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Re: 321A, 4A, 5A, 6A Team of the decade [Re: Carl Hungus] #163380 03/03/10 07:03 AM
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Mayb charboneau at 12 d 2 nat champ at unk or uno

Re: 321A, 4A, 5A, 6A Team of the decade [Re: Carl Hungus] #163415 03/03/10 03:14 PM
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Originally Posted By: Carl Hungus
Mayb charboneau at 12 d 2 nat champ at unk or uno


I'm well aware of Trevor Charbonneau's success at the next level. However, those 3 third place medals and a single state championship don't quite matchup with Earl Jones in my opinion. Jones was a 3X state champion and 1X runner-up in high school. He was a 2X JUCO national champion while at LCC and was a key member of the National Championship team. The one knock on Jones was that he didn't have the same success while at UCO. He had to deal with arguably the most adversity of any of the wrestlers on the Ricky Bobby All-Decade 4A Team (2000-2009).


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Re: 321A, 4A, 5A, 6A Team of the decade [Re: Carl Hungus] #163419 03/03/10 03:35 PM
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Originally Posted By: Carl Hungus
Charbonneau gratr marrs clay murray d1 finalist 2x luedke erisman napier maple nitcher moeder


Maple doesn't make this list because it is for 4A, he wrestled in 6A with Wichita Heights.

I'd consider Chase Nitcher and Cade Blair if most of their careers had been in 4A, but they only wrestled one year there, which was in the next decade (2010). The team is meant for 2000-2009.

Moder would likely make the next decade team of 2010-2019, because his upperclassman years will be used then. If he was a possible 4X state champion like Ryne Coekley I would have given him consideration.

Jesse Strawn gets the nod for me over Marrs because of the more consistent success while in high school. Strawn lost in the state finals as a freshman and sophomore to Ross Taplin. He then won back to back titles and was a Senior Nationals All-American. Strawn wrestles for D1, Old Dominion, where he has qualified for Nationals.

Jacob Marrs is tearing it up at UNO, but he didn't quite have the same success in high school. He won one title in his junior year and lost in the finals his senior year when he was the favorite. Marrs took 4th as a sophomore and went 1-2 at state his freshman year. Marrs was also a Senior Nationals All-American.

As for the other wrestlers listed I think I've addressed criteria or they are already on the team.


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Re: 321A, 4A, 5A, 6A Team of the decade [Re: Carl Hungus] #163478 03/03/10 08:00 PM
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Jermy Long was a 4 time State Champ. 2 pr 3 of those were in the 90s. A tough kid with lots of technique and skill. Had the typical SFT hard ass attitude, buts that's why they were so successful in the 90's. Hard to leave him off.

Another exceptional wrestler from that period: Josh Brown from Columbus (I think 1, 1 , 2, 1). Intense!! Intense!! Intense!! If you looked in his eyes you would turn and run.

Don'tthink either Long or Brown wrestled after HS. Both may have enrolled in a south KS CC, but droped out during the first year.


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Re: 321A, 4A, 5A, 6A Team of the decade [Re: WillyM] #163479 03/03/10 08:08 PM
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Jeremy wrestled for CMSU for a year, but things didn't work out for him there and he went back home.

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Re: 321A, 4A, 5A, 6A Team of the decade [Re: Carl Hungus] #163500 03/03/10 09:20 PM
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Wow, I can't believe I overlooked a 4X state champion. I knew the name sounded familiar, I just couldn't place it. The most logical option I can come up with is making two spots on the roster at 130, this moves Naiper up to his weight he won 3 championships at and puts Garcia back where he wrestled is sophomore year.

I can't justify taking Garcia off the list because he had a win over 4X state champion Jake Kreigbaum the week of regionals, and was a 2X state champion with a runner-up finish to Kreigbaum. Garcia also placed at Senior Nationals and had a good career at Colby CC and has contributed at UNK. Long did have the four titles, but three came in the previous decade. He also didn't pan out in college, but this happens a lot after the freshman year. I'll still give him some props though and put him as co-130 with Garcia.

Ricky Bobby's All-Decade 4A Team (2000-2009)
103: Jake Kreigbaum-Abilene
112: Earl Jones-Coffeyville
119: Austin DeVoe-Columbus
125:Matt Murray-Colby
130: Cole Garcia-Colby and Jeremy Long-Santa Fe Trail
135: CJ Naiper-Columbus
140: Danny Grater-Clay Center
145: Eric Luedke-Colby
152: Ryne Coekley-St. James Academy
160: Ross Taplin-Abilene
171: Neil Erisman-DeSoto
189: Jesse Strawn-Holton
215: Jordan Bedore-Goodland
285: Atticus Disney-Andover Central


Now I challenge someone to compile a 6A and 5A list from the past decade. We already have a 321A and 4A list.


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Re: 321A, 4A, 5A, 6A Team of the decade [Re: Ricky Bobby] #163562 03/04/10 12:02 PM
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Smokey's Preliminary List - Draft

103 & 112 Keller Brothers and Paulie Hanson
119 Shawn Bunch, Cody Garcia, Tanner Gardner
125 Trent Cox, Kendric Maple
130 Josh Badlridge, Chris & Tyler McCormick, Trishten Deshzaer
135 Jared Vogel, Dusty Spaulding
140 & 145 Joe Johnston, Joe Cornejo
152 Jacob Klien
160 Ty Caldwell, Kyle Detmer
171 Gabe Conahagn, Neil Cisper, Romero Cotton, Parker Madl
189 Boaz Beard, Justin Dyer, Romero Cotton
215 Kyle Caylor, Joe Bach, Josh Carrol
HWT Atticus Disney - Shawnee Heights, Steve Andrus, Jeremiah Beltran

I need some help with this - it was my quick run through.

Pretty good list of guys

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Re: 321A, 4A, 5A, 6A Team of the decade [Re: smokeycabin] #163579 03/04/10 02:00 PM
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Smokey,

While I agree that that is a really good list of guys, I would submit that Trent Cox should be considered a 4A wrestler as he wrestled all but one year at Andale. His one year at Maize was at 130, not 125, I believe. He could very well replace one of Ricky's lower weights on the 4A if Ricky was so inclined.

I also think someone should split these guys into 5A and 6A lists so as to better compare each classification.

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You can split it anyway you want. I just came up with a quick list of 5A & 6A.

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Sorry, it can't be me, I get too confused on which schools are 5 and 6A. Too many Southeasts and Northsouths.

Re: 321A, 4A, 5A, 6A Team of the decade [Re: windjammer] #163616 03/04/10 05:13 PM
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I'll take a shot at 5A just to get the conversation rolling. I'm going to need a lot of fillers though, and it will be clearly noticed that I'm from kc and don't know the rest of the state as well. Don't bash it! Just fill it in.

103- Keller bros...I can't keep em straight
112- Paul Hansen
119- Tanner Gardner
125- ???
130- Josh Baldridge
135- Dusty Spaulding

Cornejo definitely need to be in here somewhere...Did he finish at 145?

I remember Matt Bailes of Turner lost to the same kid in the finals a couple times, I think the kid was from Ark City...any body remember who that was? probably would be a pretty good pick..

skipping to some bigger weights...

171- Nathan Payne
189- Tyler Gonzales
215- Joe Bach
285- Caleb Payne/Atticus Disney

Re: 321A, 4A, 5A, 6A Team of the decade [Re: Ricky Bobby] #163617 03/04/10 05:16 PM
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Jeremy Long would headlock Cole Carcia, This guy had the best headlock I have ever seen. 1999 state Jeremy was getting beat bad by like 8 points got to his feet hit the lock and pinned the kid. It took about 4 seconds for him to get back in the match.

Re: 321A, 4A, 5A, 6A Team of the decade [Re: Lucas Baker] #163636 03/04/10 06:26 PM
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For 4a, Maybe Shawn Silvis from Augusta? He was a 2000 grad if I am not mistaken. I know after high school he was a 3x DII finalist winning twice.

Also for 3a what about Norton's Eric Johnson...wasn't he a 4 time state finalist? I think one of the years was in 4a.

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Re: 321A, 4A, 5A, 6A Team of the decade [Re: NCCC WRESTLING] #163679 03/05/10 01:19 AM
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125 for 5a should probably be Doug Hoover from Kapaun


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Re: 321A, 4A, 5A, 6A Team of the decade [Re: chewbacca] #163694 03/05/10 02:37 AM
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Blake Seiler - I believe he began wrestling his freshman year. Accomplished a ton with such limited mat time.

Mark Dugan

Where the DeVoe brothers in the 2000's? Wrestline at Missouri.

The Ulysses Heavyweight... Tony ?(Lewis maybe)

6A might include one of the Heinekers from Derby and you might have to mention Dusty May from Derby. Was it in 2000 or 01 when we crowned 3 4 timers at one time in the Kansas Collesium (Long, Stites, and Spaulding.) I edited this and I think I'm accurate this time. It's never good to do research that late.

Issac Wall from Andover in 4A.

6A has a couple of Maize kids you could through in there (Hentzen was pretty good) I know I'm missing several kids from the northeast... Manhattan had some tough kids and Josh Carrol was mentioned already.

Ian Bork as well.


Luke Metzler in 5A

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Re: 321A, 4A, 5A, 6A Team of the decade [Re: Jason Halling] #163704 03/05/10 03:39 AM
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Originally Posted By: Jason Halling
I did my own research and it Was DeVoe, Austin as a 4 timer and the year was 2001


Austin DeVoe didn't win the title his freshman year. He lost in the finals, but I don't know the opponent. Austin DeVoe did wrestle at the University of Missouri and I believe qualified for the NCAA Tournament.


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Re: 321A, 4A, 5A, 6A Team of the decade [Re: Ricky Bobby] #163710 03/05/10 04:02 AM
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Chris Saferite was another tough kid for Augusta he wrestled at uco one of his high school loses was to long in the finals i beleive. Long's sophmore he beat 2 undafeated wrestlers in the tournament Porter from Beloit and Tillman from pratt.

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Re: 321A, 4A, 5A, 6A Team of the decade [Re: 321a Wrestler] #163741 03/05/10 01:08 PM
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DeVoe lost to Tovar from Abilene in the finals his freshman year.


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Re: 321A, 4A, 5A, 6A Team of the decade [Re: chewie] #163966 03/07/10 01:25 PM
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Norton Team Placings of Last Decade: 7 State Trophies in 10 years, never lower than 5th place in the decade. Plus 2010, start of next decade.
2000 Fourth 3-2-1A
2001 3rd 3-2-1A
2002 5th 4-A
2003 2nd 3-2-1A
2004 Champions 3-2-1A
2005 Champions 3-2-1A
2006 Champions 3-2-1A
2007 3rd 3-2-1A (only 1.5 pts. out of 1st)
2008 4th 3-2-1A
2009 3rd 3-2-1A
2010 Champions 3-2-1A

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I just read that Tristen Deshazer has pinned Jake Kreigbaum in a college match. I do think Jake Kreigbaum is over rated but I can't seem to think of a better 103lb wrestler. Has anyone one compiled an all state team of the decade for all classes combine? That would be quite the amazing list. For 6A a few picks of mine would be:
Doug Hoover, Jacob Ashpole, Tristen Deshazer, Josh Baldridge, Mark Dugan, Jared Vogel, and Thomas Rhodes (He would have been a four timer and is probably one of the reasons alot of these guys wrestle at such an elite level of competition. He was an incredible wrestler,his presence and the Kansas kids program really increased the level of competition in the state.)

My 5A picks would be Josh Baldridge, Tristen Deshazer, Trison Graham, Luke Metler, Romero Cotton.

4A: Jeremy Long, Eric Luedke, Emery McRenoylds, Marcus Bowman, Earl Jones, Austin Devoe, Jordan Bedore

321A: Mat Gilliland, Josh Brown

I believe that Garcia should not make the list over Long. I'm sure I missed a few.. I have won matches over a lot of these guys and there were some that I left out because I have pinned them before.. and the comment about Jeremy Long pinning Garcia in a headlock posted by Lucas Baker.. so true. The only time I ever threw a head lock was against Garcia. Stuck him in twelve seconds. But never wrestled him again.. so I am biased. I'm sure there are a few greats from Kids wrestling who alot of the guys on this list would rep for.. Hightower from Wichita West/ Collegiate, Thomas Rhodes, etc... unfortunately they didn't continue on with wrestling, but IMO they would sit atop my all time decade greats list.

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