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5A Regionals #214142 02/14/13 10:59 AM
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Appears to be a pretty even distribution

Andover Central Region - #1 & #6 ranked teams, 23 ranked wrestlers, 4 - #1 ranked wrestlers - Toughest bracket 120 with #1,3,5,6

Great Bend Region - #4,5,&8 ranked teams, 22 ranked wrestlers, 2-#1 - toughest bracket 195 with #1,2,5

Mill Valley Region - #2,3 ranked teams, 23 ranked wrestlers, 4-#1 - toughest bracket 113 with #1,3,4

Topeka Seaman Region - #7,9,10 ranked teams, 16 ranked wrestlers, 4-#1 - toughest bracket 285 with #1,3,4

Re: 5A Regionals [Re: Scooter] #214151 02/14/13 01:57 PM
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Any info on scheduled start times for Saturday 6A and 5A Regionals.


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Originally Posted By: Scooter
Appears to be a pretty even distribution

Andover Central Region - #1 & #6 ranked teams, 23 ranked wrestlers, 4 - #1 ranked wrestlers - Toughest bracket 120 with #1,3,5,6

Great Bend Region - #4,5,&8 ranked teams, 22 ranked wrestlers, 2-#1 - toughest bracket 195 with #1,2,5

Mill Valley Region - #2,3 ranked teams, 23 ranked wrestlers, 4-#1 - toughest bracket 113 with #1,3,4

Topeka Seaman Region - #7,9,10 ranked teams, 16 ranked wrestlers, 4-#1 - toughest bracket 285 with #1,3,4



Wow, that's pretty cool. Now that's about the most balanced that I have ever seen the 5A regionals. It's about time. The Wichita and Central regionals are usually grossly unfair.

Re: 5A Regionals [Re: XGHSWC] #214258 02/15/13 02:06 AM
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Yea, 5A is tough at the top but this is the frustrating thing about it... there were two brackets tonight with JUST four competitors. That means you go 0-2 and make it to state. MANY, MANY opens. This did not happen in 4A.


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I have to disagree with scooter about the toughest weight in the Mill Valley Regional. 120 in my opinion

Re: 5A Regionals [Re: bug] #214285 02/15/13 11:13 AM
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Originally Posted By: bug
I have to disagree with scooter about the toughest weight in the Mill Valley Regional. 120 in my opinion


I just did it based on ranked kids only, but I agree with 120 being tougher, off the top of my head, Marx should still be ranked, and Pelfrey is really tough.

Re: 5A Regionals [Re: Cokeley] #214286 02/15/13 11:24 AM
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Originally Posted By: Cokeley
Yea, 5A is tough at the top but this is the frustrating thing about it... there were two brackets tonight with JUST four competitors. That means you go 0-2 and make it to state. MANY, MANY opens. This did not happen in 4A.


BE CAREFUL COKELEY!!!! The first rule of 5a Regional Wrestling is one does not talk about 5a Regional Wrestling (notice no one responded)

Re: 5A Regionals [Re: Lucas Baker] #214289 02/15/13 12:26 PM
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He's back...

Re: 5A Regionals [Re: Cokeley] #214374 02/16/13 04:28 PM
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Will I don't have a up to date rule book but I know back in the day a 4 man bracket scored differently then a 8 man. Being a 4 man it does not have uneeded byes so the points are scored differently. And two advancement points where they shouldnt be there definitely could change a team race outcome. I know that a certain tournament recently got scored incorrectly because of the program being loaded incorrectly.

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Re: 5A Regionals [Re: Lucas Baker] #214382 02/16/13 07:59 PM
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So what. Just looked at a 321A regional with a bracket with only 8 wrestlers----Track even said that weight class was an eight man tournament.

OPENs all over every regional in every class. Just did a numbers finger drill. Of 1736 possible opening slots in all brackets in all regionals, there were 385 first round "OPENS"----or in otherwords 1351 filled opening round slots. That's a 78 per cent fill (1351 divided by 1736== 78%. Opening round fiil slots by class was 89% fill in 6A, 84% fill in 5A, 68% fill in 4A. 321A regionals show more filled slots in a 16 bracket tournaments--not many, but a few--but they have 22-23 schools per regional tournament.

Another interesting stat: Using opening round numbers of wrestlers in each class---6A actually qualifies 57% to State (224 of 393 wrestlers), 5A qualifies 58% to 5tate (224 of 383 wrestlers), and 4A qualifies 39% to State (224 of 575 wrestlers). Not as bad as the old statements on State qualifiers of 50% in 6a and 5a, or 25% in 4a. 6a and 5a thus have less than the 2 to 1 advantage claimed by many 4a fans---but stiil a lot of inequality in qualifying to State.

If my numbers are wrong it must have been my calculator's fault.

More to follow!!

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Maybe you could fill them with unattached wrestlers. Is that an option to fill up regional brackets in all divisions?

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Results for ALL 5A REGIONALS are on the Mill Valley Results Thread.


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I would like to congratulate SMS Raiders on qualifying 6 to state, and finishing 5th at a though 5a regional (Mill Valley). All the boys wrestled hard and left everything they had on the mat. We were close to qualifying 8-10, boys, but things just did not fall our way yesterday. But I'm proud of all the boys!!

I would also like to congratulate Reis Humphrey on receiving the 5A Regional Wrestler of the Year award. Coach Rios, all those hours you put in finally paid off. Your an outstanding coach and we appreciate everything you do for us!!


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Re: 5A Regionals [Re: Cokeley] #214711 02/18/13 02:12 AM
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Originally Posted By: Cokeley
Yea, 5A is tough at the top but this is the frustrating thing about it... there were two brackets tonight with JUST four competitors. That means you go 0-2 and make it to state. MANY, MANY opens. This did not happen in 4A.



It wasnt that easy, they still had to weight in.


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