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Re: 321A Rankings! [Re: KAWKS38] #212667 01/27/13 09:44 PM
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He wrestled 132 at the toc


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Hmm..I'm guessing Juennemann is going to be ranked now..but I'm not sure if he should be ranked over Ross..if you watch on open spaces Ross is dominating with take downs but a big mistake by Ross and good timing by Juennemann gave him the fall..so I don't think that makes him a better wrestler..

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But totally my opinion of course! I'm not the ranker and we will know who is truly better by regionals!

Re: 321A Rankings! [Re: KAWKS38] #212753 01/28/13 07:12 PM
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Originally Posted By: KAWKS38
Hmm..I'm guessing Juennemann is going to be ranked now..but I'm not sure if he should be ranked over Ross..if you watch on open spaces Ross is dominating with take downs but a big mistake by Ross and good timing by Juennemann gave him the fall..so I don't think that makes him a better wrestler..


Yes, Ross pinned himself in his own cradle. It happens. Juennemann is a quality wrestler and they will probably meet again at regionals for the rubber match. The only other time those two met was at Hoxie in the finals. Ross won a 7-5 barnburner.

Ranking aren't that important anyway but seeding at the Norton Regional will be.

How about the Pheifer kid from Hill City winning 120 this last weekend. Unranked, beat Addington from Norton, Keller from St. Francis, then Migchelbrink from Rawlins Co. in the finals. Threw in Jergens from Scott City, Rains from Oakley, Freiling from Smith Center, Juenemann from Phillipsburg and Houser from Plainville - that is a State type bracket at the Norton Regional. WOW! Every one of those wrestlers have 20 wins.
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Re: 321A Rankings! [Re: Chiefs] #212764 01/28/13 09:33 PM
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any idea if Gilliand is back for regionals? If he doesn't wrestle P-ville should not be the favorite.

Re: 321A Rankings! [Re: Chiefs] #212766 01/28/13 10:07 PM
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Originally Posted By: Chiefs
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Hmm..I'm guessing Juennemann is going to be ranked now..but I'm not sure if he should be ranked over Ross..if you watch on open spaces Ross is dominating with take downs but a big mistake by Ross and good timing by Juennemann gave him the fall..so I don't think that makes him a better wrestler..


Yes, Ross pinned himself in his own cradle. It happens. Juennemann is a quality wrestler and they will probably meet again at regionals for the rubber match. The only other time those two met was at Hoxie in the finals. Ross won a 7-5 barnburner.


It's matches like this that make doing rankings even more difficult. A win is a win and Juenemann is deserving of a ranking.

Re: 321A Rankings! [Re: Chiefs] #212767 01/28/13 10:15 PM
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Originally Posted By: Chiefs

How about the Pheifer kid from Hill City winning 120 this last weekend. Unranked, beat Addington from Norton, Keller from St. Francis, then Migchelbrink from Rawlins Co. in the finals. Threw in Jergens from Scott City, Rains from Oakley, Freiling from Smith Center, Juenemann from Phillipsburg and Houser from Plainville - that is a State type bracket at the Norton Regional. WOW! Every one of those wrestlers have 20 wins.


I've almost decided to just throw a darts at a bracket to determine who will make it out of the Norton Regional in this bracket. Who ever is having the best weekend on February 15th and 16th will be going to Hays, which is kind of a shame because I have those wrestlers ranked from #3 to #11 in my spread sheet. Only four will go to State, but they should all have a shot at winning a championship.

Re: 321A Rankings! [Re: Wyatt Bechtel] #212775 01/29/13 12:37 AM
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"Who ever is having the best weekend on February 15th and 16th will be going to Hays"

You are exactly right. Day two.....will be very interesting.

Where do I make my reservations?!?!?!? cool

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Re: 321A Rankings! [Re: Wyatt Bechtel] #212788 01/29/13 02:05 AM
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Originally Posted By: Wyatt Bechtel
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Hmm..I'm guessing Juennemann is going to be ranked now..but I'm not sure if he should be ranked over Ross..if you watch on open spaces Ross is dominating with take downs but a big mistake by Ross and good timing by Juennemann gave him the fall..so I don't think that makes him a better wrestler..


Yes, Ross pinned himself in his own cradle. It happens. Juennemann is a quality wrestler and they will probably meet again at regionals for the rubber match. The only other time those two met was at Hoxie in the finals. Ross won a 7-5 barnburner.


It's matches like this that make doing rankings even more difficult. A win is a win and Juenemann is deserving of a ranking.


Of course he deserves a ranking! And with Solko out of 113 there was need of a new wrestler in the rankings anyways.

Re: 321A Rankings! [Re: KAWKS38] #212826 01/29/13 03:39 PM
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Here are the updated 321A Rankings for this week.

Re: 321A Rankings! [Re: Wyatt Bechtel] #212827 01/29/13 03:40 PM
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1. Plainville
2. Hoisington
3. Norton
4. Scott City
5. Hoxie
6. Oberlin
7. Phillipsburg
8. Marysville
9. ACCHS
10. Chaparral
10. Smith Center

106
1. Ty Nienke-11-Ellsworth
2. Kyle Witmer-12-Phillipsburg
3. Caysean Campbell-10-Norton
4. Chris Deters-9-Marysville
5. Cale Rogers-9-Smith Center
6. Gunner Kerns-9-Plainville

113
1. Trey Francka-12-Chase Co.
2. Josh Goepfert-12-Marysville
3. Brady Lowell-12-Republic Co.
4. Troy Juenemann-10-Oberlin
5. Ethan Ross-11-Norton
6. Alex Cavanaugh-9-Silver Lake

120
1. Haegan Schaefer-10-Silver Lake
2. Logan Bowen-10-ACCHS
3. Gage Pfeifer-12-Hill City
4. Macrae Migchelbrink-10-Rawlins Co.
5. James Jurgens-10-Scott City
6. Riley Juenemann-11-Phillipsburg

126
1. Brandon Ball-11-Hoisington
2. Alex Kough-12-Scott City
3. Alec Hager-11-Norton
4. Willy Dieckmann-10-ACCHS
5. Trevor Axelson-12-Plainville
6. Clint Rogers-11-Smith Center

132
1. John Risewick-12-Norton
2. Dayton Dreher-11-Oberlin
3. Caleb Studley-12-Phillipsburg
4. Daniel Melcher-12-Herington 
5. Keegan Amos-12-Holcomb
6. Colton Stalford-10-Caney Valley

138
1. Brogan Humphrey-11-Fredonia
2. Kasey Biddle-12-Central Burden
3. Greg Tooley-10-St. Marys
4. James Landoll-12-Marysville
5. Michael Dusin-11-Phillipsburg
6. Jared Tallent-10-Norton

145
1. Tagen Lambotte-11-Rossville
2. Chance Demel-12-Hoisington
3. Triston Hurla-11-St. Marys
4. Tanner Niemczyk-11-Beloit
5. Nick Sells-12-Russell
6. Gavin Lively-9-Norton

152
1. Alex Thibault-12-Halstead
2. Gage Younger-12-Ellis
3. Lucas McMichael-9-Central-Burden
4. Brody Carroll-12-Marion
5. Kade Brown-12-Oberlin
6. Zack Duwe-12-Chaparral

160
1. Calvin Ochs-12-Hoxie
2. Warren Kropp-11-Scott City
3. Bowe Behymer-11-Beloit 
4. Dylan Wiesner-11-Plainville
5. Taylor Schuetz-12-ACCHS
6. Cody Faulkender-11-Oakley

170
1. Jared Johnson-12-Pleasant Ridge
2. Nick Wuthnow-11-Salina Sacred Heart
3. Jason Berkgren-12-Oakley
4. Derek Bayless-12-Caney Valley
5. Dusty Cook-12-Cherryvale
6. Cameron Staples-12-WaKeeney-Trego

182
1. Kyler Atwood-12-Smith Center
2. Gavin Grater-11-Riley Co.
3. Zach Gienger-12-St. Francis
4. Clay Cosand-12-Mankato
5. Andrew Malin-12-Plainville
6. Steve Yergey-Dible-12-Hoxie 

195
1. Harrison Gilliland-12-Plainville
2. Brandon Salmans-12-Hoxie
3. Tristan Speer-10-Doniphan West
4. Tyler Edelman-12-Sabetha
5. Ben Smithey-12-Chaparral
6. Kaleb Gillis-12-Herrington

220
1. Ryker Greenbaum-12-Douglass
2. Cayton Janousek-12-Hoisington 
3. Evan Slater-12-Marion
4. Channing Fortin-12-Oberlin
5. Kane Washington-12-Hoxie
6. Gus Farthing-11-Burlington

285
1. Clay Wilcox-12-Chaparral
2. Bradey Chard-12-Plainville
3. Michael McEachern-12-Scott City
4. Tyrell Thiessen-12-Hillsboro
5. Mychal Kolterman-12-Onaga
6. Cody Cooper-12-Rossville

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Re: 321A Rankings! [Re: Wyatt Bechtel] #212851 01/29/13 07:57 PM
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Lively of Norton beat Desair of Plainville this past weekend at 145. The pin time is incorrect. It happened late in the 3rd after Lively was winning the match. I am sure they have matched up previously and I do not know those results, but I do know the fall times are wrong most the time in the brackets for the WKTOC.


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Re: 321A Rankings! [Re: N. Broeckelman] #212863 01/29/13 09:25 PM
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Originally Posted By: N. Broeckelman
Lively of Norton beat Desair of Plainville this past weekend at 145. The pin time is incorrect. It happened late in the 3rd after Lively was winning the match. I am sure they have matched up previously and I do not know those results, but I do know the fall times are wrong most the time in the brackets for the WKTOC.


Thanks for catching that. I was looking at the brackets while the Western Kansas TOC was still going on and it may have been entered incorrectly on TrackWrestling at the time. That happened on some brackets I was following at Fredonia this weekend, too.

I guess Coach Johnson didn't catch it either when I sent the rankings to him. I'll get it updated.

Re: 321A Rankings! [Re: Wyatt Bechtel] #212865 01/29/13 10:25 PM
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Lively's match was originally entered incorrectly. The error was caught and corrected towards the end of the tournament.


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Re: 321A Rankings! [Re: GregMann] #212884 01/30/13 02:43 AM
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Lively's match was originally entered incorrectly. The error was caught and corrected towards the end of the tournament.


Good to know I wasn't seeing things when I looked at the brackets during the finals on Saturday. I guess I'll just have to go back to the results a day or two later to make sure they were entered correctly. wink

Re: 321A Rankings! [Re: Wyatt Bechtel] #212949 01/30/13 11:14 PM
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Looks like Justin Wagner from ACCHS is healthy and back. took second last week at JC and was a state placer at 126 last year. Could be a force in this bracket if he stays healthy.


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Re: 321A Rankings! [Re: DeMaranville] #212965 01/31/13 01:21 AM
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Why isn't Luke Plummer ranked in 182lbs? That's just plain stupid!! U beat no.3 in 6a and u fall out of the rankings?

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Kyler atwood- 3rd in 2012
Gavin Grater- 2nd in 4a in 2012
Zach Geinger- SQ and has beaten Yergey-Dible and Malin
Clay Cosand- SQ
Andrew Malin- Beat Yergey- Dible
Steve Yergey-Dible- 4th in 2012

thats a tough list to get on.


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Re: 321A Rankings! [Re: voorhies23] #212988 01/31/13 06:45 AM
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Originally Posted By: voorhies23
Why isn't Luke Plummer ranked in 182lbs? That's just plain stupid!! U beat no.3 in 6a and u fall out of the rankings?


The reason Plummer has fallen out of the rankings is largely because of this group of wrestlers:
3. Zach Gienger-12-St. Francis
4. Clay Cosand-12-Mankato
5. Andrew Malin-12-Plainville

They all have wins over returning state placers in 321A, they all have wins over other ranked wrestlers, and all of them are previous state qualifiers. Plummer is also a state qualifier with wins over ranked wrestlers in other classes, but he doesn't have a win over a returning state placer, which is the difference that I have between him and that group.

Then right in front of Plummer you have the two returning state placers that they have their wins against:
6. Steve Yergey-Dible-12-Hoxie
7. Levi Huneke-12-Sabetha

Just like Plummer all of these wrestlers have only lost to quality opponents who are or have been ranked this season in 321A or the other classes, or in Gienger's case he has a loss to the #3 ranked wrestler in Colorado.

Plummer is currently sitting at 8th in the rankings, but I could definitely see him placing 3rd in this bracket, maybe 2nd if Grater and Atwood end up on the same side. However, because he was not able to finish the Newton Tournament or participate in the State Tournament last season I really don't have the criteria to move him above any of those wrestlers. I also don't know of any common opponents that Plummer and that group may have wrestled this season.

I hope this explains why I have the rankings like I do.

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Got it, I just think he is better than 8th. I saw him give the 182lbs state champ Ty Lowe all he wanted several times last year. And lowe was pretty much unstopable last year. Losing only to 195 champion.

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