Kids Executve Council Meeting
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The Kids Executive Council met on Sunday, January 19th in Salina. Just a few highlights from the meeting:
The Kids Division has approximately $110,000 in checking and savings. Mike Juby asked about purchasing 10 additional track wrestling score clocks for $25,000. This would give USAW-Kansas a total of 54 clocks. The board approved the purchase of the 10 additional clocks. Richard Salyer is the scheduler of the clocks and the clocks are located in three locations around the state.
Keith Ashpole made a report on officials. We have 26 new Kids registered officials this year. He is working with Joe Knect to get a photo of each registered official so that coaches can have more information when they are selecting officials for the State series. Keith and Joe are also working on a post tournament form to be sent in following all sanctioned tournaments. This will also help track officials performance.
The re-districting process was referred to a committee consisting of the Asst. State Director and the four District Directors. No action was taken on re-districting.
The Borderline Bandits will be allowed a variance to participate in District 1 instead of District 3.
Matt Treaster Kids Ex. Director
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Re: Kids Executve Council Meeting
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Who has a say in the final decsion with regards to redistricting? Just those 5 or will the state body get a say in it as it potentially impacts everyone?
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Who has a say in the final decsion with regards to redistricting? Just those 5 or will the state body get a say in it as it potentially impacts everyone? Any change in district boundaries will be presented to the State Body for approval. Last years membership numbers were: District 1 - 3,431 District 2 - 1,792 District 3 - 2,030 District 4 - 1,738 Total - 8,991 Average - 2,248 Over/(Under) Average District 1 - 1,183 District 2 - (456) District 3 - (218) District 4 - (510) With the continued growth of the Kansas City metropolitan area the disparity will to continue to grow which is the driver for the need to address the issue.
Richard D. Salyer
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Of these numbers is there anyway to track how many kids are 1st year USA WKS members? For instance - I know my son had a card for 12 years straight. I do not know for sure - but like any sport the attrition rate is higher at a younger age.
But for last year or this year's numbers how many are first year members (Novice) by age group?
Last years membership numbers were: District 1 - 3,431 District 2 - 1,792 District 3 - 2,030 District 4 - 1,738 Total - 8,991
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Re: Kids Executve Council Meeting
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Is there anyway we can get an average number of wrestlers who enter the qualifying series. It has been a topic numerous times that some districts dont bring 4 wrestlers to state, and this leaves an empty spot sometimes on state bracket. This may be a better way to decide how to re-district, rather than just number of entries. I know our club has around 100 kids in our club, but maybe half of them enter the qualifying series for multiple reasons. (6U, Novice, done after 6U state, burnt out, etc....)
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That is a real good question, maybe drive this by numbers entered into sub-district.
Maybe 1,200 of those kids are 6U that didn't enter and that squares it up alot closer.
I wouldn't mind seeing the subs entries for all districts the last 3-4 years to see what that looks like.
I am sure somone has that at their finger tips and can get it faster than me hunting for it.
Tracy Peterson Buhler, KS
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Grand Total 2013 3604 2012 3702
2013 Sub District Numbers
D1N 567 D1S 551 TOTAL 1118
D2N 446 D2S 375 TOTAL 821
D3E 503 D3W 422 TOTAL 925
D4N 307 D4S 433 TOTAL 740
2012 Sub District Numbers
D1N 554 D1S 562 TOTAL 1116
D2N 428 D2S 418 TOTAL 846
D3E 485 D3W 434 TOTAL 919
D4N 369 D4S 452 TOTAL 821
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Numbers by age for 2013 Sub District tournaments
8U D1 258 D2 184 D3 248 D4 219
10U D1 233 D2 172 D3 210 D4 162
12U D1 220 D2 170 D3 183 D4 144
14U D1 247 D2 181 D3 188 D4 137
HS D1 160 D2 114 D3 96 D4 78
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So Sub's break Down average last 2 years
D1 1117
D2 833 (-284)
D3 922 (-195)
D4 780 (-337)
The only reason to change district is for State series right?
These are the real number that should be used and not memeberships.
I also think these numbers will change with the High School purchasing cards at a discount. That was some of the issue getting the HS kids to stay out, $37 for maybe 1 tournament or maybe 3. Now they have it and more may stay out.
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Tracy Peterson Buhler, KS
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I understand part of the conversation being some kids from D4 are getting a free pass to state so I was curious as to where the top 15 teams in state came from. Does this imply D2 needs to split some teams out? I would assume there are some really good kids getting left out in that area. May not be a factor in the big picture but here it is.
2013 D1 had 3, 3rd, 10th and 13th D2 had 6, 1st, 2nd, 4th, 5th, 7th and 14th D3 had 5, 6th, 8th, 11th and 15th D4 had 2, 9th and 12th
2012 D1 had 1, 1st D2 had 8, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 7th, 8th, 9th, 11th and 15th D3 had 4, 5th, 10th, 13th and 14th D4 had 2, 6th and 12th
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jeremy sekavec
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We all know that District 4 will never have the numbers that the Kansas City area has. It will not matter because the population is shifting east. With that being said, the kids in district 4 should NOT be punished because of where they live. I have been watching this conversation for a while now and have seen some pretty terrible ideas. One idea is to take qualifying spots away from a district based on population. How is that fair to the kids? I thought this is about the kids and for the kids? What about the team title? Should we change how that is scored? Will it ever be possible for an average size club to win it anymore? Or do we only care about the big super clubs? Kids state is the closest thing this state has to a Grand State. If we were to venture down this road, lets do it correctly. Lets make it fair for the kids. Lets put in place a system to where there is an opening, we have a system setup to where it gets filled. I would say go by the record of the 5th place kids.
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I am not real familiar with the eastern kansas territory but here is an idea. The numbers for the districts without high schools goes as follows
D1-958 D2-707 D3-829 D4-662
So if we go by geographic location only (since i do not know the population of these counties) I would bring the suggest of this to the board: Move Woodson, Allen, Bourbon, Neosho, Crawford, Labette, and Cherokee from District 1 and move to District 2. Take Smith, Osborne, Russell, Jewel, Mitchell, Lincoln, Ellsworth, Rice, and Reno from district 3 and move to District 4. I do not know how much of an impact this would make to the numbers but geographically speaking, it would be the easiest
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