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4A Bicentennial Center #201253 02/26/12 06:09 PM
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I attended the 4A state tournament this past weekend. I believe that we are not filling the center enough. The venue is so big that you do not get the atmosphere that we had back at Wichita. I think that if they want to keep 4A separated then we should move to a smaller venue in the eastern part of the state. Then, we can draw more support from the eastern fans. My thought is we should move it to White Auditorium in Emporia (or some where similar). Then, we can get it packed like they do at Fort Hays for the 123A tourney. Would like to hear anyone else’s thoughts….

Re: 4A Bicentennial Center [Re: rev randy] #201254 02/26/12 06:15 PM
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Yes venue is not good... Move 4A, 5A, and 6A back together...
Also I beleive their was complaints about the announcers last year so they had the same one's this year and same mistakes..

Also Regional Disparity... but I might be bias there...

Re: 4A Bicentennial Center [Re: Kevin Cathcart] #201290 02/26/12 08:35 PM
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Way to many mistakes with announcers. Wrong winners, stumbling names and records. Talking too often during finals. Also if there was a fire, the people sitting on a step would be the first to get up and get out.

Re: 4A Bicentennial Center [Re: wrestlingAlum] #201292 02/26/12 08:45 PM
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agreed i think it needs to be somewhere more centrally located like Emporia or Wichita i don't think we should go back with 5A and 6A that would be another day added to the tournament.

Re: 4A Bicentennial Center [Re: rev randy] #201295 02/26/12 09:21 PM
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Originally Posted By: rev randy
Then, we can get it packed like they do at Fort Hays for the 123A tourney.

I don't know if it was because the finals were on a Friday this year but there was certainly a bunch of fans disguised as empty seats this year for finals at Hays!

Re: 4A Bicentennial Center [Re: Bad MaamaJamma] #201304 02/26/12 11:09 PM
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Combined 4A5A6A trournament at the Ks. Coliseum was only 2 days---where did 3 days come from?


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Re: 4A Bicentennial Center [Re: sportsfan02] #201305 02/26/12 11:17 PM
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Didn't attend the 321A at FHSU, but heard they were much more hospitable than they were in Salina-similiar to the combined 456A in Wichita a few years ago. Like the location in Salina-centrally located-but need to make some improvements for sure!

Re: 4A Bicentennial Center [Re: WillyM] #201307 02/26/12 11:33 PM
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Originally Posted By: Contrarian
Combined 4A5A6A trournament at the Ks. Coliseum was only 2 days---where did 3 days come from?

Because the venues currently available do not have the capacity to handle three classes at once.

Re: 4A Bicentennial Center [Re: JDCase] #201308 02/26/12 11:35 PM
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I did hear the announcer say " finally a 126 pounder with some intelligence". Prices at concession and hospitality room were worse than the fair. Official did a descent job but they did blow alot of calls, seemed a little whistle happy when ever a kid appeared to be headed out of bounds. Over all it was a good tourny.

Re: 4A Bicentennial Center [Re: copeland11] #201311 02/27/12 12:14 AM
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Whoever heard of a hospitality room charging coaches? Might as well called it a concession stand for coaches!!

Re: 4A Bicentennial Center [Re: JDCase] #201313 02/27/12 12:29 AM
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I agree they should all be together like they were 10yrs ago. Wrestling fans are missing out on so many matches with them all being separated. The wrestlers have other friends matches they are missing out on, plus the energy is so much more intense when they are together. Let's unite Kansas wrestling once again and give the wrestlers more support.

Re: 4A Bicentennial Center [Re: Blast Double1] #201326 02/27/12 12:58 AM
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I believe it is also easier for the different colleges to come view the wrestlers when they are just at two venues instead of three. I also agree with PistolPete that there was a lot more energy when 456A were together...we need that again.

Re: 4A Bicentennial Center [Re: copeland11] #201333 02/27/12 01:47 AM
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Originally Posted By: copeland11
I did hear the announcer say " finally a 126 pounder with some intelligence". Prices at concession and hospitality room were worse than the fair. Official did a descent job but they did blow alot of calls, seemed a little whistle happy when ever a kid appeared to be headed out of bounds. Over all it was a good tourny.



The PA announcer said that!!!???

Re: 4A Bicentennial Center [Re: Holliday Hays] #201344 02/27/12 02:34 AM
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We were 4A and went to the Bicentennial Center my son's freshman year. I hated it. Terrible place. We are now 3A, I love Hays. I love the facility and the staff are nice. The town apprieciates us. And, its a long drive for me. I don't want 3A to leave. Unless Kansas builds a new place like the Fargo Dome or something, the current set up is not going to change. In other words, the people of Kansas are going to have to be willing to pay to change things - not happening in this political environment.

Re: 4A Bicentennial Center [Re: John Johnson] #201362 02/27/12 05:03 AM
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I couldn't agree with you more John Johnson. It would be nice if Salina had a Fargo Dome type venue that would accommodate 16 mats and all the fans. A large centrally located venue that appreciate the opportunity to have wrestlers and fans in their city.

Re: 4A Bicentennial Center [Re: Holliday Hays] #201381 02/27/12 12:53 PM
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The hair brain statement of the day might have been, and I don't remember which finalist it was, "so and so, with a 38.6 grade point average.........." Yes, he said 38.6

Re: 4A Bicentennial Center [Re: doug747] #201392 02/27/12 02:10 PM
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As strictly a fan and my lack of knowledge of the "rolling team score" i find it strange that we can't have a rolling team score posted after every match on the scoreboard. This creates the excitement the fans enjoy and shows all wrestlers the importance of each match, frontside or backside. Imagine a football game that the scoeboard was only updated 45 minutes after a touchdown. I don't claim to have any knowledge in this matter but in the computor" age,it has to be avaiable. I bet, i ask 20 times during the 4A tournament what the team score was because i knew the one on the board was ALWAYS a round or 2 behind.Help this old man out and post the rolling team score. Thanks, Matt

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Re: 4A Bicentennial Center [Re: Bad MaamaJamma] #201396 02/27/12 02:16 PM
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[[i think it needs to be somewhere more centrally located like Emporia or Wichita]]

Let me guess: You're from Eastern Kansas. You can always tell when people think Emporia is centrally located.

Re: 4A Bicentennial Center [Re: windjammer] #201403 02/27/12 02:46 PM
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I wasn't there, but announcers get tired also. And, Salina is about as central as you can get. There were complaints about the Coliseum for being TOO crowded. Remember the comments about the security Nazi's from the mid 90's? Personally, I would love to see it get back to a 4-5-6A tournament. That was special. Now, the 4A tournament feels like another large regular season tournament with a little pomp thrown in.


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Re: 4A Bicentennial Center [Re: Shelstin] #201404 02/27/12 02:49 PM
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Trackwrestling to keep the team scores updated.
My 17 year old son would love to announce next year! Wow!!!


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