DII Brackets are out
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Re: DII Brackets are out
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Re: DII Brackets are out
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It looks like a nice draw for Harrison at 141's. I expect he'll make the finals. I don't like Tommy or Grater's, but either of those boys can win it.
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Re: DII Brackets are out
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03/03/10 02:36 AM
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Bottom line is we'll have to beat some studs to place anyway, but I personally liked the draw over the other option it could have been. Pill b was drawn last year, which means it had to be pill a or pill c this year.see appendix b (page 25)of this document for more description - http://web1.ncaa.org/web_files/champ_handbooks/wrestling/2010/2_wrestling_handbook.pdfIMO, there would have been a lot of projected finals matches wrestled in the semis under pill C. Thought 197 was interesting with Pill a - first round match between last year's 184 pound champ (Sand) vs. last year's 197 pound champ (Griffin). Had pill C been drawn, it would have been Sand vs. Marrs in the first round.
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03/03/10 04:13 AM
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Chenoweth got the Lucky PILL!
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Rynish is pretty tough! I don't know if thats a lucky pill draw for him.. Curtis is dangerious though and can catch just about anyone. Rynish has a great shot which may play into Chenowith's style.... We shall see.
FHSU's boys are sitting pretty nice for the most part.
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under the other pill Curtis would have Usman 1st match.
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03/03/10 02:09 PM
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Thanks for that link Les. I didn't know exactly how they drew these up.
I guess it is the semi's matches that worry me with Grater and Edgemon. I was just looking at it purely with a set of "final glasses" on.
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03/05/10 12:55 AM
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How long has the tourney been scored this way? A little tilt goes a long way for the team.
tech fall (w/ near fall)= 1 1/2 tech fall (w/o near fall)= 1 major decision = 1
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03/05/10 01:12 AM
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i'm guessing since they changed the dual scoring to that way. a tech w/o nearfall is only worth 4 pts. i think last year was the first year for div 1 to do this. was it a trial run for them last year? funny rule. a tech is a tech. shouldn't matter how you score imo.
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So it turns out I'm really not "well aware of how scoring works"! A was unaware of the tech rule. I agree...a tech should be a tech.
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03/05/10 01:21 AM
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i'm guessing since they changed the dual scoring to that way. a tech w/o nearfall is only worth 4 pts. i think last year was the first year for div 1 to do this. was it a trial run for them last year? funny rule. a tech is a tech. shouldn't matter how you score imo. Wouldn't that be a pain to scorekeep and keep track of? I hope high schools never go to that!
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Omaha is getting ready for Div II National Tournament. They are adding a new large scoreboard & video screen in the fieldhouse. I'd post a photo if I knew how. Anyone planning to attend?
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i'm guessing since they changed the dual scoring to that way. a tech w/o nearfall is only worth 4 pts. i think last year was the first year for div 1 to do this. was it a trial run for them last year? funny rule. a tech is a tech. shouldn't matter how you score imo. Wouldn't that be a pain to scorekeep and keep track of? I hope high schools never go to that! High School is already that way
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I know of no scorekeeper that keeps track of nearfalls if there is a tech fall. I don't believe the computer data entry does either. How is that being scored then?
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I would not miss it for the world. UNO is planning on a really BIG show. This will be the total opposite of Houston which was a joke.
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I saw Jordan Nichols in a FHSU dual get a tech fall without near fall points. The rule has been in effect for quite some time, you just hardly ever see it.
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High School is already that way High School tournament scoring is NOT the same as collegiate scoring. NFHS Rule 9-2 (pg. 45): Tournament Scoring: Fall - 2 pts. Default - 2 pts. Forfeit - 2 pts. Disqualification - 2 pts. Technical Fall - 1 1/2 pts. Major Decision - 1 pt.
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I was referring to dual meet scoring in High School, but I stand corrected as it's not 4 points for a Tech Fall with no nearfall points.
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