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Re: U.S. Army Metro Classic [Re: WillyM] #163258 03/02/10 08:40 PM
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Is the Metro a test of the best or not? Vincent would pin any others that have been mentioned. Is that an easier concept?


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Re: U.S. Army Metro Classic [Re: WillyM] #163259 03/02/10 08:42 PM
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I do see what you are talking about, but you seem so angry with a situation that does not effect you what so ever. Parent of a heavy weight maybe?
Anyway, Lucas will not be wresting in the Metro Classic do to his shoulder injury. He is being examined by the Mizzou staff this week and is under orders to do nothing until they look at him....so relax, Lucas isn't going to take the spot of someone more "deserving."

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Please explain how feeling that a wrestler ,that was a member of his team for the full season, should represent team Kansas equates to “TRASH TALKING”. No one said anything derogatory about Mr. Vincent and it is clear if he would have decided to wrestle this year he would be a much welcome and deserving addition.
I wonder if his High school coach or teammates would have been so accepting of his return to the Team if they had a Varsity wrestler already in that position. Live with your decisions and learn from your mistakes.

http://varsity.kansascity.com/custom/article&news_id=3478
http://varsity.kansascity.com/custom/article&news_id=3567


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Re: U.S. Army Metro Classic [Re: wrestlingparents] #163267 03/02/10 09:07 PM
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Me! Not the least bit angry. Did not effect me in any way. But, it would have affected some other deserving wrestlers, and there was a very big issue concerning "fairness".

Thanks for your reply and good Luck to Lucas at MU--would like to have seen him at KU or KSU.


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Re: U.S. Army Metro Classic [Re: Bauerly] #163284 03/02/10 11:08 PM
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Originally Posted By: Bauerly
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Why not Josh Hanson of Baldwin at 130... he took 3rd at a much tougher bracket than Erkers...


How in the world do you know his was tougher take a break?

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Well for starters a blue valley west kid placed...


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ok dude i dont care about whats "fair" im the best out there and if kansas doesnt wanna win thats theyre fault dont pick me doesnt bother me one bit so go ahead be a grown man and talk stuff on a 17 year old kid what ever helps you sleep at night big guy (:

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Yep, Lucas is the best.. and you gotta do whats best for the team


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Re: U.S. Army Metro Classic [Re: Bender] #163334 03/03/10 02:40 AM
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As the dual approaches the final match, the Kansas faithful will all be wishing we had the giant beast that pins everybody. I say let's invite him.


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Re: U.S. Army Metro Classic [Re: wrestlingparents] #163342 03/03/10 02:59 AM
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Originally Posted By: wrestlingparents
Anyway, Lucas will not be wresting in the Metro Classic do to his shoulder injury. He is being examined by the Mizzou staff this week and is under orders to do nothing until they look at him....so relax, Lucas isn't going to take the spot of someone more "deserving."


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Say it ain't so! We need those 6 points.


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Re: U.S. Army Metro Classic [Re: Chief Renegade] #163362 03/03/10 04:02 AM
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I have no dog in this fight other than wanting to see Kansas win but I'll weigh in none the less. I hope my comments don't offend anyone because I certainly don't mean them too.

I think the question here is...what is the metro classic about? Is an "all star" event to reward kids for a great year by offering them attendance? Or is it an opportunity for kansas to beat missouri? We all know that all star events such as the MLB, NFL, and NBA all star games are simply to award the most deserving with an appearance. People talk about the number of all star games/pro bowls a guy has been too, not the number they've won. If that's the case for the metro classic then I say we invite someone who wrestled for the entire season and allow them to say they wrestled in the metro. However, if it's about beating Missouri, the choice is an easy one, you take the kid who has the best opportunity to score for Kansas--Lucas Vincent.

I would contend that as Kansans we do see this event as about winning. My evidence for this is in a heavyweight match that took place 2-3 years ago. Kansas was ahead by 4-5 points going into the final match and missouri trotted out all-american Dom Bradley. Kansas' heavyweight (whom I cannot remember who it was now) wrestled the match with no offense and simply refused to give bradley the opportunity to turn him. Bradley won the match 4-0 scoring 1 escape and then being awarded 3 stalling points. Kansas hung on to win the duel and Kansas fans rejoiced.

I guess if the point was participation we would have expected the kid to go out there and wrestle a match with no regard for the team score, however, that's not what happened and that's not what the fans wanted--we wanted Kansas to win and that's what it was all about.

If that's what it's about we need to put the kids on the mat that have the best opportunity to win for Kansas. If that's not what its about we need to stop caring about winning; and judging from the crowd at the last several metro classics, I don't see that happening.

Re: U.S. Army Metro Classic [Re: wrestle007] #163403 03/03/10 02:00 PM
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135 - Hood
140 - Weller
145 - Walker
152 - Curtis
160 - Madl


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Re: U.S. Army Metro Classic [Re: Chief Renegade] #163409 03/03/10 02:25 PM
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Hi Everybody,

Here is the Kansas lineup. There will be two 152 pound matches.

103---Trevor Boyer------------Mill Valley High School
112---Denzell Davis-----------Fort Scott High School
119---Bret LaMar--------------Silver Lake High School
125---Kane Lavvorn------------Holton High School
130---Bryce Hood--------------Louisburg High School
135---Derrick Weller----------Piper High School
140---Jake Walker-------------St. Thomas Aquinas High School
145---Trip Hiller-------------Olathe South High School
152---Austin Willis-----------Shawnee Heights High School
152---Todd Curtis-------------Gardner Edgerton High School
160---Parker Madl-------------Blue Valley High School
171---Jeremie Maus------------Tonganoxie High School
189---David Blazevic----------Olathe North High School
215---Nick Pearch-------------Blue Valley High School
285---Ryan Kincaid------------Bishop Miege High School

Coaches: Randy Lowe-----------Blue Valley West High School
Kale Mann------------Mill Valley High School
Chris Paisley--------Blue Valley High School
Chad Parks-----------Shawnee Heights High School

Re: U.S. Army Metro Classic [Re: Gary Ulmer] #163412 03/03/10 02:52 PM
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MO line-up!

103 Colton Ross – (-,-,3,5) Pleasant Hill
112 Logan Welch – (2,1,3,2) Lexington
119 Alan Waters – (1,1,1,1) Park Hill
125 Travis Peters – (-,2,-,2) O’Hara
130 Spencer Courier – (-,-,5,3) Lee’s Summit
135 Cody Pierce – (-,5,-,4) Kearney
140 Dylan Marriott – (4,4,2,1) Excelsior Springs
145 Kaleb Friedley – (-,1,3,1) Park Hill
152 Daniel Breit – (2,2,3,3) Ray-Pec
152 Jake Logsdon – (4,-,-,4) Lee’s Summit West
160 Chaz Lyman – (6,2,5,1) Excelsior Springs
171 Blaine Conner – (1,2) Platte County
189 John Eblen – (-,4,2,1) Park Hill
215 Devin Mellon - (2,1,1,1) Lawson
285 Billy Everett – (-,-,-,2) Blue Springs


Coaches: Mike Tuck – Park Hill
Phil Dorman – Platte County
Joe Griem – Excelsior Springs

Official: Matt Briegel


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Re: U.S. Army Metro Classic [Re: Chief Renegade] #163471 03/03/10 07:44 PM
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I think we have a pretty good shot at winning this!

Re: U.S. Army Metro Classic [Re: Quagmire] #163472 03/03/10 07:46 PM
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I have it 25-25 heading into HWT!


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Re: U.S. Army Metro Classic [Re: Chief Renegade] #163475 03/03/10 07:50 PM
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Chief,
can you give us a break down?

Re: U.S. Army Metro Classic [Re: Quagmire] #163499 03/03/10 09:10 PM
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I'll stay with the total score and keep positive on this thread. I would be glad to answer a PM on that.


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Re: U.S. Army Metro Classic [Re: Chief Renegade] #163550 03/04/10 02:47 AM
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Check out the metro classic thread on the MO wrestling forums! It seems they believe Kansas is being less then truthful when it comes to our weigh ins!

http://www.missouriwrestling.com/forum/showthread.php?t=10894


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Re: U.S. Army Metro Classic [Re: Bender] #163782 03/05/10 04:33 PM
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You have got to be kidding brand new already offering opinions again post your name quit hiding under cloak of a screen name. How in the world do you think so and so is better than blue valley west kid?

Bauerly

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