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Re: 4A Rankings! [Re: BigPin22] #196880 01/18/12 07:44 PM
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i am sorry to hear that. I saw him wrestle at Gardner and he looked in pain on his foot. We will be praying for it to heal up.


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Re: 4A Rankings! [Re: Vandeventer] #196906 01/19/12 01:13 PM
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Thanks for the love Eric. Ft. Scott has studs, Goebel and Tucker are unbelievable coaches. Vandeventer, he sucks! At least I don't wear sweater vests!

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Re: 4A Rankings! [Re: Sudawn Bradley] #197268 01/24/12 02:04 PM
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Re: 4A Rankings! [Re: Chief Renegade] #197273 01/24/12 04:10 PM
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Interesting that 2nd and 3rd teams are first year from 5a.


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Re: 4A Rankings! [Re: back in the day] #197284 01/24/12 06:10 PM
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Pittsburg 717
Bonner Springs 709
Maize South 697
Lenexa-St. James Academy 689
McPherson 683
De Soto 679
Kansas City-Sumner Academy 642
Paola 638
Buhler 636
Ottawa 633
Spring Hill 625
Tonganoxie 620
Basehor-Linwood 607
Rose Hill 582
Mulvane 581
Independence 570
Chanute 565
Augusta 560
El Dorado 557
Fort Scott 555
Towanda-Circle 545
Altamont-Labette County 544
Kansas City-Piper 537
Coffeyville-Field Kindley 517
Topeka-Hayden 500
Louisburg 492
Wellington 486
Abilene 484
Atchison 468
Baldwin 445
Ulysses 443
Wamego 434
Andale 428
Eudora 418
Parsons 393
Iola 386
Clearwater 384
Carbondale-Santa Fe Trail 363
Osawatomie 355
Girard 343
Chapman 338
Kansas City-Bishop Ward 331
Garnett-Anderson County 327
Pratt 327
Holton 326
Columbus 319
LaCygne-Prairie View 319
Concordia 313
Lindsborg-Smoky Valley 311
Clay Center Community 306
Meriden-Jefferson West 301
Perry-Lecompton 301
Wichita-Trinity Academy 299
Hugoton 295
Colby 291
Hoyt-Royal Valley 288
Larned 286
Nickerson 280
Baxter Springs 279
Hesston 266
Wichita-Collegiate 264
Cheney 261
Hiawatha 261
Haven 258


1. Andale #33
2. McPherson #5
3. Pittsburg #1
4. Colby #55
5. St. James Academy #4
6. Bonner Springs #2
7. Baldwin #30
8. Concordia #47
9. Clay Center #49
10. Chanute #17


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Re: 4A Rankings! [Re: back in the day] #197291 01/24/12 06:56 PM
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Originally Posted By: back in the day
Interesting that 2nd and 3rd teams are first year from 5a.



Yes, that is interesting.

Re: 4A Rankings! [Re: Cokeley] #197298 01/24/12 07:17 PM
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Thanks for the list Will, Just interesting that former 5a schools are toward the top at 4a -

Not sure why or even if it matters.


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Re: 4A Rankings! [Re: back in the day] #197304 01/24/12 07:58 PM
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It matters because everybody always cries about how hard it is to make it to state in 4a and that the 5a and 6a school have it made.

Re: 4A Rankings! [Re: lazyman_1] #197305 01/24/12 08:16 PM
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The five largest 4a schools are:

Pittsburg 717 (ranked 3rd)
Bonner Springs 709 (ranked 6th)
Maize South 697 (not ranked)
Lenexa-St. James Academy 689 (ranked 5th)
McPherson 683 (ranked 2nd)

all but Maize South are ranked in the top 6 in 4a.

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Re: 4A Rankings! [Re: BigPin22] #197307 01/24/12 08:31 PM
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Again, thanks for the "highlighted list" What does this mean?


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Re: 4A Rankings! [Re: back in the day] #197309 01/24/12 08:35 PM
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It means that some years, schools have good wrestling teams, and are ranked, and some years, schools have bad wrestling teams, and are not ranked. If you have a good wrestling team, no matter the class, you are going to be competitive in your respective class. Any of the ranked teams will be pretty competitive in any class, most of the time.

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Re: 4A Rankings! [Re: back in the day] #197313 01/24/12 10:13 PM
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I think he might be saying that the only good teams in 5A just went to 4A, which makes 5A even weaker. =)

Re: 4A Rankings! [Re: D.W.] #197930 01/31/12 04:37 PM
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I'm a little confused on why Wilson from RH isn't ranked at 126, he holds a record of 16-2. With his only two losses to Watters from Ark City and Mendenhall of Condcordia. He also defeated Trevor Kennedy of Garden City handily. No disrespect intended, but I think he deserves some recognition.

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Re: 4A Rankings! [Re: KansasFisher] #197967 01/31/12 06:33 PM
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Originally Posted By: KansasFisher
I'm a little confused on why Wilson from RH isn't ranked at 126, he holds a record of 16-2. With his only two losses to Watters from Ark City and Mendenhall of Condcordia. He also defeated Trevor Kennedy of Garden City handily. No disrespect intended, but I think he deserves some recognition.


I saw this about Wilson:

12/3 - He missed El Dorado
12/10 - He missed Douglas

He then won a tournament against a 16-13 guy in the final. He beat Melcher in the final the next week 5-3. At Derby he beat Kennedy on the front side 6-4 (Is that handily?). Then he injury defaulted to Kennedy on the back side. He lost to Mendenhall 13-0 and to Watters 16-0.

Does he have criteria over anybody in that 126 ranking?


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Re: 4A Rankings! [Re: Chief Renegade] #198007 01/31/12 11:35 PM
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Thanks for the clarification, no disrespect intended but i was also curious on how you could rank Mies over Perez at 113 when Perez beat Mies in the finals last year 12-0? Thanks for the feedback. We'll see how the bracket goes at Rose Hill this week when Kretzer, Wilson, Umsheid, Mendenhall, and Watters are all in the same bracket, it's going to be a good one.

Re: 4A Rankings! [Re: BigPin22] #198008 01/31/12 11:52 PM
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Pittsburg 5th in 5a last year and McPherson 15th. I know some things change in a year some stronger and some weaker. 5a and 4a going to be strong regardless. Not knocking other classes just speaking on 4a and 5a.

Re: 4A Rankings! [Re: KansasFisher] #198009 01/31/12 11:53 PM
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Originally Posted By: KansasFisher
Thanks for the clarification, no disrespect intended but i was also curious on how you could rank Mies over Perez at 113 when Perez beat Mies in the finals last year 12-0? Thanks for the feedback. We'll see how the bracket goes at Rose Hill this week when Kretzer, Wilson, Umsheid, Mendenhall, and Watters are all in the same bracket, it's going to be a good one.


Mies beat Perez in the finals of the Pratt Tourney in early December. I believe the score was 7-2.


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Re: 4A Rankings! [Re: RJW1] #198010 01/31/12 11:56 PM
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Alright thanks, i've been wondering about that the whole year. Like i said no disrespect intended, i just wasn't updated.

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Originally Posted By: KansasFisher
Thanks for the clarification, no disrespect intended but i was also curious on how you could rank Mies over Perez at 113 when Perez beat Mies in the finals last year 12-0? Thanks for the feedback. We'll see how the bracket goes at Rose Hill this week when Kretzer, Wilson, Umsheid, Mendenhall, and Watters are all in the same bracket, it's going to be a good one.


Mies beat Perez in the finals of the Pratt Tourney in early December. I believe the score was 7-2.

Mies is on a mission this year. I can't say that I have seen him wrestle, but the trees that he has chopped down while clearing a path to the State finals has been impressive.


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