I agree Ware was a stud, but I once again I think you need to include Lyle Geyer into this conversation then, as he won OW at that same senior Nationals, and if I remember correct he didnt give a take down in that tournament, he pinned eveyone until the finals, and he majored his guy there. Just my opinion.

Lance Geyer

Beard had 2 losses his Sophomore year. Plus the one loss to Kriss at the senior classic when Beard bumped up a weight.

Still, that is very dominant.

But by his age he would have been a JR. That is something else to look at, Beard and Caldwell both red-shirted their 8th grade year in New Mexico if I remember correctly. That is the main reason I have a problem putting either of them in the top 10.

No disagreement there, I just think he wasn't as dominant as some other guys.



I remember that too. I don't want to get off topic, but the "high school red-shirt" is becoming more and more common these days it seems like. Not saying it's right or wrong but there are lots reasons kids do it. Whether its because of the kids size, they're behind academically, or because the parents want their kid to have an edge athletically people are always going to find a way to do it.

Anyways...
Back to the topic at hand, Caldwell had some impressive high school wins including a pin over Maple his their freshman year at state plus some pretty good freestyle and greco accomplishments. I believe Boaz was a pretty good baseball player and focused on that over the summer. Didn't he leave Iowa state for a year to play baseball at Emporia state?

There are ALOT of 3X Champions that would have been 4X had they started their Sophmore year and had one more year. 8th grade redshirt in my opinion deserves an asterix.

I think Beard had some injuries and didn't wrestle complete seasons every year. Give me some time and I will dig up his career record. Still a stud, I believe Trent Cox did an 8th grade RS year too.

Ok, got it.

30-2, 40-0, 10-0, 28-0 for a total of 108-2. Not shabby. Impressive that he won as a FR at 152.

Beard only wrestled 10 times his junior year i know that.

Was Bo Maynes (Salina South) never taken down in four years?

Zach Roberson, four yrs undefeated

40-0 as a FR*, 30-2 as a Soph.

They actually agreed on a catch weight.

Got to agree with Beeson. We are ranking kids on dominance, but yet allow kids that "red shirt" to be in the same conversation. Great wrestlers no doubt, but it's a clear advantage to mature and refine yours skills another year.

I will also say the kids that dominate at bigger weights at a young age deserve a bump in the conversation. Cotton comes to mind as one of the best I have seen.

Also remember this conversation is prep careers.

I wasn't trying to take any thing away from Kriss, I mean size doesn't make a huge difference at that level, (i would know) was just stating that Beard accepted the challenge and it didn't go his way. Catch weight or not you can't deny Kriss made Beard look tiny when they wrestled.

That is correct. My problem with adding Bo to the conversation is strength of schedule. Great Wrestler and Great Career, but who did he wrestle?

Off the top of my head, Dusty Spaulding.

I will also say and this might offend some people that just as winning at 103 or similar as a FR should have less impact than 130-160, so should guys that dominate at heavyweight. There have been some great heavies that come out of KS, but they do not face the depth of competitors that a middle weights does.

Oeser
Cotton
Boyle
Weigel (the best HS wrestler on top I have personally seen)
Roberson (undefeated HS career and many national wins in HS) don't care what weight he started at.

JMO-alot of great conversation.

Here is my list...

Zac Roberson
Eric Akin
Roy Oeser
Jim Ramirez
Justin Ware
Todd Drake
Romero Cotton
Jacob Klein
Temoer Terry
Jeff Boyle

Good list. Here is my list in no particular order.

Zac Roberson
Eric Akin
Lyle Geyer
Justin Ware
Romero Cotton
Temoer Terry
Jeff Boyle
Preston Weigel
Randy Roark
Bo Maynes

I forgot about this bad dude from the past... Chris Bell Salina Central - He was a brick outhouse and dominated at the lower weights. Wrestled at Wyoming with another tough hombre Lonny Currier from Ulysses. He was a 3xer as well. Weren't many 4xers in the 70s and 80's. NONE prior to Doug Duell in 1975...