Maybe this question has come up before and I just missed it. How do four freshmen at the 106# class get ranked over 2 of last years state qualifiers? I have watched 5 of the top 6 wrestle. I know my opinion doesnt matter, but i would have the upper classmen 1 and 2. I watched this class very close last year. No. 5 and 6 are very tough competitors even against some of the ranked 113#ers, as they wrestled at that weight at Kids State last year.
I am not positive, but I dont think there were any head to head matches last year between the freshmen and the upperclassman. Just curious.

Well that must be a rhetorical question, because the answer is a no brainer.
5A is already the toughest class without 6A and will be even more once again if Heights goes down. 6A is probably almost as tough.

Well I would be interested in that because Hernandez is at SE.

Chief Saul Ortiz is in 11th grade

Really? Why did he make the move? If you mind explaining .. & hernandez beat rylan in 2012 when rylan was weighing about 90lbs & it was only by 2 points in overtime.

It's a good point Tyson. #5 could definitely be ranked higher. #6 lost to a good 8th grader but also wrestled Mainus very close and had one win over Pemberton. 106 is always the exception with the freshmen. This group is especially deep and talented. I respect your knowledge at this weight and welcome a PM or text from you.

- Chief
913-484-3624

PM'd you X.

Possible 5A Regional bracket (if regional assignments are same as last year).

132:

3. Zak Hensley - SJA - 11 - 5A
4. Sawyer Like - BVSW - 12 - 5A
5. Tyler Dickman - MV - 12 - 5A
10. Jake Elbrader - STA - 12 - 5A

PRE-SEASON RANKINGS!

Wrestlers are ranked by their ANTICIPATED weights. As with any ranking system they are just my opinion, arrived at through MANY hours of research. The classifications are out this Friday and changes will be noted then.

Many factors are considered (Not always in this order):

1. State bracket performance.
2. Performance at national folkstyle tournaments.
3. National FS/GR success.
4. Information from Coaches and Parents.
5. Competition that the wrestler has faced.


IMPORTANT:

The input must include criteria! Asking, "Why is this guy above that guy" or saying, "I can't believe you have that guy ranked" is not criteria. Just state your evidence and if found substantive, I will change it. Also remember that we are still many weeks away from the first whistle so a lot can change and surely will.

I will update these rankings based on new information on weights or past criteria.

TEAM RANKINGS:
1. St. James Academy - 5A
2. Garden City - 6A
3. Gardner Edgerton - 6A
4. St. Thomas Aquinas - 5A
5. Arkansas City - 5A
6. Wichita Northwest - 6A
7. Holton - 4A
8. Derby - 6A
9. Norton - 321A
10t. Junction City - 6A
10t. Wichita Heights - 6A


INDIVIDUAL RANKINGS:

106:
1. Idris Elias - WW - 9 - 5A
2. Logan Treaster - NEW - 9 - 5A
3. Gary Joint - JC - 9 - 6A
4. Corbin Nirschl - BL - 9 - 4A
5. Logan McDowell - AB - 11 - 4A
6. Emmanuel Browne - 10 - SUM - 4A
7. Tanner Hitchcock - PT - 9 - 5A
8. Tyler Flood - PAO - 9 - 4A
9. Collin Wallar - BS - 10 - 4A
10. Lane Glover - GD - 9 - 5A

113:
1. Jake Goldenstein - AUG - 11 - 4A
2. Michael Prieto - GC - 10 - 6A
3. Logan Terrill - ARK - 11 - 5A
4. Stephen Tujague - SJA - 10 - 5A
5. Zane Baugh - AB - 11 - 4A
6. Case Pemberton - PV - 10 - 4A
7. Paul Stuart - AND - 9 - 5A
8. Jacob Bonham - GE - 10 - 6A
9. Ryan DelForge - VC - 10 - 5A
10. Trae Foreman - PRT - 12 - 4A

120:
1. Parker Howell - KMC - 12 - 5A
2. Cesar Regalado - PRT - 12 - 4A
3. Josiah Seaton - BS - 12 - 4A
4. PJ Cheney - TUR - 12 - 5A
5. Landon Wood - MZ - 10 - 6A
6. David Mainus - CLB - 12 - 4A
7. Alex Cavanaugh - SL - 10 - 321A
8. Gabe Gooch - STA - 12 - 5A
9. Desmond Martinez - WH - 10 - 5A
10. Brendon Chrisjohn - OZ - 10 - 4A

126:
1. Sean DeShazer - WH - 11 - 5A
2. Reese Cokeley - SJA - 12 - 5A
3. Cody McDonald - DB - 11 - 6A
4. Reno Hughey - ELD - 10 - 4A
5. Kian Clemens - MH - 12 - 6A
6. Clay Weil - DC - 10 - 6A
7. James Jurgens - SCC - 11 - 321A
8. Kendall Frame - GD - 9 - GD
9. Danny Wilson - LV - 12 - 5A
10. Doug Newcomb - ONW - 11 - 6A

132:
1. Brandon Ball - HOI - 12 - 321A
2. Blake Stovall - ON - 10 - 6A
3. Zak Hensley - SJA - 11 - 5A
4. Sawyer Like - BVSW - 12 - 5A
5. Tyler Dickman - MV - 12 - 5A
6. Adam Cole - CH - 11 - 4A
7. Clayton Himpel - TG - 12 - 4A
8. Marcus Phillips - WW - 12 - 5A
9. Armond McCray - WH - 11 - 5A
10. Jake Elbrader - STA - 12 - 5A

138:
1. Brogan Humphrey - FRE - 12 - 321A
2. Michael Olsen - LS - 12 - 5A
3. Andrew Tujague - SJA - 12 - 5A
4. Tevin Briscoe - GC - 11 - 6A
5. Greg Tooley - STM - 11 - 321A
6. Dayton Dreher - OBR - 12 - 321A
7. Jake Wilson - RH - 12 - 4A
8. Greg Burley - GB - 12 - 5A
9. Patrick Burrus - KMC - 12 - 5A
10. Greg Jones - WH - 12 - 5A

145:
1. Tagen Lambotte - ROS - 12 - 321A
2. Tyler Mies - AN - 12 - 4A
3. Jake Ellis - MV - 12 - 5A
4. Kaleb Konitzer - PV - 12 - 4A
5. Tanner Madl - BV - 10 - 6A
6. Dylan Brazzle - WNW - 11 - 6A
7. Jaquwan Stone - BVNW - 12 - 6A
8. Kade Sander - GB - 12 - 5A
9. Chris Adler - GC - 12 - 6A
10. Zack Hoskins - STA - 12 - 5A

152:
1. Isaac Dulgarian - STA - 11 - 5A
2. Andrew Millsap - JC - 12 - 6A
3. Jacob Durossette - FS - 12 - 4A
4. Daemeion Gay - SEA - 11 - 5A
5. Brett Moon - MZ - 10 - 6A
6. Austin Chauncey - MH - 12 - 6A
7. Paul Suhr - AC - 12 - 4A
8. Asher Huseman - TG - 11 - 4A
9. William Holland - PV - 11 - 4A
10. Nick Reesor - ROS - 11 - 321A

160:
1. Taylor Watkins - COL - 11 - 4A
2. Saul Ortiz - WNW - 11 - 6A
3. Spencer Bird - SV - 12 - 4A
4. Ben VanLerberg - SJA - 12 - 5A
5. Jeryl Denton - JC - 11 - 6A
6. Lucas Lovvorn - HOL - 11 - 4A
7. Dalton Peters - SLC - 10 - 5A
8. Scott Whitson - BUH - 12 - 4A
9. Brett Woodruff - GD - 11 - 5A
10. Josh Mullin - MH - 12 - 6A

170:
1. Dustin Williams - GE - 12 - 6A
2. Kalin Collins - WW - 12 - 5A
3. Dylan Wiesner - PLV - 12 - 321A
4. Matt Pratt - SJA - 11 - 5A
5. Blake Hampton - SPH - 12 - 4A
6. Warren Kropp - SCC - 12 - 321A
7. Bowe Behymer - BEL - 12 - 321A
8. Tyler Harris - ATC - 11 - 4A
9. Alex Son - CH - 11 - 4A
10. Micah Felton - JC - 12 - 6A

182:
1. Nick Wuthnow - SSH - 12 - 321A
2. Gavin Grater - RC - 12 - 321A
3. Trent Salsbury - SJA - 12 - 5A
4. Jared Langley - NEW - 11 - 5A
5. Alan Clothier - LAW - 10 - 6A
6. LaPhonso McKinnis - SMNW - 12 - 6A
7. Andrew Taylor - CLB - 12 - 4A
8. Darick Jones - CLW - 12 - 4A
9. Nick Nolting - BC - 11 - 5A
10. Jesse Oliver - WW - 12 - 5A

195:
1. Preston Weigel - HAY - 12 - 5A
2. Emilio Fowler - GE - 11 - 6A
3. Skyler Hittle - CON - 12 - 4A
4. Sage Eckman - EMP - 11 - 5A
5. Rasheed Brady - SMS - 12 - 6A
6. Austin Tillman - TOP - 12 - 6A
7. Tyler Gastineau - GDL - 12 - 4A
8. Sammy Reyes - GC - 12 - 6A
9. Anthony Capul - AN - 9 - 4A
10. Tommy Marquez - BC - 11 - 5A

220:
1. Ben Ewing - STA - 11 - 5A
2. Seth Pesek - GE - 11 - 6A
3. Mario Galvan - SMNW - 12 - 6A
4. Chall Jenkins - BVW - 12 - 6A
5. Lex Plummer - HUT - 12 - 6A
6. Caleb Franklin - WN - 12 - 6A
7. Gus Farthing - BUR - 12 - 4A
8. Otto Orosco - ULY - 12 - 4A
9. Jordan Bell - WNW - 12 - 6A
10. Tanner Foulk - OZ - 12 - 4A

285:
1. Justin Scott - JW - 12 - 4A
2. Tyson Toelkes - SH - 12 - 5A
3. Ray Gallegos - NEW - 12 - 5A
4. Cooper Zeller - HOL - 12 - 4A
5. Jason Zook - CHP - 10 - 4A
6. Montana Fuller - GC - 12 - 6A
7. Jaden Helms - CPL - 11 - 321A
8. Tyler Bastian - WC - 12 - 6A
9. Zach Crick - MSG - 12 - 321A
10. Zeke Kissinger - TG - 12 - 4A




Ladies and Gentlemen.....Your Kansas All-Class wrestlers!!!

Tyson,

Here is probably why Chief would have these underclassman ahead of the upper classman, or at least the criteria that might get them there.

106:
1. Idris Elias - WW - 9 - 5A-2 wins over Treaster
2. Logan Treaster - NEW - 9 - 5A-2 wins over Joint
3. Gary Joint - JC - 9 - 6A-Has wins over Pemberton and Delforge, both HS state placers last year
4. Corbin Nirschl - BL - 9 - 4A-Has win over Verhaeghe, has 2 wins over Paxton Rosen (OK) Trinity and 15U Wrestler of the year through Roller Series
5. Logan McDowell - AB - 11 - 4A-Lost to Verhaeghe at kids state, Lost to Mainus at HS State
6. Emmanuel Browne - 10 - SUM - 4A-Beat Mainus at HS State, lost to Pemberton
7. Tanner Hitchcock - PT - 9 - 5A
8. Tyler Flood - PAO - 9 - 4A
9. Collin Wallar - BS - 10 - 4A
10. Lane Glover - GD - 9 - 5A

Many of these freshmen have beaten HS state placers.

Specifically, Nirschl beat Verhaeghe who beat Wallar. Glover has beaten Wallar. Browne lost to Pemberton, who lost to Gary Joint. Every single year there are exceptions to the freshman rule at 106. What is your definition of "proven themselves"? There are no returning high school state placers at 106.

Hay chief you brain damage yet..:-) let wreastle and figure it out on the mat!!!

We will figure it out on the mat.
But in the mean time, let's have some rankings to look at and start thinking about possible future match ups. Rankings are awesome. They interest fans and recognize, excite and inspire athletes. Why would we not have rankings? We have rankings in every sport on the planet including wrestling. Why would we not do it for Kansas high school wrestling? That does not make sense. Without being disrespectful, that seems illogical. I don't get the disgruntlement over the rankings.
Great job as always Chief! Thanks for the effort. Keep up the great work!

Hope that wasn't directed at me. Rankings are fine but you can be ranked #1 but it doesn't mean squat untill you actually get to the mat. I do respect what chief dose. Its just funny how every bodys got it figured out before the first match. Good luck to every body!

Will there be 2 4A rankings: DI and DII??

Any rumors on the locations for the 4A DI and 4A DII State Wrestling Tournaments. Same question for other 4A DI and DII sports.

Guess I should include the 1A DI and DII splits in my questions/comments.

There are not 2 divisions in 4A wrestling.

I love the rankings as they are a conversation piece! If you look back at the results from last year, Chief wasn't that far off on most weight classes! As for this year's rankings, there is one name missing and I'm sure he will be in the mix at whatever weight he is at! Christian Bowen should be and will be there at the end of the year!! Lastly, thank you Chief for getting the conversation started!!

Chief cant wait to see this 106 class and good job chief

I thought that when the 4A split was discussed/cussed on this forum in the Spring of 2013, that the main drivers/supporters for the split was the 4A wrestling community!!!!!! The 4A wrestling folks had been bitching forever about the unfairness of the 6A and 5A versus the 4A classes. Had never read any other Kansas HS sports forums--if they exist--that bitched about the 6A/5A/4A ""unfairness".

For all Kansas HS sports need to push for a 40/40/40 or 40/40/44 or 48 classes organization. Don't go to a 48/48/48 (as has been recommended)---would rob/role the top/biggest 3A schools into the 48 school 4A class.