I understand that this post will probably offend some people and I'm ok with that. Proceed at your own risk.

The 100 Win Club is not what it used to be. I get accused of being too hard at times. So let me use Math to prove my point.

Back in 1991 I joined the 100 Win Club, Yeah Me! My record was 100-18-2. Yes, I just barely came in under the mark and yes they did have draws in the old days.

I figure that the average wrestler got about 30 matches back in my day. That gives a four year varsity wrestler about 120 matches, give or take. Hitting exactly 100 wins, my win percentage was 83.33%. This was the bare minimum percentage a wrestler could have and still make the 100 Win Club.

I took this Average and put it up against the number of matches wrestlers are averaging today. I truly feel that 45 matches a year is average. With 45 matches a year, a four year varsity wrestler will wrestle 180 matches.

I then took my bare minimum of 83.33% from 1991 and put it against 180 matches. The equivalent number of matches a wrestler would need to win to reach this percentage is...150 Matches.

The Bare Minimum Win Percentage for a four year Varsity Wrestler is now 55.55%.

With that being said, I understand that things happen. Wrestlers Blow Knees, Shoulders, have illness, are behind great wrestlers for a year or two. With these wrestlers, 100 wins is still an accomplishment. I'd love for complete varsity records to be posted when congratulating 100 Win Wrestlers. A record of 100-20 is a lot more impressive than a record of 100-80.

I know some are going to think I'm being mean, even rude, but My congratulations will be saved for those hitting 150 wins or 83.33%

Fair points, I also think there us a difference in starting your freshman year above 138, not to say the lighter weights are weaker just the percentage of upper classmen is different.

Beeson doing math...what is this world coming to.

Michael Prieto 162-10---94.19%
Jesse Nunez 147-37---79.89%
Tevin Briscoe 142-14---91.03%
Aaron Lozano 112-53---67.88%
Zeke Herrera 108-36---75.00%
Kaj Perez 108-27---80.00%
Benny Hernandez 105-46---69.54%

I'll be the first to post the records and winning percentage! I would also add that the strength of schedule should count as something!

I agree 100%, competition is huge. Some run to it others run from it. Garden City definitely welcomes competition.

Best 10 Winning percentage in Colby since 1998.
Dustin Reed '13 165 6 96.5%
Eric Luedke '03 142 12 92.2%
Matt Murray '01 127 11 92.0%
Konnor Kriss '12 154 21 88.0%
Cole Garcia '06 127 23 84.7%
Andrew Flanagin '11 93 19 83.0%
Bryce Arnberger '16 110 25 81.5%
Tanner Kriss '09 126 30 80.8%
Austin Hart '16 148 36 80.4%
Nathan Reed '10 115 30 79.3%

There are a couple of 2017 grads that have a chance to make that list?

Agreed about win percentage and number of matches available, but also important to keep in mind not every kid begins there wrestling career at the same time or at the same experience level when they start their high school career which is going to effect their win percentage and ultimately how fast they are able to get to that 100 win or 150 win mark. Don't want to get to over analyzing it. Look at the win percentage, how many matches they wrestled and keep in mind when they started wrestling has an impact on these numbers.

Daniel Butler
105-25 81.5%
Plus 35-16 68% at USAW/UWW National tournaments/WTT in the last year.

Colton Steele
119-45
72%

As far as what a coach deems important and notable - that's up to them and determined by the program. Some things I think are notable; while other programs do not think are notabl. Promoted and recognized stats are up to the program. Obviously 100 wins is not the equivalent to 100 wins a generation ago or two generations ago. I do not promote 100 wins in my program because of that. However, I do promote state Placewinners as many programs do. If you think about it though, a state Placewinner in a current 4 class state organization is not equivalent to a state Placewinner back in the day when there were only 1 or 2 classes. I promote and recognize state placewinners in my program anyway because I deem that accomplishment important. Like I said earlier- I think it depends on the program and what they envision important or recognizable.

Well said Coach Lueders. Accomplishments speak for themselves. Rather than diminish or compare historic (early 1990's) stats maybe we should congratulate and move on. NFL, NCAA, etc. have the same burden...stats are stats but times change. Kids wrestle more matches but 100 ain't easy. For comparison sake, wrestling is better now than it has ever been. Maybe some early guys with 100 wouldn't get there today. Besides, no one is better than I once was.

I feel that 100 wins is a great accomplishment and I congratulate each one of my wrestlers that accomplish this and so should all coaches. In my current senior class, only 2 wrestlers will accomplish 100 career victories. My current group of seniors started with 12 wrestlers when they were freshman. So in 4 years only 2 of those kids will get 100 wins. It would be interesting to see which team currently has the most wrestlers that have 100 wins?

Beeson has a good point and it has to do with the change from days of competition to the points system in the early 90's. Back in the day a high school wrestler was restricted to 10 days of competition, a maximum of four of those days could be used for tournaments; a two day tournament used two days. The total number of competition days did not count post season competition.

As coaches became more "savvy" with the point system scheduling began to maximize the number of matches for the points. This led to the increase in scramble and dual tournaments, both geared to get the wrestlers the maximum five matches per day. This, and a growing lack of full teams, led to a major downturn in dual competitions. Most schools keep duals with their traditional rivals only.

Several years ago at the Hoxie Tournament their 1972 state champions were honored. The team members were introduced and their records given. No one on the team had more than 25 matches for the season. Now many wrestlers have 25 matches by mid-January.

I agree with Coach Lueders, each Coach should deem what they see as important to their program. I was not trying to diminish anyone's accomplishment. I was just providing facts that may or may not have a coach change what they determined as important. Times change and so should what is deemed notable.

I was talking to Jake and he pointed out that a four year wrestler could go 25-20 each year and still get 100 Wins. Hell, they could go 20-25 for their first two years and 30-15 the final two years and still get 100 wins. That is two losing seasons and two mediocre seasons. Not what I would deem commendable.

I do appreciate those coaches that have started posting complete records, Win/Loss and percentages. Even makes a record more enjoyable or noteworthy with a story stating why this is commendable for the wrestler.

On a side note: There are a lot of schools around the State that do not seek out competition. I don't know how many times I have seen an undefeated wrestler that has had no competition show up at State and get beat by a wrestler with several losses whose coach has sought out completion. So 100 wins in one program is definitely not as impressive as 100 wins in another program. But that would just be nit picking.

How many wrestlers out there of all the wrestlers in the state really have records like that? How many wrestlers even get a chance to wrestle entire varsity seasons all 4 years? How many wrestlers have wrestling experience going into their high school years of wrestling? How many wrestlers go all 4 years without an injury that prevents them from getting all the matches that are being talked about of 40 plus matches per season?

Reality check, at the end of the day the winning percentage is the most notable of any stat when it comes to looking at records. 100 wins is not a very big accomplishment if the majority of kids wrestling in the state were getting 40 plus matches on varsity all 4 years of HS wrestling. But without doing the research, I would guess to say that it is a very low percentage of HS wrestlers that get 40 plus varsity matches for 4 straight years of HS wrestling. A program should have a win percentage minimum criteria and if they meet that criteria plus get over 100 wins then that's pretty good and they are in a select category top percentage of wrestlers in the state. Question is, what should that minimum win percentage be for your program more so then should you recognize 100 vs. 125 or 150 wins, etc... I mean give me a break, I have a kid that came out for his first year of wrestling as a freshman, comes from a low income family, no parents, lives with his grandparents, went 1-9 as a freshman only part time on varsity, then goes to a winning record as a sophomore and goes 2-2 at state, then goes 41-6 as a junior and qualifies again for state, and is now a senior with a 32-2 record. We don't shy from tough competition. As a matter of fact I alway bump him up to wrestle the 220 lbs. wrestler if that wrestler is the tougher opponent, even though he weighs 198 lbs. and still maintains the 32-2 current record he has in only his 4th year of wrestling. Now if you don't think that is impressive to be sitting at 100-35 in your senior year when your freshman year was your first year of wrestling, I would have to disagree.

I don't think Beeson is saying it's not an accomplishment - I just think he's saying it is not as rare as it used to be. It used to be extremely rare to get 100 wins. I know at my high school in Iowa - in the 80s - we had around 5 guys that had 100 wins. One was an undefeated 4x State Champ (Finished 128-0) and the others were State Champs and went on to start at D1 colleges.

Now it is rare still - but maybe 2 or 3 years kids a year will have 100 wins from a single team - depending on the team of course.

Anyway - it's an accomplishment - just like being a State Placer or State Champ is an accomplishment. You do you... what you think and do for your program, your kids, and community is all that matters.

So, Scantlin is 148-12 going into Regionals. Now, he has not always had the best competion but he sure has not dodged anyone. Does that winning % still hold up Beeson?