I don't have a dog in the fight. This is just an idea. If you don't have a place big enough for a one day tournament. What about using a split format for the tournament. The tournament could start earlier around 0800. First half be done around noon. Start the second half at 1300 and be done around 1700. Just an idea to help take some pressure of families.

Josh Parker

Make top 4 in subs make top 4 in districts and be in the top 16 at state is how D4 rolls our kids earn their spots if they have to travel to do it I see no nothing wrong with subs I take my kids an other kids with me to so they can battle it out

These new districts boundaries are stupid, there is no reason for the 2 clubs along 81 hiway to have to drive clear out to garden city for a district tournament which is 4 hours away and a total of 8 hours on the road.

Why don't we add a couple of districts and take the top 2 instead of the top 4 to the state meet. less driving for everyone and save money, just a thought

If you did this all jock straps would have to be tightened up.

Not necessarily if you were in southwest Kansas.

What they do not understand republic county is 12 miles from Concordia. So the bad part about this is there has been talk in joining republic county due to the fact of the drive clear out to garden city. And just wrestle with them and stay in district 3. Or we can just sign up under salina and stay in district 3. There is more than one way to skin a cat. It would be to ur best interest to find a more neutral location for the district tournament because I for see joining another group and then your so called numbers are going to be high for dist 3 and numbers will drop in dist 4.
It is not that we do not want to wrestle in district 4 it is the fact that there needs to be a closer district tournament instead of garden city, 4 hours is to long especially for 8 under and some 10 under kids.

welcome to district 4 reddog2853. It is driving everywhere you go. As discussed before there is no good location to have a central tournament. Not that time of year anyways

For starters reddog, the state did NOTHING to balance district head count variances of which the significant majority of the straw survey conducted desires a balanced district. Using Trackwrestling team views for 3 & 4 subs plus the high school entries for those districts (less a couple scratch) and the 1 & 2 district tournaments:

2016 D1 745 2016 D2 719 2016 D3 780 2016 D4 720
New Count 732 New Count 734 New Count 779 New Count 719

Greatest variance between districts = 60 for no change. NOTHING CHANGED for balance. What got accomplished was Reno, Kingman and Harper county took themselves out of the drives into D4 (a/k/a Garden 3h and Goodland 4h) and your couple of counties that are further to the east than Reno got thrown to the travel wolves. That bunch threw you under the bus but you already know such. To do a proper balance needed in reducing D3 head count and getting a lower variance between districts:

D1 leave as newly drawn 732
D2 Add McPherson +69, less Reno-Kingman-Harper -56, = 747
D3 Add Cloud, Ottawa +34, less McPherson -69, = 744
D4 Add Reno-Kingman-Harper +56, less Cloud, Ottawa -34 = 741

Greatest variance between districts = 15 AND D1 has room to grow!

Sorry about your predicament reddog. I would prefer an extra couple hours to Garden City than driving the 40 minute round trip to Belleville couple times a week for practice to skirt the district boundaries that have been drawn. Quite simply put, you got thrown under the bus by you know who.....after long drives to GC and Goodland this past season. Like Sekavec said, "welcome to district 4". Other than a regime change, which isn't likely, your next best effort might be getting a capable venue there or Beloit winning district hosting bids to avoid the drives into the D4 wild west. I hope not for us in the far SW corner don't want 4.5-5 hour drives either as the three hour standards are plenty enough. Looks like the odds are stacking up that D3 and D4 get pushed away from having subs in the future so, IF that happens, then it will only be one trip into the wild west for you. Issue will return to only a few select venues capable of hosting a D4 of over 700 kids IF the board also balances the districts. About five facilities are of adequate seating capacity and only one is reasonably centralized but ONLY IF Gross Memorial doesn't have a scheduling conflict (let alone expensive). Are you Cloud county people ready for a five hour drive to Liberal or four to Garden City? Pratt will be a short drive for you when they host. Which I'm sure the Reno folks wouldn't have minded that kind of drive........just not clear to Goodland for an overcrowded venue.

Welcome to District 4 but how does Reno keeps themselves out of D4 with any attempt to balance the numbers? Saline county thrown under the bus next? That would be an interesting dog fight to watch!

I wish everyone would stop with the "room to grow" nonsense. None of us can predict when and where growth will take place. At the state body meeting it was stated that one of the reasons for the redistricting was due to growth in D2. That is not accurate. District 2 numbers had been in decline for years, until the redistricting of three years ago. In fact, that is one of the reasons that brought about the idea of doing away with subs in D2, that being the lack of competitor numbers to host a sub and make money on it. That is the reason D2 had been an advocate for redistricting for years, in order to increase our competitor numbers.
When the counties from far eastern Kansas were added to D2 three years ago, of course our numbers increased.

Reddog even better...Take the top six from each district (give a first round bye to Top 2 from each district)in a 32 man bracket. Do away with HS and add 6U; Minnesota does this.

Or as one coach from District 3 said...just run them all blind draw. Do it Montana style.

B.Mannel actually your plan does make sense.
Keep in mind these numbers were based on "district entries" this past season.

I understand it is based on "district entries" from this past season. Sekavec brought up the issue of head count on high school wrestlers skewing the numbers for district entries that was largely dismissed. D4 just doesn't have the numbers in that category. You remove the H.S. factor and it will paint a different picture on district numbers. Question for the new straw poll coming might touch on if respondents care if that balancing act should include high school head counts. If one cuts out the HS head count considerations then D1 is weaker and D4 is stronger than appears. All it would take to throw the numbers in a district in a given year is one or two large HS program coaches pounding the table and demanding their wrestlers to go wrestle USA. ...Sekavec had a valid point that was dismissed.

Does the majority care if the HS district divisions are included in balancing district numbers? I think there is little reason to be including those HS figures in the balancing act between districts but just my two cents. This perspective would create different district lines needed to balance the districts than what I suggested just prior. D1 might even need Shawnee county back but that would take another intensive numbers crunch.

where can I find the district boundaries for year?

On the home page menu, click on "Clubs"

Thanks....I didn't think that was updated