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Calling ALL D1, D3, and D4 High School wrestlers #227753 03/11/14 12:15 PM
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I would like to invite you to join or transfer to Team Bandidos in order to take advantage of a newly created wrestling opportunity. The District 2 leadership has graciously made it possible for you to register for the District 2 State Qualifier to be wrestled at Andover HS on March 22. Registrations are due by March 19th so please don’t delay. If you already have a USAWKS wrestling card our club dues will be a $25 which include a club t-shirt and cover the entry fee for the District 2 tournament. This is a tremendous opportunity…brackets have the potential to be enormous and you will get a ton of quality matches in. So…start the preparation for your 2014-15 champagne now; join Team Bandidos!

To be clear...if you failed to register for Subs in your respective district or if you fail to qualify at your own Sub, email me at bandidos.usawks@gmail.com and I will get you our registration paperwork.

Coaching staff is still being ironed out! But I promise that you will NOT be disappointed it will include some of KS best.


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Re: Calling ALL D1, D3, and D4 High School wrestlers [Re: Bandidos] #227756 03/11/14 12:40 PM
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I have already received a couple emails asking if this is for real! I assure you it is. Our club charter is in the works and we are open for business. Join Team Banditos today!


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Re: Calling ALL D1, D3, and D4 High School wrestlers [Re: Bandidos] #227760 03/11/14 12:52 PM
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I just want it clear that this was started in D3 not D2.


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Re: Calling ALL D1, D3, and D4 High School wrestlers [Re: Beeson] #227762 03/11/14 12:56 PM
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I am confused again Beeson...I thought you said D3 was manipulated by being told that "everyone" else was in the water already. But D2 leadership did this storm trooper style without even having a vote.

Besides we would like to come down and compete with the best and everyone knows that if you want to compete with the best go to D2.

Join Team Bandidos today!


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Re: Calling ALL D1, D3, and D4 High School wrestlers [Re: Beeson] #227763 03/11/14 12:58 PM
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Respectively why do we need to join your club? Our kids already have cards under a charted club and there is nothing in the Bylaws that says I have to wrestle in my district. We should be able to sign them under our own club and cover them with a coach for Districts and then we will all be under 1 roof at state if they qualify. May not even be necessary if everyone makes it but doesn’t hurt to have a plan B.

Re: Calling ALL D1, D3, and D4 High School wrestlers [Re: Daniel DRW] #227764 03/11/14 01:06 PM
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No Problem Daniel

Our bylaws require you to belong to a club within the district you are competing. Team Bandidos does not want to break any rules. That is why our club charter in D2 is in the works! That being said, I would be happy to recognize any of our State Placers in the end by their hometown club. I am not trying to steal any kids away from their hometown clubs...I just want to assist getting your kids registered to wrestle, so they can take advantage of this tremendous opportunity given to them by D2's leadership. Thank you very much for your question and your interest in Team Bandidos! Help me spread the word...join Team Bandidos today.


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Daniel I see your club is hosting the D1N Sub District Tournament in Topeka. If I get you a flier would it be possible for you to hand it out to all of your non-qualifying wrestlers who are NOT moving on to Districts in Olathe? The deadline for the D2 HS division is on March 19th so these non-qualifying athletes who were eliminated from the State Series can definitely get their registrations in under the wire and still wrestle for a spot on the State bracket representing D2. Another bite at the apple...so to speak. BTW if they want to avoid those boys who beat them on the 15th they can pick a different weight to wrestle at in D2 that would give them their best chances once they make the State bracket!

I don't want anyone to miss out on this awesome opportunity. Join Team Bandidos today!

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Re: Calling ALL D1, D3, and D4 High School wrestlers [Re: Bandidos] #227769 03/11/14 01:35 PM
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Originally Posted By: Bandidos
I am confused again Beeson...I thought you said D3 was manipulated by being told that "everyone" else was in the water already. But D2 leadership did this storm trooper style without even having a vote.

Besides we would like to come down and compete with the best and everyone knows that if you want to compete with the best go to D2.

Join Team Bandidos today!


District 3 is where this originated. Being manipulated is still better than being given no choice.


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Re: Calling ALL D1, D3, and D4 High School wrestlers [Re: Beeson] #227771 03/11/14 01:42 PM
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OK all makes sense, I will spread the word. I also have a wrestler that is a HS Freshman but technically qualifies for 14U, he didn’t register for Subs but now wants to wrestle. Since he is a HS kid can I sign him up under this new group and he wrestle the HS division?

Re: Calling ALL D1, D3, and D4 High School wrestlers [Re: Daniel DRW] #227776 03/11/14 02:06 PM
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Yep Daniel...I forgot to add that to my original post. The 14U freshman who chose to compete at 14U now have the opportunity to wrestle another week at the HS division if they are eliminated at subs; or just didn't get their registrations in by the seeding meeting last Sunday. There are so many good things with this ruling I am not sure why we haven't done this before! Thank you D2! Don't miss this shot; join Team Bandidos today because "Its not too late until D2 says its too late". I better call the copier and get some more fliers made. Join Team Bandidos today!

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Re: Calling ALL D1, D3, and D4 High School wrestlers [Re: Bandidos] #227779 03/11/14 02:14 PM
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Posts: 26 Why was sub district cancelled for high school in D2? To save money? Less Travel? Not enough Kids? Here are some facts as I read them....

1. There are 32 total brackets that were to be wrestled in D2 High school division this weekend. 16 of those are big enough brackets that kids would be eliminated. That's 50% of Brackets

2. In 8U there are 36 total brackets with 16 big enough for kids to be eliminated. That's 44.4% of Brackets

3. In 10u there are 40 brackets with 16 big enough for kids to be eliminated. That's 40% of Brackets.

4. In 12U there are 42 brackets with 13 big enough for kids to be eliminated. That's 30.9% of Brackets.

5. In 14U there are 46 brackets with 19 big enough for kids to be eliminated. That's 41.3% of brackets.

Why the special treatment for High School Kids. The rest of us are hard working parents that could use a financial saving of not going to SUBS.

PS.... There will be $16540 in entry fees for this tournament. So what is really going on?

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Re: Calling ALL D1, D3, and D4 High School wrestlers [Re: bradbee] #227783 03/11/14 02:21 PM
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Bradbee...I am not sure of the motives of those involved so I won't speculate.

But I do want everyone from D1, D3, and D4 to be aware of the tremendous opportunities that were not available to them before D2 leadership went down this path AND give them a pathway to take advantage of said opportunity. Team Bandidos is not trying to make any money off of this...so Team Bandidos is NOT taking financial advantage at all. You might say we are here to help facilitate this change...or not. But, Join Team Banditos today!

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Re: Calling ALL D1, D3, and D4 High School wrestlers [Re: bradbee] #227787 03/11/14 02:30 PM
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Originally Posted By: bradbee
Why the special treatment for High School Kids. The rest of us are hard working parents that could use a financial saving of not going to SUBS.

PS.... The state will take in $16540 in entry fees for this tournament. So what is really going on?
USAW Kansas Kids does not make any money off the entry fees into the qualifying series tournaments. The entry fee paid to enter the Sub-district tournament is paid to the host club, the entry fee for those qualifying for the District Tournament are paid to the host club. The entry fee paid for those advancing to the State Tournament are paid to USAW Kansas Kids.


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Re: Calling ALL D1, D3, and D4 High School wrestlers [Re: RichardDSalyer] #227790 03/11/14 02:33 PM
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That's fine Richard....but answer the rest of the post.

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so we have the choice to go to D3 also if we want to wrestle district we just need a club to take us in or make a club?

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Yep snow there is nothing stopping you. But just for giggles here are the state pairings as listed in the bylaws...

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District I vs. III
District II vs. IV

However, I do not want the original intent of this post to be lost in the bickering between D2 members and their leadership or other outliers.

Team Bandidos is for real. We have a verified opportunity for your HS wrestlers to compete. Why not just join Team Bandidos and let D2 be our host on March 22nd.

Join Team Bandidos today!


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But is it just for high school wrestlers? Or can all kids take advantage of this?

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Well I know there will be a kid 12under or whatever age show up to wrestle at D2 and if you say no your not HS to bad. You break the rules for one you better break it for all....I see lawsuit in the works

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Yep snow there is nothing stopping you. But just for giggles here are the state pairings as listed in the bylaws...

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District I vs. III
District II vs. IV


As I see it the bylaws can change at any time so I guess pairs might change at the raising of an arm....

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Wonder how much back pedaling is going on right now? I can’t imagine this (eliminating HS class at SUBs) is a simple and clean cut as some have tried to say it is. This will be fun to watch play out, based on a few other conversations outside this forum it is going to get extremely entertaining and serious (legalities) over the next couple days. What may get lost in all this is we (KS) look like a dysfunctional mess, other states and organizations read this board and we look like a bunch of unorganized dips. We have a crew, mostly kids club directors if I am correct, in the state that just ran a very large National level tournament and by all accounts did an awesome job but due to a couple decisions on an unrelated event we now look like we have no clue how to run a wrestling community. Maybe I am wrong but as a disinterested party to this whole mess it doesn’t look good. My wrestler is 10U, hope this gets worked out before it’s our problem.

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