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3A rankings

Posted By: Kramer

3A rankings - 11/07/13 05:40 PM

Now posted
Posted By: Pastor Kelly

Re: 3A rankings - 11/07/13 05:55 PM

Yep, last year's.
Posted By: L.Geyer

Re: 3A rankings - 11/07/13 05:56 PM

I am not sure what is going on with your computers, but I just looked at 3A and 4A and they are both this years rankings.
Posted By: Chief Renegade

Re: 3A rankings - 11/07/13 05:57 PM

Nice. 321A would have a tough dual team with their #1 guys!
Posted By: KAS

Re: 3A rankings - 11/07/13 06:02 PM

Can't rank when you don't have accurate weights...don't rank until December! Team rankings are WHACK!
Posted By: Travis Phippen

Re: 3A rankings - 11/07/13 08:22 PM

Tristan Porsch will be a force to recon with at 106 or 113 this freshman is tough, Hoxie tough.
Posted By: effwhyeye

Re: 3A rankings - 11/07/13 08:37 PM

Can't seem to find Gavin Lively from last year.
Posted By: Niehuesj

Re: 3A rankings - 11/07/13 08:40 PM

Lively is ranked at 145
Posted By: effwhyeye

Re: 3A rankings - 11/07/13 09:21 PM

I understand, but I can't find him in the state brackets from last year. What are his accomplishments to be ranked?
Posted By: Coach Malay

Re: 3A rankings - 11/07/13 09:35 PM

He was ranked last year at 145 and lost a wrestle off before regionals and had to bump up to 160. Had many quality wins against 145 lbs wrestlers last year as a freshman. But i do see what you are saying effwhyeye.
Posted By: objective

Re: 3A rankings - 11/08/13 12:54 PM

Frank gave you bogus information. Tristan Speer will not be wrestling 195 for Doniphan West at state.
He goes to Troy High school
Posted By: Wyatt Bechtel

Re: 3A rankings - 11/08/13 03:04 PM

Originally Posted By: Coach Malay
He was ranked last year at 145 and lost a wrestle off before regionals and had to bump up to 160. Had many quality wins against 145 lbs wrestlers last year as a freshman. But i do see what you are saying effwhyeye.


Lively won the Western Kansas TOC at 145 lbs. last season where he pinned #3 ranked Trevor Desair, so that was the main criteria along with Lively being ranked last season prior to moving up to 160.
Posted By: Wyatt Bechtel

Re: 3A rankings - 11/08/13 03:11 PM

Originally Posted By: Travis Phippen
Tristan Porsch will be a force to recon with at 106 or 113 this freshman is tough, Hoxie tough.


I had him on my radar, but I wasn't 100 percent sure what weight he was going. I'm sure he'll be in the rankings at some point.
Posted By: Wyatt Bechtel

Re: 3A rankings - 11/08/13 08:05 PM

1. Norton
2. Plainville
3. Rossville
4. Oakley
5. Oberlin
6. Caney Valley
7. Silver Lake
8. Hoisington
9. ACCHS
10. Ellsworth

106
1. Caysean Campbell-11-Norton
2. Ty Nienke-12-Ellsworth
3. Cale Rogers-10-Smith Center
4. Gunner Kerns-10-Plainville
5. Hunter Idol-10-Doniphan West
6. Dalton Goans-10-Lyons

113
1. Ethan Ross-12-Norton
2. Troy Juenemann-11-Oberlin
3. Macoy Rains-10-Oakley
4. Beretta Janzen-11-Marion
5. Chris Deters-10-Marysville
6. Dylon Niswonger-10-Leoti

120
1. Alex Cavanaugh-10-Silver Lake
2. Logan Bowen-11-ACCHS
3. Macrae Migchelbrink-11-Rawlins Co.
4. Branson Addington-12-Norton
5. Marshall Schottler-12-Lyons
6. Mason Schweitzer-12-Hesston

126
1. Alec Hager-12-Norton
2. Clint Rogers-12-Smith Center
3. Haegan Schaefer-11-Silver Lake
4. Jonathan Ball-9-Hoisington
5. Casey Garner-11-Bluestem
6. T.J. Ragnoni-10-Bennington

132
1. Brandon Ball-12-Hoisington
2. Colton Stalford-11-Caney Valley
3. Andrew Beck-12-Centrallia
4. Marc Reiss-12-Rock Creek
5. Taylor Murphy-11-Oakley
6. Tyler Watts-12-Beloit

138
1. Brogan Humphrey-11-Fredonia
2. Dayton Dreher-12-Oberlin
3. Greg Tooley-11-St. Marys
4. Michael Dusin-12-Phillipsburg
5. Jared Tallent-11-Norton
6. Trevor Melcher-12-Herington

145
1. Mo Rojas-12-Ellsworth
2. Gavin Lively-10-Norton
3. Trevor Desair-12-Plainville
4. Willy Dieckmann-11-ACCHS
5. Storm Johnson-11-Wabaunsee
6. Tanner Niemczyk-12-Beloit

152
1. Tagen Lambotte-12-Rossville
2. Lucas McMichael-10-Central-Burden
3. Scott Birkinsha-12-ACCHS
4. Kreal Smith-12-Southeast of Saline
5. Trevor Fee-12-Doniphan West
6. Daegan Asebedo-12-Wellsville

160
1. Nick Reesor-11-Rossville
2. Cody Faulkender-12-Oakley
3. Colton Wise-12-Plainville
4. Keith Short-12-Southeast of Saline
5. Josh Nelson-11-Marysville
6. Tommy Avery-11-Jayhawk-Linn

170
1. Dylan Wiesner-12-Plainville
2. Bowe Behymer-12-Beloit
3. Rex Diederich-11-Oberlin
4. Braden Lockhart-12-Silver Lake
5. Isaac Luellen-10-Rossville
6. Cole Renner-12-Norton

182
1. Nick Wuthnow-12-Salina Sacred Heart
2. Gavin Grater-12-Riley Co.
3. Brice Mason-12-Leoti
4. A.J. Cooper-11-Cimarron
5. Cody Smallwood-12-Mission Valley
6. Tristin Paulsen-12-Stafford

195
1. Tristan Speer-11-Doniphan West
2. Kenny Brown-12-Caney Valley
3. Dylan Gassmann-11-Oakley
4. Avery Urban-12-Hoisington
5. Quentin Clark-11-Minneapolis
6. Dustin Blow-11-Onaga

220
1. Cody Walker-12-Wathena
2. Jesse Correll-12-Rock Creek
3. Clayton Jackson-12-Chase Co.
4. Ethan Gustus-11-Caney Valley
5. Seth Boswell-12-Phillipsburg
6. Skyler Tebo-12-Ellis

285
1. Jayden Helms-11-Chaparral
2. Zack Crick-12-South Gray
3. Fritz Berger-12-Sylvan-Grove
4. Jordan Turner-12-Erie
5. Daniel Couch-12-Central-Burden
6. Quade McCoy-12-Eureka
Posted By: Pastor Kelly

Re: 3A rankings - 11/09/13 03:14 AM

Casey Garner will be at 132
Posted By: Chief Renegade

Re: 3A rankings - 11/09/13 02:40 PM

Originally Posted By: Wyatt Bechtel
Originally Posted By: Travis Phippen
Tristan Porsch will be a force to recon with at 106 or 113 this freshman is tough, Hoxie tough.


I had him on my radar, but I wasn't 100 percent sure what weight he was going. I'm sure he'll be in the rankings at some point.


Porsche is very tough. The incoming freshman class is a special one. 106 is deep!
Posted By: Dylan Campbell

Re: 3A rankings - 11/12/13 03:22 PM

It might hurt our team ranking...but Cody Faulkender graduated last year smile
Posted By: Wyatt Bechtel

Re: 3A rankings - 11/12/13 04:17 PM

Originally Posted By: Dylan Campbell
It might hurt our team ranking...but Cody Faulkender graduated last year smile


Thanks for the heads up Coach Campbell! I'll get it corrected in the next version.
Posted By: Coach Malay

Re: 3A rankings - 11/13/13 02:08 AM

So did wise from p-ville
Posted By: Wyatt Bechtel

Re: 3A rankings - 11/13/13 11:29 PM

Originally Posted By: Coach Malay
So did wise from p-ville


Thanks! I had him incorrectly entered in last year's spread sheet and didn't look it up to start the season. I'll get it corrected.
Posted By: Wyatt Bechtel

Re: 3A rankings - 11/15/13 10:37 PM

The last Pre-season KWCA ranking release will be next Tuesday, November 19th!

Please send me weight changes or other info.

Thanks,
Wyatt

wyatt_bechtel@yahoo.com
Posted By: REVOLUTION

Re: 3A rankings - 11/15/13 11:47 PM

FYI- Jaden Helms does not have a y in his first name...

Coach Wilcox
Posted By: Wyatt Bechtel

Re: 3A rankings - 11/20/13 02:25 AM

The updated 321A Rankings have been posted.
Posted By: Wyatt Bechtel

Re: 3A rankings - 11/22/13 06:11 PM

3A Rankings 2013-2014
November 19, 2013

1. Norton
2. Rossville
3. Caney Valley
4. Oberlin
5. Smith Center
6. Silver Lake
7. Hoisington
8. Doniphan West
9. Plainville
10. Ellsworth


106
1. Caysean Campbell-11-Norton
2. Ty Nienke-12-Ellsworth
3. Cale Rogers-10-Smith Center
4. Dalton Goans-10-Lyons
5. Hunter Idol-10-Doniphan West
6. Kody Kind-10-Bennington

113
1. Ethan Ross-12-Norton
2. Troy Juenemann-11-Oberlin
3. Macoy Rains-10-Oakley
4. Beretta Janzen-11-Marion
5. Chris Deters-10-Marysville
6. Dylon Niswonger-10-Leoti

120
1. Alex Cavanaugh-10-Silver Lake
2. Macrae Migchelbrink-11-Rawlins Co.
3. Branson Addington-12-Norton
4. Marshall Schottler-12-Lyons
5. Mason Schweitzer-12-Hesston
6. Jim Weller-12-Southeast of Saline

126
1. Alec Hager-12-Norton
2. Clint Rogers-12-Smith Center
3. Haegan Schaefer-11-Silver Lake
4. Jonathan Ball-9-Hoisington
5. T.J. Ragnoni-10-Bennington
6. Guy Kinder-12-Caney Valley

132
1. Brandon Ball-12-Hoisington
2. Colton Stalford-11-Caney Valley
3. Andrew Beck-12-Centrallia
4. Logan Bowen-11-ACCHS
5. Taylor Murphy-11-Oakley
6. Tyler Watts-12-Beloit

138
1. Brogan Humphrey-12-Fredonia
2. Dayton Dreher-12-Oberlin
3. Greg Tooley-11-St. Marys
4. Michael Dusin-12-Phillipsburg
5. Jared Tallent-11-Norton
6. Trevor Melcher-12-Herington

145
1. Mo Rojas-12-Ellsworth
2. Gavin Lively-10-Norton
3. Willy Dieckmann-11-ACCHS
4. Marc Reiss-12-Rock Creek
5. Storm Johnson-11-Wabaunsee
6. Tanner Niemczyk-12-Beloit

152
1. Tagen Lambotte-12-Rossville
2. Lucas McMichael-10-Central-Burden
3. Kreal Smith-12-Southeast of Saline
4. Trevor Fee-12-Doniphan West
5. Daegan Asebedo-12-Wellsville
6. Grant Lambert-12-Smith Center

160
1. Nick Reesor-11-Rossville
2. Trevor Desair-12-Plainville
3. Keith Short-12-Southeast of Saline
4. Wyatt Oliver-12-Smith Center
5. Josh Nelson-11-Marysville
6. Tommy Avery-11-Jayhawk-Linn

170
1. Dylan Wiesner-12-Plainville
2. Bowe Behymer-12-Beloit
3. Rex Diederich-11-Oberlin
4. Braden Lockhart-12-Silver Lake
5. Isaac Luellen-10-Rossville
6. Cole Renner-12-Norton

182
1. Nick Wuthnow-12-Salina Sacred Heart
2. Gavin Grater-12-Riley Co.
3. Brice Mason-12-Leoti
4. A.J. Cooper-11-Cimarron
5. Cody Smallwood-12-Mission Valley
6. Tristin Paulsen-12-Stafford

195
1. Tristan Speer-11-Doniphan West
2. Kenny Brown-12-Caney Valley
3. Dylan Gassmann-11-Oakley
4. Avery Urban-12-Hoisington
5. Quentin Clark-11-Minneapolis
6. Dustin Blow-11-Onaga

220
1. Cody Walker-12-Wathena
2. Jesse Correll-12-Rock Creek
3. Clayton Jackson-12-Chase Co.
4. Ethan Gustus-11-Caney Valley
5. Seth Boswell-12-Phillipsburg
6. Skyler Tebo-12-Ellis

285
1. Jaden Helms-11-Chaparral
2. Zack Crick-12-South Gray
3. Fritz Berger-12-Sylvan-Grove
4. Jordan Turner-12-Erie
5. Daniel Couch-12-Central-Burden
6. Quade McCoy-12-Eureka
Posted By: Chief Renegade

Re: 3A rankings - 11/22/13 06:23 PM

Curious about this comparison:

2. Dayton Dreher-12-Oberlin
3. Greg Tooley-11-St. Marys
Posted By: objective

Re: 3A rankings - 11/22/13 07:24 PM

Tristan Speer does not even attend Doniphan West. he transferred to Troy and was eligible to play football after sitting out 5 weks. True troy coops with D West but not at state.
Posted By: Wyatt Bechtel

Re: 3A rankings - 11/22/13 09:30 PM

Originally Posted By: objective
Tristan Speer does not even attend Doniphan West. he transferred to Troy and was eligible to play football after sitting out 5 weks. True troy coops with D West but not at state.


Thank you for the update. I will try to have it fixed in the next rankings.

It's too bad he transferred seeing as Doniphan West had a good chance of being a top 10 program this season.
Posted By: Wyatt Bechtel

Re: 3A rankings - 11/22/13 09:45 PM

Originally Posted By: Chief Renegade
Curious about this comparison:

2. Dayton Dreher-12-Oberlin
3. Greg Tooley-11-St. Marys


Yes, that was one of the more difficult rankings until you look at the total body of work.

Dreher is a 3X time state placer (2nd, 3rd, 3rd), while Tooley did not qualify his freshman year and finished 2nd last season.

Both are good wrestlers, but I have to give the edge to Dreher.
Posted By: objective

Re: 3A rankings - 11/22/13 10:51 PM

D west was not going to do that. They have potential in Dunlap but it is a stretch for idol or fee
Posted By: Tyson Schreiner

Re: 3A rankings - 11/22/13 11:53 PM

The "stretch" would be for you to keep some comments to yourself!
Posted By: Travis Phippen

Re: 3A rankings - 11/23/13 12:04 AM

I have to make an argument for Tristan Porsch again at either 106 or 113:

Beat Tate Carney in March who has a win over Nirschl
Pinned Will Spexarth who just finished 4th at kickoff
Beat Eck 5-0 who has wins over Glover, Waller and Spexarth
Beat Jalin Harper who has wins over Elias, Eck and Kester

No matter what weight this kid has some awesome skills and has shown that he can beat top competition.
Posted By: objective

Re: 3A rankings - 11/23/13 01:17 AM


look for Fredonia to be a top ten team
Posted By: objective

Re: 3A rankings - 11/23/13 01:23 AM

Not sure between Tooley and Dreher but I think Tooley missed out his freshman year because of a broken bone didnt he?
Posted By: Chief Renegade

Re: 3A rankings - 11/23/13 02:41 AM

Originally Posted By: Wyatt Bechtel
Originally Posted By: Chief Renegade
Curious about this comparison:

2. Dayton Dreher-12-Oberlin
3. Greg Tooley-11-St. Marys


Yes, that was one of the more difficult rankings until you look at the total body of work.

Dreher is a 3X time state placer (2nd, 3rd, 3rd), while Tooley did not qualify his freshman year and finished 2nd last season.

Both are good wrestlers, but I have to give the edge to Dreher.


Tooley lost a very close match to Brogan Humphrey in the 138 final and Dreher was at 132. I had to go with the defending 138 finalist.
Posted By: Wyatt Bechtel

Re: 3A rankings - 11/23/13 04:18 AM

Originally Posted By: Chief Renegade
Originally Posted By: Wyatt Bechtel
Originally Posted By: Chief Renegade
Curious about this comparison:

2. Dayton Dreher-12-Oberlin
3. Greg Tooley-11-St. Marys


Yes, that was one of the more difficult rankings until you look at the total body of work.

Dreher is a 3X time state placer (2nd, 3rd, 3rd), while Tooley did not qualify his freshman year and finished 2nd last season.

Both are good wrestlers, but I have to give the edge to Dreher.


Tooley lost a very close match to Brogan Humphrey in the 138 final and Dreher was at 132. I had to go with the defending 138 finalist.


Yes, I saw the match and I took note of the score, but if my memory serves me right Humphrey controlled the pace of the match (like he does in many matches) and it never appeared that he was ever in any danger of losing. This has been a bit of a theme for Humphrey's finals matches. He has taken a lead in all three matches and more or less coasted. I'm not saying that is a bad thing, Humphrey is great wrestler who can dictate the pace of a match and it is not a knock on his opponents as all three were very tough. In all three matches he won by a 2 points or less. Tooley had a great state tournament and a great season, he did however lose by fall in the regional finals to James Landoll of Marysville who took 5th at state.

I believe Dreher was at one point leading on his finals opponent John Risewick of Norton in the first period (it was nearly 9 months ago so I may be remembering this wrong). Dreher lost 8 to 7 to Risewick at state. His loss at regionals was to Risewick by a major decision.

Again, I think Tooley and Dreher are very close. Both had wins over currently ranked All-Class wrestlers in Lucas Lovvorn of Holton and Sawyer Like of BVSW, respectively. Both had wins over several state placers last season. Both had losses to very tough wrestlers outside of their classification, Tooley lost to Bryce Shoemaker of Baldwin and Dreher lost to Chase Cole of Chanute along with Geordan Martinez of Pine Creek, CO.

The one thing that really separates them is their body of work prior to last season, and that is where Dreher has a distinctive advantage. It should be an interesting year at this weight, but in the end everyone will be trying to beat Humphrey for the title which has proven to be an arduous task.
Posted By: Wyatt Bechtel

Re: 3A rankings - 11/23/13 04:21 AM

Originally Posted By: Travis Phippen
I have to make an argument for Tristan Porsch again at either 106 or 113:

Beat Tate Carney in March who has a win over Nirschl
Pinned Will Spexarth who just finished 4th at kickoff
Beat Eck 5-0 who has wins over Glover, Waller and Spexarth
Beat Jalin Harper who has wins over Elias, Eck and Kester

No matter what weight this kid has some awesome skills and has shown that he can beat top competition.


Travis, thanks for the info. Once I have an idea of where he is going Porsch is likely going to enter the rankings. I just haven't heard a confirmed weight yet.
Posted By: birddog

Re: 3A rankings - 11/27/13 05:01 PM

Jurgens @ 126 is ranked all class but dosent make 321A, am I seing that right?
Posted By: Wyatt Bechtel

Re: 3A rankings - 11/27/13 05:57 PM

Originally Posted By: birddog
Jurgens @ 126 is ranked all class but dosent make 321A, am I seing that right?


Scott City moved up to 4A this year.
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