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Most dual wins by team in season #118328 02/09/08 06:17 PM
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The members of this forum provide a wealth of information about high school wrestling and I would like to tap that resource. Can anyone tell me the most dual wins a Kansas HS team has ever recorded in a season, regardless of class? Valley Center just completed a 31-3 dual season and I was wondering if any team had ever done better. Thanks.

Re: Most dual wins by team in season [Re: Rasslin Riter] #118336 02/09/08 09:08 PM
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Regarding the best dual record. Would it be better to wrestle for a school that wrestled duals or attend many tournaments/dual tournaments(the 6 team variety) to get the most matches out of your KSHAA points?

Re: Most dual wins by team in season [Re: jeffroberts] #118337 02/09/08 09:42 PM
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Baldwin High school goes to a mix of dual tournaments and regular tournaments plus a few duals mixed in during the week, and they seem to be getting close to 50 matches each year including state and regional matches.

Re: Most dual wins by team in season [Re: Callahan'99] #118339 02/09/08 10:29 PM
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The KSHSAA allows each wrestler 30 competition points. For a single dual it is one point, for a multi dual event in one day it is 2 points, for a one day tournament it is 3 points and a two day tournament is 4 points. I am not sure what constitutes a multi dual event (2, 3, 4, or 5 or if it is limited) other than the five match per day limit is always in effect. I believe to maximize the total number of matches for an individual it would be best to go to seven two day events getting five matches each day and then one 2 point dual event. I believe you could use this same concept by entering 2 day dual tournaments to rack up a large number of duals.


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Re: Most dual wins by team in season [Re: Callahan'99] #118340 02/09/08 10:29 PM
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Theoretically you could amass 70 plus matches but I don't believe anyone has ever recorded even 50 wins in a season in Kansas.

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Re: Most dual wins by team in season [Re: Cokeley] #118341 02/09/08 10:38 PM
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Here is a link to KS state wrestling records. The season wins record is currently 46 by four wrestlers. Anybody have a chance to break that this year?

http://www.holton.k12.ks.us/tech/kwca

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I appreciate the information and commentary. However, I don't think anyone answered my question -- what Kansas HS team has recorded the most team dual wins in a season? I wasn't asking about individual wins nor about KSHSAA points. Hope this clarifies the question. Thanks for your help.

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[quote=Kit Harris]Here is a link to KS state wrestling records. The season wins record is currently 46 by four wrestlers. Anybody have a chance to break that this year?

Chase Nitcher of Valley Center is currently 40-1.

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I do not know of anywhere a record for dual wins is recorded officially. However, I have never heard of a team coming close to that many dual wins in a season. I would bet that would be a record, but can't say officially.

Congrats Coach Shelton and VC team!

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Chase could win 48 if he wins out. Is BC in VC's regional?


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Yes


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Re: Most dual wins by team in season [Re: Cokeley] #118399 02/10/08 02:18 PM
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 Originally Posted By: Cokeley
Is BC in VC's regional?


5A Regional at Valley Center High School
Arkansas City
Emporia
Pittsburg
Valley Center
Wichita-Carroll
Wichita-Kapaun Mt. Carmel
Wichita-West
Winfield


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Re: Most dual wins by team in season [Re: RichardDSalyer] #118400 02/10/08 02:27 PM
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I think if Chase won out he would only have 47- 3 at regionals and 4 at the state tournament

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I'm pretty sure that the Augusta team has not lost a dual in over a year-and-a-half. Not sure how that compares to other teams....

Re: Most dual wins by team in season [Re: ksdave] #118451 02/10/08 09:35 PM
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he could still win out and be 46-3 depending if he gets a first round match at regionals, do all these teams at his regional have a 119lb wrestler?

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I know Colby is undeafeated in duals and beat Valley Center 45-15 at the Colby dual tournament. I doubt that Colby wrestled 34 duals.

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 Originally Posted By: markrat
I know Colby is undeafeated in duals and beat Valley Center 45-15 at the Colby dual tournament. I doubt that Colby wrestled 34 duals.



You are correct on both statements. Colby went 16-0 in duals this season.

The results were as follows:

Burlington, Co. 62-3
St. Francis 61-12
Hays 80-0
Oberlin 64-6
Shawnee Heights 51-9
Concordia 70-0
Phillipsburg 72-0
Garden CIty 50-18
Valley Center 45-15
Oakley 60-10
Hoxie 63-0
Oberlin 71-3
Garden City 42-26


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Over the last 3years, I believe Colby is 45-3 with thier losses being against Goddard,Valley Center and Garden City.


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Dual wins are really irrelevant. Teams and wrestlers get wins when the other team has an open weight. You shouldnt get a win unless you wrestle someone, unless it is a tourney and the guy has an injury. I think they are glorified practices. Colby's results in duals prove it. I mean only one of those duals was relatively close. Anytime the other team gets outscored 80-0, that defines practice to me. Now i am not trashing the Colby program or anything like that, i am just trashing duals. I think the fact that there is not state records on dual wins in a season also proves my point. Tourney results are more telling of your team than duals.

just my opinion.

Re: Most dual wins by team in season [Re: Cokeley] #118610 02/11/08 11:49 PM
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wow, valley center is 31-3, very impressive. pretty amazing that concordia held them to I believe 12 points at the concordia quad. There were a few matches that could of went either way. Concordia doesnt have heavies or else valley centers record would be 30-4. great dual.

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