As a poster on this forum and a fan of wrestling I am dismayed to see wrestlers and wrestling fans from each side of the border needling and bickering on such complete ridiculous grounds.

There is a reason wrestling is such an amazing sport, but it doesn't have anything to with state governments. As for most of the people posting on this forum they live where they live due to the job that they have, not due to the government that happens to be controlling where they live at the time. Regionalism and Nationalism are fairly pointless things to argue no matter how proud you are of where you are from.

The reason Missouri has a 50 mile rule and Kansas has a 75 mile rule is completely based on population.

coach neil ... i believe you've been proven wrong ... talk your crap when taplin actually beats him. you're just a typical keyboard warrior who had to flame on typing, grammar, etc ... when you can't debate the actual topic at hand.

if taplin wrestled simpson again ... he would most definitely lose again. as for the rest of the wrestlers you listed ... grayson/moores/caputo would still control those matches as well. good luck next year.

again ... OWNED!

does anyone know where you can order a tape of the event from metro sports. i kno that it doesn't air till friday but if anyone knows it would help

We taped from matside and copies are available in DVD or VHS. VHS are $12, DVD's are 17. Prices include shipping and handling.
Send check, address, and phone number to

Wrestling Video's
12185 South Tallgrass Drive
Olathe, Kansas 66061
913-397-8096

I think from the accounts in this forum one thing is for sure. If Taplin even gets close to turning Simpson as Starcher did, Simpson will start crying for momma to come and save him.

In all seriousness though, it's easy to SAY he'd beat Taplin as if it's a matter of fact. I wouldn't put any money on it if I were you. The KC MO metro area had a load of studs this year in all grades. Was a very tough year for KS in the Metro Classic.

I hate to tell you kids but freestyle wrestling is far different from folkstyle, if Simpson did beat Ross in a freestyle match, that really has no bearing on a folkstyle match. If you've never wrestled a freestyle match you probably wouldn't understand that. In any case we can conjecture all day about who would beat who, but I imgaine these two will see each other again at some point, and we'll find out who comes out on top this time.

But that reminds me, if this kid Simpson really does have a shoulder injury he probably isn't going to last too long in college, trust me I know shoulder injuries, and even after surgury they tend to be unstable. Plus college kids are going to go right after it if they know about it.

nigel very good point on th shoulder ... simpson has loads of talent ... but is weak in the mind. even knowing this i still believe he'd beat taplin again, any style.

and some of you are just full of excuses. et over it - you just got worked this year and next year could be completely different ... wait ... scratch that ... maybe the year after next

ilander27

Again

I believe I said, if we put our best against their best , and neither state sends all of their best wrestlers to this event. I know this for a fact because I have been one of the coaches at this event before and several of my wrestlers have competed in this event, and they were not the best the state had to offer. So, no it is not a true measuring stick for either state’s wrestling programs, so your pressure (impression) is wrong! Neither team is a true reflection of the their state’s prospective programs.

I believe this was the topic at hand.

Ross Taplin would be one of the best the state had to offer, as would be Grater, Cornejo, Baldridge, etc. I don’t think I mentioned anything about who would win. Although, statistically speaking, Ross Taplin is a bit better than Ross Starcher. But, I concede to your infinite knowledge of this sport because you come from Lawrence, the hotbed of Kansas wrestling. I absolutely know nothing of this sport because I am a mere keyboard warrior. Let us all bow to your supremacy of wrestling knowledge.

Owned by ilander27. Oh, the shame!

May be, but we still have better roads. And a higher average ACT composite score.

The correct wording is SWISH, not "owned"...you're a tool.

Thats in resposnse it ilander, not coach neil

neil you're right ... you've been owned and good of you to admit it. the point of the thread is the metro dual not putting kansas' best against missouri's best. start your own dual for that if you want. simple fact is you guys got worked this year, quit crying about it, it's over. and yes to start in on the spelling and that stuff ... very weak.

ifeelfat ... wrong, it's owned you chode

ilander27

Think do I (ilander27) have a conceptual understanding of sarcasm?

To go old school: ilander27 = D to the izoosh.

Repeating: to those those of you who think we could sport a better Kansas team if we went further away and win. I'm sorry to tell you that you're wrong. Ross Taplin lost to Brandon Simpson this summer in dual meet between an all-star Kansas team that had Cornejo, Baldridge, Northern, Perez, Altman, Cisper, Shumate, Elliott, Fisher, Sonderegger, etc. The dual tournment featured a number of teams from Missouri---Mo West/Team ST. Louis/etc. So the Missouri studs were broken up. Team Kansas placed third.
There's no way that an All-Star team from KS beats an All-Star team from MO, not this year.

I know it is Freestyle but Kansas did place at the 2004 Junior National Duals and Team Missouri did not.

Man I think some of you have lost all sense of reality and logic, but it sure is darn entertaining reading some of this crazy stuff. Hey any given wrestler on any given day? who knows?

Yes MO has some great wrestlers and so does Kansas and they went at it and MO won. Quit crying and start training harder KS.

I know that Mark Anderson was the official from KS, who was the official from MO? and I would like to hear more on the whole thing that went down and why he would not shake hands with a KS kid?

Coach Peterman

yes you nutless wonder, i know it was sarcasm ... hence the sarcasm in my response. jesus you aren't very bright are you? did you put your helmet on at least before you left the house this morning?

his name is troy brewer and is not liked by very many here in MO. i witnessed him do that at the mo-kan and it was disgraceful. not the first time he has shown poor sportsmanship, another time being when he was a usa state representative at a youth state championships tournament.

i suppose i should also note that there may very well be some who DO actually like brewer also.

Fudge, did you honestly just call Mark Anderson an idiot? Thats treding on some pretty dangerous waters there, Mark is probably one of the most well known and seasoned officials not only in Kansas but several other states as well. I'm almost speechless at this one.

That reminds me, acording to NFHS, no wrestler is required to shake hands with the opposing coach, most Kansas wrestlers do just because we always have, is there a point to it? Who knows I can see this arguement from both sides really, when I coached I required my kids to do it simply as a matter of sportsmanship. Now shaking the opponents hand after the match IS required by NFHS rules, to not do so in unsportsmanlike and can carry a team point penalty