Now posted on the KWCA site.

The rankings are returning state points from last season. I was unaware that was the ranking criteria. They will be more accurate with the coaches sharing their input with the ranking coaches.

weird.

Interesting...

So can we see what you have personally ranked them? Just for fun, unofficial like....

Kossivi Esse Sumner Academy is 145 not 138? Just curious how many of the weights are accurate?

I agree, I'd to see yours Chief, just for fun

Back in the days when I had more time, I use to do my own rankings, which does take a lot of time. I would rank all of the others and then try to plug in the ones from our school which is really hard and over the years I have seen rankers that had their own kids way too high more than too low. it is a hard part of the job. As far as weights, yes I know a lot of wrestlers have a good idea where they want to go but this too is not necessarily where they will be. It takes about a week of practice to really figure out where you should be. obviously for those that wrestle year round, they have a better idea of what to expect of their weight when conditioning starts.

Obviously, Chief has put a lot of time into his rankings. I some times wonder if he actually has a job. As for the new rankers, they are just getting started and I think anyone who has ever ranked kids knows it is just one opinion.

As far as the team rankings. Jeff West has one kid ranked (yes a stud) but not much else returning form the state tournament and Chanute has a #1, three #3 ranked and two #5 ranked kids. Obviously that is not credible by anyone's measure and if I were the ones doing the rankings, I would re-think how that is done or not even bother. "no criticism of Jeff West intended"

As far as the team rankings. Jeff West has one kid ranked (yes a stud) but not much else returning form the state tournament and Chanute has a #1, three #3 ranked and two #5 ranked kids. Obviously that is not credible by anyone's measure and if I were the ones doing the rankings, I would re-think how that is done or not even bother. "no criticism of Jeff West intended"

you couldn't have said it any better! I am sure my son will understand.

Every time I get on it is still the old rankings. Did they post them somewhere else?

I checked all the links they are updated and working. http://www.kansaswrestling.org/

Hmmmm? Both ways I go in it still shows February's with Dustin Reed still 1st at 126

once it is up you have to hit refresh button for some reason

That worked, thank you

Where are the underclassman:
Thomas Lisher-Won Kids state with Pemberton taking 6th in the bracket
Tyler Kester-beat Pemberton 3X and Lisher
Anthony Scantlin-in pre-season went 3-2 at Super 32, Went 3-2 at Pre-Season Nationals, undefeated in Freestyle at SB Duals
Anthony Capul 4th???-He took 3rd at Folkstyle Nationals in Cadets, FloWrestling has him listed as a top 50 Freshman in the country at any weight. Lost 3-2 to Saul Ortiz.

DJ Ballard although not a freshman had wins over Tujaque and Prieto this summer.

Not that rankings count for a lot, but expect these guys to make some waves as Freshmen this year.

Also Corey McCleary is from Basehor not Baldwin

I think we should throw more bodies at helping with the 4A rankings.......or, we could save much debate that will certainly come, and just use Chief's rankings for 4A.

Hey guys,

I have talked to the KWCA group and feel confident that they will be worked out. I am forwarding any corrections or info that I have to them and if we all do the same, they will absolutely improve. The next release is scheduled for the Tuesday after the first practice. The decision is settled and we all need to move forward for the betterment of Kansas wrestling!

- Chief

That is a good response Chief.
I assume these guys just decided over the weekend to do this and if they are starting solely based on last years points and such, I think that is a reasonable thing to do at this point. Having 4 guys from around the state consult I think will help. This job has in the past been determined by the class rep! I expect the rankings to be very legit once wrestling has actually occurred.

Has anyone heard about any wrestlers that may miss the season due to football injuries? It seems like a couple of kids are missing from the rankings.

Not sure that those involved in the decision had the betterment of Kansas wrestling in mind. If they did I would be willing to bury the hatchet but too many things were said and too many lies were told. The bottom line motivation had NOTHING to do with wrestling, rankings accuracy or even coaching. It was clearly a move tainted with conspiracy and dishonesty. I truly hope those involved are ashamed of themselves. Why would any coaches want to fix something was not broken? How does involving yourself, as a coach, improve your team? Eric Johnson is a top shelf gentleman with the highest level of professionalism and character. He is a God fearing man with a high sense of moral value and integrity. He loves wrestling and supporting Kansas wrestling without any personal reward to be attained. Hats off to Eric for moving on. I wish I had the appetite to swallow as much pride as he has had shoved down his throat during this week of high school wrestling coach politics.

Thanks Eric for all you do. We need more guys like you!