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I need Pre-Season ranking info...

Posted By: Chief Renegade

I need Pre-Season ranking info... - 09/02/14 02:26 PM

My goal is to release the 2014-15 Pre-Season All-Class rankings on SEPTEMBER 26th!

Please send me your anticipated weights for wrestlers to be considered for All-Class as well as Class rankings.

eric.johnson@opco.com
913-484-3624 - Cell

Thank you!

- Chief
Posted By: Beeson

Re: I need Pre-Season ranking info... - 09/02/14 03:37 PM

SEPTEMBER 26??? That's a full two months before the season starts. Nothing like getting a jump on the season and changing the rankings over 100 times before they even step on the mat.
Posted By: Spexy

Re: I need Pre-Season ranking info... - 09/03/14 01:50 AM

Get to it Chief. Welcome to high school Chad. Why the sarcasm? It will change weekly. Least someone follows EVERY class of wrestler throughout the year. Kudos CHIEF!!!
Posted By: sportsfan02

Re: I need Pre-Season ranking info... - 09/03/14 10:38 AM

Originally Posted By: Spexy
Why the sarcasm?

I don't think that is sarcasm.

Originally Posted By: Spexy
It will change hourly.

There, fixed it for you.
Posted By: Chief Renegade

Re: I need Pre-Season ranking info... - 09/03/14 01:47 PM

Originally Posted By: Beeson
SEPTEMBER 26??? That's a full two months before the season starts. Nothing like getting a jump on the season and changing the rankings over 100 times before they even step on the mat.


"Pre-season" rankings necessitate that they be released prior to the start of the season. In order to increase perspicuity, I will attempt to list the wrestlers at their closest anticipated weight class.
Posted By: RichardDSalyer

Re: I need Pre-Season ranking info... - 09/03/14 07:11 PM

Originally Posted By: Chief Renegade
Originally Posted By: Beeson
SEPTEMBER 26??? That's a full two months before the season starts. Nothing like getting a jump on the season and changing the rankings over 100 times before they even step on the mat.


"Pre-season" rankings necessitate that they be released prior to the start of the season. In order to increase perspicuity, I will attempt to list the wrestlers at their closest anticipated weight class.
Your arrogance has never been more perspicuous.

As in most all wrestling matters I find myself once again siding with my friend Chad Beeson. Inasmuch as KSHSAA organized practice sessions shall not begin prior to November 17, 2014 and the first date of competition shall not be prior December 01, 2014, a request on or about November 01, 2014 should allow sufficient time to assimilate all relevant information to accomplish the goal of providing lucid pre-season rankings.
Posted By: hotrodder54

Re: I need Pre-Season ranking info... - 09/03/14 07:39 PM

We shouldn't need a dictionary to read this talk forum... And I'm sure most of us could say not with certainty but dam close to it, what weight our boys will be at this year.
Posted By: sportsfan02

Re: I need Pre-Season ranking info... - 09/03/14 08:39 PM

Originally Posted By: hotrodder54
We shouldn't need a dictionary to read this talk forum...

I knew buying him that thesaurus for Xmas last year was a bad idea! I apologize to the board for my error.
Posted By: Beeson

Re: I need Pre-Season ranking info... - 09/03/14 08:39 PM

Originally Posted By: Spexy
Welcome to high school Chad. Why the sarcasm?


If High School is more about guessing and talking I won't be Welcomed for long. There was no Sarcasm in my comments, Rankings should be done monthly not daily. Done so early they aren't even close. Look at last years first Rankings compared to the final rankings...Day/Night.
Posted By: Chief Renegade

Re: I need Pre-Season ranking info... - 09/03/14 09:56 PM

Originally Posted By: Beeson
Originally Posted By: Spexy
Welcome to high school Chad. Why the sarcasm?


If High School is more about guessing and talking I won't be Welcomed for long. There was no Sarcasm in my comments, Rankings should be done monthly not daily. Done so early they aren't even close. Look at last years first Rankings compared to the final rankings...Day/Night.


Ah lighten up buddy. I took a vote and it was 147-2 (You and Rich) in favor of the pre-season release and weight class projection. wink
Posted By: Beeson

Re: I need Pre-Season ranking info... - 09/03/14 11:02 PM

Football Rankings will change less during the entire football season than the Wrestling Rankings will change during the entire football season. whistle

I can honestly say that Ark City has very little to no idea where everyone will be during the season. Definitely not enough of an idea to base rankings on. I would say 1/2 of the teams in the state are in the same boat...making the rankings moot until December.

Chief, you know I have to give you a hard time about the rankings. Why would I stop just because Jake is in High School now? They definitely have a place during the season, but they keep coming out sooner and sooner each year. I'm expecting them to come out March 1st by the time Jake is a Senior.
Posted By: Spexy

Re: I need Pre-Season ranking info... - 09/03/14 11:10 PM

If you go back to last year, yes it changed, monthly,( after season started) but what I've seen is pre-season rankings are pretty darn close. Yes it's a guessing game on who will be a what weight. Team rankings changed a lot. Individual rankings were pretty close, with in the top 6. Everyone out there knows, their coach will put there wrestler in the best spot, for the benefit of the team and wrestler. Chiefs predictions are just that, predictions. Once ALL the kids step on the mat in December, all bets are off. Don't get your panties in a wad over it. But it is kinda cool to see what Chief thinks.
Posted By: Beeson

Re: I need Pre-Season ranking info... - 09/03/14 11:55 PM

Anyone that has ever been out on a drunken binge with me knows I don't wear underwear...let alone panties. wink Check those preseason rankings...not even close except for St. James, but we know Chief will ALWAYS have them towards the top. grin grin wink
Posted By: Beeson

Re: I need Pre-Season ranking info... - 09/04/14 12:02 AM

TEAM RANKINGS:
1. St. James Academy - 5A
2. Garden City - 6A
3. Gardner Edgerton - 6A
4. St. Thomas Aquinas - 5A
5. Arkansas City - 5A
6. Wichita Northwest - 6A
7. Holton - 4A
8. Derby - 6A
9. Norton - 321A
10t. Junction City - 6A
10t. Wichita Heights - 6A
Posted By: Beeson

Re: I need Pre-Season ranking info... - 09/04/14 12:03 AM

TEAM RANKINGS:

1. St. James Academy - 5A
2. Garden City - 6A
3. Goddard - 5A
4. Junction City - 6A
5. Derby - 6A
6. Kapaun Mt. Carmel - 5A
7. Holton - 4A
8. Blue Valley Northwest - 6A
9. Wichita Northwest - 6A
10. Arkansas City - 5A


Doesn't look pretty close to me.
Posted By: Spexy

Re: I need Pre-Season ranking info... - 09/04/14 12:07 AM

Been with you for YEARS Chad. TMI, just busting some balls. Give it a chance, might surprise you. It all comes round December 1st. Kinda keeps us all looking.
Posted By: Chief Renegade

Re: I need Pre-Season ranking info... - 09/04/14 11:28 AM

That's 7 out of 10. That's kinda close.
Posted By: Chief Renegade

Re: I need Pre-Season ranking info... - 09/04/14 11:30 AM

Originally Posted By: Beeson
Chief, you know I have to give you a hard time about the rankings. They definitely have a place during the season, but they keep coming out sooner and sooner each year. I'm expecting them to come out March 1st by the time Jake is a Senior.


They were out the same time last year...
Posted By: JCook

Re: I need Pre-Season ranking info... - 09/04/14 12:44 PM


Damn!! Activity on the talk forum, wrestling season must be close!!!
Posted By: Chief Renegade

Re: I need Pre-Season ranking info... - 09/10/14 02:53 PM

Early information is showing that we have 12-15 really tough teams in Kansas! This is the deepest Top 10 that I have seen in 3-4 years. Depending on the classification news, 6A will be a dogfight!
Posted By: Chief Renegade

Re: I need Pre-Season ranking info... - 09/15/14 11:21 AM

106 is looking REALLY tough, especially in 5A.

You gotta love our incoming freshmen!
Posted By: Chief Renegade

Re: I need Pre-Season ranking info... - 09/23/14 03:17 PM

The classification release is scheduled for Monday, but may release on Friday.

I will wait for that release to post the pre-season All-Class rankings.
Posted By: Beeson

Re: I need Pre-Season ranking info... - 09/23/14 04:04 PM

How can you release classification rankings before the classifications come out?
Posted By: Chief Renegade

Re: I need Pre-Season ranking info... - 09/23/14 05:34 PM

Originally Posted By: Beeson
How can you release classification rankings before the classifications come out?


They are All-Class rankings, but each wrestler that I list will include their grade and class.

The KWCA Class ranking schedule is tentatively:

November 4th - 1st pre-season release after the KWCA meeting.
November 25th - 2nd pre-season release appx. one week after practice starts.
December 9th - 1st ranking release after opening weekend.
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