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6 & under state official #200416 02/21/12 09:08 PM
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Could anyone tell me the name of the older official on the 1st and 2nd place mat during finals? He was a tall man with white hair.

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Was it the tall BIG man with white hair?


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Yes

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That was probably Mark Anderson. And it wasn't 6u state, it was 6u world intergalactic cosmospherical olympic championships.........Or at least that is what some people thought........

Re: 6 & under state official [Re: doug747] #200428 02/21/12 09:58 PM
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Ok. Thanks! I noticed he had a rough evening officiating and was just curious who he was.

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By rough, I don't know what you're saying. You can rest assured, that Mr. Anderson's calls were made without reservation. Like him or not, he makes the call and it is hard to argue with someone that is confident in his judgements.......

Re: 6 & under state official [Re: doug747] #200433 02/21/12 10:14 PM
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Originally Posted By: doug747
That was probably Mark Anderson. And it wasn't 6u state, it was 6u world intergalactic cosmospherical olympic championships.........Or at least that is what some people thought........


Yep, we noticed the same thing even in the first round. Funny stuff I tell ya!

Re: 6 & under state official [Re: doug747] #200436 02/21/12 10:16 PM
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Originally Posted By: doug747
By rough, I don't know what you're saying. You can rest assured, that Mr. Anderson's calls were made without reservation. Like him or not, he makes the call and it is hard to argue with someone that is confident in his judgements.......


And 6u are the hardest group of all groups to officiate. I agree with Doug, Mr. Anderson calls good matches.

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Re: 6 & under state official [Re: Beeson] #200437 02/21/12 10:20 PM
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I just noticed numerous times he was in the faces of parents or coaches.

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You know how 6u parents are...they should not have been matside so he could be in their faces. They should have been in the stands.


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Re: 6 & under state official [Re: Beeson] #200439 02/21/12 10:21 PM
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There was a good group of officials on the mats our kids wrestled on. One official that needs to be commended, was on Mat 1. Nathan Butler did a good job. He is what we need, young official learning the ropes. And if all officials were as big and ugly as him and Anderson, NO ONE would argue a call..........

Re: 6 & under state official [Re: doug747] #200441 02/21/12 10:30 PM
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Well its my understanding coaches usually coach from the mat not the stands, and the parent was having a private conversation in the stands when he jumped them.

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I agree Mark did a great job so did the young Butler and if Mark did get after someone don't worry about it he is a bit of a blow hard sometimes:) The 70's were hard on him...


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Re: 6 & under state official [Re: Houchin] #200446 02/21/12 10:51 PM
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If this was on Mat 5, I think I saw the altercation. It started on the mat, then a coach or parent kept running their mouth on the way off the mat. I can't remember what the coach was arguing about, but it was a clearcut example of a coach/parent not knowing the rules. Mark informed the coach of that, but the coach didn't buy it. It was something very simple.

I would say this happened early to mid afternoon..........Private message me what the controversy was, and maybe that will remind me of what the argument was.......

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Not sure of the ref.. mat 1 tall dark man! Seen there was an altercation in the hall way never could get a story from anyone!

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Arguing a call in a 6u match....think about the absurdity of doing such a thing.

Mr. Anderson knows the rules, in several languages most likely, and I wouldn't be trying to change his mind.

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The problems I saw were all during the finals on the 1st & 2nd place mat. No one is doubting that he knows the rules, I'm sure he does but I don't care for the way he treated the people.

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Originally Posted By: Houchin
The problems I saw were all during the finals on the 1st & 2nd place mat. No one is doubting that he knows the rules, I'm sure he does but I don't care for the way he treated the people.

Mark is usually short and to the point some people misunderstand that as being rude.

His job is to call the match, not greet everyone with a smile as they enter.

It gets really old when coaches try to challenge a call, by running out onto the mat and yelling. If they knew the rules as good as they thought, they would know the correct procedure to challenge a call.

The above scenario is worse in 6u matches and novice tournaments


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This has been discussed before. The biggest problem is that too many coaches dont know the rules, and even more parents don't. This is a good official and I would bet dollars to donuts that he was right.


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Re: 6 & under state official [Re: Beeson] #200525 02/22/12 01:49 AM
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What many parents do not realize is that Mark Anderson has many, many years of accomplishments and is FILA qualified to ref. Olumpic Trials/Olympics as well as International competition.

Pity the parents that thought their calls were "better than Mark's." This man is a KS officiating attribute!


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