you are all forgetting, wrestling teaches life lessons. life is not fair. you will not compete with any age allowances in the real world. teach your youngster to deal with tough circumstances, at a young age, it will improve their quality of life later. quit trying to prepare the path for the child.

We could move it up one month each year until we get to August of the following year, then start moving it back down until we get back to September and then repeat. That way everyone has a chance to be on top of the age bracket.

I know I've been wrong before, but trust me on this, it will be totally awesome!

then will they change the rule every year as new kids come in with new birthdays and others leave??

i say it is what it is. and it always will be..

Isn't there a waiver form we could fill out if laber was induced? Or maybe I should start a new thread, "Moms who allow laber to be induced and the wrestlers who suffer!"

just do a two year cycle like they do for high school sports

we could do like the frontier league and nckl have proposed in high school, expand the age groups. all 5 years olds that were born in march wrestle in their own bracket, the same for april, may, june, july, august, sept, oct, nov, dec, jan, feb. then 6year olds march, april, may..............see it's not so hard, then each and every kid will have a real good shot. oh wait, let's cut the pound difference to 1 pound while we are at it. if it still seems unfair after the trial first year, we can cut it to first half of march/ second half. looks to be good for everyone, let's vote.

I'll vote for it. But I don't want home schooled kids in there. To much advantage!

I second it.

happy birthday MR oven. You guys got my vote. State will be simple-- YES!!!

Thanks Mike, another day. work, practice,dinner, bed.

Hey 7 someone is always gonna have an advantage! It will never change no matter where the date is put! I think if every thread on this site was looked into and changed the cost to wrestle in kansas would be tremendous, because the kids wrestling is gonna have to hire permanent people and pay them lots of money to research all these ideas! So......... be happy that the cost is where it is, because all everyone on here is doing for kids down the line is tryin to make it so unaffordable to wrestle! Dates a date no matter where it is put!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Just my 2 cents!!!!!!!!!!!!!

GREAT IDEA headup lets put it in motion!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

No

I have 3 sons wrestling , brithdays r in dec,may and the youngest is in jan. the one with the most disadvantage ,the middle one ,loves this sport with all his being, but he does have a great baseball brithday .And always i thought the season never really ended , Practice starts right after state.

My son's Birthday is August 16th, which puts him on the down side of the age bracket, but he has never complained about being one of the youngest in his age bracket. Actually he has relized that he needs to work that much harder to keep up with the older kids. Being on the downside of his age bracket this year he has earned his first trip to the State Tournament, he did not earn it by being one of the oldest and being more mature then the other kids, he earned it by working hard and listening and learning.And it also gives me a little extra to be proud of knowing that he is probably the youngest in his bracket at State, not that I could be any more proud of him for what he has already accomplished. Would I like to see the date changed, you bet I would, anyone out there for an August first cut off date..lol..

Matman 1976 I hate to correct you but it has not always been that way when my oldest son who is now 25 wrestled kids the cut off was dec 31. So if you were 10 in 2010 you wrestle 10 and under. With my second son his birthday is in July not such a good birthday. Next year he will be 12 and under. So he may meet a boy who is 13 because his birthday is in sept. and he will be 11 by just a few weeks. So far it has not been so bad but next year it may be. To me there is a big difference between an 11 year old and a 13 year old. They start to mature in all kinds of ways. I think dec 31 is better.

Just wait until high school when your 14 year old freshman may be wrestling an 18 year old man.

To qualify for 12U this year you have to have been born between 9/1/96 and 8/31/98. This is 2 years no matter how you count (24 months, 104 weeks, 730 days, 17520 hours, etc). It makes no difference where you put the dividing line it will always be two years. n7m13c19, if your boy was born on July 1st, the oldest boy in the bracket could only be 668 days older than you if you are on the bottom side of the age and potentially 303 days older than you if you are on the top side. Just looking at the days of the calendar year, there are 8.493% (62/730) of posible days your son could have been born that are worse than your sons in terms of USAWA-KS birthday cut off. No matter where you draw the line...somebody will be in a similar situation as you.

I personally believe keeping the USAWA-KS age cut off consistant with when kids start school is the best...I have one son with March 27th birthday. If I wanted to look out for him, I would say why not make the USAWA-KS birthday cut off line be your age on the first day of the qualifying series? Any one of us could make an argument why one date on the calendar is better than the other. But in my opinion, if you break any situation down to "actual age" I don't think saying that an "11 year old is wrestling a 13 year old" is a very logical reason to shake things up.

Well mark it has never bothered me till at district that I was watching some boys in the same weight only 12 and under. They just looked so big!!! And mature. By next year maybe my boy will seem that big and mature. I don't necessarily want it changed because when you change it the problem just shifts to someone else and I know this. Whatever date you pick there will be good bdays and bad ones. When it is your xhild just makes you worry. Good job with the math. You know if I had known they had changed maybe I would have had him in a different month LOL!!!!!

this topic does come up every once in a while. The problem is theres not completely "fair" way to do it. Somebody always has the bad birthday. Jonny For instance has a DEC birthday which always puts him on the young side in Mo. Jan 1st cutoff but its never really held back his performance or success. But I always have made sure to let him know not to use it as an excuse.