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Concordia Regionals #182307 02/15/11 07:40 PM
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All of the entries with records are now on the USD333 website under regional wrestling entries.

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Re: Concordia Regionals [Re: DOUG MOORE] #182313 02/15/11 07:47 PM
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Sorry, the link on the KWCA home page for the Concordia regionals.

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Re: Concordia Regionals [Re: On_the_Mat] #182322 02/15/11 08:30 PM
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The 112# bracket has got to be one of the toughest Regional Brackets in the State -- in Dustin Reed(Colby) 32-2, Regis Weiss (Russell) 24-2 , Jr. Morgan (Abilene) 23-3 & Brad Hake (Concordia) 29-5... all who will likely be State medalist barring the unforeseen.

Re: Concordia Regionals [Re: On_the_Mat] #182369 02/16/11 12:34 AM
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Look at the 160 bracket - how many winning records were there?? Does it measure up to the Ark City Regional!!!

Re: Concordia Regionals [Re: John Johnson] #182433 02/16/11 01:09 PM
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I think Buhler wins the prize for having kid with the best name: Pistol Holliday at 112.


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If his Dad is a doctor, he would be the son of Doc!


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Re: Concordia Regionals [Re: Chief Renegade] #182496 02/16/11 05:02 PM
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Maybe his dad is a dentist or has a PhD.

Re: Concordia Regionals [Re: chewie] #182564 02/16/11 10:30 PM
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John Im sure that that had something to do with me. Ark city Regional is a JOKE week at 112,119,130,140,145,160,215,285 But when you only have 8 kids you only have to better than 4 kids to go to state. I will wait till next week to prove my point. Kids with bad records make it to 5a 6a state that does not happen in small schools.

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Mr.Baker who are you to call out any regional a joke. This thread is about Concordia Regional, everything usually works itself out in the end (state,freestyle,greco,dual teams). Let it go.
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Re: Concordia Regionals [Re: Tommyboy] #182666 02/17/11 05:09 AM
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Beeson was crying about how tuff your regional was going to be I just broke it down on the other page go read it your boys name was in there a few times. O to answer your question I am Lucas Baker.

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Ok that clears it up for me,Lucas Baker.

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Originally Posted By: Lucas Baker
Kids with bad records make it to 5a 6a state that does not happen in small schools.


And those bad records never place so what does it matter? It's tougher to be a state qualifier in 4a I grant you that, but that is not the goal of the state series. But to be a state placer is pretty equal from 4a-6a. The goal of the state series is to find out who your top 6 placers are.

It happens in football every year that a lessor team makes the playoffs because of what conference they are in, while a tougher team stays home. At the end though the best usually make it to the end and that is the point of any year end tournament, not whining about some kid that got there that shouldn't.

And records alone don't tell the story. Our 103 has a losing record, by a decent margin. He is small for 103 and is getting better everyday, but has losing record none the less. He beat a 3a kid with a great record because that 3a kid wrestles a schedule much less challenging. But stat wise our 103 will get called out while the other young man with 20-10 record (or something like it) will get used to legitimize how tough it is to qualify...

Nothing against any kid. They are all trying their guts out to get better. The top 6 will place and that is all that matters.

I am just saying you can make the numbers say whatever you want.

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Originally Posted By: Lucas Baker
John Im sure that that had something to do with me. Ark city Regional is a JOKE week at 112,119,130,140,145,160,215,285 But when you only have 8 kids you only have to better than 4 kids to go to state. I will wait till next week to prove my point. Kids with bad records make it to 5a 6a state that does not happen in small schools.


No Lucas, you are the Joke and that is an asinine statement which proves that you are exactly that.

And you don't have to wait until next week Lucas to "prove your point" that kids with "bad records" make it to 5A and 6A state. That is common knowledge and is hashed out every year. We have already discussed this at nausea just as of late. But remember, they don't get there because the class is weak but because the regional is. If the regionals in 5A and 6A were balanced you would not see that.

You may respond Lucas if you want of course but I am planning to address your questions and comments on the Ark City Regional thread but later because I don't have time right now.

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Originally Posted By: Lucas Baker
Kids with bad records make it to 5a 6a state that does not happen in small schools.


And those bad records never place so what does it matter? It's tougher to be a state qualifier in 4a I grant you that, but that is not the goal of the state series. But to be a state placer is pretty equal from 4a-6a. The goal of the state series is to find out who your top 6 placers are.

It happens in football every year that a lessor team makes the playoffs because of what conference they are in, while a tougher team stays home. At the end though the best usually make it to the end and that is the point of any year end tournament, not whining about some kid that got there that shouldn't.

And records alone don't tell the story. Our 103 has a losing record, by a decent margin. He is small for 103 and is getting better everyday, but has losing record none the less. He beat a 3a kid with a great record because that 3a kid wrestles a schedule much less challenging. But stat wise our 103 will get called out while the other young man with 20-10 record (or something like it) will get used to legitimize how tough it is to qualify...

Nothing against any kid. They are all trying their guts out to get better. The top 6 will place and that is all that matters.

I am just saying you can make the numbers say whatever you want.


Of course these are great comments and extremely accurate.

Great example as well with the 103 pounder and the 3A kid with the "crap" schedule. That is really what I was alluding to when Ricky and I were at it on the Ark City Regional thread.

I will concede that for the most part it is tougher to get to state in 4A, but you cannot make that a blanket statement though because that is not always the case. There are many times where there is a kid that could place in 4A but didn't even get to 5A or 6A state because he was in the wrong regional or the wrong weight.

You can definitely spin those numbers however you want to though Badbo, you are right about that.

Re: Concordia Regionals [Re: XGHSWC] #182826 02/17/11 11:11 PM
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NO when I provide that many different numbers it only proves that 5a needs to be combined with 6a so that you too can have 12 kids with winning records in your brackets at regionals. But for now you will have to deal with 6 being your best.

Re: Concordia Regionals [Re: Lucas Baker] #182983 02/18/11 05:37 PM
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Brackets are posted now.

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Where can I find the Concordia Regional brackets?

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Re: Concordia Regionals [Re: Lucas Baker] #183170 02/19/11 12:53 PM
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Originally Posted By: Lucas Baker
John Im sure that that had something to do with me. Ark city Regional is a JOKE week at 112,119,130,140,145,160,215,285 But when you only have 8 kids you only have to better than 4 kids to go to state. I will wait till next week to prove my point. Kids with bad records make it
to 5a 6a state that does not happen in small schools.


Enough of your man-crush on Beeson. You (Baker) had plenty of chances when you lived in KS. You NEVER made it happen. Now, you want him to buy you a ticket?! That is just too dang silly. . . Buy you own darn ticket if you want to wrestle him so bad...

"Please ask Baker why he is not wrestling Beeson..."

Nah, never mind. It is obvious.


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Re: Concordia Regionals [Re: Dean Welsh] #183175 02/19/11 01:18 PM
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Beeson had my number he could of came up to Concordia dont blame this on me. We met in Topeka at state last year spoke to each other we could of done it right then.

welsh you have not read the email he has sent me.

My transmission just went out it ran me 1800 dollars to repair sorry I dont have 450 to spend on a plane ticket. I figured if he got me a ticket I would have to wrestle him right. So if he wants to do this in the next month he buys a ticket I fly in to Wichita stay with my Cousin and Do the damn thing IN JOE DIRT LAND then next day then fly home and post the video. THE BALL IS IN HIS COURT IF he wants me hes going to have to pay for it.

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