The state board voted us...out jan of this yr...

If I remember correctly a couple of these boys placed well at Salina. Seems strange to me that they were voted out after this tournament. Kinda makes you wonder why then and not before.

We understand that Kansas is better. We get that . You are welcome to move to our state and we will wrestle you all year long. Before and after Salina.The state lines divide the state championships. We go to Oklahoma and wrestle a lot of tournaments. But we come home to wrestle our state tournament. You can do the same.We never decided to vote them out do to being scared.The rules are the rules. There is a reason why it is called STATE CHAMPIONSHIP,we have all kinds of tournaments for them to wrestle us. And you are more than welcome to come to all the others.

Why is this STILL being discussed?? i mean seriously??!!

then please explain to all of us WHY they were allowed to wrestle in it the last 2 years.

Very good question. My opinion is that they shouldn't get to jump state to compete in the state championships. Like I said they are welcome otherwise.I wish they had closer tournaments around them. But the state line is the state line in my opinion.No matter what other state you are from.

I respect our Kansas Board members and always will, they have a tough job and I wouldn't want to do it but I can't just sit back and read this anymore! It's a free country and I'm gonna make a vote as a Kansas citizen, probably won't mean squat but oh well! Let them wrestle, they have kansas cards, and sounds like they have been supporting KS wrestling all year then cut short!

So I say anybody from Kansas that supports them and knows these folks or have wrestled them IN Kansas need to light up this forum with support for what ever its worth! Good luck to your 8 wrestlers!

Thank you for that!!! It means a lot...and my boys thank you....and you can be assured I will not put my boys through this next year....just let them finish what they started!!! Light it up.......plz...let them have a shot then next yr we will know....and wrestle in the ok state tournament...even though our hearts are with our hougoton ks family....

I dont mean to sound sinister, BUT it is Hugoton right ?
For as long as you have been a part of it, you still dont know how to spell the club name and the Kansas town your wrestling in ? I guess I dont know all the story but seems odd, I dont know. Why does it always have to be someone putting someone else through something. Sometimes it is just what it is ! No hidden agenda, No personal Vendetta, No Kansan having it out for an Okie. It just is what it is .. A rule that is being inforced.
Sometimes on the way to work I speed, because I dont get caught does not mean that it is not wrong. And when I do get caught, I get a ticket and the rules are enforced. I dont think the po po lets everybody else pass and singles me out. I think well, I should probably have alot more of these and then I slowww it down a bit.

Did you know back in January you could not compete in State ?

Oh I am sorry did not know I was in a spelling bee....I was just excited....aand it was late.

If you knew in January, you had plenty of time to get signed up for the OK series............Then on Feb 18th, you decide to start asking for the public to help you wrestle in KS............

I hate it when people have to pull out the grammar card. I mean come on now....'inforced'.....really?

Makes Kansas look weak to me. No wonder Oklahoma has most the all americans in Tulsa every year. Kansas has alot of dodging if you ask me. That's why the highschoolers already avoid the kids state tourny, Scared of a loss on their record. I've read all year kids state don't matter, only High School. Well it looks like to me like it does matter, and people are scared. My daughter is wrestling Girls state in Missouri this Sat. and Girls state in Ks the next day on Sunday. I was also a colorado and ks kids champ growing up on a boarder town in west ks. Looking at our High School All American numbers it looks like we have been climbing down the ladder from '90' when it started. I know we had a National Champ and several All Americans in 91, and 11 All Americans with 3 National Champs in 92, but we are lucky to pull out one or two All Americans any more with a lot more 4 x State Champions now days then ever before. You Tell me is it helping Ks wresting?

tell shayden good luck, i know jeffrey did not like wrestling her lol.

On Jan 30 is when they held there meeting. We found out the first week of FEb where we sent a letter back requested they look at the whole thing and let us just finish this season. After getting that letter back is when i wanted to let as many people know. They were your by laws that let us wrestle for two years and let us start ,this season, this year and your by laws change that is going to kick us out( which i understand) all i am saying is that your own by laws state that any changes made will be for the next comen year.Or is it once it is voted on JAN 30 is IT LAW ?

The precedent it would set would cause a flood of out of state kids IMO. Where do you draw the line?

If the board would have said ok, I wouldn't lose a wink of sleep over it, but you have to draw the line, and the easiest line to draw is along the state borders..........

I agree that there are lots of HS kids that dodge the state tourney because of fear of a loss on their records. But don't take away from the many kids from KS that DON'T dodge anyone, and do the kids state series, FS GR state, and go to Schoolboy, Cadet, Junior duals, and Fargo, to wrestle the best in the country.

I don't think these 8 kids from OK would allow us to say "we ain't scared of noone, we let 8 kids form Guyman OK wrestle in our Kids state series".

The whole thing boils down to do we want our state tourney to be a Tulsa Nationals atmosphere? Participation would be way down if it was...........

I just have one question, and I don't know if it is relative. But at the beginning of the year we bought a card. What the heck was it a Kansas Wrestling card or a USA wrestling card?

Everyone keeps saying that these people bought a Kansas wrestling card so they should be allowed to wrestle, so I am confused.

They are USA wrestling card, which Kansas requires, for insurance purposes, for a kid to wrestle in our State series. It does say Kansas on the card next to the kids name, but I could order one for a kid that lives in new mexico, thru our club, and it will say KS on it I believe. We had a couple of friends from OK that came up to wrestle the classic last year and we got them cards thru our club. I believe they said KS on them as well.

Next year just wrestle in Kansas and wrestle Regionals and State in OK. All you have to do is pay 10 dollars a kid and have a roster with okwa. you could email Jerry Scott and or Carl Mize and see what you need to do. You can get their contact info from the ok seires web sight. I know several Kansas wrestlers done it this year. No USA card is needed in Oklahoma. Hope this helps you.