That will only cause more parents to cut it close on weight and more misses and more bracket changes. Bottomline, all kids have to pay for the sins of the parent.

John,

Iam all for that if we only have a fri. night weight-in and a seeding meeting Sat. before wrestling starts and the kids are locked in at that weight for Districts and State. If they dont make that same weight at districts and state then their out.

as far as kids not making weight and not getting to wrestle who's fault is that. it's not rocket science, you know what you weigh you know what you enter, plain and simple make weight or no wrestle. or enter another weight class that you can make weight. people are going to want to give and give tell there is nothing for theses children to work for.

HARD WORK PAYS OFF. NOT JUST LET ME IN.

why not let them in at sub's disticts and state, weve been telling them it's okay all season if you don't make weight now your going to punish them for it at these 3 tournaments. sounds funny to me.

you have me going on this post lol. whats next? in school kids are required to maintain a certain gpa to play sports. now what does that do, it rewards those kids who study, and hopefully makes a kids study harder who wants to play to get his gpa up. now i know thats not fair why not let a kid with all f's play. well because it helps them setting a goal. AND HARD WORK.

Nix,

As much as I agree with you I have to ask. By sticking to our guns are we doing what is best for promoting our sport? I question if we don't make some concessions and try to allow the casual wrestler to grow into a knowledgable and more experienced wrestler will they stick with our great sport. Just asaking questions and looking for ways to make our sport better.

jess i do aggree with you, a kid that wants to wrestle should be able to, but by allowing to adjust his weight at weighins they know they could slack. and i like the way your trying to improve our great sport, and i am not saying your opinion is wrong, i am just stating mine making weight is hard, but it is rewarding, where is the rewqrd for a kid who takes it easy. i hate seeing an empty bracket, but the kids in it did work hard to get there.

you know years ago when beeson and my cousins and all the others wrestled, and yes that was years ago, they were great state champs. why because they worked hard they did not have video games. and all the stuff these kids have today, nothing was given to them they earned it. like i said i just believe it will send the wrong message to kids. HARD WORK WILL PAY OFF IN THE END I PROMISE. I USED TO HAVE A MOTTO HARD WORK NEVER KILLED ANY ONE BUT WHY TAKE THE CHANCE. AND THAT MADE ME LAZY I BELIEVE HARD WORK WILL PAY OFF.

Thanks Nix,

I enjoyed this topic and I agree with you whole-heartedly. I will continue to seek out ways to improve our sport as I hope you will too. Have to get to practice. Thanks again.

Jess Keith

yes jess i enjoyed it as well and yes i will always look for ways to improve the sport. hopefully i will be around for a long time to come, sorry to disapoint those who want me gone NOW lol

I like how you think Nix! I have said that for years! In everything they do, people are trying to make it easier for kids. It seems that they don't ever have to work hard to get to their goals anymore. In a lot of little league sports, they ALL get trophies, win or lose. No one wants to give little Johnnie a complex because he didn't get a "prize" (even though he didn't make ANY effort). When schools had outcome base grading system, the kids were allowed to take tests over and over until they passed. Sorry, but if you didn't study and you failed the test, that's your grade. And if you don't make weight, you don't wrestle. That sounds harsh, but as adults, they are going to find out, life doesn't always come easy.

is there anyone who knows how the vulgamore kid did from scott city in the 55 pound class at ottawa. Its off the subject but looking for a reply.

your right on mighty'smom. not just in wrestling, look how kids are growing up, 10 years ago you did not hear of a school shooting, or the problem we have with todays youth, why is that i say because now days everything is handed to them on a silver platter, everything is given to them. why not make a kid work hard for the goals they have set, it will help them to grow up and work hard in life.

i am not kidding about this either my kids were perfect angels i mean that, and the more i bought them or gave in that started to change them into bratz. over the last year that has changed they work hard and do chores for what they want, and it has help with there attitude 100 percent.

even if they do change the weighin, if my kid fails to make weight that is my fault as well as his. and we would scratch from that tournament because we don't want no give me's they will earn it all the way.

not sure how vulgamore done i believe my wife said he did not place. i will find out for sure and let you know.

thank you. we are going to topeka friday. getting a little nervous we are driving from goodland and there doesnt seem to be many kids entered yet. 55 pound class has 10 so far.

This a qualifying tournament for the state tournament. Everybody has had 3 months (10 to 12 open tournaments that are not a state qualifier) to figure out where their child might fit. Scales have also been available every practice and at every tournament for almost everyone. I guess I just do not understand people who do not undertsand weigh-ins and procedures. This is not novice it is the open division with typically 3 or more years of experience coming into subdistricts. Last year at subdistrict weigh-ins a high school kid came in 10 minutes before the scales closed (this was the first time he weighed either day) and he was 10 pounds over his signed up weight. He asked us if he could go to the bathroom - he was dead serious. We said sure and he did go to the bathroom and came back to check his weight. Guess what he did not make weight - 155 ounces over.

glad to see the kid lost 5 ounce's givem credit he tried. but there is a big diffrence between 155 ounce's over and 1 or 2 ounce's over. all that says for that kid is he did not try at all to make weight, as for me we are always on weight, this topic came up yesterday so i figured i would make a post on it.

Here is my opinion on the matter:

At the coaches meetings at novice tournaments at the beginning of the year the referee always asks, "ok, coaches, do you want to give a warning on locked hands before giving a point?"

As the year progresses, the refs always say, "at this point in the year we should all know that you can't lock your hands, so we'll be awarding a point following the first locked hands."

Here's my point: making exact weight is a part of the sport. It's in the rule book. We don't allow "just a little bit of a full nelson" or let wrestling continue if there's a headlock that's "just barely illegal."

By the time you get to sub-districts, everyone should know the drill. Every sub-district has a certified scale. I am of the opinion that if you don't make weight, you don't wrestle, end of story.

where have you been watching wrestling at if your under the impression they do not allow wrestling to continue if the is a headlock i do not believe i have seen 1 wrestling match stopped due to a headlock, so there must be leway somewhere i would assume, and i am sure a thousand other people on here have seen the same thing.

I agree that there should be a zero tolerence policy at weigh-ins. People also need to under stand that .2 is not 2oz but 2tenths which is almost a 1/4 pound.