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Studs at 12&U 64lb #140444 02/22/09 07:22 PM
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Just wondering who the studs at 64 12&u ?

Re: Studs at 12&U 64lb [Re: Mike Dipman] #140469 02/22/09 11:32 PM
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Andrew Egan, Blake Cusick, Jacob Bonham, Dalton Goans, Bryce Bacon, Logan Duncan, Michael Marsh. These are just a few that I can remember. There is not that many of them participating in this weight division. A few of these may be at 68lbs as we normally have to wrestle in a combined bracket.

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This bracket is loaded 10 out of the 13 kids in the state at 12U 64 are ranked A's. There will be some awesome wrestling. Good luck to all.

Re: Studs at 12&U 64lb [Re: Teresa] #143299 03/11/09 02:17 PM
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Who is this Howard Smith i cant find any tourneys hes wrestled in in kansas all i can find is a Howard Smith from team monday in texas at that weight with that name that won usjoc and the dollamur cotton bowl

Re: Studs at 12&U 64lb [Re: Mike Dipman] #143314 03/11/09 03:28 PM
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Madison Roney won the USJOC at this age and weight! Two tough kids at this weight that should not go unnoticed are Bradin Dipman of Derby and Bryce Garcia of Brawlers!


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Re: Studs at 12&U 64lb [Re: John Moses] #143315 03/11/09 03:36 PM
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we have never seen Howard Smith either he is entered in as a C wrestler with East Kansas. Khamin Crow, Tucker Schriner and Skylar Johnson are all tough kids also. This whole weight class will be a good one to watch.

Re: Studs at 12&U 64lb [Re: Teresa] #143331 03/11/09 05:00 PM
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Well that makes me feel better that hes a c wrestler. But when i googled his name it the only thing i could find is a article from 2008 said he won joc didnt know what weight must not be the same kid.

Re: Studs at 12&U 64lb [Re: Mike Dipman] #143332 03/11/09 05:02 PM
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Seen Dipman placed at liberty

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Howard is the kid to beat. as the others go i would rank them like this.
1-dipman (6TH at liberty)
2-garcia,duncan, or cusick
3-crow,schriner, or egan
4-johnson, or goans

That would be the top ten in my eyes, Dipman and Duncan have met twice in the finals. very close at Salina. i thank duncan was winning at first. any one of these kids could win at any time. they all better get thier game face on.

Re: Studs at 12&U 64lb [Re: bodhi] #143677 03/14/09 01:32 AM
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Bonham beat Goans this year but could go either way pretty evenly matched. All of these boys are great kids and we wish the best to each of them. Good luck

Re: Studs at 12&U 64lb [Re: Teresa] #143776 03/14/09 11:09 PM
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word is Smith dose not live in kansas his grandma dose. just what i heard. can someone clear this up. I think you have to live in Kansas. grade card would be nice.

Re: Studs at 12&U 64lb [Re: crowdad] #143797 03/15/09 01:24 AM
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Howard Smith from East Kansas is the same kid who won JOC and came from Kenny Monday's club. He moved to Kansas a few weeks ago. He has a legit Kansas address. And purchased a USAW card in Kansas (even though he all ready had one in Texas).

Just wanted to make sure no speculations and rumors get started. See you at state.

Thanks

Eric

Re: Studs at 12&U 64lb [Re: Akin Wrestling] #143800 03/15/09 01:43 AM
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According to the Kansas Kids Wrestling Rules attached below it would appear he should have proof of enrollment in a Kansas school which would provide verification of his Kansas residency:

For the purpose of eligibility of entering a Sub-District or District tournament, a competitive member must be a resident of Kansas and/or be enrolled in a Kansas educational school system. Special cases to this rule are subject to notification and permission from the Executive Council. The State Tournament Director will be notified of any person permitted to wrestle under this provision.

I would expect that due to the suspicions it shouldn't be a problem providing this information.

Re: Studs at 12&U 64lb [Re: Mike Dipman] #143822 03/15/09 03:28 AM
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If he won JOC why is he entered in as a C wrestler?

Re: Studs at 12&U 64lb [Re: Teresa] #143833 03/15/09 05:45 AM
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sanbagger!!


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How would he know what a C wrestler is compared to what Texas wrestler is.Sounds like somebody is just trying to get a free ride to placing.Average in Kansas might be below average in Texas or vice versa just wrestle and stop trying to get the easy way to State.Wrestle and prove it on thr Mat.

Re: Studs at 12&U 64lb [Re: CJA] #143845 03/15/09 12:54 PM
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Come on, they aren't inexperienced wrestlers we all no what a "C" wrestler is especially knowing that he is a national champion which would be the same in any state. We are ready to prove it on the mat but first I would expect that he prove his residency with a copy of his Kansas school enrollment. It's not about a free ride, it's about being honest and not taking something away from a Kansas wrestler.

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it's common sense, but parents mess up the ratings every year. earlier this year a parent/coach came up to me and was complaining that his son was seeded below one of our wrestlers. he said you know that he hasn't beat my son in over two years, i replied " i know, and i know that both have been state champions in the past, your boy was entered as a "C" wrestler. if you don't rate him right, don't expect someone else to seed him right" coaches who know better should make the changes at the seeding meetings, past that it's all about wrestling.


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I think this kid was the only 1 in his bracket for subs. His rating doesn't even matter from here on out he is the 1 seed from the south.


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Re: Studs at 12&U 64lb [Re: mmeditz] #143854 03/15/09 01:46 PM
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The ranking is not the important issue here, it is whether or not he is a legitimate Kansas resident. Out of fairness to the other wrestlers, I would hope that we can get to the bottom of this.

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