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#201706 - 02/28/12 04:46 PM Re: The Metro Classic Lineups [Re: Bender]
Bvhswrestler Offline
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Registered: 11/05/10
Posts: 28
Loc: Stilwell, KS, US
see i do not want a fight. he was already selected and there is nothing to do about it. but for people to be on here and bad mouth a kid that did great and has a great oportunity to rep. our state. and sit here and say why this why that is just sad. your right he did not place at basehor he was hurt. and your right he did not get 2 at state. but come on seriously. he is a good wrestler and his record and his finish do speak for themselves. they show he can hold his own.

And bender you are right he does not have criteria "0ver" him but he does have good criteria. Once again beat the state runner up 3 times from 6a had a great match from the state champ from 6a who is ranked above hobson i might add. and the 6a champ lost to the runner up before the state tourney
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#201709 - 02/28/12 05:19 PM Re: The Metro Classic Lineups [Re: Bender]
clarkgriswold Offline
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Registered: 02/21/12
Posts: 29
I cant believe Tommy Williams is not on the team. What criteria does Service from Mill valley have over Williams?

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#201711 - 02/28/12 05:27 PM Re: The Metro Classic Lineups [Re: clarkgriswold]
Cokeley Offline
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Registered: 09/28/01
Posts: 3838
Loc: Lawrence, KS
The wrestle off is what makes this such a great sport. The best man represents his team. Fair and square. Once politics and a meeting start determining who is best then you will have this variety of opinions and erosion of solidarity.
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#201712 - 02/28/12 05:28 PM Re: The Metro Classic Lineups [Re: Bvhswrestler]
Quagmire Offline
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Registered: 02/01/10
Posts: 269
Originally Posted By: Bvhswrestler
see i do not want a fight. he was already selected and there is nothing to do about it. but for people to be on here and bad mouth a kid that did great and has a great oportunity to rep. our state. and sit here and say why this why that is just sad. your right he did not place at basehor he was hurt. and your right he did not get 2 at state. but come on seriously. he is a good wrestler and his record and his finish do speak for themselves. they show he can hold his own.

And bender you are right he does not have criteria "0ver" him but he does have good criteria. Once again beat the state runner up 3 times from 6a had a great match from the state champ from 6a who is ranked above hobson i might add. and the 6a champ lost to the runner up before the state tourney


If what you are saying above is your "good criteria" then I'm sorry but you're only making things worse for Trever. If I was Coach Jobe I would be livid that Hobson did not get picked to be on the team. It does not matter that he was hurt at basehor he still did not place and Hobson did. Haug is ranked above Hobson but at least Hobson is actually ranked. Pearce is not ranked and neither is Trever. If we are trying to win this dual then why do we not have our best wrestlers on the team? If he Hendrickson does not have criteria over Hobson then why should he get the spot over him? I agree Hendrickson is a good wrestler but criteria shows that Hobson is better. Same goes for Tommy Williams. Unless Tommy said he does not want to wrestle, why would we put Service in?

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#201714 - 02/28/12 05:46 PM Re: The Metro Classic Lineups [Re: Quagmire]
Chief Renegade Offline
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Registered: 11/20/03
Posts: 8906
Loc: Matside
They are not changing who they have now. But they SHOULD add a weight to include Tommy Williams or Mark Hobson. Either add Hobson at 152 or get a real 138 pounder for Williams.
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#201719 - 02/28/12 06:19 PM Re: The Metro Classic Lineups [Re: Coach Chapman]
ChrisAH Offline
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Registered: 02/27/12
Posts: 3
Clarkgriswold
My mistake for implying the state finals. Trever beat the kid from Tonganoxie twice this season and i believe that kid beat Hobson in their league tourney. Nonetheless, both of these young men are great and tough wrestlers. The Metro is better for having either of them. Good luck to all of these young men. God bless.

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#201724 - 02/28/12 06:46 PM Re: The Metro Classic Lineups [Re: ChrisAH]
clarkgriswold Offline
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Registered: 02/21/12
Posts: 29
I cant believe Service was picked over Williams. Williams is a %a state runner up, he has wrestled at fargo and duals. How did Service get the nod? Who is picking this team? what criteria are used? It is a shame when a deserving kid like Tommy Williams gets left out.

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#201725 - 02/28/12 06:56 PM Re: The Metro Classic Lineups [Re: clarkgriswold]
FalconCoach Offline
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Registered: 10/21/09
Posts: 391
Loc: Wichita, KS USA
I have a pretty good source that says that Williams declined the invite so Service was picked. Might be something to look into before getting all upset... But I am from Wichita so what do I know???
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#201726 - 02/28/12 07:56 PM Re: The Metro Classic Lineups [Re: FalconCoach]
GT Williams Offline
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Registered: 06/15/06
Posts: 209
Loc: KC
To avoid controversy, I will respond here. Coach Church is correct, Tommy Williams does not want to wrestle against a much heavier opponent, so he declined the invitation to wrestle 138 against a 145, who we were told is at least 15/20 pounds bigger. Tommy is now in his spring sport, and to wrestler would have been difficult from a scheduling standpoint, so we decided to let a heavier kid do it. I think Tommy is under the actual weighin weight, so he was not a big 138. We did tell the coaches if they had a smaller matchup or if one of the smaller guys dropped out to let us know, and we would reconsider. So, thanks to Coach Keal and the other coaches, and organizers, and most of all, good luck to Team Kansas!

Tom Williams

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#201743 - 02/28/12 10:57 PM Re: The Metro Classic Lineups [Re: Bvhswrestler]
avidfan2 Offline
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Registered: 02/14/12
Posts: 2
Originally Posted By: Bvhswrestler
see i do not want a fight. he was already selected and there is nothing to do about it. but for people to be on here and bad mouth a kid that did great and has a great oportunity to rep. our state. and sit here and say why this why that is just sad. your right he did not place at basehor he was hurt. and your right he did not get 2 at state. but come on seriously. he is a good wrestler and his record and his finish do speak for themselves. they show he can hold his own.

And bender you are right he does not have criteria "0ver" him but he does have good criteria. Once again beat the state runner up 3 times from 6a had a great match from the state champ from 6a who is ranked above hobson i might add. and the 6a champ lost to the runner up before the state tourney


First off Congrats Hendrickson and to all those with strong finishes to their seasons.

But just to clear up a falsehood, he beat the 6a State Runner up twice not three times. I believe they were both toward the beginning of the season.

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#201746 - 02/28/12 11:14 PM Re: The Metro Classic Lineups [Re: avidfan2]
Butch Drylie Offline
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Registered: 02/19/11
Posts: 54
Loc: Hays, Ks.
You have to be kidding. Bonner at 220 and not Luke Bean someone must be BLIND.

Butch Drylie
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#201747 - 02/28/12 11:17 PM Re: The Metro Classic Lineups [Re: Butch Drylie]
Quagmire Offline
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Registered: 02/01/10
Posts: 269
Im pretty sure Luke Bean doesn't live in the Kansas city metro area...

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#201748 - 02/28/12 11:17 PM Re: The Metro Classic Lineups [Re: Butch Drylie]
Kale Mann Offline
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Registered: 10/22/03
Posts: 188
Loc: Shawnee Kansas
Originally Posted By: Butch Drylie
You have to be kidding. Bonner at 220 and not Luke Bean someone must be BLIND.

Butch Drylie
785-650-4404


I don't think Wichita is in the Kansas City Metro area- at least not on the maps I've seen lately.
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#201750 - 02/28/12 11:29 PM Re: The Metro Classic Lineups [Re: Kale Mann]
Butch Drylie Offline
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Registered: 02/19/11
Posts: 54
Loc: Hays, Ks.
Baldwin city aint KC Metro either the last time i was there it is farther than NATHAN BUTLER.

Butch Drylie
785-650-4404
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#201751 - 02/28/12 11:53 PM Re: The Metro Classic Lineups [Re: Butch Drylie]
AAA Offline
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Registered: 03/09/08
Posts: 152
Butler wont be eligible til next yr, Baldwin City is within the radius they allow.

Kevin Seybold

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#201795 - 02/29/12 02:17 PM Re: The Metro Classic Lineups [Re: AAA]
gymrat Offline
Junior Member

Registered: 02/29/12
Posts: 8
You know i was wondering whether or not to even post this, but i really would have loved a heads up on not being on the team anymore. granted i dislocated my shoulder at state in the semis, but nobody told me anything. i just wish io would have been kept more in the loop.

Nick Pursel

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#201820 - 02/29/12 07:59 PM Re: The Metro Classic Lineups [Re: gymrat]
On_the_Mat Offline
Member

Registered: 03/25/02
Posts: 201
Loc: whoville, KS
Austin Veach- the class 3A -220 lbs STATE CHAMP from Doniphan West (Highland,KS) is a BEAST (ran through his State Bracket-1st period pinfall in Finals) ! ..and should be given serious consideration if another big man is needed for Team Kansas.


also Hunter Speer of Horton- 126# who gave 4 timer Shumacher a pretty solid match in the State Finals.

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#201823 - 02/29/12 09:10 PM Re: The Metro Classic Lineups [Re: On_the_Mat]
usawks1 Offline
Member

Registered: 07/09/01
Posts: 7225
Loc: Ottawa
I can assure you that Veach received heavy consideration and Hunter was amongst those left out at a loaded weight!
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#201847 - 03/01/12 06:16 AM Re: The Metro Classic Lineups [Re: usawks1]
michaewa Offline
Junior Member

Registered: 03/01/12
Posts: 4
Loc: Missouri
Hey there - this is Andy from Blue Chip. Sorry to jump in here but the gang wanted to let everyone going to metro know about these shirts. If you have any questions please let me know!

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#202003 - 03/01/12 06:31 PM Re: The Metro Classic Lineups [Re: michaewa]
Elbow Offline
Junior Member

Registered: 02/21/12
Posts: 12
Clarkgriswold, and to whoever else it may concern,
Service is a tough kid and I am sure he will represent kansas well, and I can see why some would prefer Tommy, but its not cool to go on blast when you dont like the line up and to call kids out, its kind of disrespectful to those who made the team. Obviously these kids worked hard and someone saw it and deemed them worthy of wrestling for our state.

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