Wrestling Talk Forums supported
USA Wrestling-Kansas KWCA Wrestling Talk Forums supported & maintained by USA Wrestling-Kansas USAW USA Wrestling-Kansas 
Previous Thread
Next Thread
Print Thread
Can someone explain the HS match count limit? #133039 12/05/08 08:21 PM
Joined: Nov 2002
Posts: 144
bullwrestler Offline OP
Member
OP Offline
Member
Joined: Nov 2002
Posts: 144
What is the season limit? 40? Do forfiet/open wts taken count?
Does every match count or are is the a max for a tounrament?
How does that work? Do JV matches count against the season total? Is there a weekly match max?
Any info would be appreciated.

Thanks!


Re: Can someone explain the HS match count limit? [Re: bullwrestler] #133041 12/05/08 08:31 PM
Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 155
MAS Offline
Member
Offline
Member
Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 155
No Season Match count. Kansas bases participation on a point system and Wrestlers may not exceed 18 events or 30 points for the season( Regionals and state are not included in the points) These points are the same for Varsity and JV who ever participates in the dual including forfeits.

Duals-1 point
Double Duals - 2 points
Quads 3 points
One Day tournament 3 points
Two Day tournament 4 points

The only match count that you need to consider is that a wrestler may not have more than 5 matches in one day.

Hope this helps


Matt Sims
Colby High School
Re: Can someone explain the HS match count limit? [Re: MAS] #133042 12/05/08 08:35 PM
Joined: May 2003
Posts: 1,010
G
GregMann Offline
Member
Offline
Member
G
Joined: May 2003
Posts: 1,010


Accepting a forfeit does count as a match wrestled.


Greg Mann
Manhattan, KS
Re: Can someone explain the HS match count limit? [Re: GregMann] #133053 12/05/08 10:31 PM
Joined: Feb 2006
Posts: 408
J
John Johnson Offline
Member
Offline
Member
J
Joined: Feb 2006
Posts: 408
Can anyone explain the rationale behind counting forfeits - dumbest thing I ever heard.

Re: Can someone explain the HS match count limit? [Re: John Johnson] #133055 12/05/08 10:54 PM
Joined: Feb 2004
Posts: 649
badbo Offline
Member
Offline
Member
Joined: Feb 2004
Posts: 649
They count on your record as a win. And you can't without it counting as a competition.

Right or wrong that is why.

Re: Can someone explain the HS match count limit? [Re: John Johnson] #133056 12/05/08 10:55 PM
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 2,555
Beeson Offline
Member
Offline
Member
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 2,555
First of all your talking about the KSHSAA so rationale is out the window. I'm assuming the rationale is not how many matches a wrestler wrestles, but how many events they attend. The wrestler is scoring points for their team.


Unnecessary Roughness is Necessary
Re: Can someone explain the HS match count limit? [Re: Beeson] #134001 12/18/08 02:49 PM
Joined: Nov 2002
Posts: 144
bullwrestler Offline OP
Member
OP Offline
Member
Joined: Nov 2002
Posts: 144
Thanks for the info and explainations.


Re: Can someone explain the HS match count limit? [Re: bullwrestler] #134127 12/19/08 02:21 PM
Joined: Dec 2001
Posts: 1,422
Nigel Isom Offline
Member
Offline
Member
Joined: Dec 2001
Posts: 1,422
I don't post very often here, but every now and then I see something that peaks my interest so I will respond.

Theoretical Maximum

7 two day dual tournaments @ 4 points per tournament
x 5 matches per day
x 2 days per tournament
------
70 matches in reg. season tournaments @ 28 competition points
+ 2 matches in 1 double dual @ 2 competition points
------
72 total regular season matches @ 30 total competition points

Now we figure out maximum matches in the post season. Assuming you are in 3-2-1A or 4A and have full 16 man brackets with no byes. In order to get extra matches you have to lose the 1st round match and wrestle all the way through the backside to place 3rd or 4th. Following this pattern you will wrestle 6 total matches at regionals to place 3rd or 4th so...

72 regular season matches
+ 6 regional matches
------
78 matches

Now on to State where once again a full 16 man bracket awaits. Once again you lose in the 1st round which counts as a match of course. Then you wrestle on the back side. This time however you need only get to the consolation semifinals to get the maximum matches. Up to the consi-semi's you would have wrestled 4 times. If you win that puts you in the consi-finals with 5 matches, and if you include the 3rd and 4th place match that is 6 total matches. If you lose in the consi-semi's that is still your 5th match, and you will wrestle a 6th match for 5th and 6th, so either way its 6 matches at maximum.

So for the final total

78 matches up through regionals
+ 6 State matches
-------
84 = Grand total of MAXIMUM matches/forfeits a wrestler can have in Kansas under the competition points system.

84 is a TON of matches. The figures above make a lot of assumptions as well. For instance
there is not 7 two day dual tournaments available in the state of Kansas. In fact I believe
there may only be 1 or 2. In any case I just used these as examples to get the most matches possible. Also I doubt very seriously that most coaches would be willing to take on a schedule like that, and even more importantly I doubt there are any schools in the state that would let students out of 7 half or full days of school for athletic competion. I'm not even sure if the state BOE allows that many days or half days to be missed.

In any case the practical answer to your question is 84, so now you know. Have fun with this seemingly useless bit of knowledge I have shared with you.


William Nigel Isom
KSHSAA Official # 14274
USAWKS # 577
Riley KS
Re: Can someone explain the HS match count limit? [Re: Nigel Isom] #134132 12/19/08 02:34 PM
Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 10,431
C
Chief Renegade Offline
Member
Offline
Member
C
Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 10,431
84 matches. 504 minutes of live wrestling. 8.4 hours of live wrestling in a season.


Eric Johnson


Acts 4:12



Moderated by  Nate Naasz, RedStorm 

Who's Online Now
0 registered members (), 132 guests, and 1 spider.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Newest Members
CorbinPickerill, ptv, Dane Edwards, Mikemacias, tcox
12298 Registered Users
Forum Statistics
Forums10
Topics35,936
Posts250,367
Members12,298
Most Online709
Nov 21st, 2011
Top Posters(All Time)
usawks1 8,595
smokeycabin 6,248
Aaron Sweazy 5,254
Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.7.2
(Release build 20190702)
PHP: 7.2.34 Page Time: 0.015s Queries: 14 (0.002s) Memory: 0.7904 MB (Peak: 0.9337 MB) Data Comp: Off Server Time: 2024-05-04 21:30:08 UTC
Valid HTML 5 and Valid CSS