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Here is one more for you that I was called and told I should tell you Willym. This last weekend,my little girl in 10u was put in a round robbin she had no chance of wining in. I ask two difrant team coaches to not end it fast with my girl and to wrestle her. They ask me if I was asking them to go easy,I said hell no. I am asking you to take her down over and over or put her on her back many times.I also told them to do it at there normal speed.They did and pounded on my girl for the full time.I think one finished in a pin and one was tec or close.
On a 2nd note.My boy did take a boy down and let him up a few times.Not to be little him but to show his coach,you will not catch us on our feet.That would be a head lock to some that dont know,willym.
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Re: Taunting
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02/19/14 07:05 PM
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BTW I have no clue on texting. Have never done it and never will.
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Re: Taunting
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02/19/14 07:18 PM
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Taking a kid down and letting up is typical for wrestling. But putting a kid on their back and letting up is unsportsman like counduct and should have been called that by the referee. Still a judgement call, but most refs i've seen have called it this way. The kid should have been penalized.
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Re: Taunting
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02/19/14 07:28 PM
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OK. What ever. I see no comparison between your son's match and situation and what I said was taunting. All that is beside the point. I Have my own political, social and religious opinions. I see no reason for any such comments on those subject on this forum. These were old, old typical comments from Don King---HS wrestling guru and social commentator. I think Don is also a closet BB and soccer fan--just afraid to come out of the closet in front of his wrestling buds!
But, thanks for reply. In itself an excellent example for your son.
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OK. What ever. I see no comparison between your son's match and situation and what I said was taunting. All that is beside the point. I Have my own political, social and religious opinions. I see no reason for any such comments on those subject on this forum. These were old, old typical comments from Don King---HS wrestling guru and social commentator. I think Don is also a closet BB and soccer fan--just afraid to come out of the closet in front of his wrestling buds!
But, thanks for reply. In itself an excellent example for your son. I have never stated on this forum or anywhere that I don't like BB. I love BASEBALL and College Basketball. I cannot stand the NBA and soccer is just boring. The only things that ever interested me in soccer were Mia Hamm and Brandi Chastain. I played in a rec league when I was in the 7th grade. The name of our team...The Cheezy Riders. We won the league while leading it in penalties and ejections. Absent those it was pretty boring even to play.
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Re: Taunting
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02/19/14 09:26 PM
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Tell you what, I won't talk soccer or basketball, if you wont talk politics, social philosophy, or religion on this forum. NOT THE PLACE!!! I already have a nut case right wing tea party wacko across the street. Wow. So you talked politics, philosophy and religion in the same post that you request to ban it? Sorry chief, you misread something somewhere. But that is a common occurrence on this forum by a lot of readers. I think our old friend Coklely posted a political diatribe. Then CWB, who identified himself as a Cokely, commented that that was the best post ever then went into another diatribe on socialism, the failures of our schools, how we were ruining or youth-everything except a long homophobic rant or a rail against same sex marriage. The same stuff you hear from politicians (Republicans) and many preachers. I get dragged across the coals, called ignorant, dumb, etc, for mentioning soccer and basketball. Wrestling folks don't like a/o hate those 2 sports and have told me often this wrestling forum is "NOT THE PLACE". OK, nor is this the place for politics, social philosophy, and religion. If you must, send a letter to the editor, talk with your social science professor, talk to your pastor---those are the "RIGHT PLACES". Wrestling is part of the education system and the education system is being questioned so I think it belongs on the Forum. Wrestling might be one of the best things left in the education system. Read these articles and weep along with me Willy. http://www.jstor.org/discover/10.2307/35...=21103539621993http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1467-873X.2007.00405.x/abstract;jsessionid=4763BD20ECB1F749AFBF0A674EF08E54.f01t01?deniedAccessCustomisedMessage=&userIsAuthenticated=false http://www.bgnelson.com/position_statements/Professionally%20Speaking%20-%20June%202007.pdfThe pussification of America continues
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Re: Taunting
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02/19/14 11:10 PM
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Tell you what, I won't talk soccer or basketball, if you wont talk politics, social philosophy, or religion on this forum. NOT THE PLACE!!! I already have a nut case right wing tea party wacko across the street. Wow. So you talked politics, philosophy and religion in the same post that you request to ban it? Sorry chief, you misread something somewhere. But that is a common occurrence on this forum by a lot of readers. I think our old friend Coklely posted a political diatribe. Then CWB, who identified himself as a Cokely, commented that that was the best post ever then went into another diatribe on socialism, the failures of our schools, how we were ruining or youth-everything except a long homophobic rant or a rail against same sex marriage. The same stuff you hear from politicians (Republicans) and many preachers. I get dragged across the coals, called ignorant, dumb, etc, for mentioning soccer and basketball. Wrestling folks don't like a/o hate those 2 sports and have told me often this wrestling forum is "NOT THE PLACE". OK, nor is this the place for politics, social philosophy, and religion. If you must, send a letter to the editor, talk with your social science professor, talk to your pastor---those are the "RIGHT PLACES". Wrestling is part of the education system and the education system is being questioned so I think it belongs on the Forum. Wrestling might be one of the best things left in the education system. Read these articles and weep along with me Willy. http://www.jstor.org/discover/10.2307/35...=21103539621993http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1467-873X.2007.00405.x/abstract;jsessionid=4763BD20ECB1F749AFBF0A674EF08E54.f01t01?deniedAccessCustomisedMessage=&userIsAuthenticated=false http://www.bgnelson.com/position_statements/Professionally%20Speaking%20-%20June%202007.pdfThe pussification of America continues One more time, I won't talk soccer or basketball on this forum if you won't talk politics, social philosophy, and religion! I don't read articles you recommend that I expect are negative, right wing rants, nor do I listen to wackos like Rush and a list of other radical radio political talk hosts. Why would I read some thing like The pussification of America continues. I have repeatedly read your political outbursts for 3 or 4 years. Basically sir, they are full of crap. I trust my local public school teachers and administrators. I don't trust the latest bunch of wacko Republican, Tea Party, American's for Tax Prosperty, the Chamber Of Commerce, or Kansas state legislators-in fact I consider wackos like them to be the greatest danger to the future of America. Look what I have done---I said no politics, no social philosophy, no religion on this forum--then I write a diatribe at least against politics and social philosophy. Forgive me, for evidently I have transgressed,---not sinned, transgressed. And this is not an anti-religion comment which I am sure some religious fruitcake will allege.
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Re: Taunting
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02/19/14 11:50 PM
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[quote=Chief Renegade][quote=WillyM]Tell you what, I won't talk soccer or basketball, if you wont talk politics, social philosophy, or religion on this forum. NOT THE PLACE!!! I already have a nut case right wing tea party wacko across the street
Sorry chief, you misread something somewhere. But that is a common occurrence on this forum by a lot of readers.
I think our old friend Coklely posted a political diatribe. Then CWB, who identified himself as a Cokely, commented that that was the best post ever then went into another diatribe on socialism, the failures of our schools, how we were ruining or youth-everything except a long homophobic rant or a rail against same sex marriage. The same stuff you hear from politicians (Republicans) and many preachers. I get dragged across the coals, called ignorant, dumb, etc, for mentioning soccer and basketball. Wrestling folks don't like a/o hate those 2 sports and have told me often this wrestling forum is "NOT THE PLACE". OK, nor is this the place for politics, social philosophy, and religion. If you must, send a letter to the editor, talk with your social science professor, talk to your pastor---those are the "RIGHT PLACES". Wrestling is part of the education system and the education system is being questioned so I think it belongs on the Forum. Wrestling might be one of the best things left in the education system. Read these articles and weep along with me Willy. http://www.jstor.org/discover/10.2307/35...=21103539621993http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1467-873X.2007.00405.x/abstract;jsessionid=4763BD20ECB1F749AFBF0A674EF08E54.f01t01?deniedAccessCustomisedMessage=&userIsAuthenticated=false http://www.bgnelson.com/position_statements/Professionally%20Speaking%20-%20June%202007.pdfThe pussification of America continues One more time, I won't talk soccer or basketball on this forum if you won't talk politics, social philosophy, and religion! I don't read articles you recommend that I expect are negative, right wing rants, nor do I listen to wackos like Rush and a list of other radical radio political talk hosts. Why would I read some thing like The pussification of America continues. I have repeatedly read your political outbursts for 3 or 4 years. Basically sir, they are full of crap. I trust my local public school teachers and administrators. I don't trust the latest bunch of wacko Republican, Tea Party, American's for Tax Prosperty, the Chamber Of Commerce, or Kansas state legislators-in fact I consider wackos like them to be the greatest danger to the future of America. Look what I have done---I said no politics, no social philosophy, no religion on this forum--then I write a diatribe at least against politics and social philosophy. Forgive me, for evidently I have transgressed,---not sinned, transgressed. And this is not an anti-religion comment which I am sure some religious fruitcake will allege. You took the bait. 
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02/20/14 01:40 AM
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So, this is a game? OK. jokes on me. You still have a F--- U-,sorry, screwed up political philosophy. Why are you even concerned about public education, your kids go to private/parochial schools. Bet you are the only person on this forum who thinks like you on public education. Pussification? Where in the hell did that word come from---perhaps from your public education in Liberal. Hell of a background.
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02/20/14 01:53 AM
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So, this is a game? OK. jokes on me. You still have a F--- U-,sorry, screwed up political philosophy. Why are you even concerned about public education, your kids go to private/parochial schools. Bet you are the only person on this forum who thinks like you on public education. Pussification? Where in the hell did that word come from---perhaps from your public education in Liberal. Hell of a background. Wow. Set up a poll Willy and let the voting begin! I pay taxes to that public school system. I work hard and I have no say in how it is operated and what belongs in the budget or doesn't. I get NO tax credit for paying for private school but I do get that choice and I have a voice there. I have a pretty decent education and it allows me to use words greater than four letters to express myself. While you are taking the Public Education poll go ahead and summon responses, positive and negative for that terrible but accurate word.
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Re: Taunting
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Cokeley.. Do you know what a troll is. It is a person on a forum who "trolls" all comments and then spring butt with negative, offensive, demeaning, abusive, name calling, age slander, etc., replies. I think we have some trolls on this forum. Being that you are one of the top posters on this forum, and the value of many of your replies have little constructive value, have to ask if you live under a bridge (I will let you figure that out).
I belong to two other forums: a college conference BB forum and a college BB team forum. Those two forums have rules against trolling, and moderators who can and will remove abusive comments, and for repeat trolling offenses will cancel your forum posting privileges.
This is a true statement!! I received a PM yesterday from a member of this forum. He stated he wanted to post to the forum but he and his comments were always attacked by what he called cyberbullies. So, he just quit posting. TROLLs and CYBERBULLIES. Yes, we have some of those!
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02/20/14 02:16 AM
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Bill,
Did you really just complain about people being negative, abusive and demeaning while calling someone "screwed up" and talking about your "wacko" neighbor? Are you for real?
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Re: Taunting
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Cokeley.. Do you know what a troll is. It is a person on a forum who "trolls" all comments and then spring butt with negative, offensive, demeaning, abusive, name calling, age slander, etc., replies. I think we have some trolls on this forum. Being that you are one of the top posters on this forum, and the value of many of your replies have little constructive value, have to ask if you live under a bridge (I will let you figure that out).
I belong to two other forums: a college conference BB forum and a college BB team forum. Those two forums have rules against trolling, and moderators who can and will remove abusive comments, and for repeat trolling offenses will cancel your forum posting privileges.
This is a true statement!! I received a PM yesterday from a member of this forum. He stated he wanted to post to the forum but he and his comments were always attacked by what he called cyberbullies. So, he just quit posting. TROLLs and CYBERBULLIES. Yes, we have some of those! Cyberbully! That is hilarious. I have never threatened you or attacked you. You attack my posts. To me this is all just fun and freedom of speech. If anyone is losing sleep over what I type on here that is crazy. It is easy Willy, when you see Don's picture, you know the one you told me I need to get rid of, don't read the post. Really simple. If someone is afraid to post on here I don't even understand that because we have a large number of nameless, faceless posters that put there opinions on here. Sure they might take a little heat but they still don't have to put their name on the post. How do you bully a nameless, faceless poster? This is purely entertainment. No one is getting paid to do anything on this forum. I am sorry if you feel bullied. I should feel that way as you repeatedly attempt to label me and tag me with unflattering descriptions and names. I don't feel that way. It is all good. The more you write the more people might read and visit our site. Thanks!
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02/20/14 02:19 AM
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So, this is a game? OK. jokes on me. You still have a F--- U-,sorry, screwed up political philosophy. Why are you even concerned about public education, your kids go to private/parochial schools. Bet you are the only person on this forum who thinks like you on public education. Pussification? Where in the hell did that word come from---perhaps from your public education in Liberal. Hell of a background. Wow. Set up a poll Willy and let the voting begin! I pay taxes to that public school system. I work hard and I have no say in how it is operated and what belongs in the budget or doesn't. I get NO tax credit for paying for private school but I do get that choice and I have a voice there. I have a pretty decent education and it allows me to use letters greater than four letters to express myself. While you are taking the Public Education poll go ahead and summon responses positive and negative for that terrible but accurate word. Great, Your choice on sending your kids to a parochial school. Just don't ask me to give you a tax break or pay your tuition. I guess you live in Johnson County, with probably more great school systems (and athletic programs) than any county in America. So, if your kids don't attend those schools it must be for reasons other than academics and athletics. And, if you think you have no say, put it in a letter to the editor, talk to a member of your local school board, go to a school board meeeting. Hell, in Leavenworth City we have had two Catholics on the school board (one was the board president) whose kids attend the local Catholic schools. Never heard them cry, bitch and complain like you. Keep your politics off this forum. That's what you told me to do with soccer and basketball.
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Re: Taunting
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Cokeley.. Do you know what a troll is. It is a person on a forum who "trolls" all comments and then spring butt with negative, offensive, demeaning, abusive, name calling, age slander, etc., replies. I think we have some trolls on this forum. Being that you are one of the top posters on this forum, and the value of many of your replies have little constructive value, have to ask if you live under a bridge (I will let you figure that out).
I belong to two other forums: a college conference BB forum and a college BB team forum. Those two forums have rules against trolling, and moderators who can and will remove abusive comments, and for repeat trolling offenses will cancel your forum posting privileges.
This is a true statement!! I received a PM yesterday from a member of this forum. He stated he wanted to post to the forum but he and his comments were always attacked by what he called cyberbullies. So, he just quit posting. TROLLs and CYBERBULLIES. Yes, we have some of those! Cyberbully! That is hilarious. I have never threatened you or attacked you. You attack my posts. To me this is all just fun and freedom of speech. If anyone is losing sleep over what I type on here that is crazy. It is easy Willy, when you see Don's picture, you know the one you told me I need to get rid of, don't read the post. Really simple. If someone is afraid to post on here I don't even understand that because we have a large number of nameless, faceless posters that put there opinions on here. Sure they might take a little heat but they still don't have to put their name on the post. How do you bully a nameless, faceless poster? This is purely entertainment. No one is getting paid to do anything on this forum. I am sorry if you feel bullied. I should feel that way as you repeatedly attempt to label me and tag me with unflattering descriptions and names. I don't feel that way. It is all good. The more you write the more people might read and visit our site. Thanks! Nope. I have never felt bullied on this forum-at least to the extent that I would not respond. Do I feel like I have been harshly addressed with snide comments like yours. Yes. But all those comments make me sit at the computer and respond in kind. I haven't had this much fun since Granny caught he tit in the wringer!
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BREAKING NEWS! This just in, raining with thunder in Lawrence ... and now back to wrestling.
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I asked what I thought was an innocuous question: is there a rule on taunting in HS wrestling? This has turned into a real s--t storm. Needs to stop here.
I am out of here.
eNuff said.
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Bill, thick skin remember? This wasn't aimed at you; I get a little tired of watching a tennis match of bantering back and forth. You did ask a legitimate question and hopefully you got your answer somewhere in this thread. I have four boys and have seen my share of squabbling over the years to know what squabbling looks like. Now, let us get back to what is most important on this forum ... wrestling.
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I asked what I thought was an innocuous question: is there a rule on taunting in HS wrestling? This has turned into a real s--t storm. Needs to stop here.
I am out of here.
eNuff said. You will respond, I'd put money on it.
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http://www.kshsaa.org/Public/PDF/SportsmanshipBrochure.pdfThere is a rule against taunting. It was a huge deal when it came out when I was a senior in 1988, especially with the parents, they were pissed they couldn't yell at the refs. It has obviously been enforced less and less over the years with the student athletes and the fans.
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