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Re: 3A rankings [Re: Wyatt Bechtel] #221616 11/15/13 10:37 PM
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The last Pre-season KWCA ranking release will be next Tuesday, November 19th!

Please send me weight changes or other info.

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Re: 3A rankings [Re: Wyatt Bechtel] #221617 11/15/13 11:47 PM
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FYI- Jaden Helms does not have a y in his first name...

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Re: 3A rankings [Re: REVOLUTION] #221669 11/20/13 02:25 AM
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The updated 321A Rankings have been posted.

Re: 3A rankings [Re: Wyatt Bechtel] #221712 11/22/13 06:11 PM
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3A Rankings 2013-2014
November 19, 2013

1. Norton
2. Rossville
3. Caney Valley
4. Oberlin
5. Smith Center
6. Silver Lake
7. Hoisington
8. Doniphan West
9. Plainville
10. Ellsworth


106
1. Caysean Campbell-11-Norton
2. Ty Nienke-12-Ellsworth
3. Cale Rogers-10-Smith Center
4. Dalton Goans-10-Lyons
5. Hunter Idol-10-Doniphan West
6. Kody Kind-10-Bennington

113
1. Ethan Ross-12-Norton
2. Troy Juenemann-11-Oberlin
3. Macoy Rains-10-Oakley
4. Beretta Janzen-11-Marion
5. Chris Deters-10-Marysville
6. Dylon Niswonger-10-Leoti

120
1. Alex Cavanaugh-10-Silver Lake
2. Macrae Migchelbrink-11-Rawlins Co.
3. Branson Addington-12-Norton
4. Marshall Schottler-12-Lyons
5. Mason Schweitzer-12-Hesston
6. Jim Weller-12-Southeast of Saline

126
1. Alec Hager-12-Norton
2. Clint Rogers-12-Smith Center
3. Haegan Schaefer-11-Silver Lake
4. Jonathan Ball-9-Hoisington
5. T.J. Ragnoni-10-Bennington
6. Guy Kinder-12-Caney Valley

132
1. Brandon Ball-12-Hoisington
2. Colton Stalford-11-Caney Valley
3. Andrew Beck-12-Centrallia
4. Logan Bowen-11-ACCHS
5. Taylor Murphy-11-Oakley
6. Tyler Watts-12-Beloit

138
1. Brogan Humphrey-12-Fredonia
2. Dayton Dreher-12-Oberlin
3. Greg Tooley-11-St. Marys
4. Michael Dusin-12-Phillipsburg
5. Jared Tallent-11-Norton
6. Trevor Melcher-12-Herington

145
1. Mo Rojas-12-Ellsworth
2. Gavin Lively-10-Norton
3. Willy Dieckmann-11-ACCHS
4. Marc Reiss-12-Rock Creek
5. Storm Johnson-11-Wabaunsee
6. Tanner Niemczyk-12-Beloit

152
1. Tagen Lambotte-12-Rossville
2. Lucas McMichael-10-Central-Burden
3. Kreal Smith-12-Southeast of Saline
4. Trevor Fee-12-Doniphan West
5. Daegan Asebedo-12-Wellsville
6. Grant Lambert-12-Smith Center

160
1. Nick Reesor-11-Rossville
2. Trevor Desair-12-Plainville
3. Keith Short-12-Southeast of Saline
4. Wyatt Oliver-12-Smith Center
5. Josh Nelson-11-Marysville
6. Tommy Avery-11-Jayhawk-Linn

170
1. Dylan Wiesner-12-Plainville
2. Bowe Behymer-12-Beloit
3. Rex Diederich-11-Oberlin
4. Braden Lockhart-12-Silver Lake
5. Isaac Luellen-10-Rossville
6. Cole Renner-12-Norton

182
1. Nick Wuthnow-12-Salina Sacred Heart
2. Gavin Grater-12-Riley Co.
3. Brice Mason-12-Leoti
4. A.J. Cooper-11-Cimarron
5. Cody Smallwood-12-Mission Valley
6. Tristin Paulsen-12-Stafford

195
1. Tristan Speer-11-Doniphan West
2. Kenny Brown-12-Caney Valley
3. Dylan Gassmann-11-Oakley
4. Avery Urban-12-Hoisington
5. Quentin Clark-11-Minneapolis
6. Dustin Blow-11-Onaga

220
1. Cody Walker-12-Wathena
2. Jesse Correll-12-Rock Creek
3. Clayton Jackson-12-Chase Co.
4. Ethan Gustus-11-Caney Valley
5. Seth Boswell-12-Phillipsburg
6. Skyler Tebo-12-Ellis

285
1. Jaden Helms-11-Chaparral
2. Zack Crick-12-South Gray
3. Fritz Berger-12-Sylvan-Grove
4. Jordan Turner-12-Erie
5. Daniel Couch-12-Central-Burden
6. Quade McCoy-12-Eureka

Re: 3A rankings [Re: Wyatt Bechtel] #221713 11/22/13 06:23 PM
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Curious about this comparison:

2. Dayton Dreher-12-Oberlin
3. Greg Tooley-11-St. Marys


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Re: 3A rankings [Re: Chief Renegade] #221714 11/22/13 07:24 PM
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Tristan Speer does not even attend Doniphan West. he transferred to Troy and was eligible to play football after sitting out 5 weks. True troy coops with D West but not at state.

Re: 3A rankings [Re: objective] #221716 11/22/13 09:30 PM
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Originally Posted By: objective
Tristan Speer does not even attend Doniphan West. he transferred to Troy and was eligible to play football after sitting out 5 weks. True troy coops with D West but not at state.


Thank you for the update. I will try to have it fixed in the next rankings.

It's too bad he transferred seeing as Doniphan West had a good chance of being a top 10 program this season.

Re: 3A rankings [Re: Chief Renegade] #221717 11/22/13 09:45 PM
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Originally Posted By: Chief Renegade
Curious about this comparison:

2. Dayton Dreher-12-Oberlin
3. Greg Tooley-11-St. Marys


Yes, that was one of the more difficult rankings until you look at the total body of work.

Dreher is a 3X time state placer (2nd, 3rd, 3rd), while Tooley did not qualify his freshman year and finished 2nd last season.

Both are good wrestlers, but I have to give the edge to Dreher.

Re: 3A rankings [Re: Wyatt Bechtel] #221718 11/22/13 10:51 PM
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D west was not going to do that. They have potential in Dunlap but it is a stretch for idol or fee

Re: 3A rankings [Re: objective] #221720 11/22/13 11:53 PM
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The "stretch" would be for you to keep some comments to yourself!

Re: 3A rankings [Re: Tyson Schreiner] #221721 11/23/13 12:04 AM
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I have to make an argument for Tristan Porsch again at either 106 or 113:

Beat Tate Carney in March who has a win over Nirschl
Pinned Will Spexarth who just finished 4th at kickoff
Beat Eck 5-0 who has wins over Glover, Waller and Spexarth
Beat Jalin Harper who has wins over Elias, Eck and Kester

No matter what weight this kid has some awesome skills and has shown that he can beat top competition.

Re: 3A rankings [Re: Tyson Schreiner] #221723 11/23/13 01:17 AM
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look for Fredonia to be a top ten team

Re: 3A rankings [Re: objective] #221724 11/23/13 01:23 AM
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Not sure between Tooley and Dreher but I think Tooley missed out his freshman year because of a broken bone didnt he?

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Re: 3A rankings [Re: Wyatt Bechtel] #221727 11/23/13 02:41 AM
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Originally Posted By: Wyatt Bechtel
Originally Posted By: Chief Renegade
Curious about this comparison:

2. Dayton Dreher-12-Oberlin
3. Greg Tooley-11-St. Marys


Yes, that was one of the more difficult rankings until you look at the total body of work.

Dreher is a 3X time state placer (2nd, 3rd, 3rd), while Tooley did not qualify his freshman year and finished 2nd last season.

Both are good wrestlers, but I have to give the edge to Dreher.


Tooley lost a very close match to Brogan Humphrey in the 138 final and Dreher was at 132. I had to go with the defending 138 finalist.


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Re: 3A rankings [Re: Chief Renegade] #221728 11/23/13 04:18 AM
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Originally Posted By: Chief Renegade
Originally Posted By: Wyatt Bechtel
Originally Posted By: Chief Renegade
Curious about this comparison:

2. Dayton Dreher-12-Oberlin
3. Greg Tooley-11-St. Marys


Yes, that was one of the more difficult rankings until you look at the total body of work.

Dreher is a 3X time state placer (2nd, 3rd, 3rd), while Tooley did not qualify his freshman year and finished 2nd last season.

Both are good wrestlers, but I have to give the edge to Dreher.


Tooley lost a very close match to Brogan Humphrey in the 138 final and Dreher was at 132. I had to go with the defending 138 finalist.


Yes, I saw the match and I took note of the score, but if my memory serves me right Humphrey controlled the pace of the match (like he does in many matches) and it never appeared that he was ever in any danger of losing. This has been a bit of a theme for Humphrey's finals matches. He has taken a lead in all three matches and more or less coasted. I'm not saying that is a bad thing, Humphrey is great wrestler who can dictate the pace of a match and it is not a knock on his opponents as all three were very tough. In all three matches he won by a 2 points or less. Tooley had a great state tournament and a great season, he did however lose by fall in the regional finals to James Landoll of Marysville who took 5th at state.

I believe Dreher was at one point leading on his finals opponent John Risewick of Norton in the first period (it was nearly 9 months ago so I may be remembering this wrong). Dreher lost 8 to 7 to Risewick at state. His loss at regionals was to Risewick by a major decision.

Again, I think Tooley and Dreher are very close. Both had wins over currently ranked All-Class wrestlers in Lucas Lovvorn of Holton and Sawyer Like of BVSW, respectively. Both had wins over several state placers last season. Both had losses to very tough wrestlers outside of their classification, Tooley lost to Bryce Shoemaker of Baldwin and Dreher lost to Chase Cole of Chanute along with Geordan Martinez of Pine Creek, CO.

The one thing that really separates them is their body of work prior to last season, and that is where Dreher has a distinctive advantage. It should be an interesting year at this weight, but in the end everyone will be trying to beat Humphrey for the title which has proven to be an arduous task.

Re: 3A rankings [Re: Travis Phippen] #221729 11/23/13 04:21 AM
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Originally Posted By: Travis Phippen
I have to make an argument for Tristan Porsch again at either 106 or 113:

Beat Tate Carney in March who has a win over Nirschl
Pinned Will Spexarth who just finished 4th at kickoff
Beat Eck 5-0 who has wins over Glover, Waller and Spexarth
Beat Jalin Harper who has wins over Elias, Eck and Kester

No matter what weight this kid has some awesome skills and has shown that he can beat top competition.


Travis, thanks for the info. Once I have an idea of where he is going Porsch is likely going to enter the rankings. I just haven't heard a confirmed weight yet.

Re: 3A rankings [Re: Tyson Schreiner] #221783 11/27/13 05:01 PM
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Jurgens @ 126 is ranked all class but dosent make 321A, am I seing that right?

Re: 3A rankings [Re: birddog] #221785 11/27/13 05:57 PM
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Originally Posted By: birddog
Jurgens @ 126 is ranked all class but dosent make 321A, am I seing that right?


Scott City moved up to 4A this year.

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