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Re: Classification Changes?? [Re: Jay Johnston] #208060 09/05/12 12:47 PM
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Well said coach.


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Jay, don't take the bait. WillyM or Contrarian as he was formerly called, has tried to do this in many areas. A few years ago he was the expert on all things Lansing, now it's Leavenworth. It's not worth your time.

You are doing great things at Leavenworth. Keep it up!!

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Re: Classification Changes?? [Re: Jay Johnston] #208063 09/05/12 04:36 PM
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I have no bone to pick. I lived in Leavenworth City for 11 years prior to moving to Lansing 19 years ago. My middle son graduated from Leavenworth HS in 1986. Have watched a lot of LHS sports over the years. You have to be blind and deaf to not recognise that they are not competitive with those bigger Sunflower League schools. For 30 years I have heard the arguement--excuses- about the turnover of their athletes because of their military connection and family transfers. I did not make up that set of facts. Give the student athletes a break, especially FBers (I think LHS has had more head FB coaches in the last 30 years than wins)(Coach Hogan and BB is the only consistent winning LHS team--and they do play good BB)). Either this year or in the near future LHS will be forced down to 5A. They are aleady scheduling games/events with 5A and 4A schools. Slotting in another conference will give some habitual LHS losing teams a chance to feel the success of winning.


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Predictions...

4A:
Andover Central
Goddard
Goodland

5A:
McPherson
St. James Academy


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Re: Classification Changes?? [Re: Chief Renegade] #208067 09/05/12 08:41 PM
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Does anybody know McPherson enrollment this year?

Re: Classification Changes?? [Re: westwrestling] #208068 09/05/12 10:45 PM
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I will predict Bonner Springs to 5A I guess. FYI . . . Wishful thinking might be influencing my predictions. Lol!!


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Re: Classification Changes?? [Re: GregMann] #208072 09/05/12 11:52 PM
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Originally Posted By: GregMann
It is anticipated that Kansas' overall enrollment will be slightly greater this year than last.


Last year's enrollment, as recorded by KSHSAA 141,405.


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Re: Classification Changes?? [Re: Cokeley] #208079 09/06/12 12:59 PM
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In the event that the 32nd 5A or 6A school is tied in enrollment, what is the criteria for splitting them up?


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Re: Classification Changes?? [Re: Chief Renegade] #208082 09/06/12 02:43 PM
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Originally Posted By: Chief Renegade
In the event that the 32nd 5A or 6A school is tied in enrollment, what is the criteria for splitting them up?


Tie breaker is previous year's enrollment.


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Re: Classification Changes?? [Re: sportsfan02] #208084 09/06/12 03:39 PM
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Anyone know where they can find The Kansas Equitable Classification Plan. Would like to read the details and procedures of the complete plan--and the how and why it was developed. The extract on the Sept Agenda is just an outline.
Implementation of such a plan with so many societal variables will surely cause some major school classification changes. May expect bigger inner city schools to move down, more affluent smaller schools (and possibly private and parochial schools)to move up.

Wonder if they will keep the 32-32-64-etc etc splits? Might be a good time to consider changing the scheme of splits---at least for the three largest classes (changing the 32-32-64 has been argued, cussed and discussed on this forum since day one).

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Re: Classification Changes?? [Re: WillyM] #208088 09/06/12 04:31 PM
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http://kshsaa.org/Public/PDF/PrivatePublicStudy.pdf


Schools with a current enrollment of 690-740 are in the mix for 4A or 5A. Without knowing the exact number for about 10 schools there is almost no way to know which classification these "cusp" schools will be in this year.

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Re: Classification Changes?? [Re: Cokeley] #208090 09/06/12 07:55 PM
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The student enrollment count for KSHSAA is taken 0n 20 Sept---2 more weeks. Classifcations will probably be announced that weekend---maybe not until monday the 24th.


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Re: Classification Changes?? [Re: WillyM] #208104 09/07/12 05:17 AM
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Originally Posted By: WillyM
The student enrollment count for KSHSAA is taken 0n 20 Sept---2 more weeks. Classifcations will probably be announced that weekend---maybe not until monday the 24th.


Classifications will be announced on September 27th according to the KSHSAA Calendar.


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Re: Classification Changes?? [Re: Cokeley] #208105 09/07/12 05:27 AM
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SCHOOL 2012 2013

Topeka-Highland Park 753 ???
Andover Central 747 730
Goddard-Eisenhower 740 900 (estimated by Goddard source)
SM-Bishop Miege 740 ???
Winfield 720 ???

4A Cut off 2012

Pittsburg 717 730
Bonner Springs 709 710
Maize South 697 ???
Lenexa-St. James Academy 689 730
McPherson 683 ???
De Soto 679 700
Goddard 903 680 (As reported by Tommy Boy)


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Re: Classification Changes?? [Re: Cokeley] #208109 09/07/12 05:22 PM
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If SJA is 5A, that class will be a dogfight. Even if AC and GD go 4A.

Ark City
Newton
SJA
STA
Seaman

Add some of these teams...PT, AC, GD, MV, EMP, HAY, KMC!


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Re: Classification Changes?? [Re: Chief Renegade] #208192 09/13/12 01:32 PM
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If SJA and Andover Central is 4a, that will be interesting

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Originally Posted By: KansasFisher
If SJA and Andover Central is 4a, that will be interesting


4A 120 gets interesting if SJA, AC, GD and AN are there! As it stands now, 5A 120 may be the toughest weight.


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Re: Classification Changes?? [Re: Chief Renegade] #208249 09/18/12 08:25 PM
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Sounds like Goodland will be a Class 4A School with around 280 students (unofficially). Haven & Holcomb will be on the edge from what it sounds like. Any updates lately?

Re: Classification Changes?? [Re: wksfan2010] #208290 09/21/12 11:10 AM
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Based on the latest rumor numbers being tossed around after yesterday's reporting I predict:

DeSoto, Bonner Springs & Pittsburg - 4A for sure

Goddard, Bishop Miege, Andover Central & Maize South - 5A for sure

It looks like the 4A cutoff is going to be in the 725 - 735 area.
I don't know all of the schools. It does amaze me that the schools had to report their enrollment yesterday and it takes a week to sort them?? Maybe in 1980 but surely not in 2012.


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I will volunteer to count!


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