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Re: 2015 Bobcat Classic [Re: Beeson] #232868 01/16/15 03:23 PM
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Originally Posted By: Beeson
The thought had crossed my mind. whistle wink



I have no internal knowledge of the situation, but it could be very possible that Dulgarian was wrestling 170 because that made their team stronger. I believe Haug has been injured recently, so maybe Dulgarian chose to wrestle closer to his natural weight?

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Originally Posted By: Cokeley
There will be some great semi finals matches tonight!


Does anyone know the estimated start time of the semi's tonight?

Thanks

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Are the finals being televised? Metro sports?

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Are the finals being televised? Metro sports?


The finals will be shown on www.810varsity.com


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After Day 1

Team Scores
1. Goddard 179.0
2. St. James Academy 153.5
3. Smithville 137.0
4. Olathe North 129.5
5. Platte County 106.5
6. Junction City 95.5
7. Basehor-Linwood 92.0
8. Topeka Seaman 83.5
9. Mountain Range 67.0
10. Santa Fe Trail 60.0
11. Lansing 58.0
11. Prairie View 58.0
13. Bonner Springs 57.0
14. Baldwin 55.0
15. Blue Springs 50.0
16. Clay Center 48.5
17. Columbus 45.5
18. Glenwood 41.0
19. Pittsburg 35.5
20. ACCHS 35.0
20. St. Thomas Aquinas 35.0
22. Blue Valley 32.0
23. Rossville 31.0
24. Tonganoxie 30.5
25. Olathe South 28.0
26. Turner 26.0
27. Andale 25.0
28. Osawatomie 22.5
29. Chapman 19.0
30. Bishop Ward 18.0
31. Fort Scott 13.0
31. Paola 13.0
33. Riley County 8.0
34. Piper 0.0

Tournament Results
106 Results
Guaranteed Places
2nd Place - Levi Green of Baldwin
2nd Place - Cody Phippen of Basehor-Linwood
6th Place - Max Bazan of Junction City
6th Place - Jevon Parrish of Olathe North
1st Place Match
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113 Results
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2nd Place - Louie Romero of Mountain Range
2nd Place - Alex Rivera of Smithville
6th Place - Tanner Hitchcock of Bonner Springs
6th Place - Riley Alderman of Olathe North
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120 Results
Guaranteed Places
2nd Place - Collin Wallar of Bonner Springs
2nd Place - Corbin Nirschl of Basehor-Linwood
6th Place - Jeremy King of Blue Springs
6th Place - Will Spexarth of Goddard
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126 Results
Guaranteed Places
2nd Place - Matthew Schmitt of Platte County
2nd Place - Jon Trowbridge of Basehor-Linwood
6th Place - Khamin Crow of Topeka Seaman
6th Place - Christian Bowen of Goddard
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132 Results
Guaranteed Places
2nd Place - Zak Hensley of St. James Academy
2nd Place - Brody Lamb of Smithville
6th Place - Sky Summers of Lansing
6th Place - Garrett Lange of Goddard
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138 Results
Guaranteed Places
2nd Place - Stephen Tujague of St. James Academy
2nd Place - Kameron Frame of Goddard
6th Place - Zack Martinez of Mountain Range
6th Place - Downey Wood of Junction City
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145 Results
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2nd Place - Kendall Frame of Goddard
2nd Place - Ethan Karsten of Platte County
6th Place - Jake Bazan of Junction City
6th Place - Tyler Moulden of Olathe North
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152 Results
Guaranteed Places
2nd Place - Jeryl Denton of Junction City
2nd Place - Sammy Cokeley of St. James Academy
6th Place - Jon Pratt of Baldwin
6th Place - Austin Andres of Goddard
1st Place Match
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160 Results
Guaranteed Places
2nd Place - Isaac Dulgarian of Olathe North
2nd Place - William Holland of Prairie View
6th Place - Aryus Jones of Junction City
6th Place - Clay Lautt of St. James Academy
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170 Results
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2nd Place - Matt Pratt of St. James Academy
2nd Place - Taylor Watkins of Columbus
6th Place - JQuan Robinson of Junction City
6th Place - Cale Davidson of Goddard
1st Place Match
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3rd Place Match
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5th Place Match
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7th Place Match
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182 Results
Guaranteed Places
2nd Place - Emilio Fowler of Olathe North
2nd Place - Tyler Harris of St. James Academy
6th Place - Dillon Weaver of ACCHS
6th Place - Luke Sachs of Smithville
1st Place Match
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3rd Place Match
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5th Place Match
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195 Results
Guaranteed Places
2nd Place - Bailey Kelly of Topeka Seaman
2nd Place - Caleb Ward of Lansing
6th Place - Cordell Dunlop of Prairie View
6th Place - Jacob Boyd of Smithville
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220 Results
Guaranteed Places
2nd Place - Corey Atkins of Goddard
2nd Place - Ben Ewing of St. Thomas Aquinas
6th Place - Ethan Dean of Santa Fe Trail
6th Place - Mason Fuller of Blue Valley
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3rd Place Match
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285 Results
Guaranteed Places
2nd Place - Chase Miller of Olathe North
2nd Place - Jacob Bohlken of Smithville
6th Place - Ian Hall of Topeka Seaman
6th Place - Jake Hastings of Santa Fe Trail
1st Place Match
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3rd Place Match
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5th Place Match
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7th Place Match
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Re: 2015 Bobcat Classic [Re: smokeycabin] #232889 01/17/15 01:31 PM
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Grading the seeds... Some bizarre statements were made in yesterday's Bobcat seeding meeting that resulted in some nonstandard bracket placements. Seeding has been beaten like a old throw rug on this forum. The number one INTENT of seeding is to separate the top 4 wrestlers in an order of expected placement based on information/data that would assist. In MANY cases supporting data is NOT needed especially if you have HEAD to HEAD and COMMON opponent information. HEAD to HEAD ALWAYS being the NUMBER ONE criteria (unless there were extenuating circumstances such as an inj def, yes it is still a win but all coaches should know that it doesn't mean the best wrestler got the W). Records are supporting data but EVERYONE knows it doesn't matter what your record is if you haven't wrestled any tough competition! This far into the season, the only data from last year that is pertinent is the state tournament finish (and if you are reaching for help a head to head match up). Does summer wrestling matter?? For God's sake if you have a Fargo FREESTYLE ALL AMERICAN in Cadets of Juniors (better take a special look at those brackets below 106 in Cadets and below 120 in Juniors) it better be recognized. I did say FREESTYLE!! Greco finishes can distinguish a wrestler but the style differences are different. No official is Folkstyle is going to be yelling "Head up" to help a wrestler set up his head lock. smile The practice of using your own tournament's information is low on the list of important criteria. I don't care what tournament in KS you are, the STATE tournament is EVERY wrestler's goal so all other finishes are not as relevant. Other important things to note... in today's world many of our wrestlers approach this with an 11 month plan. I know KS wrestlers that log over 120 matches from March 1 to the November practice start date. Is this relevant?? I say HECK YES! That is three high school seasons of matches against wrestlers who also have an 11 month plan. If you are Joe Blow sitting on the couch, playing soccer, playing baseball, or just lifting weights you just let a FR become a SR in experience, while you didn't advance your skills one bit!

Why is this important? When you don't properly separate the four best it won't make one bit of difference who becomes the champion. What it will impact is team score and the destiny of the lower seeds.

I SAY GET IT RIGHT!! or just randomly draw in everyone so there is no ego or bias involved at all!

GRADING THE 2014 BOBCAT SEEDING

SEED 106 Results
Guaranteed Places
3 1st Place - Corbin Nirschl of Basehor-Linwood
1 2nd Place - Matthew Schmitt of Platte County
4 3rd Place - Nate Keim of Collinsville
5 4th Place - Lane Glover of Goddard
6 5th Place - Tyler Flood of Paola
2 6th Place - Louie Romero of Mountain Range
NS 7th Place - Gage Harmon of Blue Springs
8 8th Place - Bryce Gfeller of Rossville

113 Results
Guaranteed Places
2 1st Place - Josiah Seaton of Bonner Springs
5 2nd Place - Case Pemberton of Prairie View
1 3rd Place - Stephen Tujague of St. James Academy
4 4th Place - Khamin Crow of Topeka Seaman
3 5th Place - Matthew Barmann of Platte County
6 6th Place - Zack Eck of Andale
8 7th Place - Will Spexarth of Goddard
7 8th Place - Hunter Sparrow of Smithville

120 Results
2 1st Place - Christian Bowen of Goddard
1 2nd Place - Jacob Findley of Collinsville
8 3rd Place - Brody Lamb of Smithville
4 4th Place - Timmy Romero of Mountain Range
NS 5th Place - Gabe Padilla of Junction City
3 6th Place - Gabe Gooch of St. Thomas Aquinas
6 7th Place - Jaelynn Gay of Topeka Seaman
NS 8th Place - Brett Lemon of Chapman

126 Results
Guaranteed Places
1 1st Place - Reese Cokeley of St. James Academy
2 2nd Place - Kendall Frame of Goddard
4 3rd Place - Thomas Lisher of Baldwin
3 4th Place - PJ Cheney of Turner
5 5th Place - Jerad Heckman of Fort Scott
7 6th Place - Cole Peckham of Glenwood
8 7th Place - Zack Martinez of Mountain Range
NS 8th Place - Jake Bollinger of Smithville

132 Results
Guaranteed Places
2 1st Place - Zak Henlsey of St. James Academy
1 2nd Place - Clayton Himpel of Tonganoxie
4 3rd Place - Ethan Karsten of Platte County
5 4th Place - Dakotah McGarrah of Collinsville
6 5th Place - Matt Malcom of Glenwood
3 6th Place - Kameron Frame of Goddard
8 7th Place - Dylan Eck of Andale
7 8th Place - Jake Gentry of Rossville

138 Results
Guaranteed Places
1 1st Place - Gary Wayne Harding of Collinsville
2 2nd Place - Tyler Mies of Andale
3 3rd Place - Jake Elbrader of St. Thomas Aquinas
7 4th Place - Caleb Crabtree of Platte County
5 5th Place - Christian Frame of Goddard
4 6th Place - Tucker Clark of Baldwin
6 7th Place - Willy Dieckman of ACCHS
8 8th Place - Cole Hoing of Lansing

145 Results
Guaranteed Places
1 1st Place - Michael Olsen of Lansing
2 2nd Place - Andrew Tujague of St. James Academy
5 3rd Place - Jacob Durossette of Fort Scott
4 4th Place - Kaleb Konitzer of Prairie View
6 5th Place - Johnny Blankenship of Platte County
3 6th Place - Will Steltzlen of Collinsville
NA 7th Place - Jacob Smith of Turner
NA 8th Place - Bryce Golightley of Royal Valley

152 Results
Guaranteed Places
1 1st Place - Tagen Lambotte of Rossville
2 2nd Place - Issac Dulgarian of St. Thomas Aquinas
5 3rd Place - Asher Huseman of Tonganoxie
4 4th Place - Dalton Tipton of Smithville
6 5th Place - John Hopper of Basehor-Linwood
3 6th Place - Andrew Millsap of Junction City
8 7th Place - Patrick Romero of Mountain Range
NS 8th Place - Dylan Housworth of Goddard

160 Results
Guaranteed Places
1 1st Place - Daniel Lewis of Blue Springs
2 2nd Place - Taylor Watkins of Columbus
6 3rd Place - Ben VanLerberg of St. James Academy
3 4th Place - Luke Henes of St. Thomas Aquinas
8 5th Place - Cory McCleary of Basehor-Linwood
4 6th Place - Brett Woodruff of Goddard
NS 7th Place - Owen Tuckfield of Baldwin
5 8th Place - Jeryl Denton of Junction City

170 Results
Guaranteed Places
3 1st Place - Matt Pratt of St. James Academy
1 2nd Place - Tyler Harris of Atchison
2 3rd Place - Bailey Wilson of Smithville
5 4th Place - Scott Birkinsha of ACCHS
4 5th Place - Isaac Luellen of Rossville
NS 6th Place - Zack Witt of Chapman
6 7th Place - Micah Felton of Junction City
NS 8th Place - Chance Ogden of Royal Valley

182 Results
Guaranteed Places
2 1st Place - Trent Salsbury of St. James Academy
1 2nd Place - Gavin Grater of Riley County
5 3rd Place - Jackson Macoubrie of Blue Valley
6 4th Place - Luke Sachs of Smithville
3 5th Place - Jace McDown of Columbus
8 6th Place - Roc Robbins of Collinsville
7 7th Place - Cordell Dunlop of Prairie View
NS 8th Place - Collyn Allen of Blue Springs

195 Results
Guaranteed Places
1 1st Place - Michael Pixley of Blue Springs
2 2nd Place - Caleb Ward of Lansing
NS 3rd Place - Mario Garcia of Baldwin
8 4th Place - Jacob Bohlken of Smithville
3 5th Place - Bailey Kelly of Topeka Seaman
7 6th Place - Bradley VanHoose of Columbus
NS 7th Place - Luke Carey of Tonganoxie
NS 8th Place - Micheal Barnett of Platte County

220 Results
Guaranteed Places
1 1st Place - Ben Ewing of St. Thomas Aquinas
3 2nd Place - Corey Atkins of Goddard
2 3rd Place - Keenan Priddy of Collinsville
6 4th Place - Tiler Garcia of Baldwin
5 5th Place - Kayne Hutchinson of Junction City
4 6th Place - Hector Porter of Lansing
8 7th Place - David Feist of St. James Academy
NS 8th Place - Austin Napier of Columbus

285 Results
Guaranteed Places
1 1st Place - Jorge Rodriquez of Mountain Range
2 2nd Place - Jason Zook of Chapman
NS 3rd Place - Jake Douglass of Collinsville
6 4th Place - Carter Gragg of Goddard
4 5th Place - Brendon Blackburn of Fort Scott
3 6th Place - Mason Naphy of Lansing
NS 7th Place - Jake Hastings of Santa Fe Trail
NS 8th Place - Colin Ransom of Glenwood



14 TOTAL
18 Nonseeds placed 84.0%
8 Firsts 57.1%
6 Seconds 42.9%
1 Thirds 7.1%
4 Fourths 28.6%
3 Fifths 21.4%
1 Sixths 7.1%
1 Seventh 7.1%
2 Eighths 14.3%
FINALIST 24/28 86% Pretty good but also the easiest!


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Wow Will! who cares what the seeds were last year?


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WTF?

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Is the link working??? I can't get anything

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thanks Chief!

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Has there ever been a 4 timer at the Bobcat?

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Has there ever been a 4 timer at the Bobcat?
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Seeding the finals...Bobcat vs Newton

Bobcat Newton
1-2 4-2
4-2 1-2
1-7 1-2
1-3 1-2
1-2 1-3
1-2 4-7
1-2 1-2
NS-3 1-2
1-6 1-2
1-2 1-2
1-2 1-6
1-2 1-2
1-2 1-2
1-4 5-3

SUMMARY:
Newton had 9 of 14 finals spot on while the Bobcat had 8. Newton only had 6 non top 2 seeds in the finals while Bobcat had 7. The Bobcat had a seeded finalist in 13 of 14 while Newton had two finals without a seeded finalist. The lowest seed to make the finals in Newton was a while a Non Seeded wrestler made it at the Bobcat.

Just some data I wanted to share before I round filed my notes! wink Looking forward to this weekend's action.


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Bobcat seeding was jacked.
Not sure who does it, but pretty sure they went off last years results. Saw too many quarters and semi-finals matches that should have been different.
Hope they take a close look at this years match-ups, for next year. Not who placed where.

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