Regionals!

2013-14 Wrestling Regional Assignments



CLASS 6A REGIONAL
(February 22)

Gardner-Edgerton High School – Kent Glaser , Regional Manager
Gardner-Edgerton, Kansas City-Wyandotte, Lawrence, Olathe-East, Olathe-North, Olathe-Northwest, Olathe-South, Shawnee Mission-Northwest

Overland Park-Blue Valley High School – Matt Ortman, Regional Manager
Overland Park -Blue Valley, Overland Park-Blue Valley North, Overland Park-Blue Valley Northwest, Overland Park-Blue Valley West, Shawnee Mission-East, Shawnee Mission-North, Shawnee Mission-South, Shawnee Mission-West

Topeka-Washburn Rural High School –, Regional Manager
Derby, Junction City, Lawrence-Free State, Manhattan, Topeka, Topeka-Washburn Rural, Wichita-East, Wichita-Southeast

Wichita-Northwest High School – Tom Perkins & Lance Deckinger, Regional Managers
Dodge City, Garden City, Haysville-Campus, Hutchinson, Maize, Wichita-North, Wichita-Northwest, Wichita-South



CLASS 5A REGIONAL
(February 22)

Leavenworth High School – Shawn Terry, Regional Manager
Emporia, Kansas City-Washington, Lansing, Leavenworth, Tecumseh-Shawnee Heights, Topeka-Highland Park, Topeka-Seaman, Topeka-West

Pittsburg High School – Doug Hitchcock, Regional Manager
Kansas City-JC Harmon, Kansas City-F.L. Schlagle, Kansas City-Turner, Lenexa-Saint James Academy, Overland Park-Blue Valley Southwest, Overland Park-St. Thomas Aquinas, Pittsburg, Shawnee-Mill Valley

Wichita-Heights High School – Rick Wheeler, Regional Manager
Great Bend, Hays, Maize South, Newton, Salina-Central, Salina-South, Valley Center, Wichita-Heights

Wichita-Kapaun Mount Carmel High School – John Heise, Regional Manager
Andover, Arkansas City, Goddard, Goddard-Eisenhower, Liberal, Wichita-Bishop Carroll, Wichita-Kapaun Mount Carmel, Wichita-West



CLASS 4A REGIONAL
(February 21-22)

Burlington High School – Dave Watkins, Regional Manager
Baldwin, Burlington, Chanute, Columbus, Fort Scott, Frontenac, Garnett-Anderson County, Iola, LaCygne-Prairie View, Louisburg, Osawatomie, Ottawa, Paola, Parsons, Santa Fe Trail, Spring Hill

Colby High School – Larry Gabel, Regional Manager
Abilene, Buhler, Chapman, Clay Center Community, Colby, Concordia, Goodland, Hugoton, Larned, Lindsborg-Smoky Valley, McPherson, Nickerson, Russell, Scott Community, Ulysses

Holton High School – Jason Schroeder, Regional Manager
Atchison, Basehor-Linwood, Bonner Springs, De Soto, Eudora, Holton, Hoyt-Royal Valley, Kansas City-Bishop Ward, Kansas City-Piper, Kansas City-Sumner Academy, Meriden-Jefferson West, Perry-Lecompton, Shawnee Mission-Bishop Miege, Tonganoxie, Topeka-Hayden, Wamego

Winfield High School – Billy Tipps, Regional Manager
Altamont-Labette County, Andale, Andover-Central, Augusta, Clearwater, Coffeyville-Field Kindley, El Dorado, Independence, Mulvane, Pratt, Rose Hill, Towanda-Circle, Wellington, Wichita-Trinity Academy, Winfield



CLASS 3-2-1A REGIONAL
(February 21-22)

Douglass High School – Jason Menard, Regional Manager
Burden-Central, Burlingame, Caney Valley, Cherryvale, Cottonwood Falls-Chase County, Council Grove, Douglass, Erie, Eureka, Fredonia, Herington, Hillsboro, Howard-West Elk, Leon-Bluestem, Marion, Mound City-Jayhawk Linn, Osage City, Pleasanton, Richmond-Central Heights, Rosalia-Flinthills, Sedgwick, Whitewater-Remington, Wichita-The Independent

Hoisington High School – Joel Mason, Regional Manager
Anthony/Harper-Chaparral, Belleville-Republic County, Beloit, Beloit-St. Johns, Bennington, Cheney, Ellsworth, Garden Plain, Gypsum-Southeast of Saline, Halstead, Hesston, Hoisington, Langdon-Fairfield, Lincoln, Lyons, Minneapolis, Moundridge, Osborne, Salina-Sacred Heart, Salina-St. John’s Military Academy, Stafford, Sterling, Sylvan-Lucas Unified

Sabetha High School – Scot Burger, Regional Manager
Atchison-Maur Hill Mount Academy, Centralia, Easton-Pleasant Ridge, Effingham-Atchison Co. Comm., Eskridge-Mission Valley, Hiawatha, Highland-Doniphan West, Horton, Leavenworth-Immaculata, Marysville, McLouth, Onaga, Oskaloosa, Riley County, Rossville, Sabetha, Silver Lake, St. George-Rock Creek, St. Marys, Troy, Wabaunsee, Wakefield, Wathena-Riverside, Wellsville

WaKeeney-Trego Community High School – Craig Malsam, Regional Manager
Atwood-Rawlins County, Cimarron, Elkhart, Ellis, Hays-Thomas More Prep-Marian, Hill City, Holcomb, Hoxie, Kensington-Thunder Ridge, Lakin, Leoti-Wichita County, Montezuma-South Gray, Norton Community, Oakley, Oberlin-Decatur Comm., Phillipsburg, Plainville, Smith Center, St. Francis, Stockton, Sublette, Tribune-Greeley County, Wakeeney-Trego Community

Leaving 5A like volleyball would have made more sense. The distribution of wrestlers participating based on last year's regionals is now 86,103,96,106 as it was with the volleyball 95,94,99,103.

Pittsburg hosting back to back regionals is interesting as well.

Seven teams traveling to Pittsburg with hotel rooms is an interesting plan for "regionals".

Could not be more excited to host regionals at Washburn Rural. Been hoping for this one for a while!

Another great decision by KSHAA. It must have taken a very long meeting to come up with such a STUPID idea.

7 teams all withn 20 min of each other and you hold the tournament at the one place that is 2 hours away from those 7 teams. Ding Ding Ding...we have a winner.

Let's all hope the weather is not an issue.

On the positive side......I love me some Chicken Annies.

Did any of those schools put in to host regionals??

Not all schools are interested in hosting a regional. Could conflict with basketball or other school activities. It's not just putting the regional in a place and calling it good. Schools have to show interest and are not forced to host. Maybe people should speak with their administration if they are not happy and have them put in for Regionals in the future.

"It's not just putting the regional in a place and calling it good."

Because that would make to much sense?

Packing up 10 - 14 vans full of kids, hotel costs for 40-50 rooms and very real possibilty that weather could impact getting to the location (HHMMM remember State 2013)seems to me that KSHAA might step in and make a few phone calls and do whats best.

But then agian, that makes to much sense.

B O O H O O Just go and wrestle. Are you preparing the path for the kid or the kid for the path? Looks like your parents did the first. Be a good example and just go wrestle.

Nice assumption Beeson. No crying here. just pointing out the stupid decision made by KSHAA.

Relax

I'm old school.... I come from a home of a High School FB Coach in the 70's and 80's. Back when you could grab a face mask, use a few choice words on the sidelines and not worry about getting called the the principles office the next day when 20 parents complained.

Oooohhhhh The Good Ole Days...could still do it in the early 90's also.

A 2 hour drive is nothing. Pack as sammich and don't forget your blankey and pillow.

Glad to be staying home!! Good luck to all the Wichita teams time to represent.

When it make sense I completely agree with you. In a time when I see nearly EVRY school complain about travel budget it is ridiculous to spend $7000 when you only need to spend $1000 (these are conservative numbers based on estimated travel and lodging costs). Heck, every metro school could pitch in $150 to PHS and call it good. I know for a fact that the PHS AD whined so loudly to KSHSAA because he refused to travel a PHS team to Liberal KS that they moved the game to a neutral site! That seems ironic now that coupled with the fact that they just hosted last year... The process for regional assigning and selection is not understood and doesn't appear to be documented. Many AD's have no idea what the process is and whether or not they should/could apply as they thought they would be contacted by KSHSAA. At the end of the day, why would we expect any decision from Topeka to make sense?? After all it is the same city that Kathy S. (queen of Obamacare) lived in and promoted spending over $100 million to save a town of less than 1,000 people. At this point all we can do is sit back at let KSHSAA reinforce the fact that common sense isn't very common.

We are lucky enough to host this year, but most years, we would be excited to only have to travel 2 hours for regionals. I don't know if it "makes sense" for us to host or not, but I'm sure glad we are!!!

I have been lucky this year as we also hosted the girls' golf regional (the fall sport I coach). Usually I travel 3 hours for Regional golf and then 3+ hours for regional wrestling!

By the way, you wanna talk about a LONG drive to Pittsburg, that is where we went for state golf this last fall. Made state golf a 4-day adventure!

My senior year Liberal played Ft. Scott at Ft. Scott in the 5A state football finals, one of Mark Lentz's most memorable days. That was a road trip as well.

Another issue pointed out is that you increase the opportunity for an auto accident seven times in this scenario. There are at least three schools in this regional that could have hosted. Someone dropped the ball and since it is a KSHSAA event it is a no brainer to point your finger in that direction.

What seem frustrating no matter the travel it appears, that many schools get repeat Regionals when I know for a fact there have been several trying for years that keep getting passed by.

Is it totaly making me piss fire madd, no but it is frustrating. Having a Regional does several thing for the community and surrounding areas along with a chance for the kids club to throw in some support and maybe earn some extra money.

Like Will said having a cycle or a comittee that picks the Regional makes way to much sense for KSHAA.

Ricky your missing the point. In most cases a team or Teams might have to travel. That is not the issue. Traveling in sports has to happen. This wasn't any issue of 4 or 5 teams having to travel or even 2 out of the 8. 7 of the 8 teams are within 15-20 min of each other. Pittsburg is the only team that would have to travel over 20 min.

This is a no brainer...

As I recall after regional were assigned last year, they made a change to a different venue.

What are the chances we get it moved back to a more central location this year?

Pittsburg had to travel North for Volleyball. I am sure they will have to go North for Golf (Boys and Girls), Basketball (Boys and Girls), Baseball, Softball, Track, Soccer, and some sports I am leaving out. Do you think it is right that the Northern schools come to them at least once?? It isn't like a 5a regional is 2days or anything. 14 weight classes with 5 to 8 kids in each wrestling only out to top 4 places......can be done in 5 hours or so. Start at 9:00 and done at 3:00.

Usually we start this conversation with how weak one regional is over another.

everyone has to drive sometime.

I wonder if all of those schools budgeted an extra $2000 to make that trip? I would also think that their gate take will greatly suffer.

Really??? Are you guys going to sit here and cry about your Regional assignments? Go wrestle! I saw several of these teams at the Kickoff Classic in Tulsa at the beginning of the month before the season. At least three of these kids made it all the way down to The Oklahoma Open just last weekend during season. Every year Will Cokeley and Chief get on here and complain about the travel restrictions and how unfair it is that they cant drive to attend The Beast in the East or Blah Blah Blah....and NOW you want to bitch and moan about a 2 hour trip to Pittsburg? Give me a break. No matter what happens some are always going to WHINE WHINE WHINE.

Now I see why they say common sense isn't very common...

Remember once when we were 4A we were sent 4 hrs away twice. Once we had a HWT in the finals and got home on Sunday morning at 4am.
We are 2.25 hrs away this year...much better! You City folk have to realize that Kansas is larger the 20 mi radius of KC.

Common sense? If chief is correct and says these metro schools will have to pony up $2000 for this one day trip to Pittsburg for regionals, then let's think what Pittsburg has to do for regionals in volleyball, basketball (boys and girls), baseball, softball, cross country, golf (boys and girls), tennis, debate, forensics,scholar bowl, etc. I listed 12 activities and I am sure there are more.

I have never seen or heard Pittsburg people on forum complaining about driving 2 hours to a regional. The complaint used to be that KSHSAA restricts traveling too much and now the complaint is KSHSAA makes you travel too much.

Some people just complain way too much. Pitt will run a great tournament!

Good Luck to all!

In 1994, as a Proud Greenback in Pratt, Ks we traveled to Ulysses for Regionals, when the speed limit was 55mph. I have driven all over this state as a wrestling coach for Regionals, I was in Pittsburgh last year and they run a GREAT regional. It will NEVER be easy and in 321-A the state sends teams to places where there are not even a motel in the town, so you have to travel. In the last 4 years we have driven back each night of regionals and driven back the next day. How bout promoting the positive side of our sport....you catch more flies with honey than you do with vinegar

Coach Brown,

1. No one said Pittsburg would not run a good regional. I have competed and attend MANY wrestling tournaments in Pittsburg over the years. They do a wonderful job with great facilities for the wrestlers and fans.

2. Yes I am sure EVERYONE in the state has had to drive at least two hours for a tournament / Regionals / State. When you are dealing with smaller schools that are more spread out youwil always have that issue.

This topic was not started in anyway to knock Kansas Wrestling or Wrestlers or knock Pittsburg ability to host a wonderful regional.

It was to point out that in this situation, it does not appear that KSHAA was looking out for the best interest of the majority of schools, student atheletes or fans when they made the decision to host a 8 team regional in a location that makes 7 teams travel 2 hours, spend additional dollars for room and board and could be a safety issue if weather comes into play.

Take off your "my teams has to travel back and fourth hat" and look at the FACTS.

Not trying to catch any flies or trying to sway anyone one way or another. Just doing what this forum was made for, having a healthy conversation aboout "things" that are happening in Kansas Wrestling.

Ok...Here are some FACTS. St James and St. Thomas Aquinas CAN NOT host regionals because the head of the Catholic Church in the area is afraid a GIRL may or may not wrestle in the regional. That leaves 5 other schools that are able to host the regional. Did any of those other schools put in to host a regional or is Pittsburg the only school that volunteered? If Pittsburg was the only one to put in they should get the bid. If all 5 schools put in then the regional should rotate to a different school each year. This means every 5 years Pittsburg will get the regional. Don't complain about the regional assignment if your school did not try to be part of it.

Beeson,

Sorry you can't state "here are some facts" if all your sentences start with DID any and IF.

Can anyone confirm this is correct? Was not aware of this restriction. thanks

"St James and St. Thomas Aquinas CAN NOT host regionals because the head of the Catholic Church in the area is afraid a GIRL may or may not wrestle in the regional."

Room? Why would you get a room for a 1 day tournament that is only 2 hours away?

Board? Most schools have the food situations set up with parents/boosters (sandwich items, fruit, etc.).

My assumption (and past experience) would tell me they would drive down the nite before. If not you are waking up your kids at 5 a.m..

Weigh in 5:15
Eat Breakfast 5;30
Leave for Pittsburg 6:00 am
Arrive in Pittsburg 8:00
Change / warm up and ready to wrestle by 9.

Can it be done without an overnight stay. YES
Do I think a kid can perform at his best. No

We can agree to disagree. Thats ok.

Eight Sentences. Three were factual, One was a question, Two were statements, and Two were opinions.

"Some Facts" would be justified with three facts.

In your past experience you would know you have to weigh-in on site because it is regionals. There are no home weigh-ins in a 1 day regional.

It has been explained to me that Johnson County schools never travel without a hospitality room and their personal chef. Thus the need for a hotel.

"It has been explained to me that Johnson County schools never travel without a hospitality room and their personal chef. Thus the need for a hotel."

Dont be a Hater.....

"In your past experience you would know you have to weigh-in on site because it is regionals. There are no home weigh-ins in a 1 day regional."

Got me....I was wrong.

I have been doing some more research.

1)Pittsburg will have three mats and wrestling starts at 10:30.

2)Weigh in will be allowed till 8:30. That means you can leave by 6:00 am and make the two hour drive in time to make weigh in.

3)The tournament should be over by 9:00 putting you home around 11:00.

4)I see no reason for any of the schools to have to get a hotel and stay overnight. I see no added expense to any of the schools attending this Regional.

Beeson, can you find out what time Chicken Annies closes on Sat night?

9:00 PM

Tuesday through Friday 4:00-8:30 pm

Saturday 4:00-9:00 pm

Sunday 11:00 am to 8:00 pm

Closed Mondays

I understand what everyone is saying about the traveling and I did not think you were knocking Kansas wrestling or Pittsburgh. I was just weighing in on the post. It is very hard to find a place that makes everyone happy.
I really wanted to host a Regional when I was at Sabetha, after they got a new gym, but to be honest there is no where in Sabetha for more than 2 teams to stay. The hotels in Seneca and Hiawatha will be full this year with a Regional there.
I am very happy with my teams Regional site, Burlington is only 40 minutes away! I did not mean to step on any toes.

1. Yes I can confirm.
2. No we will not be waking up our wrestlers at 4am to scramble to the bus and leave by 5am or 5:30 (it would be ill advised to leave at 6am for an 8:30am weigh in deadline).
3. I know at least two schools have already made their reservations. After shopping around we wound up with a total cost of $1,000 for our rooms.
4. This has never been an issue with Pittsburg's ability to host or run a tournament but more about transparency and fiscal responsibility. If you have the option to only have ONE team travel instead of SEVEN it would make the most common sense to explore those options. Each of the seven schools could share the cost for Pittsburg's travel with all schools being in a better financial position with that solution. The gate revenue will suffer as more fans, parents, and supporters would attend if they only had to travel 20 miles instead of 120 miles.

Apparently the process is triggered by a form distributed by KSHSAA in the spring of the previous school year. Of course this offer plenty of issues: Will the AD be returning? Will the wresting coach be returning? Did the AD and/or Coach know that the form had to be completed for an event to be held almost a year later? Does the school know what classification they will be in? Does the school know what their basketball or activity calendar will look like 10 months in advance? No one knows how the regionals will be grouped as this seems to be some top secret decision by KSHSAA. No one I have talked to has any idea how this is done and most didn't know that a form had to be completed in the spring. In many cases KSHSAA contacts schools to see if they are willing to host or at least this has been the past practice. I think uncertainty and a failure to educate has created a situation that unfortunately doesn't make common sense nor is fiscally responsible.

I know Doug and Scott will do a good job but that doesn't make it the right decision.

Whoops add another FACT to why this is a bad idea.

People traveling from KC will not have time to stop at Chicken Annies on the way home.

Thanks Beeson for the info.

The only legitimate question to be asked and answered in this thread is........

Chicken Annie's OR Chicken Mary's???

Guess its just all how you look at life. If I were to be put in this horrible situation My thoughts would be more along the lines of........Cool, a LESS than 2 hour drive down one of the best roads in Kansas, good facilities, in a really cool town, what a way to spend a Saturday.

But I would have to go with Saturday night at Barto's. Chickens awesome and you can get your polka fix all at the same time. Annies and Marys is more of a Sunday thing.

The more I think about this the more I feel disenfranchized. Last years MORE than 2 hour trip to Garden Plain. Then have to turn around and drive the 2nd day to wrestle a kid that lives less than 15 minutes from my house. Those two could have just met in the corn field west of Bennington and saved both of us over 200 miles of travel. WOW... what was the KSHSAA thinken!

And where the H... are the hotels in Garden Plain anyway?

But hey, this years trip to Hoisington down one of the worst roads in Kansas should be a cake walk. Im sure the down town Hilton will be a lot of fun for the kids.

Won't the little guys on the dasher board on trackwrestling settle it. The tournament is pre-seeded - isn't the electronic age great. No need for travel.

The kids are there to wrestle not sight see? There is never any time for that at a tournament is there?

Kansas All Class Chicken Ranking:

1. Barto's
2. Chicken Annies
3. Chicken Mary
4. Strouds
5. Anthonys

3 piece White, German Potato Salad, Cole Slaw.....Order of Onions rings before.

Could you throw Jim's Chicken (Salina) as a "Honorable Mention"?

Did Chief approve these rankings?

Sorry D.W.....this is the Kansas Wrestling Forum page. Competitors in Western Kansas don't get ranked.


Note - To all you angery forum page followers. This was a Joke, Sarcasim and meant to be funny.

Al's Chickenette in Hays Not sure if it is open, but should be in the mix

No, Chief nor Will approved theses rankings. Just Wondering, just to let you know, Chief and Will have eaten all over this country, and sometimes internationally. They have forgotten more about food than you will ever know. For you to come on here and rank food without approval from either of them, shows your ignorance of this forum. lol

The Chicken House in Olpe, KS. Its really good!!!

Sorry everyone the Chicken rankings have voted on by the coaches and taken over by the KCCEA (Kansas Coaches Chicken Eating Asscociation.

They won't leave out Brookville Hotel.

Not Fair. The Chicken House in Olpe is under PRIVATE Ownership. I hear they recruit the best chickens from all over the state.

Hey, I resemble that remark.

You beat me to this.

Yes Al's is open again after a short closure. We also have JD's chicken. I think Hays could be in the running for the best chicken places, but it will be hard to beat Chicken Annie's, we have to hit Chicken Annie's when we go back to visit family.

As far as the regional assignments go, I say just go wrestle and leave the drama out of where it is being held at. This is just my opinion.

Tyson is correct. I won't approve this list because it doesn't include Brookville now in Abilene.

By the way, I did have chicken in Bejing, it is served with the eyes, beak, and feet still intact.

I forgot about Brookville I may have to say it could be the best. I have had the chicken with all the beak feet head etc... As well, it was weird, but also very tasty.

got to include Brookville on the list; with their cream corn and mashed potatoes!

You can get on Amazon and order it and have a DRONE deliver it from these chicken establishments - no need to travel.


Kansas All Class Chicken Ranking:

1. Barto's
2. Chicken Annies
2. Gebhardts
3. Chicken Mary
4. Strouds
5. Anthonys

3 piece White, German Potato Salad, Cole Slaw.....Order of Onions rings before.

Smokey - you gotta squeeze Gebhardts in there. It's a little less known than the other 3 SEK places, but just as good, with better sides.

As for the poor Metro people and schools that have to drive, and all Cokeley's whining, Beeson's "back in my day", blah, blah, blah..... still an entertaining read.

I missed you guys.

Gebhardts jumps into a tie with Chicken Annies because it had criteria over Chicken Mary's at the Gobbler Nationals.

You can get on Amazon and order it and have a DRONE deliver it from these chicken establishments - no need to travel.


Kansas All Class Chicken Ranking:

1. Barto's
2. Chicken Annies
2. Gebhardts
3. Chicken Mary
4. Strouds
5. Anthonys

3 piece White, German Potato Salad, Cole Slaw.....Order of Onions rings before.