Let me get this straight. Once and for all.

If I have a wrestler that weighs in the day before the first practice, hydrated, at 140.4- the lowest weight class he could wrestle is 135? 2 Weight class drop is the limit? Or is the 2 weight drop loss not until you make weight hydratedd?

Thank you!

You are correct. Weighing 140.4 Alpha would be 145lber. Two weight class drop would be 135 without doctor's note.

I guess I don't fully understand the rules then. I thought if your Alpha weight was 140.4 then you could lose 8% putting you at 129 making you eligible to wrestle 130.

I believe it is the SMALLER of 8% OR two weight classes. To wrestle 130, you would have to alpa weigh at 139.9 or less.

The rule is both limits apply. You can't lose more than 8% as well as you can't drop more than 2 weight classes. To wrestle 130 I believe your alpha weight would have to be 140. Weighing 140 would make you eligible to wrestle 140. 130 is two classes below 140 and 92% of 140 is 128.8.

Yes, but if you take, say 141 x .08 (8%), it gives you 11.28.

Put down your crayons... 141 minus 11.28 gives you 129.72.

This is from a guy who flunked math back in '86.

But isn't that logic correct?

Coach your logic is correct but you must apply both tests. If you alpha weight 141 you would have to compete as a 145lber. Two weight classes below 145 is 135 not 130.

I know it is confusing. It only affects a few of the weight classes.

As was stated by Coach Means, your math is correct. However, the 8% calculation is a LARGER drop in weight than 2 weight classes. Therefore, two weight classes (140 and 135)is the downside limit.

They made a mistake in the rules meeting and on the hand out when it said that a Wrestler Could lose 8% of their alpha weight (OR) be within two weight classes. That means in mathimatical terms that it could be one or the other (union of the two). However after Mr. Bowden explained it futher he stated that it was which ever was less. They printed it wrong the rule should have read: Wrestler may lose 8% of their alpha weight (AND) be within Two weight classes meaning an Intersection of the two(what they have in common).

but can't you get down to that weight you want to wrestle and go to a doctor to see if he will clear you to wrestle at that weight?

I don't have to worry about all this junk cause I piss excellence.

Yes if you want to go below the 8% and the two weight limit. You have to reach the lowest possible weight (8% or 2 weights) go to the doctor at that weight have the doctor sign the form so you can lose the remaining weight you desire

Example you weigh 140.6 you are a 145 lber. meaning you can only go down two weight classes 140 is the frist 135 would be two. Can't go to 130 with out note. Once you weigh 135(because that is your limit) you then go to the doctor weighing 135 get a note to lose the remaining 5 lbs.

Matt,

I thought that you had to get close to the lower weight class before getting the doctor's note. This lets the doctor evaluate whether the lower weight is medically appropriate for the wrestler. In your example, I think you're suppose to wait until you nearly reach 130 lbs before obtaining the doctor's note.

After asking the same question to other Coaches, I discovered you were all correct! To a T!

BUT- You may get down to the weight class you are certified for, and then get a doctors note to drop a weight class. The reason being, you don't want to SEE IF you can drop another weight class. Better to wait and check with the doctor to see if it is possible- THEN he will release you to do so!

YES,
If you get a doctor's note stating that it is still healthy for you to pull the weight down to the next weight class it is still legal. But you have to have the doctors note.