gable's commentary during the Okie State vs Iowa dual. Gable took time during the dual to talk about John Smith not being able to get the quality Oklahoma kids to his program that he once did.
Colorado - Kansas 1-3 levels tougher.


Nebraska - I agree
Missouri - Not quite
Oklahoma - No KS team can hang with Union.
Colorado - Watch Garden City this weekend.
Posted By: Cokeley

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 01/25/12 06:39 PM

Originally Posted By: lazyman_1
Out of state competition is great but I can't stand the mentality that competing out of state is the greatest and toughest thing a wrestler or team can do in season. Sorry to break the news to you folks but Kansas has some damn good wrestlers also.

I would say all bordering states with kansas are very similar on a competitive level. I would give Kansas the edge in most cases.

Nebraska - Kansas is 2-3 levels tougher
Missouri - I would give Kansas a slight edge
Oklahoma - Depends on the year. But I did just listen to Dan Gable's commentary during the Okie State vs Iowa dual. Gable took time during the dual to talk about John Smith not being able to get the quality Oklahoma kids to his program that he once did.
Colorado - Kansas 1-3 levels tougher.

I would put good money on many Kansas wrestlers who are currently undefeated wrestling SJA's schedule and at the end of the year would still be undefeated. Nothing against SJA but you keep reminding everybody how tough the competition is you wrestle.

Not trying to take anything away from teams seeking competition and or wrestling out of state. But keep it in perspective. High school kids do not make and the schedules and most the time the coaches don't have much say either. But Kansas kids can compete and have proven it and will continue to.



I am really busy today and I am not sure a response as ridiculous this even deserves any of my time.

I don't know who you are so it is hard for me to understand how credible your opinion might be. Of course, the most ridiculous posts come from those who wish to remain unknown.

Last year's Metro Classic 41-19 Missouri. This year's Bobcat: 35 teams, 30 from Kansas and five from out of state. Four of the top 5 were out of state. 14 of 28 finalist were out of state.

Gardner, the top four teams from Gardner were from out of state. No finalist from KS until 145.

Yes, Oklahoma is down. We might be close to them now but we are still behind them. Tulsa Union crushes are best teams. We are ahead of Nebraska but we have a million more people. Lets just look at KC, MO. Blue Springs and Park Hill would crush our best teams. Colorado...lets talk about them after the Garden City tournament. You didn't mention Iowa... Your thoughts? KS is behind. There are great wrestlers in Kansas but the competition is spotty.
Posted By: XGHSWC

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 01/25/12 06:53 PM

Originally Posted By: XGHSWC
And I am still trying to get to Heaven.


Good intentions and good deeds will not get us there. It's true repentance of our sins and putting our faith and trust in the finished work and person of the Lord Jesus Christ alone!

You know you're one of my favorite brother's Randy![/quote]

That's what I'm talking about Chief.
Thanks for the blessing and vote of confidence. I feel much better now. I kind of had my dauber down with that mirror comment, cut like a knife.
Posted By: XGHSWC

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 01/25/12 06:55 PM

Originally Posted By: doug747
"Good intentions and good deeds will not get us there. It's true repentance of our sins and putting our faith and trust in the finished work and person of the Lord Jesus Christ alone!"

Shoot, I thought not eating meat on Fridays during Lent would get me there..............I better step it up


Yes doug747, you better step it up.
Posted By: XGHSWC

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 01/25/12 06:57 PM

Originally Posted By: Beeson
I gave up getting there a LONG TIME ago....;)


No Beeson, never give up because I want to see you there.
Posted By: cicici

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 01/25/12 07:50 PM

220:
1. Luke Bean - 12 - KMC - 5A - 23-0
2. Nathan Butler - 11 - LV - 6A - 23-1
3. Cash Drylie - 12 - HAY - 5A - 26-1
4. Riley Oharah - 12 - GDL - 321A - 24-1
5. Justin Scott - 10 - JFW - 4A - 21-1
6. Tyler Keller - 12 - WNW - 6A - 21-2
7. Colton Bonner - 12 - BAL - 4A - 24-2
8. Tanner Taylor - 12 - BUR - 321A - 18-1
9. Jordan Brown - 12 - CON - 4A - 21-2
10. Edward Fitzgerald - 12 - SFT - 4A - 19-5

Justin Scott? looks like he is having a great season so far and forgive me but i dont know if i have heard of him before. Maybe its my age but just wondering who this young man as beat on this list and who is one lose is to?

Not meaning anything bad towards him i was just curious because he caught my eye.
Posted By: doug747

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 01/25/12 08:41 PM

I don't know how to take this. Are you saying I am a trouble maker and need to repent? Beeson at least got some encouragement from you? What, you don't want to see me there? Freaking 5a guys........ I think you like Beeson more than me. And you and me have the same hair do!!? What the heck? Thought we were better buddies than this.......I'm P O'd

I'm going to stock up on fish...........The other day, I actually turned my underwear right side out for my wife, so she didn't have to look at the hash mark while they were laying in the hamper. That has to get me some points somewhere.....
Posted By: sportsfan02

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 01/25/12 10:41 PM

Originally Posted By: Cokeley

We are ahead of Nebraska but we have a million more people.

NOW WAIT a minute! I have been trying to use population differences for years to explain why we finish in the top 10 as opposed to the top 3 team-wise in any number of national competitions. You have always said in effect that population shouldn't matter.
Posted By: Chief Renegade

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 01/25/12 11:08 PM

Originally Posted By: cicici
220:
1. Luke Bean - 12 - KMC - 5A - 23-0
2. Nathan Butler - 11 - LV - 6A - 23-1
3. Cash Drylie - 12 - HAY - 5A - 26-1
4. Riley Oharah - 12 - GDL - 321A - 24-1
5. Tyler Keller - 12 - WNW - 6A - 21-2
6. Colton Bonner - 12 - BAL - 4A - 24-2
7. Tanner Taylor - 12 - BUR - 321A - 18-1
8. Justin Scott - 10 - JFW - 4A - 21-1
9. Jordan Brown - 12 - CON - 4A - 21-2
10. Edward Fitzgerald - 12 - SFT - 4A - 19-5

Justin Scott? looks like he is having a great season so far and forgive me but i dont know if i have heard of him before. Maybe its my age but just wondering who this young man as beat on this list and who is one lose is to?

Not meaning anything bad towards him i was just curious because he caught my eye.


He has beaten Fitzgerald and lost to Tanner Taylor.
Posted By: Cokeley

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 01/25/12 11:09 PM

Chalk one up for Sport0. I was waiting for that. I put a little cheese out there for you. Nebraska has lots of problems in their non HS wrestling organizations. It seems OK has been experiencing some of that too of late. My issue with KS is that we have gone backwards in the last 10 years. I still think the single biggest improvement would be to allow coaches to have contact with their kids from March-Sept.
Posted By: bug

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 01/25/12 11:46 PM

I would say overall Kansas is ahead of Colorado.
Posted By: John Johnson

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 01/26/12 01:06 AM

Remember, normally only the best in out-of-state teams travel. What comes to the Bobcat and a few other tourneys are not necessarily representative of the whole state. You can't make a determination on the quality of one state vs another on these few teams. However, the very top end of Missouri is real tough -but, they have rooms that never stop running and run practices all year long. As they told us at Oak Park (Victory) after Fargo, we will run practice as long as kids show up. And, there were no new fees. Until Kansas starts taking it serious like that, we will have trouble with their top end, but we can sure compete with everyone else.

And, I have watched Justin Scott (Jeff West) for years - if he is not ranked this year - he will be next.
Posted By: XGHSWC

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 01/26/12 01:12 AM

Originally Posted By: doug747
I don't know how to take this. Are you saying I am a trouble maker and need to repent? Beeson at least got some encouragement from you? What, you don't want to see me there? Freaking 5a guys........ I think you like Beeson more than me. And you and me have the same hair do!!? What the heck? Thought we were better buddies than this.......I'm P O'd

I'm going to stock up on fish...........The other day, I actually turned my underwear right side out for my wife, so she didn't have to look at the hash mark while they were laying in the hamper. That has to get me some points somewhere.....


How ever you take it doug747, don't take it bad. I am definitely not saying you are a trouble maker, in fact quite the opposite. As much as I like Beeson, how could I ever like him more than you (don't get offended Beeson). You said that you need to step it up doug747, insinuating that you weren't going to get to Heaven if you didn't. So I said yes, you need to step it up. Why, because I definitely want to see you there. Hopefully you will be there waiting for me with open arms and a great big smile (not necessarily saying that I want to outlive you or that I want you to pass before me). Is that encouragement enough? Hopefully. But you are right about 5A, I have always been a 5A guy at heart. 5A rocks, and Ark City rolls, and rules, and Beeson destroys, and Biddle is the man whether Ark City or Winfield, and Goddard was 5A when they won their first state title, and they are 5A again, etc. and obviously 5A is the best, just look at Chief's rankings, and Andover Central beasts but don't like that they hijacked AC because AC used to be Ark City before Andover Central was Andover Central and now Ark City is Ark and Andover Central is AC and that's confusing. But Andale is awesome for sure, and so are their kids and families and fans, even though they are just 4A. And yes, we do have the same hair do but you still look better in a visor and I have always been a bit jealous about that. Yes we are buds, but don't think it's a man crush or anything, even if it is, or isn't. So don't be P O'd. And are we having too much fun, and is that wrong?

Now as for the fish and the underwear, not sure what to say about that but I am sure you have points stored, is it enough I don't know. But I drink a lot of coffee, and I love chili dogs, and I really love that other thing, Billy Ross knows what I am talking about because I know that he loves it too. I am a heck raiser, I am on a tear. No I'm not, really, because I really am trying to get to Heaven, sincerely, and I hope all my buds are there too.
Posted By: westwrestling

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 01/26/12 01:14 AM

I heard the head coach from Park Hill tell me a few years ago after they had just one state and were all working out. GOOD IS THE ENEMY OF GREAT!
Posted By: XGHSWC

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 01/26/12 01:19 AM

Originally Posted By: bug
I would say overall Kansas is ahead of Colorado.


I would to, I don't see how we couldn't be. We place ahead of them every year at senior nationals and junior duals and Fargo. They are like skiing and rodeo, not that there is anything wrong with rodeo right badbo.
Posted By: Beeson

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 01/26/12 01:37 AM

Originally Posted By: XGHSWC
Originally Posted By: doug747
I don't know how to take this. Are you saying I am a trouble maker and need to repent? Beeson at least got some encouragement from you? What, you don't want to see me there? Freaking 5a guys........ I think you like Beeson more than me. And you and me have the same hair do!!? What the heck? Thought we were better buddies than this.......I'm P O'd

I'm going to stock up on fish...........The other day, I actually turned my underwear right side out for my wife, so she didn't have to look at the hash mark while they were laying in the hamper. That has to get me some points somewhere.....


How ever you take it doug747, don't take it bad. I am definitely not saying you are a trouble maker, in fact quite the opposite. As much as I like Beeson, how could I ever like him more than you (don't get offended Beeson). You said that you need to step it up doug747, insinuating that you weren't going to get to Heaven if you didn't. So I said yes, you need to step it up. Why, because I definitely want to see you there. Hopefully you will be there waiting for me with open arms and a great big smile (not necessarily saying that I want to outlive you or that I want you to pass before me). Is that encouragement enough? Hopefully. But you are right about 5A, I have always been a 5A guy at heart. 5A rocks, and Ark City rolls, and rules, and Beeson destroys, and Biddle is the man whether Ark City or Winfield, and Goddard was 5A when they won their first state title, and they are 5A again, etc. and obviously 5A is the best, just look at Chief's rankings, and Andover Central beasts but don't like that they hijacked AC because AC used to be Ark City before Andover Central was Andover Central and now Ark City is Ark and Andover Central is AC and that's confusing. But Andale is awesome for sure, and so are their kids and families and fans, even though they are just 4A. And yes, we do have the same hair do but you still look better in a visor and I have always been a bit jealous about that. Yes we are buds, but don't think it's a man crush or anything, even if it is, or isn't. So don't be P O'd. And are we having too much fun, and is that wrong?

Now as for the fish and the underwear, not sure what to say about that but I am sure you have points stored, is it enough I don't know. But I drink a lot of coffee, and I love chili dogs, and I really love that other thing, Billy Ross knows what I am talking about because I know that he loves it too. I am a heck raiser, I am on a tear. No I'm not, really, because I really am trying to get to Heaven, sincerely, and I hope all my buds are there too.


With so many references to Ark City, this could possibly be the post of the year...BRAVO.
Posted By: Cokeley

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 01/26/12 01:45 AM

Originally Posted By: XGHSWC
Originally Posted By: bug
I would say overall Kansas is ahead of Colorado.


I would to, I don't see how we couldn't be. We place ahead of them every year at senior nationals and junior duals and Fargo. They are like skiing and rodeo, not that there is anything wrong with rodeo right badbo.


Ark City and Andale will have to prove that out for you this weekend. I think, top to bottom, Colorado is better than us. They do not attend national events well but they are tough at RTOC and all of their own events. It is tough to travel there because the altitude is a killer.
Posted By: doug747

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 01/26/12 01:46 AM

I don't think that's coffee you're drinkin............
Posted By: doug747

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 01/26/12 01:50 AM

And it is quite obvious that schools starting with an A are dominant in wrestling this year. 3 of the top 10 schools start with A, and the other 25 letters of the alphabet can only muster 7 COMBINED.............
Posted By: XGHSWC

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 01/26/12 02:06 AM

Originally Posted By: Cokeley
Originally Posted By: XGHSWC
Originally Posted By: bug
I would say overall Kansas is ahead of Colorado.


I would to, I don't see how we couldn't be. We place ahead of them every year at senior nationals and junior duals and Fargo. They are like skiing and rodeo, not that there is anything wrong with rodeo right badbo.


Ark City and Andale will have to prove that out for you this weekend. I think, top to bottom, Colorado is better than us. They do not attend national events well but they are tough at RTOC and all of their own events. It is tough to travel there because the altitude is a killer.


True that Will, me and my boy know that first hand.
Posted By: XGHSWC

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 01/26/12 02:13 AM

Originally Posted By: doug747
I don't think that's coffee you're drinkin............


Promise you it is doug747, that is my drug, caffeine, along with chili dogs and that other thing I was talking about, Buddie.
Posted By: Chief Renegade

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 01/26/12 12:28 PM

TEAM RANKINGS:

1. Arkansas City - 5A
2. Andale - 4A
3. Manhattan - 6A
4. Lawrence - 6A
5. St. Thomas Aquinas - 5A
6. Newton - 5A
7. Andover Central - 5A
8. Gardner-Edgerton - 6A
9. Garden City - 6A
10. Hays - 5A


106:
1. Luke Henes - 10 - STA - 5A - 28-1
2. Dakota Leach - 11 - GD - 5A - 24-2
3. Reese Cokeley - 10 - SJA - 4A - 31-5
4. Trey Francka - 11 - CCO - 321A - 26-1
5. Bryce Morgan - 11 - ELD - 4A - 20-2
6. Logan Terrill - 9 - ARK - 5A - 24-6
7. Sean DeShazer - 9 - WH - 6A - 11-3
8. Jase Stone - 11 - MH - 6A - 30-4
9. Tristan Star - 9 - LAW - 6A - 23-6
10t. Jake Goldenstein - 9 - AUG - 4A - 20-1
10t. Parker Howell - 10 - KMC - 5A - 22-2


113:
1. Zac Gentzler - 11 - AC - 5A - 25-0
2. Tyler Mies - 10 - AN - 4A - 22-1
3. Zak Hensley - 9 - SJA - 4A - 20-4
4. Alex Garcia - 12 - DC - 6A - 20-6
5. Jason Perez - 12 - ULY - 4A - 18-2
6. Tevin Briscoe - 9 - GC - 6A - 20-2
7. Javier Vieyra - 12 - SS - 5A - 19-4
8. Hunter Price - 11 - HOL - 4A - 19-2
9. Michael Lindlar - 11 - WNW - 6A - 21-5
10. Adam Cole - 9 - CH - 4A - 22-1


120:
1. Isaac Dulgarian - 9 - STA - 5A - 24-1
2. Dustin Reed - 11 - CLB - 4A - 29-1
3. Tim Prescott - 12 - MCP - 4A - 21-2
4. Alex Kough - 11 - SC - 321A
5. John Risewick - 11 - NOR - 321A
6. Anthony Calderon - 12 - GC - 6A - 19-3
7. Chris Burley - 11 - GB - 5A - 21-2
8. Quinton Harrison - 11 - NEW - 5A - 20-5
9. Brandon Ball - 9 - HOI - 321A - 26-2
10t. Kevin Arnhold - 12 - HAY - 5A - 21-7
10t. Jared Suppes - 11 - DB - 6A - 18-7


126:
1. Austin Hood - 12 - LOU - 4A - 25-0
2. Bryce Shoemaker - 11 - BAL - 4A - 21-3
3. Colby Watters - 12 - ARK - 5A - 19-1
4. TJ Stokes - 12 - GE - 6A - 18-4
5. Michael Olsen - 10 - LS - 5A - 23-5
6. Dylan Schumacher - 12 - TMP - 321A - 21-3
7. Dane Edwards - 11 - DC - 6A - 24-3
8. Hunter Haralson - 11 - LAW - 6A - 23-5
9. Alex Wolf - 12 - SV - 4A - 18-0
10. Lukas Maki - 11 - KMC - 5A - 25-2


132:
1. Bo Pursel - 12 - LS - 5A - 29-0
2. Brogan Humphrey - 10 - FRE - 321A - 22-1
3. Cody Eastman - 11 - ARK - 5A - 26-5
4. Clay Mulligan - 12 - SC - 321A - 19-1
5. Aaron Engles - 12 - AN - 4A - 20-2
6. Andrew Morgan - 12 - BAL - 4A - 22-7
7. Ben Randolph - 12 - SME - 6A - 23-4
8. Kasey Biddle - 11 - CB - 321A - 16-0
9. AJ Hurtado - 11 - GC - 6A - 20-10
10. Jacob Durosette - 10 - FS - 4A - 16-4


138:
1. Brandon Charbonneau - 12 - EMP - 5A - 25-0
2. Konnor Kriss - 12 - CLB - 4A - 29-2
3. Calvin Ochs - 11 - HOX - 321A - 18-2
4. Tommy Williams - 12 - STA - 5A - 31-2
5. Victor Hughes - 11 - FS - 4A - 30-3
6. Reis Humphrey - 11 - SMS - 6A - 23-2
7. Jake Gehring - 11 - BUH - 4A - 21-3
8. Wyatt Villers - 12 - ARK - 5A - 17-8
9. Brady Heincker - 12 - DB - 6A - 22-3
10. Austin Hughey - 12 - ELD - 4A - 24-2


145:
1. Aaron Seybold - 12 - PT - 4A - 27-2
2. Jonathan Blackwell - 11 - BS - 4A - 25-2
3. Tagen Lambotte - 10 - ROS - 321A - 25-1
4. Dustin Williams - 10 - GE - 6A - 27-3
5. Miles Johns - 12 - NEW - 5A - 24-2
6. Lincoln Lemon - 12 - GD - 5A - 21-5
7. Ben Becker - 11 - DB - 6A - 19-7
8. Devon Dozier - 11 - OZ - 4A - 15-2
9. Chance Demel - 11 - HOI - 321A - 23-2
10. Gage Younger - 11 - ELL - 321A - 19-3


152:
1. Alex Bontz - 12 - AC - 5A - 21-1
2. Ky Biddle - 12 - CB - 321A - 21-0
3. Tyler McMichael - 12 - ARK - 5A - 4-1
4. Jared Johnson - 11 - PR - 321A - 24-1
5. Rusty Yarrow - 12 - CC - 4A - 24-3
6. Kyle Armstrong - 11 - AN - 4A - 24-2
7. Mark Hobson - 12 - BS - 4A - 24-3
8. Rory Haug - 12 - ON - 6A - 12-0
9. Seth Sharpe - 12 - MUL - 4A - 25-1
10. Razzy Morales - 12 - ULY - 4A - 21-2


160:
1t. Connor Middleton - 12 - ONW - 6A - 22-1
1t. Sam Son - 12 - CH - 4A - 23-0
3. Colton Duhr - 12 - AN - 4A - 19-1
4. Gavin Grater - 10 - CC - 4A - 23-3
5. Eric Albers - 12 - OAK - 321A - 24-0
6. Jacob Eggers - 12 - DC - 6A - 22-4
7. Trey Dice - 12 - ARK - 5A - 16-2
8. Noel Torres - 11 - EMP - 5A - 21-3
9. Bryant Guillen - 11 - SEA - 5A - 15-4
10t. Aaron Puckett - 11 - BS - 4A - 22-3
10t. Hunter Stalford - 12 - CV - 321A - 21-0


170
1. Matt Reed - 12 - WH - 6A - 14-0
2. Levi Eck - 11 - AN - 4A - 24-1
3. Blaine Hill - 12 - SME - 6A - 21-2
4. Preston Weigel - 10 - HAY - 5A - 26-0
5. Nick Pursel - 12 - LAW - 6A - 27-1
6. Brian Wood - 12 - MH - 6A - 27-5
7. Josh Hoch - 12 - BUR - 321A - 22-1
8. Jesse LeMay - 12 - WEL - 321A - 23-2
9. Harrison Gilliland - 11 - PLV - 321A - 13-0
10. Aaron Cool - 12 - SEA - 5A - 21-6


182:
1. Reece Wright-Conklin - 12 - LAW - 6A - 21-1
2. Spencer Wilson - 11 - LFS - 6A - 19-0
3. Nick Meck - 11 - SH - 5A - 19-2
4. Kane Kelly - 12 - AB - 4A - 27-1
5. Darien Willis - 12 - SUM - 4A - 16-1
6. Tyler Lowe - 12 - EUR - 321A - 16-1
7. Brock Long - 12 - SES - 321A - 11-1
8. Brady Munsch - 12 - SS - 5A - 24-4
9. Dalton Rodd - 11 - AC - 5A- 12-7
10. Hunter Weddington - 12 - AND - 5A - 23-2


195:
1. Colt Castlebury - 12 - DOU - 321A - 19-0
2. Laine Herl - 12 - GDL - 321A - 25-0
3. Chad Blair - 11 - VC - 5A - 21-1
4. Ulyesses DeShazer - 12 - WH - 6A - 18-2
5. Shawn Marlatt - 12 - DB - 6A - 20-5
6. Litton VanDerWerff - 12 - LS - 5A - 19-4
7. Alex Stockton - 12 - GE - 6A - 29-3
8. Dillon Archer - 11 - NEW - 5A - 19-3
9. Josh McDowell - 12 - SC - 321A - 21-3
10. Skyler Hittle - 10 - CON - 4A - 26-1


220:
1. Luke Bean - 12 - KMC - 5A - 23-0
2. Nathan Butler - 11 - LV - 6A - 23-1
3. Cash Drylie - 12 - HAY - 5A - 26-1
4. Riley Oharah - 12 - GDL - 321A - 24-1
5. Tyler Keller - 12 - WNW - 6A - 21-2
6. Colton Bonner - 12 - BAL - 4A - 24-2
7. Tanner Taylor - 12 - BUR - 321A - 18-1
8. Justin Scott - 10 - JFW - 4A - 21-1
9. Jordan Brown - 12 - CON - 4A - 21-2
10. Edward Fitzgerald - 12 - SFT - 4A - 19-5


285:
1. Will Geary - 11 - TOP - 6A - 22-0
2. Eric Mason - 12 - STA - 5A - 23-1
3. Luke Hayes - 12 - SC - 321A - 17-0
4. Zach Lanning - 12 - MCP - 4A - 19-2
5. Caleb King - 12 - PIP - 4A - 22-3
6. Broc Bennett - 12 - PT - 4A - 26-5
7. Zach Callahan - 12 - MV - 5A - 23-4
8. Tarez Griffen - 12 - WNW - 6A - 23-1
9. Clay Wilcox - 11 - CHP - 321A - 22-2
10. Jacob English - 12 - BEL - 321A - 18-1
Posted By: Billy Madison

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 01/27/12 04:29 PM

Originally Posted By: John Johnson
Remember, normally only the best in out-of-state teams travel. What comes to the Bobcat and a few other tourneys are not necessarily representative of the whole state. You can't make a determination on the quality of one state vs another on these few teams. However, the very top end of Missouri is real tough -but, they have rooms that never stop running and run practices all year long. As they told us at Oak Park (Victory) after Fargo, we will run practice as long as kids show up. And, there were no new fees. Until Kansas starts taking it serious like that, we will have trouble with their top end, but we can sure compete with everyone else.


HI wink

And, I have watched Justin Scott (Jeff West) for years - if he is not ranked this year - he will be next.

Posted By: XGHSWC

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 01/27/12 07:01 PM

OMG, it's bad enough we have Ricky Bobby, now we have Billy Madison too.
What's next, Austin Powers?
Posted By: nastyway

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 01/28/12 03:34 PM

Will did AC and andale prove it yet looks like it to me 1and 2nd at garden city just saying its good to see the best wrestling in the state is back in the central part of the state
Posted By: J. Dale

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 01/28/12 03:37 PM

How about Joe Dirt?
Posted By: Billy Madison

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 01/28/12 10:25 PM

Originally Posted By: XGHSWC
OMG, it's bad enough we have Ricky Bobby, now we have Billy Madison too.
What's next, Austin Powers?


Your Just A Silly Willy wink wink <3
Posted By: XGHSWC

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 01/29/12 02:56 AM

Yes, you are right, some times I am.
I just cannot resist the urge.
Posted By: Railers91

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 01/29/12 06:59 AM

Ark City great Newton really good in 2nd Andale good just missed out on Kansas sweep in Garden with Pine Creek just ahead of Andale in 3rd. Kansas represented well.
Posted By: Cokeley

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 01/29/12 02:35 PM

Originally Posted By: nastyway
Will did AC and andale prove it yet looks like it to me 1and 2nd at garden city just saying its good to see the best wrestling in the state is back in the central part of the state


I would say Colorado is down after watching this weekend. Although Pine Creek was missing three starters (I was told they were top shelf) and none of the teams attending this year are ranked #1 in Colorado. In the past there were multiple wrestlers ranked nationally from Colorado, this year there were none and only one Natinoally ranked wrestler in the tournament, Mascarenas from Cleveland, NM.

One interesting Colorado note: Bear Creek's 170lber was 27-0 and ranked #1 in Colorado. His coach didn't argue for a seed and he ended up going 2-2.

Canyon Randal, TX and Rio Rancho, NM were absent this year and I would say overall, based on the attending the last five years, I would say the competition was not as tough this year and I would say the Bobcat was MUCH tougher top to bottom.
Posted By: wrestle nuts

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 01/29/12 06:19 PM

Sounds like your trying to take credit away from the teams and kids that worked hard to make that medal round.
Posted By: nastyway

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 01/29/12 06:23 PM

If St James won this tournament it would have been the toughest tournament around and just because a team from out of state didn't win coakley will make some excuse why it wasn't that tuff
Posted By: Chief Renegade

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 01/29/12 06:52 PM

Cokeley's post was straight up factual. There was only one nationally ranked kid. One year there was 8. Nasty, were you there last year? Have you been to any of these tournaments? Obviously you weren't thinking before you posted.
Posted By: wrestle nuts

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 01/29/12 07:31 PM

It probably is a true statement but you can only wrestle who's there and bringing it up after the fact makes it sound like your making the accomplishment worth less.
Posted By: sportsfan02

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 01/29/12 08:14 PM

Originally Posted By: wrestle nuts
It probably is a true statement but you can only wrestle who's there and bringing it up after the fact makes it sound like your making the accomplishment worth less.

In fairness to Will, when it comes to dissing Kansas wrestling, he does it before, during and after the fact!
Posted By: XGHSWC

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 01/29/12 08:17 PM

Well, obviously to me the Bobcat was much much tougher, no disrespect.
145 had 4 state champions, a state runner up, a state bronze and at least 2 placers that I know of, many qualifiers. GC had no champions, ZERO. Newton had none either.
This is just one weight I know, but definitely GC was down and BL was up.
And my post is not designed to take credit away from anybodys medals. It is designed to give proper credit to my son and everyone else who got a medal at Basehor-Linwood, a true accomplishment, no disrespect.
Posted By: XGHSWC

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 01/29/12 08:22 PM

Originally Posted By: sportsfan02
Originally Posted By: wrestle nuts
It probably is a true statement but you can only wrestle who's there and bringing it up after the fact makes it sound like your making the accomplishment worth less.

In fairness to Will, when it comes to dissing Kansas wrestling, he does it before, during and after the fact!


I don't believe that Will is ever intending to dis Kansas wrestling.
If he were, he would be saying that his son's state championships have no value.
Will usually just calls a spade a spade.
Posted By: Butch Drylie

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 01/30/12 12:13 AM

I dont know if im blind or just to dumb to see what you guys mean. At 220 Bobcat had three number 2 seeds as the top 3 seeds.
At Garden City 220 Top seed #1 Kid and retuning state champion.
2nd seed #2 kid returning state placer.
3rd seed #1 kid returning state runner up.
Some one tell me how the bobcat is tougher?

Butch Drylie
785-650-4404
Posted By: Railers91

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 01/30/12 12:20 AM

That 170lber from Bear Creek CO that was 27-0 and ranked 1 in Colorado and seeded maybe 5 was beaten 8-4 by a freshman from Newton named Jared Langley. My point is Kansas has some pretty good wrestlers too weather they are nationally ranked or not. Dillon Archer beat Brandon Tribble state runner up from Pine creek colorado 9-3 in finals.
Posted By: Quagmire

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 01/30/12 01:46 AM

Originally Posted By: Butch Drylie
I dont know if im blind or just to dumb to see what you guys mean. At 220 Bobcat had three number 2 seeds as the top 3 seeds.
At Garden City 220 Top seed #1 Kid and retuning state champion.
2nd seed #2 kid returning state placer.
3rd seed #1 kid returning state runner up.
Some one tell me how the bobcat is tougher?

Butch Drylie
785-650-4404


The Bobcat is tougher because teams like Blue Springs and Collinsville are tougher than the out of state teams that were at Garden City. Face it, the competition this year at Garden City was levels below what it has been in the past.
Posted By: Cokeley

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 01/30/12 02:38 AM

Originally Posted By: nastyway
If St James won this tournament it would have been the toughest tournament around and just because a team from out of state didn't win coakley will make some excuse why it wasn't that tuff


For the past four years I have stated and supported with data that the Rocky Welton was the toughest Kansas High School tournament. People argued for Newton and The Bobcat. This year Garden City was not tougher than The Bobcat. Just a fact. No offense to anyone who won but not every tournament can be the toughest one, only one can. I don't believe there was a two time state champ in the gym (active HS wrestlers). Last year 140,145,152 were won by Moeder, Himmelman, Cokeley. All three D1 wrestlers and 10 state championships between them. I could list more data for each of the past three years if you need to see it. Just the facts.

In this stream a discussion regarding the status of Kansas wrestling versus surrounding states was created and I said this tournament would be an indicator of how we matched up against Colorado. Not totally but some data to work with. I admitted that Colorado was down.

Hats off to Greg Buckbee. He had his boys ready to go and they bested all comers. He told me before the tournament they were going to win and I predicted Pine Creek (I didn't know they were missing three starters). I told him he was right and congratulated him. He took a video of this and said he was going to post it on youtube.com. smile

I do everything I can to elevate the level of Kansas HS wrestling starting with kids on up. I am not out to ridicule but the facts are the facts. Why make someone feel falsely secure about their status if you know it is not the truth?

I would give up trying to post facts but then the nameless, faceless posters like nastyway wouldn't have anyone to take cheap shots at. Then there would be no fun on the forum.

No disrespect meant to any champions but the winner of the SMN Invitational is not normally going to be on the same level as a champion at Garden City, Newton, or the Bobcat.

(Butch, Cash is a great wrestler and I think 220 might have been as good at GC but as I stated, TOP TO BOTTOM. If Justin McPhail would have been there I would have said hands down GC was tougher!)

I have never tried to glorify a tournament just because SJA was there. That was a ridiculous statement. I will tell you that SJA wants to attend the toughest tournaments they can so we hit the Bobcat and Garden City just as Andale does. If you want to be the best you have to wrestle the best. Nasty go ahead and argue with that!
Posted By: Butch Drylie

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 01/30/12 02:38 AM

Quagmire, Blue Springs or Collinville never won 220 the Baldwin ks kid did. I specificly said 220 weight class never stated anything else, or any other weight class so now answer my question about 220 weight class at bobcat versus 220 weight class at garden city.

Butch Drylie
785-650-4404
Posted By: Quagmire

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 01/30/12 03:10 AM

Bobcat was deeper than Garden City at 220. The Baldwin kid is a grinder I wouldn't have been surprised if he would have won 220 at Garden City as well.
My question to you is, did anyone specifically say 220 at Bobcat was tougher or did you just feel like bringing it up?
No body said any specific weight was tougher just that Bobcat as whole tournament was more competitive than Garden City this year. If you would like I can tell you which weights were tougher at which tournament IMO.
Posted By: Butch Drylie

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 01/30/12 03:52 AM

Quagmire thank you for the answer and im glad that you agree with me that the bobcat was deeper down on the list of rankings than the garden city was. As far as The baldwin winning or not time will tell because there will be head to head matches at state. You just stated as a whole it was tougher, i singled out the only weight my kid wrestles at because i now the kids at that weight from Mo., Ok., Co., and Ks. If I state that something is tougher than something else i will have my ducks in a row to back them. I just pointed out 220 because it makes the statement as a whole false. To make the statement that one tournament is better than another tounament you need to have the winner of every weight class from the first one wrestle in the second one and you will know for certain how it turns out. This never happened so all we have to go off of is rankings and head to head competition. Cash beat Colton so i believe we have head to head won. With that said Garden City was not tougher than the bobcat at 220 weight class? If you need any more information you can call me on my phone i am man enough to put my number down to back my facts.

Butch Drylie
785-650-4404
Posted By: Butch Drylie

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 01/30/12 04:19 AM

Will, you know i dont post on here very often but when i do i have facts to back my posts. I am shocked that you singled out cash because i have never said anything to down grade you or your kids ever. i have backed you many times when people have bashed you for speeking your voice. Im sorry to burst your bubble but justin wont be at state this year he is letting his knee heal up so he can play football in college next year.I wished he was so people like you wouldnt be able to dwell on the past. Will, anyone can say if so and so was there this wouldnt of happened. He was not and it didnt happen. You of all people are big on the facts, i can't believe you stooped that low to bash cash unbelievable. We as parents and coaches should be looking to the future of these kids not back in the past.

Very Shocked
Butch Drylie
785-650-4404
Posted By: Chief Renegade

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 01/30/12 11:50 AM

Overall, The Bobcat was tougher. At 220, GC was tougher in my opinion. Bobcat 126 was tougher than any weight at GC. GC 120 was dang tough. GC 132 was plenty deep as well as 113.

Congrats to Ark City! Greg has it going down there!
Posted By: Chief Renegade

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 01/30/12 12:44 PM

Originally Posted By: Butch Drylie
Will, you know i dont post on here very often but when i do i have facts to back my posts. I am shocked that you singled out cash
Very Shocked
Butch Drylie
785-650-4404


Butch,

Am I missing something? I cannot find anywhere that Will said anything negative about Cash! He complimented him. We all love Cash. He was a hero at the Junior Duals. All Will said was, if McPhail was there at GC, 220 would have been a tougher bracket. Nothing about him beating Cash or anything. I know that Will has always spoken highly of your kid.

You should re-think that one...

- Chief
Posted By: effwhyeye

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 01/30/12 12:55 PM

I thought this was the All Class Ranking thread?!?!
Posted By: Chief Renegade

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 01/30/12 01:18 PM

Originally Posted By: effwhyeye
I thought this was the All Class Ranking thread?!?!


Good point! I'm working on them now...
Posted By: sportsfan02

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 01/30/12 01:31 PM

Originally Posted By: Chief Renegade
Originally Posted By: Butch Drylie
Will, you know i dont post on here very often but when i do i have facts to back my posts. I am shocked that you singled out cash
Very Shocked
Butch Drylie
785-650-4404


Butch,

Am I missing something? I cannot find anywhere that Will said anything negative about Cash! He complimented him. We all love Cash. He was a hero at the Junior Duals. All Will said was, if McPhail was there at GC, 220 would have been a tougher bracket. Nothing about him beating Cash or anything. I know that Will has always spoken highly of your kid.

You should re-think that one...

- Chief

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ov-1S8Xxd94
Posted By: L.Geyer

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 01/30/12 01:36 PM

Now thats funny. I needed a good laugh on a Monday morning. Now back to the All Class Rankings, I think there should be some changes this week.
Posted By: Chief Renegade

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 01/30/12 07:38 PM

TEAM RANKINGS:

1. Arkansas City - 5A
2. St. Thomas Aquinas - 5A
3. Newton - 5A
4. Andale - 4A
5. Garden City - 6A
6. Lawrence - 6A
7. Manhattan - 6A
8. Andover Central - 5A
9. Gardner-Edgerton - 6A
10. McPherson - 4A


106:
1. Luke Henes - 10 - STA - 5A - 33-1
2. Dakota Leach - 11 - GD - 5A - 24-2
3. Trey Francka - 11 - CCO - 321A - 26-1
4. Logan Terrill - 9 - ARK - 5A - 31-6
5. Bryce Morgan - 11 - ELD - 4A - 20-2
6. Reese Cokeley - 10 - SJA - 4A - 35-5
7. Jase Stone - 11 - MH - 6A - 30-4
8. Jake Goldenstein - 9 - AUG - 4A - 25-1
9. Tristan Star - 9 - LAW - 6A - 28-6
10t. Sean DeShazer - 9 - WH - 6A - 14-4
10t. Parker Howell - 10 - KMC - 5A - 22-2


113:
1. Zac Gentzler - 11 - AC - 5A - 28-0
2. Tyler Mies - 10 - AN - 4A - 26-2
3. Zak Hensley - 9 - SJA - 4A - 20-4
4. Alex Garcia - 12 - DC - 6A - 25-7
5. Tevin Briscoe - 9 - GC - 6A - 25-4
6. Jason Perez - 12 - ULY - 4A - 21-4
7. Javier Vieyra - 12 - SS - 5A - 19-4
8. Hunter Price - 11 - HOL - 4A - 21-4
9. Michael Lindlar - 11 - WNW - 6A - 23-5
10. Joey Defore - 10 - CB - 321A - 21-0


120:
1. Isaac Dulgarian - 9 - STA - 5A - 32-1
2. Dustin Reed - 11 - CLB - 4A - 29-1
3. Tim Prescott - 12 - MCP - 4A - 21-2
4. Alex Kough - 11 - SC - 321A
5. John Risewick - 11 - NOR - 321A - 25-4
6. Chris Burley - 11 - GB - 5A - 25-3
7. Anthony Calderon - 12 - GC - 6A - 24-5
8. Quinton Harrison - 11 - NEW - 5A - 23-7
9. Brandon Ball - 9 - HOI - 321A - 26-2
10t. Kevin Arnhold - 12 - HAY - 5A - 21-7
10t. Jared Suppes - 11 - DB - 6A - 18-7


126:
1. Austin Hood - 12 - LOU - 4A - 28-0
2. Bryce Shoemaker - 11 - BAL - 4A - 23-4
3. Colby Watters - 12 - ARK - 5A - 24-1
4. TJ Stokes - 12 - GE - 6A - 18-4
5. Michael Olsen - 10 - LS - 5A - 23-5
6. Dylan Schumacher - 12 - TMP - 321A - 21-3
7. Dane Edwards - 11 - DC - 6A - 28-4
8. Hunter Haralson - 11 - LAW - 6A - 28-5
9. Alex Wolf - 12 - SV - 4A - 18-0
10. Lukas Maki - 11 - KMC - 5A - 33-2


132:
1. Bo Pursel - 12 - LS - 5A - 33-0
2. Brogan Humphrey - 10 - FRE - 321A - 27-1
3. Cody Eastman - 11 - ARK - 5A - 30-6
4. Clay Mulligan - 12 - SC - 321A - 26-2
5. Kasey Biddle - 11 - CB - 321A - 19-1
6. Aaron Engles - 12 - AN - 4A - 23-3
7. Andrew Morgan - 12 - BAL - 4A - 25-8
8. AJ Hurtado - 11 - GC - 6A - 22-13
9. Ben Randolph - 12 - SME - 6A - 27-5
10. Jacob Durosette - 10 - FS - 4A - 16-4


138:
1. Brandon Charbonneau - 12 - EMP - 5A - 31-0
2. Konnor Kriss - 12 - CLB - 4A - 29-2
3. Calvin Ochs - 11 - HOX - 321A - 23-2
4. Tommy Williams - 12 - STA - 5A - 35-3
5. Victor Hughes - 11 - FS - 4A - 30-3
6. Reis Humphrey - 11 - SMS - 6A - 23-2
7. Jake Gehring - 11 - BUH - 4A - 21-3
8. Wyatt Villers - 12 - ARK - 5A - 22-9
9. Brady Heincker - 12 - DB - 6A - 25-3
10. Austin Hughey - 12 - ELD - 4A - 27-2


145:
1. Aaron Seybold - 12 - PT - 4A - 31-2
2. Jonathan Blackwell - 11 - BS - 4A - 25-2
3. Tagen Lambotte - 10 - ROS - 321A - 25-1
4. Dustin Williams - 10 - GE - 6A - 27-3
5. Miles Johns - 12 - NEW - 5A - 28-2
6. Lincoln Lemon - 12 - GD - 5A - 25-6
7. Ben Becker - 11 - DB - 6A - 22-8
8. Devon Dozier - 11 - OZ - 4A - 20-2
9. Chance Demel - 11 - HOI - 321A - 26-2
10. Lawson Fiss - 11 - HUG - 4A - 26-3


152:
1. Alex Bontz - 12 - AC - 5A - 26-1
2. Ky Biddle - 12 - CB - 321A - 25-0
3. Tyler McMichael - 12 - ARK - 5A - 9-2
4. Jared Johnson - 11 - PR - 321A - 24-1
5. Rusty Yarrow - 12 - CC - 4A - 24-3
6. Kyle Armstrong - 11 - AN - 4A - 29-3
7. Mark Hobson - 12 - BS - 4A - 24-3
8. Rory Haug - 12 - ON - 6A - 17-1
9. Seth Sharpe - 12 - MUL - 4A - 25-1
10. Razzy Morales - 12 - ULY - 4A - 24-4
10t. Patrick Weaver - 11 - HUG - 4A - 21-5


160:
1t. Connor Middleton - 12 - ONW - 6A - 29-1
1t. Sam Son - 12 - CH - 4A - 28-0
3. Colton Duhr - 12 - AN - 4A - 24-1
4. Gavin Grater - 10 - CC - 4A - 23-3
5. Eric Albers - 12 - OAK - 321A - 27-0
6. Trey Dice - 12 - ARK - 5A - 21-3
7. Noel Torres - 11 - EMP - 5A - 25-4
8. Jon Heiman - 12 - GC - 6A - 5-2
9. Bryant Guillen - 11 - SEA - 5A - 15-4
10t. Aaron Puckett - 11 - BS - 4A - 22-3
10t. Hunter Stalford - 12 - CV - 321A - 26-1


170
1. Matt Reed - 12 - WH - 6A - 17-0
2. Levi Eck - 11 - AN - 4A - 28-1
3. Blaine Hill - 12 - SME - 6A - 26-2
4. Preston Weigel - 10 - HAY - 5A - 30-1
5. Nick Pursel - 12 - LAW - 6A - 31-2
6. Brian Wood - 12 - MH - 6A - 27-5
7. Josh Hoch - 12 - BUR - 321A - 27-1
8. Jesse LeMay - 12 - WEL - 321A - 29-2
9. Harrison Gilliland - 11 - PLV - 321A - 16-0
10. Aaron Cool - 12 - SEA - 5A - 25-6


182:
1. Reece Wright-Conklin - 12 - LAW - 6A - 25-2
2. Spencer Wilson - 11 - LFS - 6A - 22-1
3. Nick Meck - 11 - SH - 5A - 28-2
4. Kane Kelly - 12 - AB - 4A - 30-2
5. Darien Willis - 12 - SUM - 4A - 16-1
6. Tyler Lowe - 12 - EUR - 321A - 19-1
7. Brock Long - 12 - SES - 321A - 11-1
8. Brady Munsch - 12 - SS - 5A - 24-4
9. Dalton Rodd - 11 - AC - 5A- 17-6
10. Hunter Weddington - 12 - AND - 5A - 27-3


195:
1. Laine Herl - 12 - GDL - 321A - 25-0
2. Chad Blair - 11 - VC - 5A - 26-1
3. Ulyesses DeShazer - 12 - WH - 6A - 22-2
4. Shawn Marlatt - 12 - DB - 6A - 22-5
5. Colt Castlebury - 12 - DOU - 321A - 26-1
6. Litton VanDerWerff - 12 - LS - 5A - 21-5
7. Alex Stockton - 12 - GE - 6A - 29-3
8. Dillon Archer - 11 - NEW - 5A - 19-3
9. Josh McDowell - 12 - SC - 321A - 24-3
10. Skyler Hittle - 10 - CON - 4A - 30-2


220:
1. Luke Bean - 12 - KMC - 5A - 36-0
2. Nathan Butler - 11 - LV - 6A - 28-1
3. Cash Drylie - 12 - HAY - 5A - 30-1
4. Riley Oharah - 12 - GDL - 321A - 24-1
5. Tyler Keller - 12 - WNW - 6A - 26-3
6. Colton Bonner - 12 - BAL - 4A - 27-2
7. Tanner Taylor - 12 - BUR - 321A - 24-1
8. Justin Scott - 10 - JFW - 4A - 24-1
9. Jordan Brown - 12 - CON - 4A - 26-2
10. Colten Lissolo - 12 - HUG - 4A - 2-1


285:
1. Will Geary - 11 - TOP - 6A - 24-0
2. Eric Mason - 12 - STA - 5A - 29-1
3. Luke Hayes - 12 - SC - 321A - 21-0
4. Zach Lanning - 12 - MCP - 4A - 19-2
5. Zach Callahan - 12 - MV - 5A - 29-4
6. Broc Bennett - 12 - PT - 4A - 26-5
7. Tarez Griffen - 12 - WNW - 6A - 23-1
8. Clay Wilcox - 11 - CHP - 321A - 22-2
9. Jesse Colver - 11 - LV - 6A - 18-7
10. Caleb King - 12 - PIP - 4A - 25-5
Posted By: wrestle nuts

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 01/30/12 08:20 PM

Andale takes 4th at garden city and stays at 2
Posted By: Railers91

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 01/30/12 08:31 PM

Not only that Newton faces them twice and beats them by 60 and 25. They are a fine team and do have some finalists but it's hard to see them ahead of Newton though they are high up there.
Posted By: powercat1

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 01/30/12 09:31 PM

1-26-12
220:
1. Luke Bean - 12 - KMC - 5A - 23-0

1-30-12
220:
1. Luke Bean - 12 - KMC - 5A - 36-0

13 wins in the last 4 days impressive
Posted By: Kevin Howell

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 01/30/12 10:21 PM

I believe the Chief simply did not have Luke Beans complete record on the 26th due to lack of results being posted. I can assure you from the 26th thru the 28th he recorded one decision and 4 pins. I did see them first hand.
Posted By: Chief Renegade

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 01/30/12 10:30 PM

Originally Posted By: powercat1
1-26-12
220:
1. Luke Bean - 12 - KMC - 5A - 23-0

1-30-12
220:
1. Luke Bean - 12 - KMC - 5A - 36-0

13 wins in the last 4 days impressive


I attempt to update every wrestler's record at the update. Bean's record was better than the 1/26 release. I saw the same thing and went back through his season. It looks correct.
Posted By: Chief Renegade

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 01/30/12 10:38 PM

Originally Posted By: Railers91
Not only that Newton faces them twice and beats them by 60 and 25. They are a fine team and do have some finalists but it's hard to see them ahead of Newton though they are high up there.


Lawrence has it over Newton and Andale has it over Lawrence. The addition of out of state teams at Garden City and Newton, change the dynamics. It has a lot to do who they met in the semis. Aside from Ark City, the next five teams are very close!
Posted By: wrestle nuts

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 01/30/12 11:02 PM

No out of state teams at Bishop Carrol

Newton 191, Wichita Northwest 162, Andale 132.5, Mulvane 118.5, Wichita Heights 113,
Dodge City 88.5, Salina South 84.5, Bishop Carroll 55, Campus 54.5, Pratt 44.5, Winfield 39,
Wichita North 31, Halstead 16, Wichita Independent 4
Posted By: ReDPloyd

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 01/30/12 11:22 PM

Originally Posted By: Railers91
Not only that Newton faces them twice and beats them by 60 and 25. They are a fine team and do have some finalists but it's hard to see them ahead of Newton though they are high up there.

The rankings are great and I enjoy keeping up on the individuals and teams. When it comes to the State Tournament, the rankings go out the window and everyone starts with a clean slate for those two days. Andale is a great program, but if I was a Newton fan right now, I would be a little more concerned about how we match up against Ark City, not to mention STA and Andover Central.
Posted By: ReDPloyd

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 01/30/12 11:44 PM

By the way, I have seen plenty of Newton at two tough tournaments this year, and they are very good from top to bottom. The point of my previous post was, don't be too concerned about a team you won't see at State. I could be wrong, but I don't think team awards are passed out at the end of the year for the All Class Rankings.
Posted By: Railers91

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 01/30/12 11:56 PM

Ya Hartman Arena will be a fun place to be the last weekend in febuary. The focus is definitely back to 5a and getting through a tough regional.
Posted By: Chief Renegade

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 01/31/12 12:02 AM

Originally Posted By: wrestle nuts
No out of state teams at Bishop Carrol

Newton 191, Wichita Northwest 162, Andale 132.5, Mulvane 118.5, Wichita Heights 113,
Dodge City 88.5, Salina South 84.5, Bishop Carroll 55, Campus 54.5, Pratt 44.5, Winfield 39,
Wichita North 31, Halstead 16, Wichita Independent 4


With 14 total teams, seven of them contending teams, these type of tournaments are much closer to dual results than state tournaments. That is NOT a slight to Newton. They have got it going this year. They don't need any pandering comments.
Posted By: ReDPloyd

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 01/31/12 12:11 AM

Originally Posted By: Chief Renegade
Originally Posted By: Railers91
Not only that Newton faces them twice and beats them by 60 and 25. They are a fine team and do have some finalists but it's hard to see them ahead of Newton though they are high up there.


Lawrence has it over Newton and Andale has it over Lawrence. The addition of out of state teams at Garden City and Newton, change the dynamics. It has a lot to do who they met in the semis. Aside from Ark City, the next five teams are very close!

Great point about the dynamics of a tournament changing because of the teams that are in it. Same goes for individual brackets. You have to realize that a wrestler may come into a tournament dinged up or comes down with an illness the day of a tournament but still chooses to wrestle. Same for a wrestler that just has an off day, but I would say that injury and illness play a bigger part in the outcome of some matches.
Posted By: doug747

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 01/31/12 02:04 AM

I personally disagree with Andale being ranked ahead of Newton, but I can also see Chief's reasoning. Here is a breakdown of how the GC tourney went for Andale and Newton:

Newton:
106 Open
113 2 losses both to out of state kids
120 2 losses neither of which were to out of state kids
126 2 losses neither of which were to out of state kids
132 2 losses, neither of which were to out of state kids
138 2 losses, neither of which were to out of state kids
145 0 losses, Johns champ
152 2 losses, one on the backside to out of state kid
160 2 losses, one on the backside to out of state kid
170 2 losses one on the backside to out of state kid
182- 2 losses, one on the backside to out of state kid
195 0 losses, Archer champ
220 2 losses, one on the backside to out of state kid
285 2 losses, one on the backside to out of state kid
Total losses-22
Losses to out of state kids-8

Andale:
106-2 losses, both to out of state
113-1 loss to out of state kid
120-open
126 2 losses, neither to out of state kids
132 2 losses, one on front side to out of state kid
138-2 losses, both to out of state kids
145-open
152 1 loss to in state kid
160 0 losses, Duhr champ
170 0 losses, champ
182 open
195 open
220 open
285 2 losses, none to out of state kids
Total losses-12
Losses to out of state kids-6

What does this show? Probably nothing other than we have too many open weights to ever do well at a dual, but we have 4 kids capable of making the finals at most tourneys. And 3 more kids capable of scoring team points deep into most tourneys.

Newton probably has fewer finalist possibilities, but 5-6 kids capable of scoring team points deep into most tourneys.

Bottom line is that I can see why Chief is struggling with these team rankings from 2-6. And I wish he would just put Newton ahead of us so we don't have to hear people complaining that Newton should be ahead of Andale every Sunday morning........

Reality is that these rankings don't make a rat's a$$, and all of us need to concentrate on our own class's regional and state competition. Cause those are the only ones that give out team trophies that really mean anything. wink
Posted By: HEADUP

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 01/31/12 12:53 PM

Lee and Doug said it....time to concentrate on winning matches, not rankings.

like my old football coach used to tell us "Rankings are based on what happened in the past. Can you see the forrest for the trees?"
Posted By: EverythingGoes

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 01/31/12 03:27 PM

Well 13 wins or 5 wins still impressive before this season is over i say butler from lv and bean from kmc wrestle.
Posted By: Chief Renegade

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 01/31/12 03:37 PM

Originally Posted By: EverythingGoes
Well 13 wins or 5 wins still impressive before this season is over i say butler from lv and bean from kmc wrestle.


Let's set up two matches at Cokeley's barn...

Luke Bean vs. Nathan Butler

Connor Middleton vs. Sam Son
Posted By: Chief Renegade

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 01/31/12 03:49 PM

The All-Class Team rankings will be CHANGING! I have finished 4A and 6A. I am working on 5A right now...
Posted By: Chief Renegade

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 01/31/12 08:03 PM

TEAM RANKINGS:

1. Arkansas City - 5A
2. St. Thomas Aquinas - 5A
3. Newton - 5A
4. Andale - 4A (Lost a ranked wrestler to injury)
5. Garden City - 6A
6. Lawrence - 6A
7. Manhattan - 6A
8. Andover Central - 5A
9. Gardner-Edgerton - 6A
10. McPherson - 4A


106:
1. Luke Henes - 10 - STA - 5A - 33-1
2. Dakota Leach - 11 - GD - 5A - 24-2
3. Trey Francka - 11 - CCO - 321A - 26-1
4. Logan Terrill - 9 - ARK - 5A - 31-6
5. Bryce Morgan - 11 - ELD - 4A - 20-2
6. Reese Cokeley - 10 - SJA - 4A - 35-5
7. Jase Stone - 11 - MH - 6A - 30-4
8. Jake Goldenstein - 9 - AUG - 4A - 25-1
9. Tristan Star - 9 - LAW - 6A - 28-6
10t. Sean DeShazer - 9 - WH - 6A - 14-4
10t. Parker Howell - 10 - KMC - 5A - 22-2


113:
1. Zac Gentzler - 11 - AC - 5A - 28-0
2. Tyler Mies - 10 - AN - 4A - 26-2
3. Zak Hensley - 9 - SJA - 4A - 20-4
4. Alex Garcia - 12 - DC - 6A - 25-7
5. Tevin Briscoe - 9 - GC - 6A - 25-4
6. Jason Perez - 12 - ULY - 4A - 21-4
7. Javier Vieyra - 12 - SS - 5A - 19-4
8. Hunter Price - 11 - HOL - 4A - 21-4
9. Michael Lindlar - 11 - WNW - 6A - 23-5
10. Joey Defore - 10 - CB - 321A - 21-0


120:
1. Isaac Dulgarian - 9 - STA - 5A - 32-1
2. Dustin Reed - 11 - CLB - 4A - 29-1
3. Tim Prescott - 12 - MCP - 4A - 21-2
4. Alex Kough - 11 - SC - 321A
5. John Risewick - 11 - NOR - 321A - 25-4
6. Chris Burley - 11 - GB - 5A - 25-3
7. Anthony Calderon - 12 - GC - 6A - 24-5
8. Quinton Harrison - 11 - NEW - 5A - 23-7
9. Brandon Ball - 9 - HOI - 321A - 26-2
10t. Kevin Arnhold - 12 - HAY - 5A - 21-7
10t. Jared Suppes - 11 - DB - 6A - 18-7


126:
1. Austin Hood - 12 - LOU - 4A - 28-0
2. Bryce Shoemaker - 11 - BAL - 4A - 23-4
3. Colby Watters - 12 - ARK - 5A - 24-1
4. TJ Stokes - 12 - GE - 6A - 18-4
5. Michael Olsen - 10 - LS - 5A - 23-5
6. Dylan Schumacher - 12 - TMP - 321A - 21-3
7. Dane Edwards - 11 - DC - 6A - 28-4
8. Hunter Haralson - 11 - LAW - 6A - 28-5
9. Alex Wolf - 12 - SV - 4A - 18-0
10. Lukas Maki - 11 - KMC - 5A - 33-2


132:
1. Bo Pursel - 12 - LS - 5A - 33-0
2. Brogan Humphrey - 10 - FRE - 321A - 27-1
3. Cody Eastman - 11 - ARK - 5A - 30-6
4. Clay Mulligan - 12 - SC - 321A - 26-2
5. Kasey Biddle - 11 - CB - 321A - 19-1
6. Aaron Engles - 12 - AN - 4A - 23-3
7. Andrew Morgan - 12 - BAL - 4A - 25-8
8. AJ Hurtado - 11 - GC - 6A - 22-13
9. Ben Randolph - 12 - SME - 6A - 27-5
10. Jacob Durosette - 10 - FS - 4A - 16-4


138:
1. Brandon Charbonneau - 12 - EMP - 5A - 31-0
2. Konnor Kriss - 12 - CLB - 4A - 29-2
3. Calvin Ochs - 11 - HOX - 321A - 23-2
4. Tommy Williams - 12 - STA - 5A - 35-3
5. Victor Hughes - 11 - FS - 4A - 30-3
6. Reis Humphrey - 11 - SMS - 6A - 23-2
7. Jake Gehring - 11 - BUH - 4A - 21-3
8. Wyatt Villers - 12 - ARK - 5A - 22-9
9. Brady Heincker - 12 - DB - 6A - 25-3
10. Austin Hughey - 12 - ELD - 4A - 27-2


145:
1. Aaron Seybold - 12 - PT - 4A - 31-2
2. Jonathan Blackwell - 11 - BS - 4A - 25-2
3. Tagen Lambotte - 10 - ROS - 321A - 25-1
4. Dustin Williams - 10 - GE - 6A - 27-3
5. Miles Johns - 12 - NEW - 5A - 28-2
6. Lincoln Lemon - 12 - GD - 5A - 25-6
7. Ben Becker - 11 - DB - 6A - 22-8
8. Devon Dozier - 11 - OZ - 4A - 20-2
9. Chance Demel - 11 - HOI - 321A - 26-2
10. Lawson Fiss - 11 - HUG - 4A - 26-3


152:
1. Alex Bontz - 12 - AC - 5A - 26-1
2. Ky Biddle - 12 - CB - 321A - 25-0
3. Tyler McMichael - 12 - ARK - 5A - 9-2
4. Jared Johnson - 11 - PR - 321A - 24-1
5. Rusty Yarrow - 12 - CC - 4A - 24-3
6. Kyle Armstrong - 11 - AN - 4A - 29-3
7. Mark Hobson - 12 - BS - 4A - 24-3
8. Rory Haug - 12 - ON - 6A - 17-1
9. Seth Sharpe - 12 - MUL - 4A - 25-1
10. Razzy Morales - 12 - ULY - 4A - 24-4
10t. Patrick Weaver - 11 - HUG - 4A - 21-5


160:
1t. Connor Middleton - 12 - ONW - 6A - 29-1
1t. Sam Son - 12 - CH - 4A - 28-0
3. Colton Duhr - 12 - AN - 4A - 24-1
4. Gavin Grater - 10 - CC - 4A - 23-3
5. Eric Albers - 12 - OAK - 321A - 27-0
6. Trey Dice - 12 - ARK - 5A - 21-3
7. Noel Torres - 11 - EMP - 5A - 25-4
8. Jon Heiman - 12 - GC - 6A - 5-2
9. Bryant Guillen - 11 - SEA - 5A - 15-4
10t. Aaron Puckett - 11 - BS - 4A - 22-3
10t. Hunter Stalford - 12 - CV - 321A - 26-1


170
1. Matt Reed - 12 - WH - 6A - 17-0
2. Levi Eck - 11 - AN - 4A - 28-1
3. Blaine Hill - 12 - SME - 6A - 26-2
4. Preston Weigel - 10 - HAY - 5A - 30-1
5. Nick Pursel - 12 - LAW - 6A - 31-2
6. Brian Wood - 12 - MH - 6A - 27-5
7. Josh Hoch - 12 - BUR - 321A - 27-1
8. Jesse LeMay - 12 - WEL - 321A - 29-2
9. Harrison Gilliland - 11 - PLV - 321A - 16-0
10. Aaron Cool - 12 - SEA - 5A - 25-6


182:
1. Reece Wright-Conklin - 12 - LAW - 6A - 25-2
2. Spencer Wilson - 11 - LFS - 6A - 22-1
3. Nick Meck - 11 - SH - 5A - 28-2
4. Kane Kelly - 12 - AB - 4A - 30-2
5. Darien Willis - 12 - SUM - 4A - 16-1
6. Tyler Lowe - 12 - EUR - 321A - 19-1
7. Brock Long - 12 - SES - 321A - 11-1
8. Brady Munsch - 12 - SS - 5A - 24-4
9. Dalton Rodd - 11 - AC - 5A- 17-6
10. Hunter Weddington - 12 - AND - 5A - 27-3


195:
1. Laine Herl - 12 - GDL - 321A - 25-1
2. Chad Blair - 11 - VC - 5A - 26-1
3. Ulyesses DeShazer - 12 - WH - 6A - 22-2
4. Shawn Marlatt - 12 - DB - 6A - 22-5
5. Colt Castlebury - 12 - DOU - 321A - 26-1
6. Litton VanDerWerff - 12 - LS - 5A - 21-5
7. Alex Stockton - 12 - GE - 6A - 29-3
8. Dillon Archer - 11 - NEW - 5A - 19-3
9. Josh McDowell - 12 - SC - 321A - 24-3
10. Skyler Hittle - 10 - CON - 4A - 30-2


220:
1. Luke Bean - 12 - KMC - 5A - 36-0
2. Nathan Butler - 11 - LV - 6A - 28-1
3. Cash Drylie - 12 - HAY - 5A - 30-1
4. Riley Oharah - 12 - GDL - 321A - 24-1
5. Tyler Keller - 12 - WNW - 6A - 26-3
6. Colton Bonner - 12 - BAL - 4A - 27-2
7. Tanner Taylor - 12 - BUR - 321A - 24-1
8. Justin Scott - 10 - JFW - 4A - 24-1
9. Jordan Brown - 12 - CON - 4A - 26-2
10. Colten Lissolo - 12 - HUG - 4A - 2-1


285:
1. Will Geary - 11 - TOP - 6A - 24-0
2. Eric Mason - 12 - STA - 5A - 29-1
3. Luke Hayes - 12 - SC - 321A - 21-0
4. Zach Lanning - 12 - MCP - 4A - 19-2
5. Zach Callahan - 12 - MV - 5A - 29-4
6. Broc Bennett - 12 - PT - 4A - 26-5
7. Tarez Griffen - 12 - WNW - 6A - 23-1
8. Clay Wilcox - 11 - CHP - 321A - 22-2
9. Jesse Colver - 11 - LV - 6A - 18-7
10. Caleb King - 12 - PIP - 4A - 25-5
Posted By: back in the day

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 01/31/12 09:09 PM

WOW sta makes a big jump.

They have a solid team but 2nd all class?

at Bobcat they were 60 points behind Andale. Even if they (Lost a ranked wrestler to injury)

Thanks for the convesation starters Chief.
Posted By: Takealookatthat

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 01/31/12 09:14 PM

Just curious with the 120 weight class how Arnold is still all class ranked? ? Spader beat him at Hays and Miller, BUH, beat Spader at Hays..
Posted By: L.Geyer

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 01/31/12 10:22 PM

Not sure you can say Spader defeated Arnold in Hays, as Kevin injury defaulted out. And his other loses were to Prescott MCPH #3 all class, and Ball Hois. #9 all call, both above Arnold in the All class rankings. Spader lost to Dulgarian STA #1 all class, and Miller Buh. not ranked all class, and Arnold beat miller, this may be why Arnold is still above Spader due to the loss to Miller not being ranked,and Arnold defeating Miller. JMO
Posted By: Peterson

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 02/01/12 12:47 AM

Who did Andale lose?
Posted By: Quagmire

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 02/01/12 12:51 AM

Dylan Eck. Broke his arm in his last match at GC.
Posted By: XGHSWC

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 02/01/12 12:59 AM

Originally Posted By: Chief Renegade
Originally Posted By: EverythingGoes
Well 13 wins or 5 wins still impressive before this season is over i say butler from lv and bean from kmc wrestle.


Let's set up two matches at Cokeley's barn...

Luke Bean vs. Nathan Butler

Connor Middleton vs. Sam Son


Don't forget Lucas vs. Beeson.
Posted By: XGHSWC

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 02/01/12 01:00 AM

Originally Posted By: Quagmire
Dylan Eck. Broke his arm in his last match at GC.


I was so sorry to hear this. My heart goes out to Dylan and his family. Best wishes for a speedy recovery.
Posted By: Peterson

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 02/01/12 04:57 AM

Originally Posted By: Quagmire
Dylan Eck. Broke his arm in his last match at GC.

Sorry to hear about that happening to him. He was a tough wrestler. Prayers to him and his family.
Posted By: firehawk88

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 02/01/12 12:14 PM

Yes, that is a shame, and I empathize with the injuries. Totally takes the fun out of wrestling when kids get hurt. Hope he heals nicely.
Posted By: EverythingGoes

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 02/01/12 01:49 PM

I see it says wright-conklin lost 2 matches. I know he lost to Crutchmer at Newton who was his 2nd lose to?
Posted By: firehawk88

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 02/01/12 01:58 PM

He got called for an illegal slam this last weekend and had to FF the match at their dual tournament.
Posted By: Bobby Boucher

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 02/02/12 03:29 AM

From where I was sitting it did not look illegal.
Posted By: firehawk88

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 02/02/12 04:04 AM

That's why I stated it the way I did. "He got called for an illegal slam". I didn't see it.
Posted By: Bobby Boucher

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 02/02/12 01:03 PM

Aside from that I thought Olathe North did a great job hosting this dual tournament. I liked having the JV at the same location as the varsity, liked watching the future varsity wrestlers.
Posted By: Rhino

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 02/02/12 07:31 PM

Laine Herl 195lb from Goodland should be listed as having one loss. He lost in a dual with Burlington Colorado last week. I believe the score was 7-2.
Posted By: XGHSWC

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 02/03/12 04:04 PM

Oh no, say it aint so.
We already have Ricky Bobby and Billy Madison, now we have Bobby Boucher. Who is next, Chazz Michael Michaels and Mr. Deeds?
J. Dale suggested Joe Dirt and Austin Powers was thrown out. Anyone up for Goldmember, Fat B......, Jackie Moon, Mr. Furious or Derek Zoolander.
Posted By: Cokeley

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 02/06/12 03:29 AM

Originally Posted By: nastyway
If St James won this tournament it would have been the toughest tournament around and just because a team from out of state didn't win coakley will make some excuse why it wasn't that tuff


Just in....

The Silver Lake Invitational was the toughest tournament in Kansas this year. Nasty Way said so himself/herself???
Posted By: Bender

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 02/06/12 04:25 AM

Originally Posted By: Cokeley
Originally Posted By: nastyway
If St James won this tournament it would have been the toughest tournament around and just because a team from out of state didn't win coakley will make some excuse why it wasn't that tuff


Just in....

The Silver Lake Invitational was the toughest tournament in Kansas this year. Nasty Way said so himself/herself???


You have just won the greatest comment of the year award.
Posted By: Chief Renegade

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 02/07/12 02:33 PM

TEAM RANKINGS:

1. Arkansas City - 5A
2. St. Thomas Aquinas - 5A
3. Andover Central - 5A
4. Newton - 5A
5. Andale - 4A
6. Garden City - 6A
7. Lawrence - 6A
8. Manhattan - 6A
9. Gardner-Edgerton - 6A
10. McPherson - 4A


106:
1. Luke Henes - 10 - STA - 5A - 33-1
2. Dakota Leach - 11 - GD - 5A - 29-2
3. Trey Francka - 11 - CCO - 321A - 29-1
4. Logan Terrill - 9 - ARK - 5A - 31-6
5. Bryce Morgan - 11 - ELD - 4A - 20-2
6. Reese Cokeley - 10 - SJA - 4A - 37-6
7. Jase Stone - 11 - MH - 6A - 30-4
8. Jake Goldenstein - 9 - AUG - 4A - 28-1
9. Tristan Star - 9 - LAW - 6A - 28-6
10t. Sean DeShazer - 9 - WH - 6A - 14-4
10t. Parker Howell - 10 - KMC - 5A - 22-2


113:
1. Zac Gentzler - 11 - AC - 5A - 33-0
2. Tyler Mies - 10 - AN - 4A - 28-3
3. Zak Hensley - 9 - SJA - 4A - 33-6
4. Alex Garcia - 12 - DC - 6A - 25-7
5. Tevin Briscoe - 9 - GC - 6A - 25-4
6. Jason Perez - 12 - ULY - 4A - 21-4
7. Javier Vieyra - 12 - SS - 5A - 21-6
8. Hunter Price - 11 - HOL - 4A - 21-4
9. Michael Lindlar - 11 - WNW - 6A - 23-5
10. Joey Defore - 10 - CB - 321A - 24-0


120:
1. Isaac Dulgarian - 9 - STA - 5A - 32-1
2. Dustin Reed - 11 - CLB - 4A - 29-1
3. Tim Prescott - 12 - MCP - 4A - 26-2
4. Alex Kough - 11 - SC - 321A - 20-1
5. John Risewick - 11 - NOR - 321A - 25-4
6. Chris Burley - 11 - GB - 5A - 30-3
7. Anthony Calderon - 12 - GC - 6A - 24-5
8. Quinton Harrison - 11 - NEW - 5A - 23-7
9. Brandon Ball - 9 - HOI - 321A - 26-2
10. Clayton Himpel - 10 - TG - 4A


126:
1. Austin Hood - 12 - LOU - 4A - 29-0
2. Bryce Shoemaker - 11 - BAL - 4A - 27-5
3. Colby Watters - 12 - ARK - 5A - 29-1
4. TJ Stokes - 12 - GE - 6A - 19-4
5. Michael Olsen - 10 - LS - 5A - 23-5
6. Dylan Schumacher - 12 - TMP - 321A - 21-3
7. Dane Edwards - 11 - DC - 6A - 28-4
8. Taelor Mendenhall - 12 - CON - 4A
9. Alex Wolf - 12 - SV - 4A - 27-1
10. Sawyer Like - 10 - BVSW - 5A - 30-6


132:
1. Bo Pursel - 12 - LS - 5A - 35-0
2. Brogan Humphrey - 10 - FRE - 321A - 31-1
3. Cody Eastman - 11 - ARK - 5A - 30-6
4. Clay Mulligan - 12 - SC - 321A - 26-2
5. Kasey Biddle - 11 - CB - 321A - 22-2
6. Aaron Engles - 12 - AN - 4A - 23-3
7. Kyle Wilson - 11 - WAM - 4A - 27-1
8. Andrew Morgan - 12 - BAL - 4A - 29-9
9. AJ Hurtado - 11 - GC - 6A - 22-13
10. Ben Randolph - 12 - SME - 6A - 27-5


138:
1. Brandon Charbonneau - 12 - EMP - 5A - 32-0
2. Konnor Kriss - 12 - CLB - 4A - 29-2
3. Calvin Ochs - 11 - HOX - 321A - 23-2
4. Tommy Williams - 12 - STA - 5A - 35-3
5. Victor Hughes - 11 - FS - 4A - 35-3
6. Reis Humphrey - 11 - SMS - 6A - 27-2
7. Brady Heincker - 12 - DB - 6A - 30-4
8. Austin Hughey - 12 - ELD - 4A - 30-4
9. Jake Gehring - 11 - BUH - 4A - 26-4
10. Wyatt Villers - 12 - ARK - 5A - 27-11


145:
1. Aaron Seybold - 12 - PT - 4A - 31-2
2. Jonathan Blackwell - 11 - BS - 4A - 28-2
3. Tagen Lambotte - 10 - ROS - 321A - 26-1
4. Dustin Williams - 10 - GE - 6A - 28-3
5. Miles Johns - 12 - NEW - 5A - 28-2
6. Devin Webber - 12 - WS - 6A - 31-2
7. Lincoln Lemon - 12 - GD - 5A - 29-7
8. Ben Becker - 11 - DB - 6A - 27-8
9. Devon Dozier - 11 - OZ - 4A - 20-3
10. Chance Demel - 11 - HOI - 321A - 26-2


152:
1. Alex Bontz - 12 - AC - 5A - 31-1
2. Ky Biddle - 12 - CB - 321A - 29-0
3. Tyler McMichael - 12 - ARK - 5A - 15-3
4. Jared Johnson - 11 - PR - 321A - 24-1
5. Rusty Yarrow - 12 - CC - 4A - 24-3
6. Rory Haug - 12 - ON - 6A - 19-2
7. Seth Sharpe - 12 - MUL - 4A - 34-2
8. Kyle Armstrong - 11 - AN - 4A - 31-5
9. Mark Hobson - 12 - BS - 4A - 25-4
10. Razzy Morales - 12 - ULY - 4A - 24-4


160:
1t. Connor Middleton - 12 - ONW - 6A - 33-1
1t. Sam Son - 12 - CH - 4A - 34-0
3. Colton Duhr - 12 - AN - 4A - 27-2
4. Gavin Grater - 10 - CC - 4A - 27-3
5. Eric Albers - 12 - OAK - 321A - 27-0
6. Trey Dice - 12 - ARK - 5A - 27-4
7. Noel Torres - 11 - EMP - 5A - 26-4
8. Jon Heiman - 12 - GC - 6A - 6-2
9. Bryant Guillen - 11 - SEA - 5A - 19-5
10t. Aaron Puckett - 11 - BS - 4A - 22-3
10t. Kirby Fennewald - 11 - MUL - 4A - 32-4


170:
1. Matt Reed - 12 - WH - 6A - 21-0
2. Levi Eck - 11 - AN - 4A - 32-1
3. Blaine Hill - 12 - SME - 6A - 30-2
4. Preston Weigel - 10 - HAY - 5A - 30-1
5. Nick Pursel - 12 - LAW - 6A - 31-2
6. Brian Wood - 12 - MH - 6A - 27-5
7. Josh Hoch - 12 - BUR - 321A - 27-1
8. Jesse LeMay - 12 - WEL - 321A - 29-2
9. Harrison Gilliland - 11 - PLV - 321A - 16-0
10. Mike Shirk - 11 - SS - 5A - 16-7


182:
1. Reece Wright-Conklin - 12 - LAW - 6A - 25-2
2. Spencer Wilson - 11 - LFS - 6A - 25-1
3. Nick Meck - 11 - SH - 5A - 28-2
4. Kane Kelly - 12 - AB - 4A - 30-2
5. Darien Willis - 12 - SUM - 4A - 19-1
6. Tyler Lowe - 12 - EUR - 321A - 24-1
7. Brady Munsch - 12 - SS - 5A - 28-4
8. Brock Long - 12 - SES - 321A - 11-1
9. Dalton Rodd - 11 - AC - 5A- 20-6
10. Hunter Weddington - 12 - AND - 5A - 30-4


195:
1. Laine Herl - 12 - GDL - 321A - 25-1
2. Ulyesses DeShazer - 12 - WH - 6A - 22-2
3. Colt Castlebury - 12 - DOU - 321A - 30-1
4. Chad Blair - 11 - VC - 5A - 20-2
5. Shawn Marlatt - 12 - DB - 6A - 27-7
6. Litton VanDerWerff - 12 - LS - 5A - 21-5
7. Alex Stockton - 12 - GE - 6A - 30-3
8. Dillon Archer - 11 - NEW - 5A - 19-3
9. Josh McDowell - 12 - SC - 321A - 24-3
10. Taylor Krier - 12 - MCP - 4A - 21-6


220:
1. Luke Bean - 12 - KMC - 5A - 36-0
2. Nathan Butler - 11 - LV - 6A - 34-1
3. Cash Drylie - 12 - HAY - 5A - 30-1
4. Riley Oharah - 12 - GDL - 321A - 24-1
5. Tyler Keller - 12 - WNW - 6A - 26-3
6. Colton Bonner - 12 - BAL - 4A - 30-3
7. Tanner Taylor - 12 - BUR - 321A - 24-1
8. Justin Scott - 10 - JFW - 4A - 24-1
9. Colten Lissolo - 12 - HUG - 4A - 4-1
10. Brad Wilson - 12 - LAW - 6A


285:
1. Will Geary - 11 - TOP - 6A - 24-0
2. Eric Mason - 12 - STA - 5A - 29-1
3. Luke Hayes - 12 - SC - 321A - 21-0
4. Zach Lanning - 12 - MCP - 4A - 23-2
5. Zach Callahan - 12 - MV - 5A - 29-4
6. Broc Bennett - 12 - PT - 4A - 26-5
7. Tarez Griffen - 12 - WNW - 6A - 23-1
8. Clay Wilcox - 11 - CHP - 321A - 22-2
9. Jesse Colver - 11 - LV - 6A - 22-10
10. Caleb King - 12 - PIP - 4A - 28-5
Posted By: My2sonz wrestle

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 02/07/12 06:02 PM

At 120 Himpel beat Konitzer at Baldwin Invitational 2-1
Posted By: Chief Renegade

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 02/07/12 06:06 PM

Originally Posted By: My2sonz wrestle
At 120 Himpel beat Konitzer at Baldwin Invitational 2-1


Who are Himpel's losses to?
Posted By: badbo

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 02/07/12 06:32 PM

I believe Himpel's 4 losses are to Hake-Concordia, Dulgarian-STA, Jordan-Collinsville,OK, and Perez-JC.

So same amount of losses as Konitzer but a win a week ago head to head. Both very good wrestlers.

Posted By: ChunkDirty

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 02/07/12 11:42 PM

I Think Reece Conklin's Record is wrong, I am pretty Sure his only loss of the Season is to Crutchmer?
Posted By: S Biddle

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 02/08/12 12:12 AM

Originally Posted By: firehawk88
He got called for an illegal slam this last weekend and had to FF the match at their dual tournament.


This has already been talked about.
Posted By: Mr MooCow

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 02/08/12 12:12 AM

He lost another one because of an "illegal slam."
Posted By: Bobby Boucher

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 02/08/12 12:48 AM

And I will say it again, it did not look like an illegal slam from where I was sitting.
Posted By: eagle2012

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 02/08/12 02:31 AM

i believe Austin Hughey @ 138 beat Jake Gehring 3-1 in a tournament a few weeks back.
Posted By: Olympicwrestling

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 02/09/12 09:12 PM

Jonathan Peterson of Hutch certified at 120 and will be competing in the dual tonight.
Any input on what this does to the brackets chief?
Posted By: Chief Renegade

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 02/10/12 02:34 AM

Originally Posted By: Olympicwrestling
Jonathan Peterson of Hutch certified at 120 and will be competing in the dual tonight.
Any input on what this does to the brackets chief?


6A 120 is up for grabs. Calderon is the leader but Peterson should compete well there.
Posted By: eagle2012

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 02/10/12 02:42 AM

But i dont understand why Hughey got moved ahead of Brady Heincker when they wrestled last weekend and Heincker won 5-0...
Posted By: Chief Renegade

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 02/14/12 07:36 PM

TEAM RANKINGS:

1. Arkansas City - 5A
2. St. Thomas Aquinas - 5A
3. Andover Central - 5A
4. Newton - 5A
5. Andale - 4A
6. Garden City - 6A
7. Gardner-Edgerton - 6A
8. Lawrence - 6A
9. Manhattan - 6A
10. McPherson - 4A


106:
1. Luke Henes - 10 - STA - 5A - 36-1
2. Dakota Leach - 11 - GD - 5A - 29-2
3. Trey Francka - 11 - CCO - 321A - 32-1
4. Logan Terrill - 9 - ARK - 5A - 31-6
5. Bryce Morgan - 11 - ELD - 4A - 20-2
6. Reese Cokeley - 10 - SJA - 4A - 37-6
7. Jase Stone - 11 - MH - 6A - 32-4
8. Jake Goldenstein - 9 - AUG - 4A - 28-1
9. Tristan Star - 9 - LAW - 6A - 33-6
10. Parker Howell - 10 - KMC - 5A - 35-3


113:
1. Zac Gentzler - 11 - AC - 5A - 33-0
2. Tyler Mies - 10 - AN - 4A - 28-3
3. Zak Hensley - 9 - SJA - 4A - 33-6
4. Alex Garcia - 12 - DC - 6A - 25-7
5. Tevin Briscoe - 9 - GC - 6A - 25-4
6. Jason Perez - 12 - ULY - 4A - 25-4
7. Javier Vieyra - 12 - SS - 5A - 21-6
8. Hunter Price - 11 - HOL - 4A - 24-4
9. Michael Lindlar - 11 - WNW - 6A - 27-5
10. Joey Defore - 10 - CB - 321A - 24-0


120:
1. Isaac Dulgarian - 9 - STA - 5A - 35-1
2. Dustin Reed - 11 - CLB - 4A - 33-1
3. Tim Prescott - 12 - MCP - 4A - 26-2
4. Alex Kough - 11 - SC - 321A - 23-2
5. John Risewick - 11 - NOR - 321A - 25-4
6. Chris Burley - 11 - GB - 5A - 30-3
7. Anthony Calderon - 12 - GC - 6A - 24-5
8. Quinton Harrison - 11 - NEW - 5A - 23-7
9. Brandon Ball - 9 - HOI - 321A - 26-2
10. Clayton Himpel - 10 - TG - 4A - 37-4


126:
1. Austin Hood - 12 - LOU - 4A - 29-0
2. Bryce Shoemaker - 11 - BAL - 4A - 33-5
3. Colby Watters - 12 - ARK - 5A - 29-1
4. TJ Stokes - 12 - GE - 6A - 23-4
5. Michael Olsen - 10 - LS - 5A - 30-6
6. Dylan Schumacher - 12 - TMP - 321A - 21-3
7. Dane Edwards - 11 - DC - 6A - 28-4
8. Taelor Mendenhall - 12 - CON - 4A
9. Alex Wolf - 12 - SV - 4A - 31-1
10. Lukas Maki - 11 - KMC - 5A - 37-2


132:
1. Bo Pursel - 12 - LS - 5A - 37-0
2. Brogan Humphrey - 10 - FRE - 321A - 31-1
3. Cody Eastman - 11 - ARK - 5A - 30-6
4. Clay Mulligan - 12 - SC - 321A - 30-2
5. Kasey Biddle - 11 - CB - 321A - 22-2
6. Aaron Engles - 12 - AN - 4A - 23-3
7. Kyle Wilson - 11 - WAM - 4A - 32-1
8. Andrew Morgan - 12 - BAL - 4A - 35-9
9. Shane Goetz - 12 - HUT - 6A - 29-6
10. Riley Soward - 12 - HAL - 28-6


138:
1. Brandon Charbonneau - 12 - EMP - 5A - 35-0
2. Konnor Kriss - 12 - CLB - 4A - 33-2
3. Calvin Ochs - 11 - HOX - 321A - 23-2
4. Tommy Williams - 12 - STA - 5A - 38-3
5. Victor Hughes - 11 - FS - 4A - 35-3
6. Reis Humphrey - 11 - SMS - 6A - 31-3
7. Brady Heincker - 12 - DB - 6A - 30-4
8. Austin Hughey - 12 - ELD - 4A - 30-4
9. Jake Gehring - 11 - BUH - 4A - 26-4
10. Wyatt Villers - 12 - ARK - 5A - 27-11


145:
1. Aaron Seybold - 12 - PT - 4A - 31-2
2. Jonathan Blackwell - 11 - BS - 4A - 37-2
3. Tagen Lambotte - 10 - ROS - 321A - 26-1
4. Dustin Williams - 10 - GE - 6A - 34-3
5. Miles Johns - 12 - NEW - 5A - 28-2
6. Devin Webber - 12 - WS - 6A - 34-2
7. Lincoln Lemon - 12 - GD - 5A - 29-7
8. Ben Becker - 11 - DB - 6A - 27-8
9. Chance Demel - 11 - HOI - 321A - 26-2
10. Quade Woofter - 11 - CLB - 4A


152:
1. Alex Bontz - 12 - AC - 5A - 31-1
2. Ky Biddle - 12 - CB - 321A - 29-0
3. Tyler McMichael - 12 - ARK - 5A - 15-3
4. Jared Johnson - 11 - PR - 321A - 27-1
5. Rusty Yarrow - 12 - CC - 4A - 24-3
6. Seth Sharpe - 12 - MUL - 4A - 34-2
7. Rory Haug - 12 - ON - 6A - 21-3
8. Kyle Armstrong - 11 - AN - 4A - 31-5
9. Razzy Morales - 12 - ULY - 4A - 28-4
10. Matt Soetart - 12 - TG - 4A - 31-11


160:
1t. Connor Middleton - 12 - ONW - 6A - 36-1
1t. Sam Son - 12 - CH - 4A - 34-0
3. Colton Duhr - 12 - AN - 4A - 27-2
4. Gavin Grater - 10 - CC - 4A - 27-3
5. Eric Albers - 12 - OAK - 321A - 27-0
6. Trey Dice - 12 - ARK - 5A - 27-4
7. Noel Torres - 11 - EMP - 5A - 26-4
8. Jon Heiman - 12 - GC - 6A - 6-2
9. Bryant Guillen - 11 - SEA - 5A - 22-5
10t. Aaron Puckett - 11 - BS - 4A - 24-3
10t. Jacob Eggers - 12 - DC - 6A - 25-6


170:
1. Matt Reed - 12 - WH - 6A - 23-0
2. Levi Eck - 11 - AN - 4A - 32-1
3. Blaine Hill - 12 - SME - 6A - 33-2
4. Preston Weigel - 10 - HAY - 5A - 30-1
5. Nick Pursel - 12 - LAW - 6A - 31-2
6. Brian Wood - 12 - MH - 6A - 29-5
7. Josh Hoch - 12 - BUR - 321A - 27-1
8. Jesse LeMay - 12 - WEL - 321A - 33-2
9. Tanner Gardner - 12 - CLW - 4A
10. Mike Shirk - 11 - SS - 5A - 18-7


182:
1. Reece Wright-Conklin - 12 - LAW - 6A - 31-2
2. Spencer Wilson - 11 - LFS - 6A - 25-2
3. Nick Meck - 11 - SH - 5A - 31-2
4. Kane Kelly - 12 - AB - 4A - 30-2
5. Darien Willis - 12 - SUM - 4A - 19-1
6. Tyler Lowe - 12 - EUR - 321A - 24-1
7. Brady Munsch - 12 - SS - 5A - 28-4
8. Brock Long - 12 - SES - 321A - 11-1
9. Dalton Rodd - 11 - AC - 5A- 20-6
10. Hunter Weddington - 12 - AND - 5A - 30-4


195:
1. Colt Castlebury - 12 - DOU - 321A - 33-1
2. Laine Herl - 12 - GDL - 321A - 29-1
3. Ulyesses DeShazer - 12 - WH - 6A - 25-2
4. Chad Blair - 11 - VC - 5A - 20-2
5. Shawn Marlatt - 12 - DB - 6A - 27-7
6. Litton VanDerWerff - 12 - LS - 5A - 21-5
7. Alex Stockton - 12 - GE - 6A - 36-3
8. Dillon Archer - 11 - NEW - 5A - 19-3
9. Josh McDowell - 12 - SC - 321A - 24-3
10. Taylor Krier - 12 - MCP - 4A - 21-6


220:
1t Luke Bean - 12 - KMC - 5A - 36-0
1t. Nathan Butler - 11 - LV - 6A - 37-1
3. Cash Drylie - 12 - HAY - 5A - 30-1
4. Riley Oharah - 12 - GDL - 321A - 24-1
5. Tyler Keller - 12 - WNW - 6A - 30-3
6. Colton Bonner - 12 - BAL - 4A - 36-3
7. Colten Lissolo - 12 - HUG - 4A - 8-1
8. Ed Fitzgerald - 12 - SFT - 4A
9. Tanner Taylor - 12 - BUR - 321A - 24-1
10. Justin Scott - 10 - JFW - 4A - 24-2


285:
1. Will Geary - 11 - TOP - 6A - 27-0
2. Eric Mason - 12 - STA - 5A - 32-1
3. Luke Hayes - 12 - SC - 321A - 21-0
4. Zach Lanning - 12 - MCP - 4A - 23-2
5. Zach Callahan - 12 - MV - 5A - 29-4
6. Broc Bennett - 12 - PT - 4A - 26-5
7. Tarez Griffen - 12 - WNW - 6A - 23-1
8. Clay Wilcox - 11 - CHP - 321A - 25-2
9. Jesse Colver - 11 - LV - 6A - 26-10
10. Caleb King - 12 - PIP - 4A - 28-5

Posted By: fragged91

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 02/18/12 04:21 PM

Chief,

Didn't Gardner beat Aquinas at EKL by 20 points or something like that? If so, why would Aquinas be 2 and Gardner be 7 in the team rankings?
Posted By: Chief Renegade

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 02/19/12 12:08 AM

Originally Posted By: fragged91
Chief,

Didn't Gardner beat Aquinas at EKL by 20 points or something like that? If so, why would Aquinas be 2 and Gardner be 7 in the team rankings?


EKL is not 5A State. It was much closer to a dual.
Posted By: Tommyboy

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 02/20/12 03:48 PM

Chief, do we get a update all-class this week.
Posted By: Chief Renegade

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 02/20/12 03:51 PM

Originally Posted By: Tommyboy
Chief, do we get a update all-class this week.


Yes! I am also working on the final Class rankings for 4A/5A/6A.
Posted By: Tommyboy

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 02/20/12 04:04 PM

Thanks!
Posted By: XGHSWC

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 02/20/12 11:22 PM

Can't wait to see it and especially the team rankings, 5 of the top 10 will be 5A teams I would predict.

With 4 of the top 10 from 6A, I would think there would be no more discussion about combining 5A and 6A when 9 of the top 10 teams in the state come from this yearly proposed combination class. It should be air apparent why the classes exist and are the way they are with all due respect.

Yeah, I've got a great idea. Let's have three classes and put 9 of the top 10 teams in the state in one. We'll put one in the second and put zero in the third. Yeah, that's it, that sounds fair, let's do that, that sounds logical, that sounds like a great idea.
Talk about kids that "deserve" to be at state that won't be (5A/6A kids), you just found the instant recipe for that. And there would be a load of 4A and 3A kid's at state that didn't "deserve" to be there under a scenario that combines 5A and 6A.

Sorry to hijack your thread Chief. But invariably I am sure that I will cut and paste my post to some other threads with dumb a.. comments. And if anyone is compelled to respond to my claim please do so on another thread. Start one and title it Contradiction to X if it pleases you. Or some asinine comment like 5A and 6A Should Be Combined, Yeah!!!
Posted By: Rick Creek

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 02/20/12 11:50 PM

dont forget to look at the wrestlers at the russell regional Lowell from Republic County over Goepfert from Marysville
Schottler from Lyons over Rodgers from Smith Center and Creek from Marysville over Demel from Hoisington.
Posted By: Kakemono

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 02/21/12 12:11 AM

I don't think a close win over Rogers from Smith Center, will merit Schottler getting in the All Class list; nor Lowell's pin over Goepfert of Marysville. The one point win of Creek over Demel of Hoisington might, but the prior loss to Pickel of Smith Center will still hurt him. It will certainly help Schottler and Lowell in the 3A rankings though...Creek was already ranked over Demel in the 3A rankings.
Posted By: bigdaddy650r

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 02/21/12 12:12 AM

Toelkes 220lb.from Shawnee Heights 5A
Posted By: tanktastic

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 02/21/12 12:49 AM

Creek was actually ranked behind behymer and beat him again in the semis still an impressive tournament he is a very talented wrestler and could give lambotte a run for his money at state.
Posted By: Chief Renegade

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 02/21/12 07:07 PM

All-Class Rankings due out tomorrow!
Posted By: BrandonPigorsch

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 02/21/12 07:12 PM

Chief would you mind posting the end of the season all class ranking from the past two seasons? Just curious on who was ranked and from what class that they were ranked in the past 2 seasons. Thanks
Posted By: Chief Renegade

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 02/21/12 08:41 PM

Originally Posted By: BrandonPigorsch
Chief would you mind posting the end of the season all class ranking from the past two seasons? Just curious on who was ranked and from what class that they were ranked in the past 2 seasons. Thanks



FINAL 2010-11 ALL-CLASS RANKINGS!


TEAM RANKINGS:

1. Andover Central - 5A
2. Wichita Heights - 6A
3. Goddard - 6A
4. Andale - 4A
5. Clay Center - 4A
6. Derby - 6A
7. Norton - 321A
8. Shawnee Heights - 5A
9. Abilene - 4A
10. Garden City - 6A

INDIVIDUAL RANKINGS:

103:
1. Zac Gentzler - 10 - AC - 5A - 38-1
2. Javier Vieyra - 11 - SS - 5A - 31-3
3. Jason Perez - 11 - ULY - 4A - 35-2
4. Colt Skillman - 12 - BL - 321A - 37-1
5. Kevin Perez - 10 - JC - 6A - 37-2
6. Hunter Price - 10 - HOL - 4A - 33-4
7. Parker Howell - 9 - KMC - 5A - 40-6
8. Tyler Mies - 9 - AN - 4A - 32-9
9. Trey Francka - 10 - CCO - 321A - 33-4
10. Aaron Freislinger - 11 - WR - 6A - 35-8


112:
1. Clay Mulligan - 11 - SC - 321A - 42-3
2. Dustin Reed - 10 - CLB - 4A - 40-2
3. Chris Burley - 10 - GB - 5A - 34-4
4. Quinton Harrison - 10 - NEW - 5A - 31-5
5. Anthony Calderon - 11 - GC - 6A - 31-7
6. Kaleb Bonilla - 12 - GD - 6A - 34-3
7. Alex Garcia - 11 - DC - 6A - 27-11
8. John Risewick - 10 - NO - 321A - 30-7
9. Greg Jones - 9 - WH - 6A - 27-7
10. Corey Spader - 10 - SPH - 4A - 30-8


119:
1. Bo Pursel - 11 - LS - 5A - 36-1
2. Dylan Schumacher - 11 - TMP - 321A - 38-2
3. Austin Hood - 11 - LOU - 4A - 37-1
4. Tim Prescott - 11 - MCP - 5A - 22-2
5. Dane Norris - 12 - MH - 6A - 37-5
6. Alex Wolf - 11 - SV - 4A - 38-1
7. Tyler Dryden - 12 - KMC - 5A - 40-1
8. Chris Sullivan - 11 - HUT - 6A - 36-7
9. Hunter Haralson - 10 - LAW - 6A - 38-5
10. Cody Eastman - 10 - ARK - 5A - 29-9


125:
1. Jake Gentzler - 12 - AC - 5A - 36-1
2. Tre Humphrey - 12 - SMS - 6A - 41-2
3. Cody Beasley - 12 - WC - 6A - 30-3
4. Caleb Seaton - 12 - BS - 4A - 34-5
5. Bo Newport - 12 - PV - 4A - 44-4
6. Brogan Humphrey - 9 - FRE - 321A - 42-1
7. Tim Wrestler - 12 - CH - 4A - 30-5
8. Colby Watters - 11 - ARK - 5A - 30-8
9. Robbie Hines - 12 - ULY - 4A - 36-4
10. Tommy Williams - 11 - STA - 5A - 35-5


130:
1. Daniel DeShazer - 12 - WH - 6A - 32-1
2. Troy Bainter - 12 - NO - 321A - 35-2
3. Konnor Kriss - 11 - CLB - 4A - 38-6
4. Kyle Johnson - 12 - COL - 4A - 33-3
5. TJ Stokes - 11 - GE - 5A - 43-2
6. Mario Corado - 12 - PT - 5A - 37-7
7. Lincoln Lemon - 11 - GD - 6A - 37-11
8. Zac Dremel - 11 - OS - 6A - 22-2
9. Colt McElroy - 12 - GC - 6A - 35-8
10. Skyler McComb - 12 - DB - 6A - 31-10


135:
1. Zack Tanenbaum - 12 - BVN - 6A - 40-0
2. Tagen Lambotte - 9 - RS - 321A - 48-2
3. Jonathan Blackwell - 10 - BS - 4A - 42-5
4. Aaron Seybold - 11 - PT - 5A - 40-5
5. Courtney Strauss - 12 - AB - 4A - 38-2
6. Symon Seaton - 12 - BL - 4A - 17-3
7. Miles Johns - 11 - NEW - 5A - 36-5
8. Brandon Charbonneau - 11 - EMP - 5A - 32-6
9. Chase Locke - 11 - MZ - 6A - 11-3
10. Brett Terrell - 12 - NO - 321A - 24-3


140:
1. Taylor Moeder - 12 - SJA - 4A - 49-0
2. Colton Eck - 12 - AN - 4A - 33-2
3. Bradley Little - 12 - DB - 6A - 38-1
4. Kale Newell - 12 - SC - 321A - 35-1
5. Alex Thibault - 10 - HAL - 321A - 35-2
6. Trey Dice - 11 - ARK - 5A - 28-9
7. Cole Schreiner - 12 - SEA - 5A - 30-7
8. Aaron Puckett - 10 - BS - 4A - 43-6
9. Trevor Cox - 11 - MZ - 6A - 24-6
10. Dustin Williams - 9 - GE - 5A - 35-8


145:
1. Alex Bontz - 11 - AC - 5A - 40-0
2. Nick Collins - 12 - AUG - 4A - 28-5
3. Levi Eck - 10 - AN - 4A - 38-6
4. Preston Weigel - 9 - HAY - 5A - 41-3
5. Sheldon Graves - 12 - RS - 321A - 44-3
6. Ky Biddle - 11 - CB - 321A - 35-1
7. Spencer Blew - 12 - LS - 5A - 35-7
8. Bryant Guillen - 10 - SEA - 5A - 36-9
9. Dalton Snyder - 11 - HOX - 321A - 34-5
10. Cody Hill - 12 - HUG - 4A - 32-11


152:
1. Ryne Cokeley - 12 - SJA - 4A - 46-2
2. Chase Sanchez - 12 - EMP - 5A - 34-2
3. Connor Middleton - 11 - ONW - 6A
4. Sam Son - 11 - CH - 4A - 44-1
5. Dillon Scanlon - 12 - LS - 5A - 38-4
6. Trey Houlden - 12 - GD - 6A - 24-4
7. Colton Duhr - 11 - AN - 4A - 33-7
8. Ulyesses DeShazer - 11 - 6A - 27-6
9. Kane Kelly - 11 - AB - 4A - 40-5
10. Thomas Rachow - 12 - PH - 321A - 38-2


160:
1. Matt Reed - 11 - WH - 6A - 35-0
2. Jake Hattabaugh - 12 - AN - 4A - 36-2
3. Landon Keiswetter - 12 - NO - 321A - 36-2
4. Colton Easterberg - 12 - CC - 4A - 29-7
5. Colton Picking - 12 - AB - 4A - 33-3
6. Drake Lovvorn - 12 - HOL - 4A - 38-3
7. Rory Haug - 11 - SJA - 4A - 40-9
8. Hunter Like - 12 - BVSW - 5A - 36-5
9. Sterling Terry - 12 - ARK - 5A - 37-7
10. Braden Mayes - 12 - BEL - 321A - 34-7


171:
1. Reece Wright-Conklin - 11 - LAW - 6A - 37-0
2. Taylor Baird - 12 - PRT - 4A - 29-3
3. Dylan Penka - 12 - KMC - 5A - 38-1
4. Spencer Shirk - 12 - NO - 321A - 33-3
5. Brock Long - 11 - SES - 321A - 34-1
6. Zach Eaton - 12 - SC - 321A - 31-3
7. Blaine Hill - 11 - SME - 6A - 39-6
8. Tyler Baughman - 12 - LS - 5A - 39-4
9. Andrew Flanagin - 12 - CLB - 4A - 40-7
10. Dominique Henderson - 12 - WH - 6A - 26-9


189:
1. Zach Anderson - 12 - CC - 4A - 43-1
2. Donnie Lockhart - 12 - SH - 5A - 38-0
3. Zach Grimes - 12 - OS - 4A - 44-2
4. Tate Omli - 12 - ELL - 321A - 38-1
5. Donnie Parr - 12 - DS - 4A - 41-4
6. Hunter Jameson - 12 - WH - 6A - 28-6
7. Dalton Beard - 12 - GD - 6A - 40-3
8. Darien Willis - 11 - SUM - 4A - 23-8
9. Tyler Lowe - 11 - EUR - 321A - 31-3
10. Jon Bernard - 12 - HUT - 6A - 22-3


215:
1. Justin McPhail - 12 - LIB - 5A - 35-1
2. Luke Bean - 11 - KMC - 5A - 29-2
3. Nathan Butler - 10 - LV - 6A - 44-3
4. Shawn Marlatt - 11 - DB - 6A - 35-6
5. Boomer Mays - 12 - EUD - 4A - 38-4
6. Tylor Woodruff - 11 - GD - 6A - 32-5
7. Luke Hayes - 11 - SC - 321A - 39-4
8. Colten Lissolo - 11 - HUG - 4A - 36-7
9. Adam Guthmiller - 12 - SF - 321A - 36-3
10. Sione Siale - 12 - CHP - 321A - 42-2


285:
1. Jesse Trent - 12 - DC - 6A - 35-0
2. Dillon Salmans - 12 - HOX - 321A - 32-1
3. Eric Mason - 11 - STA - 5A - 41-4
4. Tyler White - 12 - CIM - 321A - 31-2
5. Arbanas Elliott - 12 - BVNW - 6A - 34-3
6. Will Geary - 10 - TOP - 6A - 38-2
7. Clay Wilcox - 10 - CHP - 321A - 39-2
8. Derek Holly - 12 - SH - 5A - 34-5
9. Zach Callahan - 10 - MV - 5A - 37-7
10. Taylor Krier - 11 - MCP - 5A - 30-8



FINAL 2009-10 ALL-CLASS RANKINGS!


TEAM RANKINGS:

1. Clay Center - 4A
2. Goddard - 6A
3. Derby - 6A
4. Emporia - 5A
5. Valley Center - 4A
6. Andale - 4A
7. Wichita Heights - 6A
8. Lansing - 5A
9. Norton - 321A
10. Garden City - 6A


103
1. Zac Gentzler - 9 - AC - 5A
2. Bryce Shoemaker - 9 - BAL - 4A
3. Kaleb Bonilla - 11 - GD - 6A
4. Dustin Reed - 9 - CB - 4A
5. Clay Mulligan - 10 - SC - 4A
6. Javier Vieyra - 10 - SS - 5A
7. Chris Sullivan - 10 - HUT - 5A
8. Jace Roy - 9 - PV - 4A
9. Anthony Calderon - 10 - GC - 6A
10. Chandler Gordon - 10 - SMNW - 6A


112
1. Dalton Miller - 12 - WC - 6A
2. Bo Pursel - 10 - LS - 5A
3. Trevor Boyer - 12 - MV - 5A
4. Austin Hood - 10 - LOU - 4A
5. Dylan Schumacher - 10 - TMP - 321A
6. Bo Newport - 11 - PV - 4A
7. Nathan Reed - 12 - CB - 4A
8. Tim Prescott - 10 - MCP - 5A
9. Hunter Haralson - 9 - LAW - 6A
10. Zac Dremel - 10 - OS - 6A


119
1. Zac Sparr - 12 - RH - 4A
2. Cody Beasley - 11 - WC - 6A
3. Blaine Smith - 12 - SS - 5A
4. Colby Watters - 10 - ARK - 5A
5. Tyler Dryden - 11 - KMC - 5A
6. Caleb Seaton - 11 - BS - 5A
7. Aaron Seybold - 10 - PT - 5A
8. Denzell Davis - 12 - FS - 4A
9. Colby Witten - 11 - MZ - 6A
10. Konnor Kriss - 10 - CB - 4A


125
1. Daniel DeShazer - 11 - WH - 6A
2. Symon Seaton - 11 - BL - 4A
3. Brett LaMar - 12 - SL - 4A
4. Jake Gentzler - 11 - AC - 5A
5. Garrett Jones - 12 - ARK - 5A
6. Zach Hoehn - 11 - WEL - 321A
7. Levi Eck - 9 - AN - 4A
8. Logan Singular - 12 - CC - 4A
9. Steven Plott - 12 - SS - 5A
10. Ross Whitmore - 11 - SMNW - 6A


130
1. Taylor Moeder - 11 - SJA - 4A
2. Colt Rogers - 12 - SC - 321A
3. Kyle Johnson - 11 - COL - 4A
4. Tyson Schmidtberger - 12 - RUS - 4A
5. Brandon Charbonneau - 10 - EMP - 5A
6. Lane Greenlee - 11 - GC - 6A
7. Mario Corado - 11 - PT - 5A
8. Dalton Davis - 11 - LA - 321A
9. Ky Biddle - 10 - CB - 321A
10. Billy Broeckelman - 11 - NO - 321A


135
1. Chase Nitcher - 12 - VC - 4A
2. Zack Tanenbaum - 11 - BVN - 6A
3. Kash Biddle - 12 - ARK - 5A
4. Jace Campbell - 12 - OA - 321A
5. Colton Eck - 11 - AN - 4A
6. Alex Bontz - 10 - AC - 5A
7. Uylesses DeShazer - 10 - WH - 6A
8. Kale Newell - 11 - SC - 321A
9. Travis Reinhart - 11 - DB - 6A


140
1. Tyler Anderson - 12 - CC - 4A
2. Danny Floyd - 12 - OS - 321A
3. Bryce Hood - 12 - LOU - 4A
4. Spencer Blew - 11 - LS - 5A
5. Vance Oliver - 12 - WIN - 5A
6. Tre Houlden - 11 - GD - 6A
7. Bradley Little - 11 - DB - 6A
8. Levi Schneider – 12 – ELL – 321A
9. Tyler McMichael - 10 - CB - 321A
10. BT O’Hara – 11 – COL – 4A


145
1. Ryne Cokeley - 11 - SJA - 4A
2. Joey Dozier - 12 - GC - 6A
3. Tyler Davis - 12 - MCP - 5A
4. Connor Middleton - 10 - ONW - 6A
5. Aaron Morgan - 12 - AB - 4A
6. Derrick Weller - 12 - PIP - 4A
7. Nick Collins - 11 - AUG - 4A
8. Cody Shavlik - 12 - DB - 6A
9. Dillon Scanlon – 11 – LS – 5A
10t. Chase Sanchez – 11 – EMP – 5A
10t. Kaenon Keiswetter - 12 - NO - 321A


152
1. Cade Blair - 12 - VC - 4A
2. Colton Picking - 11 - AB - 4A
3. Jason Seibel - 12 - SS - 5A
4. Jake Walker - 12 - STA - 5A
5. Sam Son - 10 - CH - 4A
6. Andrew Laib - 12 - EMP - 5A
7. Dylan Penka - 11 - BC - 5A
8. Landon Keiswetter - 11 - NO - 321A
9. Trip Hiller – 12 – OS – 6A
10t. Drake Lovvorn - 11 - HOL - 4A
10t. Sage Thimmesch – 12 – GP – 321A


160
1. John Hambleton - 12 - LC - 4A
2. Logan Gaskill - 12 - EMP - 5A
3. Nick Thibault - 12 - HAL - 321A
4. Reece Wright-Conklin - 10 - LAW - 6A
5. Jake Hattabaugh - 11 - AN - 4A
6. Spencer Shirk - 11 - NO - 321A
7. Lucas Cortez - 12 - EL - 4A
8. Todd Curtis - 12 - GE - 5A
9. Tyler Baughman - 11 - LS - 5A
10. Hunter Jameson - 11 - WH - 6A


171
1. Parker Madl - 12 - BV - 6A
2. Ethan Mumaw - 11 - JW - 4A
3. Benny Armstrong - 12 - AN - 4A
4. Taylor Baird – 11 – PRT – 4A
5. Evon Royal – 12 – JC – 6A
6. Matt Reed – 10 – WH – 6A
7. Matt Atwood – 12 – SC – 321A
8. Corey Engstrom – 12 – HOI – 321A
9. Chance Davis – 12 – CC – 4A
10. Jeremie Maus – 12 – TG – 4A


189
1. Dylan Walker - 12 - EL - 4A
2. Jonathan Truman - 12 - KMC - 5A
3. Tate Omli - 11 - MIN - 321A
4. Zach Anderson - 11 - CC - 4A
5. Zackery Grimes - 11 - OZ - 4A
6. Dalton Beard - 11 - GD - 6A
7. Alex Chaparro - 12 - WSE - 6A
8. Jace Banner - 12 - DC - 6A
9. Preston Werth - 12 - TMP - 321
10. Steven Cooksley - 12 - TS - 5A


215
1. Mark Kolmer - 12 - EMP - 5A
2. Kyle Caylor - 12 - WNW - 6A
3. Taylor Wuthnow - 12 - AB - 4A
4. Ethan Jirak - 12 - OAK - 321A
5. Dylan Matheny - 12 - KMC - 5A
6. Josh Hicks - 12 - GD - 6A
7. Nick Pearch - 12 - BV - 6A
8. Gage Knudson – 11 – JC – 6A
9. Jake Carroll – 12 – ON – 6A
10. Sione John Siale - 11 - AH - 321A


285
1. BJ Finney - 12 - AN - 4A
2. Tank Burns - 12 - COL - 4A
3. Trey Page - 12 - WNW - 6A
4. Beau Bennett - 12 - PT - 5A
5. Lorenzo Serna - 12 - EMP - 5A
6. Dillon Salmans - 11 - HOX - 321A
7. Cody Huffman - 12 - DOU - 321A
8. Jared Rice - 12 - PHI - 321A
9. Jesse Trent – 12 – DC – 6A
10. Josh Wilson - 12 - LV – 6A
_________________________
Posted By: Chief Renegade

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 02/22/12 12:39 AM

Invites for the All-Class dual teams will go out starting next week. I plan to have the rankings done by Monday and will start at the top of each weight to fill two full dual teams.

We will leave from Topeka this time on Thursday, March 15th at around 8AM if possible. I will have more details about cost as soon as possible.
Posted By: Chief Renegade

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 02/22/12 01:05 PM

TEAM RANKINGS:

1. Arkansas City - 5A
2. St. Thomas Aquinas - 5A
3. Newton - 5A
4. Andover Central - 5A
5. Andale - 4A
6. Manhattan - 6A
7. Lawrence - 6A
8. Gardner-Edgerton - 6A
9. Garden City - 6A
10. Pittsburg - 4A

Invites for the two All-Class dual teams traveling to Denver, CO on March 15th will go out on Monday! We will take 28-30 wrestlers to the Rocky Mountain Nationals! Good luck this weekend!


106:
1. Luke Henes - 10 - STA - 5A - 37-1
2. Dakota Leach - 11 - GD - 5A - 35-2
3. Trey Francka - 11 - CCO - 321A - 34-2
4. Logan Terrill - 9 - ARK - 5A - 34-7
5. Reese Cokeley - 10 - SJA - 4A - 40-7
6. Jase Stone - 11 - MH - 6A - 35-4
7. Jake Goldenstein - 9 - AUG - 4A - 32-1
8. Tristan Star - 9 - LAW - 6A - 36-6
9. Parker Howell - 10 - KMC - 5A - 37-3
10. Sean DeShazer - 9 - WH - 6A - 21-6


113:
1. Zac Gentzler - 11 - AC - 5A - 36-0
2. Tyler Mies - 10 - AN - 4A - 31-3
3. Zak Hensley - 9 - SJA - 4A - 36-6
4. Alex Garcia - 12 - DC - 6A - 29-7
5. Jason Perez - 12 - ULY - 4A - 28-5
6. Javier Vieyra - 12 - SS - 5A - 25-7
7. Hunter Price - 11 - HOL - 4A - 26-3
8. Michael Lindlar - 11 - WNW - 6A - 25-6
9. Joey Defore - 10 - CB - 321A - 32-0
10. Nick Haug - 9 - ON - 6A - 34-7


120:
1. Isaac Dulgarian - 9 - STA - 5A - 38-1
2. Dustin Reed - 11 - CLB - 4A - 40-1
3. Tim Prescott - 12 - MCP - 4A - 28-3
4. Alex Kough - 11 - SC - 321A - 26-3
5. John Risewick - 11 - NOR - 321A - 31-4
6. Anthony Calderon - 12 - GC - 6A - 26-6
7. Quinton Harrison - 11 - NEW - 5A - 29-7
8. Chris Burley - 11 - GB - 5A - 31-4
9. Brandon Ball - 9 - HOI - 321A - 33-2
10. Clayton Himpel - 10 - TG - 4A - 39-5


126:
1. Austin Hood - 12 - LOU - 4A - 36-0
2. Bryce Shoemaker - 11 - BAL - 4A - 37-5
3. Colby Watters - 12 - ARK - 5A - 33-1
4. TJ Stokes - 12 - GE - 6A - 25-4
5. Michael Olsen - 10 - LS - 5A - 33-6
6. Dylan Schumacher - 12 - TMP - 321A - 25-3
7. Dane Edwards - 11 - DC - 6A - 33-4
8. Taelor Mendenhall - 12 - CON - 4A - 28-1
9. Alex Wolf - 12 - SV - 4A - 34-2
10. Hunter Haralson - 11 - LAW - 6A - 35-6


132:
1. Bo Pursel - 12 - LS - 5A - 40-0
2. Brogan Humphrey - 10 - FRE - 321A - 40-1
3. Cody Eastman - 11 - ARK - 5A - 36-6
4. Clay Mulligan - 12 - SC - 321A - 36-2
5. Kasey Biddle - 11 - CB - 321A - 28-3
6. Kyle Wilson - 11 - WAM - 4A - 35-1
7. Aaron Engles - 12 - AN - 4A - 25-6
8. Andrew Morgan - 12 - BAL - 4A - 39-9
9. Greg Burley - 10 - GB - 5A - 19-2
10. Riley Soward - 12 - HAL - 32-7


138:
1. Brandon Charbonneau - 12 - EMP - 5A - 40-0
2. Konnor Kriss - 12 - CLB - 4A - 39-2
3. Calvin Ochs - 11 - HOX - 321A - 26-2
4. Tommy Williams - 12 - STA - 5A - 38-3
5. Victor Hughes - 11 - FS - 4A - 39-3
6. Reis Humphrey - 11 - SMS - 6A - 34-3
7. Brady Heincker - 12 - DB - 6A - 32-4
8. Austin Hughey - 12 - ELD - 4A - 35-4
9. Brody Carroll - 11 - MAR - 321A - 39-2
10. Nick Bauerly - 12 - OS - 6A - 21-6


145:
1. Aaron Seybold - 12 - PT - 4A - 34-2
2. Jonathan Blackwell - 11 - BS - 4A - 41-2
3. Tagen Lambotte - 10 - ROS - 321A - 30-1
4. Dustin Williams - 10 - GE - 6A - 37-3
5. Miles Johns - 12 - NEW - 5A - 34-2
6. Devin Webber - 12 - WS - 6A - 38-2
7. Lincoln Lemon - 12 - GD - 5A - 33-7
8. Ben Becker - 11 - DB - 6A - 29-8
9. Tanner Ogden - 11 - RV - 4A - 33-1
10. Eddie Creek - 12 - MRV - 321A - 32-4


152:
1. Alex Bontz - 12 - AC - 5A - 35-1
2. Ky Biddle - 12 - CB - 321A - 36-0
3. Tyler McMichael - 12 - ARK - 5A - 18-3
4. Rusty Yarrow - 12 - CC - 4A - 28-3
5. Razzy Morales - 12 - ULY - 4A - 33-4
6. Seth Sharpe - 12 - MUL - 4A - 38-3
7. Rory Haug - 12 - ON - 6A - 23-3
8. Kyle Armstrong - 11 - AN - 4A - 34-6
9. Mark Hobson - 12 - BS - 4A - 31-5
10. Mark Smith - 12 - ROS - 321A - 40-5


160:
1t. Connor Middleton - 12 - ONW - 6A - 37-1
1t. Sam Son - 12 - CH - 4A - 40-0
3. Colton Duhr - 12 - AN - 4A - 31-2
4. Gavin Grater - 10 - CC - 4A - 33-3
5. Eric Albers - 12 - OAK - 321A - 31-0
6. Trey Dice - 12 - ARK - 5A - 31-4
7. Noel Torres - 11 - EMP - 5A - 28-4
8. Bryant Guillen - 11 - SEA - 5A - 23-6
9. Jacob Eggers - 12 - DC - 6A - 30-6
10. Aaron Puckett - 11 - BS - 4A - 27-3


170:
1. Matt Reed - 12 - WH - 6A - 26-0
2. Levi Eck - 11 - AN - 4A - 36-1
3. Blaine Hill - 12 - SME - 6A - 34-2
4. Preston Weigel - 10 - HAY - 5A - 35-1
5. Nick Pursel - 12 - LAW - 6A - 34-3
6. Brian Wood - 12 - MH - 6A - 33-6
7. Riley Hunsicker - 12 - ELL - 321A - 24-4
8. Jesse LeMay - 12 - WEL - 321A - 37-2
9. Tanner Gardner - 12 - CLW - 4A - 33-3
10. Jared Langley - 9 - NEW - 5A - 31-11


182:
1. Reece Wright-Conklin - 12 - LAW - 6A - 34-2
2. Spencer Wilson - 11 - LFS - 6A - 30-3
3. Nick Meck - 11 - SH - 5A - 34-2
4. Kane Kelly - 12 - AB - 4A - 36-2
5. Cole Cannon - 12 - DS - 4A - 26-2
6. Darien Willis - 12 - SUM - 4A - 31-2
7. Hunter Weddington - 12 - AND - 5A - 34-4
8. Tyler Lowe - 12 - EUR - 321A - 34-1
9. Brock Long - 12 - SES - 321A - 28-1
10. Dalton Rodd - 11 - AC - 5A- 25-7


195:
1. Colt Castlebury - 12 - DOU - 321A - 39-1
2. Laine Herl - 12 - GDL - 321A - 38-1
3. Ulyesses DeShazer - 12 - WH - 6A - 31-2
4. Chad Blair - 11 - VC - 5A - 34-2
5. Alex Stockton - 12 - GE - 6A - 39-3
6. Ty Suggs - 12 - MH - 6A - 30-7
7. Shawn Marlatt - 12 - DB - 6A - 30-8
8. Litton VanDerWerff - 12 - LS - 5A - 26-7
9. Dillon Archer - 11 - NEW - 5A - 28-3
10t. Josh McDowell - 12 - SC - 321A - 32-3
10t. Taylor Krier - 12 - MCP - 4A - 25-7


220:
1t Luke Bean - 12 - KMC - 5A - 43-0
1t. Nathan Butler - 11 - LV - 6A - 38-1
3. Cash Drylie - 12 - HAY - 5A - 35-2
4. Riley Oharah - 12 - GDL - 321A - 34-1
5. Colton Lissolo - 12 - HUG - 4A - 13-1
6. Tyler Keller - 12 - WNW - 6A - 30-3
7. Justin Scott - 10 - JFW - 4A - 36-2
8. Colton Bonner - 12 - BAL - 4A - 40-4
9. Jordan Brown - 12 - CON - 4A - 35-3
10. Tanner Taylor - 12 - BUR - 321A - 39-2


285:
1. Will Geary - 11 - TOP - 6A - 27-0
2. Eric Mason - 12 - STA - 5A - 34-1
3. Luke Hayes - 12 - SC - 321A - 32-0
4. Zach Lanning - 12 - MCP - 4A - 27-2
5. Zach Callahan - 12 - MV - 5A - 34-5
6. Broc Bennett - 12 - PT - 4A - 30-6
7. Tarez Griffen - 12 - WNW - 6A - 30-1
8. Tylor Woodruff - 12 - GD - 5A - 3-0
9. Clay Wilcox - 11 - CHP - 321A - 39-3
10. Jacob English - 12 - BEL - 321A - 28-1




Posted By: Husker Fan

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 02/22/12 01:55 PM

I made a suggestion on another topic that viewers donate to the Kansas College Wrestling Fund $1 for everyone of their views and $10 for every post. That would have generated about $12,000 for the KCWF on that topic. Someone suggested to me that I should suggest that on this topic because of its popularity that it would now generate about $156,000 for the KCWF.

I know I risk trying your patience but I think this KCWF cause is worth it. Eric, I hope this does not upset you.

Please consider joining the fight to help college wrestling grow in Kansas. The college programs this KCWF benefits ultimately benefits so many of the young wrestlers who have been part of Eric's lists over the years and will benefit in the future so many on this year's All Class Rankings of Chief Renegade and Chief's future lists.

I have put out a $120 or $10 a month individual donor goal. But whatever amount ($5, $10, $50, $100, $120, $250, $500, $1,000 or more) will be important. Give whatever you can afford. It will be appreciated and it will help make college wrestling grow in Kansas.

Make checks payable: USA Wrestling – Kansas, Inc./KCWF, a not-for-profit 501(c)(3) entity.
Mail to: Mike Juby, Kansas College Wrestling Fund, 7208 Magnolia Way, Hutchinson, KS 67502


Will You Become A Donor in 2012 to the KCWF???
Posted By: Chief Renegade

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 02/22/12 01:58 PM

TEAM RANKINGS:

1. Arkansas City - 5A
2. St. Thomas Aquinas - 5A
3. Newton - 5A
4. Andover Central - 5A
5. Andale - 4A
6. Manhattan - 6A
7. Lawrence - 6A
8. Gardner-Edgerton - 6A
9. Garden City - 6A
10. Pittsburg - 4A

Invites for the two All-Class dual teams traveling to Denver, CO on March 15th will go out on Monday! We will take 28-30 wrestlers to the Rocky Mountain Nationals! Good luck this weekend!


106:
1. Luke Henes - 10 - STA - 5A - 37-1
2. Dakota Leach - 11 - GD - 5A - 35-2
3. Trey Francka - 11 - CCO - 321A - 34-2
4. Logan Terrill - 9 - ARK - 5A - 34-7
5. Reese Cokeley - 10 - SJA - 4A - 40-7
6. Jase Stone - 11 - MH - 6A - 35-4
7. Jake Goldenstein - 9 - AUG - 4A - 32-1
8. Tristan Star - 9 - LAW - 6A - 36-6
9. Parker Howell - 10 - KMC - 5A - 37-3
10. Sean DeShazer - 9 - WH - 6A - 21-6


113:
1. Zac Gentzler - 11 - AC - 5A - 36-0
2. Tyler Mies - 10 - AN - 4A - 31-3
3. Zak Hensley - 9 - SJA - 4A - 36-6
4. Alex Garcia - 12 - DC - 6A - 29-7
5. Jason Perez - 12 - ULY - 4A - 28-5
6. Javier Vieyra - 12 - SS - 5A - 25-7
7. Hunter Price - 11 - HOL - 4A - 26-3
8. Michael Lindlar - 11 - WNW - 6A - 25-6
9. Joey Defore - 10 - CB - 321A - 32-0
10. Nick Haug - 9 - ON - 6A - 34-7


120:
1. Isaac Dulgarian - 9 - STA - 5A - 38-1
2. Dustin Reed - 11 - CLB - 4A - 40-1
3. Tim Prescott - 12 - MCP - 4A - 28-3
4. Alex Kough - 11 - SC - 321A - 26-3
5. John Risewick - 11 - NOR - 321A - 31-4
6. Anthony Calderon - 12 - GC - 6A - 26-6
7. Quinton Harrison - 11 - NEW - 5A - 29-7
8. Chris Burley - 11 - GB - 5A - 31-4
9. Brandon Ball - 9 - HOI - 321A - 33-2
10. Corey Spader - 11 - SPH - 4A - 29-4


126:
1. Austin Hood - 12 - LOU - 4A - 36-0
2. Bryce Shoemaker - 11 - BAL - 4A - 37-5
3. Colby Watters - 12 - ARK - 5A - 33-1
4. TJ Stokes - 12 - GE - 6A - 25-4
5. Michael Olsen - 10 - LS - 5A - 33-6
6. Dylan Schumacher - 12 - TMP - 321A - 25-3
7. Dane Edwards - 11 - DC - 6A - 33-4
8. Taelor Mendenhall - 12 - CON - 4A - 28-1
9. Alex Wolf - 12 - SV - 4A - 34-2
10. Hunter Haralson - 11 - LAW - 6A - 35-6


132:
1. Bo Pursel - 12 - LS - 5A - 40-0
2. Brogan Humphrey - 10 - FRE - 321A - 40-1
3. Cody Eastman - 11 - ARK - 5A - 36-6
4. Clay Mulligan - 12 - SC - 321A - 36-2
5. Kasey Biddle - 11 - CB - 321A - 28-3
6. Kyle Wilson - 11 - WAM - 4A - 35-1
7. Aaron Engles - 12 - AN - 4A - 25-6
8. Andrew Morgan - 12 - BAL - 4A - 39-9
9. Greg Burley - 10 - GB - 5A - 19-2
10. Riley Soward - 12 - HAL - 32-7


138:
1. Brandon Charbonneau - 12 - EMP - 5A - 40-0
2. Konnor Kriss - 12 - CLB - 4A - 39-2
3. Calvin Ochs - 11 - HOX - 321A - 26-2
4. Tommy Williams - 12 - STA - 5A - 38-3
5. Victor Hughes - 11 - FS - 4A - 39-3
6. Reis Humphrey - 11 - SMS - 6A - 34-3
7. Brady Heincker - 12 - DB - 6A - 32-4
8. Austin Hughey - 12 - ELD - 4A - 35-4
9. Brody Carroll - 11 - MAR - 321A - 39-2
10. Nick Bauerly - 12 - OS - 6A - 21-6


145:
1. Aaron Seybold - 12 - PT - 4A - 34-2
2. Jonathan Blackwell - 11 - BS - 4A - 41-2
3. Tagen Lambotte - 10 - ROS - 321A - 30-1
4. Dustin Williams - 10 - GE - 6A - 37-3
5. Miles Johns - 12 - NEW - 5A - 34-2
6. Devin Webber - 12 - WS - 6A - 38-2
7. Lincoln Lemon - 12 - GD - 5A - 33-7
8. Ben Becker - 11 - DB - 6A - 29-8
9. Tanner Ogden - 11 - RV - 4A - 33-1
10. Eddie Creek - 12 - MRV - 321A - 32-4


152:
1. Alex Bontz - 12 - AC - 5A - 35-1
2. Ky Biddle - 12 - CB - 321A - 36-0
3. Tyler McMichael - 12 - ARK - 5A - 18-3
4. Rusty Yarrow - 12 - CC - 4A - 28-3
5. Razzy Morales - 12 - ULY - 4A - 33-4
6. Seth Sharpe - 12 - MUL - 4A - 38-3
7. Rory Haug - 12 - ON - 6A - 23-3
8. Kyle Armstrong - 11 - AN - 4A - 34-6
9. Mark Hobson - 12 - BS - 4A - 31-5
10. Mark Smith - 12 - ROS - 321A - 40-5


160:
1t. Connor Middleton - 12 - ONW - 6A - 37-1
1t. Sam Son - 12 - CH - 4A - 40-0
3. Colton Duhr - 12 - AN - 4A - 31-2
4. Gavin Grater - 10 - CC - 4A - 33-3
5. Eric Albers - 12 - OAK - 321A - 31-0
6. Trey Dice - 12 - ARK - 5A - 31-4
7. Jacob Eggers - 12 - DC - 6A - 30-6
8. Noel Torres - 11 - EMP - 5A - 28-4
9. Bryant Guillen - 11 - SEA - 5A - 23-6
10. Aaron Puckett - 11 - BS - 4A - 27-3


170:
1. Matt Reed - 12 - WH - 6A - 26-0
2. Levi Eck - 11 - AN - 4A - 36-1
3. Blaine Hill - 12 - SME - 6A - 34-2
4. Preston Weigel - 10 - HAY - 5A - 35-1
5. Nick Pursel - 12 - LAW - 6A - 34-3
6. Brian Wood - 12 - MH - 6A - 33-6
7. Riley Hunsicker - 12 - ELL - 321A - 24-4
8. Jesse LeMay - 12 - WEL - 321A - 37-2
9. Tanner Gardner - 12 - CLW - 4A - 33-3
10. Jared Langley - 9 - NEW - 5A - 31-11


182:
1. Reece Wright-Conklin - 12 - LAW - 6A - 34-2
2. Spencer Wilson - 11 - LFS - 6A - 30-3
3. Nick Meck - 11 - SH - 5A - 34-2
4. Kane Kelly - 12 - AB - 4A - 36-2
5. Cole Cannon - 12 - DS - 4A - 26-2
6. Darien Willis - 12 - SUM - 4A - 31-2
7. Tyler Lowe - 12 - EUR - 321A - 34-1
8. Hunter Weddington - 12 - AND - 5A - 34-4
9. Brock Long - 12 - SES - 321A - 28-1
10. Dalton Rodd - 11 - AC - 5A- 25-7


195:
1. Colt Castlebury - 12 - DOU - 321A - 39-1
2. Laine Herl - 12 - GDL - 321A - 38-1
3. Ulyesses DeShazer - 12 - WH - 6A - 31-2
4. Chad Blair - 11 - VC - 5A - 34-2
5. Alex Stockton - 12 - GE - 6A - 39-3
6. Dillon Archer - 11 - NEW - 5A - 28-3
7. Ty Suggs - 12 - MH - 6A - 30-7
8. Shawn Marlatt - 12 - DB - 6A - 30-8
9. Litton VanDerWerff - 12 - LS - 5A - 26-7
10t. Josh McDowell - 12 - SC - 321A - 32-3
10t. Taylor Krier - 12 - MCP - 4A - 25-7


220:
1t Luke Bean - 12 - KMC - 5A - 43-0
1t. Nathan Butler - 11 - LV - 6A - 38-1
3. Cash Drylie - 12 - HAY - 5A - 35-2
4. Riley Oharah - 12 - GDL - 321A - 34-1
5. Colton Lissolo - 12 - HUG - 4A - 13-1
6. Tyler Keller - 12 - WNW - 6A - 30-3
7. Justin Scott - 10 - JFW - 4A - 36-2
8. Colton Bonner - 12 - BAL - 4A - 40-4
9. Jordan Brown - 12 - CON - 4A - 35-3
10. Tanner Taylor - 12 - BUR - 321A - 39-2


285:
1. Will Geary - 11 - TOP - 6A - 27-0
2. Eric Mason - 12 - STA - 5A - 34-1
3. Luke Hayes - 12 - SC - 321A - 32-0
4. Zach Lanning - 12 - MCP - 4A - 27-2
5. Zach Callahan - 12 - MV - 5A - 34-5
6. Broc Bennett - 12 - PT - 4A - 30-6
7. Tarez Griffen - 12 - WNW - 6A - 30-1
8. Tylor Woodruff - 12 - GD - 5A - 3-0
9. Clay Wilcox - 11 - CHP - 321A - 39-3
10. Jacob English - 12 - BEL - 321A - 28-1


Posted By: wrestle nuts

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 02/22/12 08:51 PM

ARCHER FROM NEWTON IS 3 AND 0 AGAINST SUGGS AND 6 AND 2 AGAINST TOP 10. LOST TO CASTLEBURY AND 1 & 1 AGAINST DESHAZER
Posted By: Wyatt Bechtel

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 02/22/12 09:35 PM

At 182 Tyler Lowe of Eureka is 2-0 against Hunter Weddington of Andover this season.
Posted By: Kakemono

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 02/23/12 12:12 AM

I couldn't find it, but wasn't Lowe's only loss a close one when he bumped up to wrestle Castlebury at 195?
Posted By: D.W.

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 02/23/12 01:00 AM


Does that really matter. You do know he's 3A?
Posted By: Wyatt Bechtel

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 02/23/12 02:06 AM

Originally Posted By: Kakemono
I couldn't find it, but wasn't Lowe's only loss a close one when he bumped up to wrestle Castlebury at 195?


Yeah, Lowe bumped up to wrestle Castlebury in a dual with Douglass. The score was 6-4.
Posted By: Chief Renegade

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 02/27/12 08:30 PM

TEAM RANKINGS:

1. Arkansas City - 5A
2. Newton - 5A
3. Manhattan - 6A
4. Goddard - 5A
5. St. Thomas Aquinas - 5A
6. Andover Central - 5A
7. Andale - 4A
8. Wichita Heights - 6A
9. Colby - 4A
10. Lawrence - 6A

Invites for the two All-Class dual teams traveling to Denver, CO are underway! We will take 28-30 wrestlers to the Rocky Mountain Nationals! I am still accepting criteria input for a short while....


106:
1. Dakota Leach - 11 - GD - 5A - 35-2
2. Trey Francka - 11 - CCO - 321A - 38-2
3. Logan Terrill - 9 - ARK - 5A - 37-8
4. Reese Cokeley - 10 - SJA - 4A - 44-7
5. Jake Goldenstein - 9 - AUG - 4A - 35-2
6. Parker Howell - 10 - KMC - 5A - 41-4
7. Luke Henes - 10 - STA - 5A - 40-3
8. Sean DeShazer - 9 - WH - 6A - 25-6
9. Jase Stone - 11 - MH - 6A - 38-5
10t. Tristan Star - 9 - LAW - 6A - 39-8
10t. Cody McDonald - 9 - DB - 6A - 32-14


113:
1. Zac Gentzler - 11 - AC - 5A - 40-0
2. Jason Perez - 12 - ULY - 4A - 32-5
3. Tyler Mies - 10 - AN - 4A - 34-4
4. Alex Garcia - 12 - DC - 6A - 32-8
5. Javier Vieyra - 12 - SS - 5A - 28-8
6. Michael Lindlar - 11 - WNW - 6A - 29-6
7. Joey Defore - 10 - CB - 321A - 36-0
8. Hunter Price - 11 - HOL - 4A - 29-5
9. Nick Haug - 9 - ON - 6A - 39-8
10. Cesar Regalado - 10 - PRT - 4A - 31-12


120:
1. Isaac Dulgarian - 9 - STA - 5A - 42-1
2. Dustin Reed - 11 - CLB - 4A - 44-1
3. Tim Prescott - 12 - MCP - 4A - 31-3
4. Brandon Ball - 10 - HOI - 321A - 37-2
5. Jonathan Peterson - 12 - HUT - 6A - 7-1
6. Jacob Parise - 12 - BVW - 6A - 28-6
7. Anthony Calderon - 12 - GC - 6A - 30-7
8. Patrick Burrus - 10 - KMC - 5A - 40-9
9. Quinton Harrison - 11 - NEW - 5A - 32-9
10. Chris Burley - 11 - GB - 5A - 34-5


126:
1. Austin Hood - 12 - LOU - 4A - 40-0
2. Bryce Shoemaker - 11 - BAL - 4A - 40-6
3. Michael Olsen - 10 - LS - 5A - 37-6
4. Colby Watters - 12 - ARK - 5A - 37-2
5. Hunter Haralson - 11 - LAW - 6A - 39-6
6. TJ Stokes - 12 - GE - 6A - 28-5
7. Dylan Schumacher - 12 - TMP - 321A - 29-3
8. Dane Edwards - 11 - DC - 6A - 37-5
9. Alex Wolf - 12 - SV - 4A - 38-3
10. Tyler Dickman - 10 - MV - 5A - 36-11


132:
1. Bo Pursel - 12 - LS - 5A - 44-0
2. Brogan Humphrey - 10 - FRE - 321A - 44-1
3. Cody Eastman - 11 - ARK - 5A - 39-7
4. Clay Mulligan - 12 - SC - 321A - 39-3
5. Andrew Morgan - 12 - BAL - 4A - 43-9
6. Kyle Wilson - 11 - WAM - 4A - 38-2
7. Aaron Engles - 12 - AN - 4A - 28-7
8. Greg Burley - 10 - GB - 5A - 23-3
9. AJ Hurtado - 11 - GC - 6A - 33-13
10. Riley Soward - 12 - HAL - 36-7


138:
1. Brandon Charbonneau - 12 - EMP - 5A - 44-0
2. Konnor Kriss - 12 - CLB - 4A - 43-2
3. Calvin Ochs - 11 - HOX - 321A - 30-3
4. Tommy Williams - 12 - STA - 5A - 41-4
5. Victor Hughes - 11 - FS - 4A - 41-5
6. Andrew Millsap - 10 - JC - 6A - 29-6
7. Reis Humphrey - 11 - SMS - 6A - 39-4
8. Brady Heincker - 12 - DB - 6A - 36-6
9. Austin Hughey - 12 - EUD - 4A - 38-5
10. Taylor Watkins - 9 - COL - 4A - 37-11


145:
1. Aaron Seybold - 12 - PT - 4A - 37-3
2. Jonathan Blackwell - 11 - BS - 4A - 44-3
3. Tagen Lambotte - 10 - ROS - 321A - 34-1
4. Dustin Williams - 10 - GE - 6A - 41-3
5. Miles Johns - 12 - NEW - 5A - 38-2
6. Lincoln Lemon - 12 - GD - 5A - 36-8
7. Ben Becker - 11 - DB - 6A - 32-9
8. Tanner Ogden - 11 - RV - 4A - 37-2
9. Eddie Creek - 12 - MRV - 321A - 35-5
10. Mike Wurts - 12 - ON - 6A - 35-10


152:
1. Alex Bontz - 12 - AC - 5A - 39-1
2. Ky Biddle - 12 - CB - 321A - 40-0
3. Tyler McMichael - 12 - ARK - 5A - 21-4
4. Razzy Morales - 12 - ULY - 4A - 37-4
5. Jared Johnson - 11 - PR - 321A - 38-3
6. Rory Haug - 12 - ON - 6A - 27-3
7. Mark Hobson - 12 - BS - 4A - 31-5
8. Rusty Yarrow - 12 - CC - 4A - 33-4
9. Seth Sharpe - 12 - MUL - 4A - 38-3
10. Mark Smith - 12 - ROS - 321A - 44-6


160:
1. Sam Son - 12 - CH - 4A - 44-0
2. Connor Middleton - 12 - ONW - 6A - 41-1
3. Eric Albers - 12 - OAK - 321A - 31-0
4. Gavin Grater - 10 - CC - 4A - 36-4
5. Colton Duhr - 12 - AN - 4A - 35-3
6. Bryant Guillen - 11 - SEA - 5A - 27-6
7. Trey Dice - 12 - ARK - 5A - 36-5
8. Jacob Eggers - 12 - DC - 6A - 35-7
9. Noel Torres - 11 - EMP - 5A - 32-6
10. Aaron Puckett - 11 - BS - 4A - 30-5


170:
1. Matt Reed - 12 - WH - 6A - 30-0
2. Levi Eck - 11 - AN - 4A - 40-1
3. Preston Weigel - 10 - HAY - 5A - 39-1
4. Blaine Hill - 12 - SME - 6A - 38-3
5. Brian Wood - 12 - MH - 6A - 36-7
6. Riley Hunsicker - 12 - ELL - 321A - 28-4
7. Nick Pursel - 12 - LAW - 6A - 36-4
8. Jesse LeMay - 12 - WEL - 321A - 40-3
9. Trent Salsbury - 10 - SJA - 4A - 41-15
10. Jared Clements - 11 - BS - 4A - 31-9


182:
1. Reece Wright-Conklin - 12 - LAW - 6A - 38-2
2. Spencer Wilson - 11 - LFS - 6A - 35-4
3. Nick Meck - 11 - SH - 5A - 34-2
4. Kane Kelly - 12 - AB - 4A - 40-2
5. Cole Cannon - 12 - DS - 4A - 29-3
6. Tyler Lowe - 12 - EUR - 321A - 34-1
7. Hunter Weddington - 12 - AND - 5A - 37-5
8. Darien Willis - 12 - SUM - 4A - 35-4
9. Brock Long - 12 - SES - 321A - 31-2
10t. Kasey Crump - 12 - PRT - 4A - 22-4
10t. Brady Munsch - 12 - SS - 5A - 35-7


195:
1. Colt Castlebury - 12 - 321A - 43-1
2. Laine Herl - 12 - GDL - 321A - 41-2
3. Dillon Archer - 11 - NEW - 5A - 32-3
4. Ty Suggs - 12 - MH - 6A - 34-7
5. Ulyesses DeShazer - 12 - WH - 6A - 34-3
6. Taylor Krier - 12 - MCP - 4A - 29-7
7. Chad Blair - 11 - VC - 5A - 29-3
8. Shawn Marlatt - 12 - DB - 6A - 35-9
9. Alex Stockton - 12 - GE - 6A - 42-5
10t. Eastin Dockers - 12 - RH - 4A - 27-7
10t. Josh McDowell - 12 - SC - 321A - 36-4


220:
1. Luke Bean - 12 - KMC - 5A - 43-0
2. Nathan Butler - 11 - LV - 6A - 42-1
3. Cash Drylie - 12 - HAY - 5A - 38-3
4. Colton Bonner - 12 - BAL - 4A - 44-4
5. Austin Veach - 12 - DW - 321A - 23-2
6. Riley Oharah - 12 - GDL - 321A - 37-2
7. Justin Scott - 10 - JW - 4A - 39-3
8. Colton Lissolo - 12 - HUG - 4A - 16-2
9. Jordan Brown - 12 - CON - 4A - 35-3
10. Tanner Taylor - 12 - BUR - 321A - 29-7


285:
1. Will Geary - 11 - TOP - 6A - 31-0
2. Luke Hayes - 12 - SC - 321A - 36-0
3. Eric Mason - 12 - STA - 5A - 38-1
4. Broc Bennett - 12 - PT - 4A - 34-6
5. Zach Callahan - 12 - MV - 5A - 37-6
6. Zach Lanning - 12 - MCP - 4A - 30-3
7. Tarez Griffen - 12 - WNW - 6A - 33-2
8. Jacob English - 12 - BEL - 321A - 32-2
9. Trevin Edelman - 12 - SAB - 321A - 32-2
10. Clay Wilcox - 11 - CHP - 321A - 42-5
Posted By: Blast2l!

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 02/27/12 10:04 PM

120 had to be a tough one to rank!
Posted By: Dean Welsh

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 02/27/12 10:09 PM

Agreed on 120. I have seen Reed wrestle several times so I know first-hand that he was/is a stud. At the state finals was the first time I saw the Freshman (I can't remember how to spell his name, and don't want to butcher it up) wrestle. GHEZ! Tough as nails. I imagine he has won kid's state a time or two or three? Got any history on him?

They each had one loss on the season.

Who beat them?
Posted By: Quagmire

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 02/27/12 10:54 PM

Isaac Dulgarian lost to Brad Perkins from Oak Park. Perkins hasn't lost a high school match yet.
Dustin Reed lost to Josh Walker from Tulsa Union.
Posted By: Chiefs

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 02/27/12 11:59 PM

Originally Posted By: dwelsh
Agreed on 120. I have seen Reed wrestle several times so I know first-hand that he was/is a stud. At the state finals was the first time I saw the Freshman (I can't remember how to spell his name, and don't want to butcher it up) wrestle. GHEZ! Tough as nails. I imagine he has won kid's state a time or two or three? Got any history on him?

They each had one loss on the season.

Who beat them?


You can watch the match here -

Dulgarian vs Perkins
Posted By: lakemats

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 02/28/12 12:32 AM

Side note on the Dulgarian Perkins match: The refs missed a locked hands @ the 2:43 mark in the video. Just watched for entertainment and that jumped out to me.
Posted By: John Johnson

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 02/28/12 01:25 AM

Didn't John Risewick NORTON beat Harrison this year at Newton??
Posted By: Ricky Bobby

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 02/28/12 02:09 AM

Originally Posted By: John Johnson
Didn't John Risewick NORTON beat Harrison this year at Newton??


Isn't Risewick in 321A?

Just kidding about the 321A jab, but there does seem to be a lack of respect for the wrestlers in that 120 lb. bracket at 321A. Last week 3 wrestlers were in the rankings now only 1. Seems a bit odd to me as well.

If I were ranking that weight I'd put Risewick at the #5 spot for his performance at Newton TOC.

He also doesn't have a loss to a non-state placer as some of the other ranked wrestlers do. Risewick lost to #2 Reed, #3 Prescott, and #4 Ball. He also lost to Alex Kough of Scott City, but beat him at regionals. His other loss is to Josh Walker of Tulsa Union, who I believe is nationally ranked.

I'm not sure if you could put any other 321A guys into the mix at 120 but Risewick certainly deserves to be ranked after the season he had.
Posted By: HEADUP

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 02/28/12 02:10 AM

Originally Posted By: lakemats
Side note on the Dulgarian Perkins match: The refs missed a locked hands @ the 2:43 mark in the video. Just watched for entertainment and that jumped out to me.


good catch.

but it depends on when the escape was given. i couldn't see the ref to know exactly when he had given the escape
Posted By: Chief Renegade

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 02/28/12 01:05 PM

TEAM RANKINGS:

1. Arkansas City - 5A
2. Newton - 5A
3. Manhattan - 6A
4. Goddard - 5A
5. St. Thomas Aquinas - 5A
6. Andover Central - 5A
7. Andale - 4A
8. Wichita Heights - 6A
9. Colby - 4A
10. Lawrence - 6A

Invites for the two All-Class dual teams traveling to Denver, CO are underway! We will take 28-30 wrestlers to the Rocky Mountain Nationals! I am still accepting criteria input for a short while....


106:
1. Dakota Leach - 11 - GD - 5A - 35-2
2. Trey Francka - 11 - CCO - 321A - 38-2
3. Logan Terrill - 9 - ARK - 5A - 37-8
4. Reese Cokeley - 10 - SJA - 4A - 44-7
5. Jake Goldenstein - 9 - AUG - 4A - 35-2
6. Parker Howell - 10 - KMC - 5A - 41-4
7. Luke Henes - 10 - STA - 5A - 40-3
8. Sean DeShazer - 9 - WH - 6A - 25-6
9. Jase Stone - 11 - MH - 6A - 38-5
10t. Tristan Star - 9 - LAW - 6A - 39-8
10t. Cody McDonald - 9 - DB - 6A - 32-14


113:
1. Zac Gentzler - 11 - AC - 5A - 40-0
2. Jason Perez - 12 - ULY - 4A - 32-5
3. Tyler Mies - 10 - AN - 4A - 34-4
4. Alex Garcia - 12 - DC - 6A - 32-8
5. Javier Vieyra - 12 - SS - 5A - 28-8
6. Michael Lindlar - 11 - WNW - 6A - 29-6
7. Joey Defore - 10 - CB - 321A - 36-0
8. Hunter Price - 11 - HOL - 4A - 29-5
9. Nick Haug - 9 - ON - 6A - 39-8
10. Cesar Regalado - 10 - PRT - 4A - 31-12


120:
1. Isaac Dulgarian - 9 - STA - 5A - 42-1
2. Dustin Reed - 11 - CLB - 4A - 44-1
3. Tim Prescott - 12 - MCP - 4A - 31-3
4. Brandon Ball - 10 - HOI - 321A - 37-2
5. John Risewick - 11 - NOR - 321A - 35-5
6. Jonathan Peterson - 12 - HUT - 6A - 7-1
7. Jacob Parise - 12 - BVW - 6A - 28-6
8. Anthony Calderon - 12 - GC - 6A - 30-7
9. Patrick Burrus - 10 - KMC - 5A - 40-9
10t. Quinton Harrison - 11 - NEW - 5A - 32-9
10t. Chris Burley - 11 - GB - 5A - 34-5


126:
1. Austin Hood - 12 - LOU - 4A - 40-0
2. Bryce Shoemaker - 11 - BAL - 4A - 40-6
3. Michael Olsen - 10 - LS - 5A - 37-6
4. Colby Watters - 12 - ARK - 5A - 37-2
5. Hunter Haralson - 11 - LAW - 6A - 39-6
6. TJ Stokes - 12 - GE - 6A - 28-5
7. Dylan Schumacher - 12 - TMP - 321A - 29-3
8. Dane Edwards - 11 - DC - 6A - 37-5
9. Alex Wolf - 12 - SV - 4A - 38-3
10. Tyler Dickman - 10 - MV - 5A - 36-11


132:
1. Bo Pursel - 12 - LS - 5A - 44-0
2. Brogan Humphrey - 10 - FRE - 321A - 44-1
3. Cody Eastman - 11 - ARK - 5A - 39-7
4. Clay Mulligan - 12 - SC - 321A - 39-3
5. Andrew Morgan - 12 - BAL - 4A - 43-9
6. Kyle Wilson - 11 - WAM - 4A - 38-2
7. Aaron Engles - 12 - AN - 4A - 28-7
8. Greg Burley - 10 - GB - 5A - 23-3
9. AJ Hurtado - 11 - GC - 6A - 33-13
10. Riley Soward - 12 - HAL - 36-7


138:
1. Brandon Charbonneau - 12 - EMP - 5A - 44-0
2. Konnor Kriss - 12 - CLB - 4A - 43-2
3. Calvin Ochs - 11 - HOX - 321A - 30-3
4. Tommy Williams - 12 - STA - 5A - 41-4
5. Victor Hughes - 11 - FS - 4A - 41-5
6. Andrew Millsap - 10 - JC - 6A - 29-6
7. Reis Humphrey - 11 - SMS - 6A - 39-4
8. Brady Heincker - 12 - DB - 6A - 36-6
9. Austin Hughey - 12 - EUD - 4A - 38-5
10. Taylor Watkins - 9 - COL - 4A - 37-11


145:
1. Aaron Seybold - 12 - PT - 4A - 38-2
2. Jonathan Blackwell - 11 - BS - 4A - 44-3
3. Tagen Lambotte - 10 - ROS - 321A - 34-1
4. Dustin Williams - 10 - GE - 6A - 41-3
5. Miles Johns - 12 - NEW - 5A - 38-2
6. Lincoln Lemon - 12 - GD - 5A - 36-8
7. Ben Becker - 11 - DB - 6A - 32-9
8. Tanner Ogden - 11 - RV - 4A - 37-2
9. Eddie Creek - 12 - MRV - 321A - 35-5
10. Mike Wurts - 12 - ON - 6A - 35-10


152:
1. Alex Bontz - 12 - AC - 5A - 39-1
2. Ky Biddle - 12 - CB - 321A - 40-0
3. Tyler McMichael - 12 - ARK - 5A - 21-4
4. Razzy Morales - 12 - ULY - 4A - 37-4
5. Jared Johnson - 11 - PR - 321A - 38-3
6. Rory Haug - 12 - ON - 6A - 27-3
7. Mark Hobson - 12 - BS - 4A - 31-5
8. Rusty Yarrow - 12 - CC - 4A - 33-4
9. Seth Sharpe - 12 - MUL - 4A - 38-3
10. Mark Smith - 12 - ROS - 321A - 44-6


160:
1. Sam Son - 12 - CH - 4A - 44-0
2. Connor Middleton - 12 - ONW - 6A - 41-1
3. Eric Albers - 12 - OAK - 321A - 37-0
4. Gavin Grater - 10 - CC - 4A - 36-4
5. Colton Duhr - 12 - AN - 4A - 35-3
6. Bryant Guillen - 11 - SEA - 5A - 27-6
7. Trey Dice - 12 - ARK - 5A - 36-5
8. Jacob Eggers - 12 - DC - 6A - 35-7
9. Noel Torres - 11 - EMP - 5A - 32-6
10t. Cody Carson - 12 - SMN - 6A - 38-7
10t. Aaron Puckett - 11 - BS - 4A - 30-5


170:
1. Matt Reed - 12 - WH - 6A - 30-0
2. Levi Eck - 11 - AN - 4A - 40-1
3. Preston Weigel - 10 - HAY - 5A - 39-1
4. Blaine Hill - 12 - SME - 6A - 38-3
5. Nick Pursel - 12 - LAW - 6A - 36-4
6. Brian Wood - 12 - MH - 6A - 36-7
7. Riley Hunsicker - 12 - ELL - 321A - 28-4
8. Jesse LeMay - 12 - WEL - 321A - 40-3
9. Trent Salsbury - 10 - SJA - 4A - 41-15
10. Jared Clements - 11 - BS - 4A - 31-9


182:
1. Reece Wright-Conklin - 12 - LAW - 6A - 38-2
2. Nick Meck - 11 - SH - 5A - 34-2
3. Spencer Wilson - 11 - LFS - 6A - 35-4
4. Kane Kelly - 12 - AB - 4A - 40-2
5. Cole Cannon - 12 - DS - 4A - 29-3
6. Tyler Lowe - 12 - EUR - 321A - 34-1
7. Hunter Weddington - 12 - AND - 5A - 37-5
8. Kasey Crump - 12 - PRT - 4A - 22-4
9. Darien Willis - 12 - SUM - 4A - 35-4
10t. Brock Long - 12 - SES - 321A - 31-2
10t. Brady Munsch - 12 - SS - 5A - 35-7


195:
1. Colt Castlebury - 12 - 321A - 43-1
2. Laine Herl - 12 - GDL - 321A - 41-2
3. Dillon Archer - 11 - NEW - 5A - 32-3
4. Ty Suggs - 12 - MH - 6A - 34-7
5. Ulyesses DeShazer - 12 - WH - 6A - 34-3
6. Taylor Krier - 12 - MCP - 4A - 29-7
7. Chad Blair - 11 - VC - 5A - 29-3
8. Shawn Marlatt - 12 - DB - 6A - 35-9
9. Alex Stockton - 12 - GE - 6A - 42-5
10t. Preston Solomon - 12 - AC - 5A - 24-12
10t. Josh McDowell - 12 - SC - 321A - 36-4


220:
1. Luke Bean - 12 - KMC - 5A - 43-0
2. Nathan Butler - 11 - LV - 6A - 42-1
3. Cash Drylie - 12 - HAY - 5A - 38-3
4. Colton Bonner - 12 - BAL - 4A - 44-4
5. Austin Veach - 12 - DW - 321A - 23-2
6. Riley Oharah - 12 - GDL - 321A - 37-2
7. Justin Scott - 10 - JW - 4A - 39-3
8. Colton Lissolo - 12 - HUG - 4A - 16-2
9. Jordan Brown - 12 - CON - 4A - 35-3
10. Tanner Taylor - 12 - BUR - 321A - 29-7


285:
1. Will Geary - 11 - TOP - 6A - 31-0
2. Luke Hayes - 12 - SC - 321A - 36-0
3. Eric Mason - 12 - STA - 5A - 38-1
4. Broc Bennett - 12 - PT - 4A - 34-6
5. Zach Callahan - 12 - MV - 5A - 37-6
6. Zach Lanning - 12 - MCP - 4A - 30-3
7. Tarez Griffen - 12 - WNW - 6A - 33-2
8. Jacob English - 12 - BEL - 321A - 32-2
9. Trevin Edelman - 12 - SAB - 321A - 32-2
10. Clay Wilcox - 11 - CHP - 321A - 42-5
Posted By: AAA

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 02/28/12 02:18 PM

Chief,.Seybold is 38-2 unless youre counting the loss @ home to his little sister?

Kevin Seybold
Posted By: AAA

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 02/28/12 02:20 PM

Chief,.Seybold is 38-2 unless youre counting the loss @ home to his little sister?

Kevin Seybold
Posted By: owcfan

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 02/28/12 03:44 PM

Eric Albers is 37-0
Posted By: Bad MaamaJamma

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 02/28/12 05:14 PM

138 Victor Hughes ranked 5th? Taylor Watkins 10th? Watkins beat Hughes head to head 3-1 at state!
Posted By: Chief Renegade

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 02/28/12 05:22 PM

Originally Posted By: Bad MaamaJamma
138 Victor Hughes ranked 5th? Taylor Watkins 10th? Watkins beat Hughes head to head 3-1 at state!


If those were the only two wrestlers, I agree. Taylor has 11 losses. Besides Kriss, Gehring, Fiscus, Cannon and Heincker, who are his other losses to?
Posted By: Bad MaamaJamma

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 02/28/12 09:13 PM

He lost to kids from MO, OK, CO but Watkins also beat (Millsap #6)
Posted By: Fred Richarson

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 02/29/12 01:29 AM

Who would win Zac Gentzler vs. Jason Perez
Posted By: AAA

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 02/29/12 01:37 AM

Considering Zac never gets taken down and has 1 loss in high school after 3yrs, I'd take Gentzler!! That said Perez is very impressive, his takedown with a few seconds left was phenonemal in the finals last Sat.

Kevin Seybold
Posted By: Quagmire

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 02/29/12 01:41 AM

Gentzler. No doubt. Perez had one heck of a state finals match though! If anyone has the film of Perez-Mies finals match from this year they should post it. Great example of why you should never stop wrestling until the final whistle.
Posted By: AndrewFTW

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 02/29/12 02:51 PM

Although a loss is a loss, you can hardly consider Watkins beating Millsap. Not crying about terrible calls but if you were at basehor and saw the match you would think differently. Not saying that this counts as criteria at all but Millsap did beat Watkins in Freestyle and in Greco at state.
Posted By: Bad MaamaJamma

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 02/29/12 03:17 PM

Not everyone wrestles greco an freestyle though every year. But head to head in the high school season Watkins beat Millsap. When I was in high school beating kids ranked higher than you earned you a stepup in the rankings I guess times have changed and thats not how it works anymore
Posted By: Chief Renegade

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 02/29/12 03:55 PM

Originally Posted By: Bad MaamaJamma
Not everyone wrestles greco an freestyle though every year. But head to head in the high school season Watkins beat Millsap. When I was in high school beating kids ranked higher than you earned you a stepup in the rankings I guess times have changed and thats not how it works anymore


Try to understand this...

If we were in a seeding meeting and the only two seedable wrestlers were Watkins and Millsap, Watkins would get the 1 seed. The All-Class rankings involve other wrestlers. Specifically, Humphrey, Heincker and Hughey who placed 2nd in Watkins bracket at state. After looking at the quality wins and commons, I cannot rank Taylor above those guys.
Posted By: Chief Renegade

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 02/29/12 04:02 PM

The All-Class Dual Teams are forming!!!! Please check your e-mails for invites that I have mailed out. We need to fill two full teams of 14 wrestlers each. As soon as a wrestler declines, I will invite the next wrestler in line.

This tournament is a blast! We took 17 state champions last year and put 6 in the finals. Some of our guys got 10 matches over the weekend. You only have to make weight once on Friday with TWO pounds allowance! That carries you through the Duals on Friday and the Saturday/Sunday bracketed Rocky Mountain National Tournament!

Walk outside, take in the cool air and view the mighty Rocky Mountains!

God's amazing creation!
Posted By: Bad MaamaJamma

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 02/29/12 04:45 PM

Alright not trying to put down any of these wrestlers either, because they are all great wrestlers but I'm saying head to head should have more influence than common opponents
Posted By: XGHSWC

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 02/29/12 04:47 PM

I believe that Watkins is well placed were he is. The fact that he even made the all class rankings at all is a testament to the spectacular finish that he had at state. You should be proud of where he is.

As Chief already pointed out when comparing only two kids, head to head is easy to go to. But when you have ten kids to analyze, you have to look at the overall picture, the whole year, the body of work, etc. and you certainly can't just say if A beat B and B beat C then A can beat C.

So with that in mind and considering the fact that I have no dog in the show, here is my assessment:
You can't put Watkins ahead of Hughey because Hughey was 2nd.
You can't put Hughey ahead of Heincker because Heincker beat Hughey at Rosehill so you can't put Watkins ahead of Heincker.
Humphrey beat Heincker so you can't put Watkins ahead of Humphrey.
Hughes has beaten Humphrey and Heincker so you can't put Watkins ahead of Hughes. I know, that's where you struggle.
But even though Watkins beat Hughes at state, a great accomplishment I should say, it is very difficult to justify putting him ahead of Hughes in the all class rankings.

The same reasoning applies to the Millsap comparison but Chief just kind of explained that. I do agree that at this point in the year, what happened last year in FS/GR should not be considered. I also wouldn't say that Watkin's did not beat Millsap at Basehor or the win somehow does not count, that is clearly an insult to Watkins. The win over Millsap does count, just not enough at the end of the year to rank Watkins ahead of Millsap, particularly since Millsap won a state bracket that contained Humphrey and Heincker. And I already explained why Watkins cannot be ahead of them.

As I said, Watkins is well placed where he is.
He is 1 of the top 10 kids in the state at a tough weight and as a freshman.
His ranking is a testament to the great season that he has had and we should all be proud of him.
Posted By: AAA

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 02/29/12 05:00 PM

X, who's on first? ha ha!

Kevin Seybold
Posted By: XGHSWC

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 02/29/12 05:04 PM

Originally Posted By: AAA
X, who's on first? ha ha!

Kevin Seybold


All I can say is not me because I just rounded third and I am heading home and I will be safe.
Posted By: Bad MaamaJamma

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 02/29/12 05:37 PM

It would be alot simpler if every win was guaranteed. Gotta love wrestling every match can gi either way
Posted By: XGHSWC

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 02/29/12 07:08 PM

And now after being on one side of a discussion I find myself on the other side and here is my grievance.

Kimple and Woodruff of Goddard should be ranked, with all due respect.

As much as I would love to say I am not biased, I know that Chief would never let me get by with that and he would call me out for sure as I do have a dog in this show, or should I say two dogs. But I am really being as objective as I can based on the facts and their history.

I do not see how Kimple cannot be ranked at 160 when he beat Torres at state. It's not like the Watkins scenario where A beat B, B beat C, C beat A. It seems pretty cut and dry. Kimple beat Torres at state and lost to Guillen in the finals. He lost to Dice in the finals at regional. He lost to Grater at the VC duals. He lost to Middleton at Derby. He defaulted to Ortiz of VC on the back side but he beat Ortiz in a dual and at regional. I can see where that is a tough one because to put Kimple in, you have to bump Torres or Puckett both bona fide all class quality kids. But obviously so is Kimple because he did beat Torres, as I said, and he did beat Puckett but it was last year at kid's state.

As for Woodruff, to me that is even more cut and dry if the rankings are a true reflection of where the 285 kids stack up right now. Woodruff's only loss is to Callahan at state. He was in the rankings last week after winning regionals. One week later he is out of the rankings when his only loss is a close loss to #5. I don't get it. But I would bet my house he could beat half the kids on the list.

With all due respect.
Posted By: gymrat

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 02/29/12 07:18 PM

i dont undestand how i dropped so low for injury defaulting with a dislocated shoulder. i beat wood three times this year.

Nick Pursel
Posted By: John Johnson

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 02/29/12 07:38 PM

If you are talking about 160 you also have a kid - Wuthnow - with only 2 loses - both to state champions - unranked. Some weight classes get real complex. I figure next year he will rank very high.
Posted By: Chief Renegade

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 02/29/12 07:51 PM

Good points X! I will think those over...
Posted By: Chief Renegade

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 02/29/12 07:52 PM

Originally Posted By: gymrat
i dont undestand how i dropped so low for injury defaulting with a dislocated shoulder. i beat wood three times this year.

Nick Pursel


I agree Nick. I fixed that.
Posted By: XGHSWC

. - 02/29/12 08:30 PM

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Posted By: Chief Renegade

Re: ALL-CLASS DUALS! - 03/01/12 04:26 PM

ALL-CLASS TEAM UPDATE!

We have 7 State Champions and 2 Runner-up's that have commited to joining our teams in Denver, CO on March 15-18!!!

Soon I will post the rosters as they fill up.

Thank you KANSAS!

- Chief
Posted By: Chief Renegade

Re: ALL-CLASS DUALS! - 03/01/12 05:23 PM

Add one more 3X state champ!!!
Posted By: owcfan

Re: ALL-CLASS DUALS! - 03/02/12 03:47 AM

What hotel is the team staying?
Posted By: Chief Renegade

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 03/02/12 02:41 PM

Originally Posted By: owcfan
What hotel is the team staying?


The reservations will be done today and will be posted here.

We now have 12 State Champions on the teams!
Posted By: Chief Renegade

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 03/13/12 11:38 AM

The final All-Class rankings will be posted on the weekend after the Senior Classic. Based on those rankings, I will print the 2011-12 All-Class Team shirts. If you are a Senior, the shirts are free. Due to KSHSAA regulations, underclassmen will need to pay for the cost of the shirt, $10.

Congratulations to all who have made the Top Ten at their weight!
Posted By: Pittpepa

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 03/14/12 09:44 PM

Just curious, does a wrestler have to participate in the Seniors Classic to receive an All Class T-Shirt? How will the Classic outcomes reflect on the last All Class rankings cool cool ? Thanks.
Posted By: Chief Renegade

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 03/14/12 10:03 PM

The T-shirts are awarded to the #1 ranked wrestler at each weight. The 14 members are displayed on the back. Many times the Senior Classic matches up wrestlers that are #1 and #2 but have not wrestled. I was specifically waiting on Middleton/Son but that match was avoided for some reason.

The 138's have already wrestled this year. It's possible that would change but I'm considering just printing the shirts now that the 160 match is not happening.
Posted By: Quagmire

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 03/14/12 11:18 PM

Wait till after senior nationals to decide between middleton and son.
Posted By: Pittpepa

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 03/15/12 12:56 AM

:)Thanks for the response Chief.
Posted By: Chief Renegade

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 03/24/12 03:12 PM

TEAM RANKINGS:

1. Arkansas City - 5A
2. Newton - 5A
3. Manhattan - 6A
4. Goddard - 5A
5. St. Thomas Aquinas - 5A
6. Andover Central - 5A
7. Andale - 4A
8. Wichita Heights - 6A
9. Colby - 4A
10. Lawrence - 6A

CONGRATULATIONS to the All-Class wrestlers! I will be ordering the shirts on Monday. If you finished #1, then send me your shirt size and address, to mail your shirt to. If you are not a senior, please mail me $10 to my home address: 2401 W. 79th St. Prairie Village, KS 66208. KSHSAA regulations require that you pay for them. For the seniors, it's on me!


106:
1. Dakota Leach - 11 - GD - 5A - 35-2
2. Trey Francka - 11 - CCO - 321A - 38-2
3. Logan Terrill - 9 - ARK - 5A - 37-8
4. Reese Cokeley - 10 - SJA - 4A - 44-7
5. Jake Goldenstein - 9 - AUG - 4A - 35-2
6. Parker Howell - 10 - KMC - 5A - 41-4
7. Luke Henes - 10 - STA - 5A - 40-3
8. Sean DeShazer - 9 - WH - 6A - 25-6
9. Jase Stone - 11 - MH - 6A - 38-5
10. Cody McDonald - 9 - DB - 6A - 32-14


113:
1. Zac Gentzler - 11 - AC - 5A - 40-0
2. Jason Perez - 12 - ULY - 4A - 32-5
3. Tyler Mies - 10 - AN - 4A - 34-4
4. Alex Garcia - 12 - DC - 6A - 32-8
5. Javier Vieyra - 12 - SS - 5A - 28-8
6. Michael Lindlar - 11 - WNW - 6A - 29-6
7. Joey Defore - 10 - CB - 321A - 36-0
8. Hunter Price - 11 - HOL - 4A - 29-5
9. Nick Haug - 9 - ON - 6A - 39-8
10. Cesar Regalado - 10 - PRT - 4A - 31-12


120:
1. Isaac Dulgarian - 9 - STA - 5A - 42-1
2. Dustin Reed - 11 - CLB - 4A - 44-1
3. Tim Prescott - 12 - MCP - 4A - 31-3
4. Brandon Ball - 10 - HOI - 321A - 37-2
5. John Risewick - 11 - NOR - 321A - 35-5
6. Jonathan Peterson - 12 - HUT - 6A - 7-1
7. Jacob Parise - 12 - BVW - 6A - 28-6
8. Anthony Calderon - 12 - GC - 6A - 30-7
9. Chris Burley - 11 - GB - 5A - 34-5
10. Patrick Burrus - 10 - KMC - 5A - 40-9


126:
1. Austin Hood - 12 - LOU - 4A - 40-0
2. Bryce Shoemaker - 11 - BAL - 4A - 40-6
3. Michael Olsen - 10 - LS - 5A - 37-6
4. Colby Watters - 12 - ARK - 5A - 37-2
5. Hunter Haralson - 11 - LAW - 6A - 39-6
6. TJ Stokes - 12 - GE - 6A - 28-5
7. Dylan Schumacher - 12 - TMP - 321A - 29-3
8. Dane Edwards - 11 - DC - 6A - 37-5
9. Alex Wolf - 12 - SV - 4A - 38-3
10. Tyler Dickman - 10 - MV - 5A - 36-11


132:
1. Bo Pursel - 12 - LS - 5A - 44-0
2. Brogan Humphrey - 10 - FRE - 321A - 44-1
3. Cody Eastman - 11 - ARK - 5A - 39-7
4. Clay Mulligan - 12 - SC - 321A - 39-3
5. Andrew Morgan - 12 - BAL - 4A - 43-9
6. Kyle Wilson - 11 - WAM - 4A - 38-2
7. Aaron Engles - 12 - AN - 4A - 28-7
8. Greg Burley - 10 - GB - 5A - 23-3
9. AJ Hurtado - 11 - GC - 6A - 33-13
10. Riley Soward - 12 - HAL - 36-7


138:
1. Brandon Charbonneau - 12 - EMP - 5A - 44-0
2. Konnor Kriss - 12 - CLB - 4A - 43-2
3. Calvin Ochs - 11 - HOX - 321A - 30-3
4. Tommy Williams - 12 - STA - 5A - 41-4
5. Victor Hughes - 11 - FS - 4A - 41-5
6. Andrew Millsap - 10 - JC - 6A - 29-6
7. Reis Humphrey - 11 - SMS - 6A - 39-4
8. Brady Heincker - 12 - DB - 6A - 36-6
9. Austin Hughey - 12 - EUD - 4A - 38-5
10. Taylor Watkins - 9 - COL - 4A - 37-11


145:
1. Aaron Seybold - 12 - PT - 4A - 38-2
2. Jonathan Blackwell - 11 - BS - 4A - 44-3
3. Tagen Lambotte - 10 - ROS - 321A - 34-1
4. Dustin Williams - 10 - GE - 6A - 41-3
5. Miles Johns - 12 - NEW - 5A - 38-2
6. Lincoln Lemon - 12 - GD - 5A - 36-8
7. Ben Becker - 11 - DB - 6A - 32-9
8. Tanner Ogden - 11 - RV - 4A - 37-2
9. Eddie Creek - 12 - MRV - 321A - 35-5
10. Mike Wurts - 12 - ON - 6A - 35-10


152:
1. Alex Bontz - 12 - AC - 5A - 39-1
2. Ky Biddle - 12 - CB - 321A - 40-0
3. Tyler McMichael - 12 - ARK - 5A - 21-4
4. Razzy Morales - 12 - ULY - 4A - 37-4
5. Jared Johnson - 11 - PR - 321A - 38-3
6. Rory Haug - 12 - ON - 6A - 27-3
7. Mark Hobson - 12 - BS - 4A - 31-5
8. Rusty Yarrow - 12 - CC - 4A - 33-4
9. Seth Sharpe - 12 - MUL - 4A - 38-3
10. Mark Smith - 12 - ROS - 321A - 44-6


160:
1. Sam Son - 12 - CH - 4A - 44-0
2. Connor Middleton - 12 - ONW - 6A - 41-1
3. Eric Albers - 12 - OAK - 321A - 37-0
4. Gavin Grater - 10 - CC - 4A - 36-4
5. Colton Duhr - 12 - AN - 4A - 35-3
6. Bryant Guillen - 11 - SEA - 5A - 27-6
7. Trey Dice - 12 - ARK - 5A - 36-5
8. Jacob Eggers - 12 - DC - 6A - 35-7
9. Noel Torres - 11 - EMP - 5A - 32-6
10t. Cody Carson - 12 - SMN - 6A - 38-7
10t. Aaron Puckett - 11 - BS - 4A - 30-5


170:
1. Matt Reed - 12 - WH - 6A - 30-0
2. Levi Eck - 11 - AN - 4A - 40-1
3. Preston Weigel - 10 - HAY - 5A - 39-1
4. Blaine Hill - 12 - SME - 6A - 38-3
5. Nick Pursel - 12 - LAW - 6A - 36-4
6. Brian Wood - 12 - MH - 6A - 36-7
7. Riley Hunsicker - 12 - ELL - 321A - 28-4
8. Jesse LeMay - 12 - WEL - 321A - 40-3
9. Trent Salsbury - 10 - SJA - 4A - 41-15
10. Jared Clements - 11 - BS - 4A - 31-9


182:
1. Reece Wright-Conklin - 12 - LAW - 6A - 38-2
2. Nick Meck - 11 - SH - 5A - 34-2
3. Spencer Wilson - 11 - LFS - 6A - 35-4
4. Kane Kelly - 12 - AB - 4A - 40-2
5. Cole Cannon - 12 - DS - 4A - 29-3
6. Tyler Lowe - 12 - EUR - 321A - 34-1
7. Hunter Weddington - 12 - AND - 5A - 37-5
8. Kasey Crump - 12 - PRT - 4A - 22-4
9. Darien Willis - 12 - SUM - 4A - 35-4
10t. Brock Long - 12 - SES - 321A - 31-2
10t. Brady Munsch - 12 - SS - 5A - 35-7


195:
1. Colt Castlebury - 12 - 321A - 43-1
2. Laine Herl - 12 - GDL - 321A - 41-2
3. Dillon Archer - 11 - NEW - 5A - 32-3
4. Ty Suggs - 12 - MH - 6A - 34-7
5. Ulyesses DeShazer - 12 - WH - 6A - 34-3
6. Taylor Krier - 12 - MCP - 4A - 29-7
7. Chad Blair - 11 - VC - 5A - 29-3
8. Shawn Marlatt - 12 - DB - 6A - 35-9
9. Alex Stockton - 12 - GE - 6A - 42-5
10t. Preston Solomon - 12 - AC - 5A - 24-12
10t. Josh McDowell - 12 - SC - 321A - 36-4


220:
1. Luke Bean - 12 - KMC - 5A - 43-0
2. Nathan Butler - 11 - LV - 6A - 42-1
3. Cash Drylie - 12 - HAY - 5A - 38-3
4. Colton Bonner - 12 - BAL - 4A - 44-4
5. Austin Veach - 12 - DW - 321A - 23-2
6. Riley Oharah - 12 - GDL - 321A - 37-2
7. Justin Scott - 10 - JW - 4A - 39-3
8. Colton Lissolo - 12 - HUG - 4A - 16-2
9. Jordan Brown - 12 - CON - 4A - 35-3
10. Tanner Taylor - 12 - BUR - 321A - 29-7


285:
1. Will Geary - 11 - TOP - 6A - 31-0
2. Luke Hayes - 12 - SC - 321A - 36-0
3. Eric Mason - 12 - STA - 5A - 38-1
4. Broc Bennett - 12 - PT - 4A - 34-6
5. Zach Callahan - 12 - MV - 5A - 37-6
6. Zach Lanning - 12 - MCP - 4A - 30-3
7. Tarez Griffen - 12 - WNW - 6A - 33-2
8. Jacob English - 12 - BEL - 321A - 32-2
9. Trevin Edelman - 12 - SAB - 321A - 32-2
10. Clay Wilcox - 11 - CHP - 321A - 42-5


Posted By: Chief Renegade

Re: 2011-12 All-Class Rankings! - 04/02/12 12:06 PM

FINAL 2011-12 KANSAS ALL-CLASS RANKINGS!

TEAM RANKINGS:

1. Arkansas City - 5A
2. Newton - 5A
3. Manhattan - 6A
4. Goddard - 5A
5. St. Thomas Aquinas - 5A
6. Andover Central - 5A
7. Andale - 4A
8. Wichita Heights - 6A
9. Colby - 4A
10. Lawrence - 6A

CONGRATULATIONS to the All-Class wrestlers!


106:
1. Dakota Leach - 11 - GD - 5A - 35-2
2. Trey Francka - 11 - CCO - 321A - 38-2
3. Logan Terrill - 9 - ARK - 5A - 37-8
4. Reese Cokeley - 10 - SJA - 4A - 44-7
5. Jake Goldenstein - 9 - AUG - 4A - 35-2
6. Parker Howell - 10 - KMC - 5A - 41-4
7. Luke Henes - 10 - STA - 5A - 40-3
8. Sean DeShazer - 9 - WH - 6A - 25-6
9. Jase Stone - 11 - MH - 6A - 38-5
10. Cody McDonald - 9 - DB - 6A - 32-14


113:
1. Zac Gentzler - 11 - AC - 5A - 40-0
2. Jason Perez - 12 - ULY - 4A - 32-5
3. Tyler Mies - 10 - AN - 4A - 34-4
4. Alex Garcia - 12 - DC - 6A - 32-8
5. Javier Vieyra - 12 - SS - 5A - 28-8
6. Michael Lindlar - 11 - WNW - 6A - 29-6
7. Joey Defore - 10 - CB - 321A - 36-0
8. Hunter Price - 11 - HOL - 4A - 29-5
9. Nick Haug - 9 - ON - 6A - 39-8
10. Cesar Regalado - 10 - PRT - 4A - 31-12


120:
1. Isaac Dulgarian - 9 - STA - 5A - 42-1
2. Dustin Reed - 11 - CLB - 4A - 44-1
3. Tim Prescott - 12 - MCP - 4A - 31-3
4. Brandon Ball - 10 - HOI - 321A - 37-2
5. John Risewick - 11 - NOR - 321A - 35-5
6. Jonathan Peterson - 12 - HUT - 6A - 7-1
7. Jacob Parise - 12 - BVW - 6A - 28-6
8. Anthony Calderon - 12 - GC - 6A - 30-7
9. Chris Burley - 11 - GB - 5A - 34-5
10. Patrick Burrus - 10 - KMC - 5A - 40-9


126:
1. Austin Hood - 12 - LOU - 4A - 40-0
2. Bryce Shoemaker - 11 - BAL - 4A - 40-6
3. Michael Olsen - 10 - LS - 5A - 37-6
4. Colby Watters - 12 - ARK - 5A - 37-2
5. Hunter Haralson - 11 - LAW - 6A - 39-6
6. TJ Stokes - 12 - GE - 6A - 28-5
7. Dylan Schumacher - 12 - TMP - 321A - 29-3
8. Dane Edwards - 11 - DC - 6A - 37-5
9. Alex Wolf - 12 - SV - 4A - 38-3
10. Tyler Dickman - 10 - MV - 5A - 36-11


132:
1. Bo Pursel - 12 - LS - 5A - 44-0
2. Brogan Humphrey - 10 - FRE - 321A - 44-1
3. Cody Eastman - 11 - ARK - 5A - 39-7
4. Andrew Morgan - 12 - BAL - 4A - 43-9
5. Clay Mulligan - 12 - SC - 321A - 39-3
6. Kyle Wilson - 11 - WAM - 4A - 38-2
7. Aaron Engles - 12 - AN - 4A - 28-7
8. Greg Burley - 10 - GB - 5A - 23-3
9. AJ Hurtado - 11 - GC - 6A - 33-13
10. Riley Soward - 12 - HAL - 36-7


138:
1. Brandon Charbonneau - 12 - EMP - 5A - 44-0
2. Konnor Kriss - 12 - CLB - 4A - 43-2
3. Calvin Ochs - 11 - HOX - 321A - 30-3
4. Tommy Williams - 12 - STA - 5A - 41-4
5. Victor Hughes - 11 - FS - 4A - 41-5
6. Andrew Millsap - 10 - JC - 6A - 29-6
7. Reis Humphrey - 11 - SMS - 6A - 39-4
8. Brady Heincker - 12 - DB - 6A - 36-6
9. Austin Hughey - 12 - EUD - 4A - 38-5
10. Taylor Watkins - 9 - COL - 4A - 37-11


145:
1. Aaron Seybold - 12 - PT - 4A - 38-2
2. Jonathan Blackwell - 11 - BS - 4A - 44-3
3. Tagen Lambotte - 10 - ROS - 321A - 34-1
4. Dustin Williams - 10 - GE - 6A - 41-3
5. Miles Johns - 12 - NEW - 5A - 38-2
6. Lincoln Lemon - 12 - GD - 5A - 36-8
7. Ben Becker - 11 - DB - 6A - 32-9
8. Tanner Ogden - 11 - RV - 4A - 37-2
9. Eddie Creek - 12 - MRV - 321A - 35-5
10. Mike Wurts - 12 - ON - 6A - 35-10


152:
1. Alex Bontz - 12 - AC - 5A - 39-1
2. Ky Biddle - 12 - CB - 321A - 40-0
3. Tyler McMichael - 12 - ARK - 5A - 21-4
4. Razzy Morales - 12 - ULY - 4A - 37-4
5. Jared Johnson - 11 - PR - 321A - 38-3
6. Rory Haug - 12 - ON - 6A - 27-3
7. Mark Hobson - 12 - BS - 4A - 31-5
8. Rusty Yarrow - 12 - CC - 4A - 33-4
9. Seth Sharpe - 12 - MUL - 4A - 38-3
10. Mark Smith - 12 - ROS - 321A - 44-6


160:
1. Sam Son - 12 - CH - 4A - 44-0
2. Gavin Grater - 10 - CC - 4A - 36-4
3. Colton Duhr - 12 - AN - 4A - 35-3
4. Connor Middleton - 12 - ONW - 6A - 41-1
5. Eric Albers - 12 - OAK - 321A - 37-0
6. Bryant Guillen - 11 - SEA - 5A - 27-6
7. Trey Dice - 12 - ARK - 5A - 36-5
8. Jacob Eggers - 12 - DC - 6A - 35-7
9. Noel Torres - 11 - EMP - 5A - 32-6
10t. Cody Carson - 12 - SMN - 6A - 38-7
10t. Aaron Puckett - 11 - BS - 4A - 30-5


170:
1. Matt Reed - 12 - WH - 6A - 30-0
2. Levi Eck - 11 - AN - 4A - 40-1
3. Preston Weigel - 10 - HAY - 5A - 39-1
4. Blaine Hill - 12 - SME - 6A - 38-3
5. Nick Pursel - 12 - LAW - 6A - 36-4
6. Brian Wood - 12 - MH - 6A - 36-7
7. Riley Hunsicker - 12 - ELL - 321A - 28-4
8. Jesse LeMay - 12 - WEL - 321A - 40-3
9. Trent Salsbury - 10 - SJA - 4A - 41-15
10. Jared Clements - 11 - BS - 4A - 31-9


182:
1. Reece Wright-Conklin - 12 - LAW - 6A - 38-2
2. Nick Meck - 11 - SH - 5A - 34-2
3. Spencer Wilson - 11 - LFS - 6A - 35-4
4. Kane Kelly - 12 - AB - 4A - 40-2
5. Cole Cannon - 12 - DS - 4A - 29-3
6. Tyler Lowe - 12 - EUR - 321A - 34-1
7. Hunter Weddington - 12 - AND - 5A - 37-5
8. Kasey Crump - 12 - PRT - 4A - 22-4
9. Darien Willis - 12 - SUM - 4A - 35-4
10t. Brock Long - 12 - SES - 321A - 31-2
10t. Brady Munsch - 12 - SS - 5A - 35-7


195:
1. Colt Castlebury - 12 - 321A - 43-1
2. Laine Herl - 12 - GDL - 321A - 41-2
3. Dillon Archer - 11 - NEW - 5A - 32-3
4. Ty Suggs - 12 - MH - 6A - 34-7
5. Ulyesses DeShazer - 12 - WH - 6A - 34-3
6. Taylor Krier - 12 - MCP - 4A - 29-7
7. Chad Blair - 11 - VC - 5A - 29-3
8. Shawn Marlatt - 12 - DB - 6A - 35-9
9. Alex Stockton - 12 - GE - 6A - 42-5
10t. Preston Solomon - 12 - AC - 5A - 24-12
10t. Josh McDowell - 12 - SC - 321A - 36-4


220:
1. Luke Bean - 12 - KMC - 5A - 43-0
2. Nathan Butler - 11 - LV - 6A - 42-1
3. Cash Drylie - 12 - HAY - 5A - 38-3
4. Colton Bonner - 12 - BAL - 4A - 44-4
5. Austin Veach - 12 - DW - 321A - 23-2
6. Riley Oharah - 12 - GDL - 321A - 37-2
7. Justin Scott - 10 - JW - 4A - 39-3
8. Colton Lissolo - 12 - HUG - 4A - 16-2
9. Jordan Brown - 12 - CON - 4A - 35-3
10. Tanner Taylor - 12 - BUR - 321A - 29-7


285:
1. Will Geary - 11 - TOP - 6A - 31-0
2. Luke Hayes - 12 - SC - 321A - 36-0
3. Eric Mason - 12 - STA - 5A - 38-1
4. Broc Bennett - 12 - PT - 4A - 34-6
5. Zach Callahan - 12 - MV - 5A - 37-6
6. Zach Lanning - 12 - MCP - 4A - 30-3
7. Tarez Griffen - 12 - WNW - 6A - 33-2
8. Jacob English - 12 - BEL - 321A - 32-2
9. Trevin Edelman - 12 - SAB - 321A - 32-2
10. Clay Wilcox - 11 - CHP - 321A - 42-5


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