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Re: 2016-17 All-Class Rankings! [Re: Old Dawg 21] #245237 03/01/17 11:23 PM
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Originally Posted By: Old Dawg 21
Actually I think it should be Green --- Duhart --- Willis --- Duncan --- Cox
2 commons between Green and Duhart
Duhart beat Kuhn 3-2 at Beloit. Green beat Kuhn 3 times by more than 1
And Duhart beat Gautschi of Newton 4-1 at regionals and he didn't place at TOC which Green was the Champion


Those Green v Duhart commons are not criteria. Though you did leave out their common match with Christiensen, who Duhart pinned and Green beat 6-5.


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So Chad you are saying that someone who wasn't even a State Champion should be ranked above someone who did have their hand raised
How does that make any sense.
#1 criteria to be ranked #1 should be that you won your last match

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How are they not common opponents when they wrestled the same guy

Another common opponent with Green and Duncan was Marcos Fischer--Dodge City
Duncan won 9-3
Green won 13-2

Re: 2016-17 All-Class Rankings! [Re: Old Dawg 21] #245240 03/01/17 11:39 PM
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Did you see the match?


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Re: 2016-17 All-Class Rankings! [Re: Old Dawg 21] #245241 03/01/17 11:41 PM
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Can someone please answer why Duncan should be above Duhart? I didn't see the match. All i know is that Duhart has one loss and it was at Regionals to Duncan and then he avenged that loss at state. I dont understand under what possible criteria the Duncan is above Duhart


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Re: 2016-17 All-Class Rankings! [Re: Coach Malay] #245242 03/01/17 11:42 PM
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Watch the match on Track.


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Re: 2016-17 All-Class Rankings! [Re: Old Dawg 21] #245243 03/01/17 11:47 PM
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Originally Posted By: Old Dawg 21
How are they not common opponents when they wrestled the same guy

Another common opponent with Green and Duncan was Marcos Fischer--Dodge City
Duncan won 9-3
Green won 13-2


The Christiensen common...

Duhart pinned.
Green beat 6-5.

To be clear... margin of victory in commons carries very little weight!


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Re: 2016-17 All-Class Rankings! [Re: Chief Renegade] #245244 03/01/17 11:50 PM
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Tried to watch the match and it never loaded

Re: 2016-17 All-Class Rankings! [Re: Old Dawg 21] #245245 03/01/17 11:56 PM
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Cant find it. It says there is no video


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Re: 2016-17 All-Class Rankings! [Re: Chief Renegade] #245246 03/01/17 11:57 PM
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Duhart pinned Christiansen in OT
Pretty close to a 1 point match

Re: 2016-17 All-Class Rankings! [Re: Old Dawg 21] #245247 03/02/17 12:00 AM
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Someone please direct me to the video

And even if it is a bad call I have read on this forum many times don't leave it up to the referee

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Originally Posted By: Old Dawg 21
How are they not common opponents when they wrestled the same guy

Another common opponent with Green and Duncan was Marcos Fischer--Dodge City
Duncan won 9-3
Green won 13-2


They both won! The definition of having a common over someone involves beating a guy who another lost to.


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Re: 2016-17 All-Class Rankings! [Re: Chief Renegade] #245249 03/02/17 12:45 AM
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I am working on the final All-Class rankings and the invitations are currently going out for our Denver All-Class Team on March 16-19. Any criteria input and discussion is appreciated!

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INDIVIDUAL RANKINGS:

106
1. Michael Spangler - KMC - 11 - 5A - 38-1
2. Brian Gates - HUT - 11 - 6A - 38-0
3. Keegan Slyter - ON - 9 - 6A - 40-2
4. Gabe Buckbee - ARK - 10 - 5A - 11-2
5. Grant Treaster - NEW - 9 - 5A - 34-7
6. Brandon Madden - BVSW - 9 - 5A - 40-5
7. Hunter Bindi - STA - 10 - 5A - 21-4
8. Kai Rhea - HC - 11 - 6A - 44-8
9. Dallas Koelzer - OS - 9 - 6A - 33-13
10. Preston Martin - PAO - 9 - 4A - 35-3


113
1. Jayson West - MZS - 11 - 4A - 36-2
2. Bret Minor - STA - 10 - 5A - 41-2
3. Daryl Rylant - CLW - 10 - 4A - 36-3
4. Dawson Podlena - SEA - 12 - 5A - 45-4
5. Jacob Holt - GC - 9 - 6A - 36-13
6. Drew Burgoon - SLC - 10 - 5A - 35-4
7. Blaine Harris - BEL - 11 - 3A - 34-2
8. Kolby Beitz - EUR - 10 - 3A - 26-3
9. Kobe Grijalva - DB - 10 - 6A - 34-9
10. Charles Brockman - SMNW - 10 - 6A - 40-3


120
1. Dylan Gowin - MV - 12 - 5A - 23-2
2. Mason Turner - SCH - 11 - 5A - 33-1
3. Logan Treaster - NEW - 12 - 5A - 37-2
4. Boo Dryden - HC - 12 - 6A - 41-2
5. Dallas Wilson - WS - 12 - 6A - 32-7
6. Jace Koelzer - OS - 11 - 6A - 45-2
7. Will Spexarth - GD - 12 - 5A - 34-10
8. Dylan Pelland - PRT - 12 - 4A - 29-2
9. Tate Carney - CLB - 12 - 4A - 39-3
10. Ryan Johnson - NOR - 11 - 3A - 29-3


126
1t. Jevon Parrish - ON - 11 - 6A - 35-1
1t. Marcus Robinson - ARK - 11 - 5A - 40-3
3. Logan Pirl - GD - 10 - 5A - 20-5
4. Tanner Hitchcock - BS - 12 - 4A - 39-1
5. Tate Withington - GDL - 12 - 4A - 44-1
6. Devin Gomez - VC - 9 - 5A - 35-6
7. Aidan Campbell - MZ - 10 - 5A - 43-8
8. Noah Nemer - SPH - 11 - 4A - 37-6
9. Gunnar Murray - WR - 11 - 6A - 34-4
10. Devin Onwugbufor - - WNW - 11 - 6A - 21-1


132
1. Corbin Nirschl - BL - 12 - 4A - 39-1
2. Dayton Porsch - HOX - 10 - 3A - 29-0
3. Montez Robinson - ARK - 10 - 5A - 32-11
4. Conner Ward - MV - 11 - 5A - 36-4
5. Riley Tubbs - WAB - 11 - 3A -
6. Riley Alderman - ON - 12 - 6A - 35-3
7. Lane Glover - GD - 12 - 5A - 25-8
8. Brenner Vogan - SS - 11 - 5A - 34-7
9. Bubba Wilson - MH - 10 - 6A - 38-7
10. Brandon Becker - DB - 11 - 6A - 29-7


138
1. Jake Beeson - ARK - 11 - 5A - 42-2
2. Tyler Flood - ON - 12 - 6A - 27-0
3. Cade Lindsey - DB - 10 - 6A - 40-5
4. Tate Steele - LFS - 11 - 6A - 30-3
5. Austin Eldredge - MCP - 12 - 4A - 41-3
6. Zach Eck - AN - 12 - 4A - 36-4
7. Hunter Ostertag - ACC - 12 - 3A - 32-3
8. Pedro Ordonez - HUG - 12 - 3A - 29-1
9. Keaton Sander - GB - 12 - 5A - 40-5
10. Jarrett Bendure - MV - 11 - 5A - 36-7


145
1. Mason Wallace - MH - 12 - 6A - 43-2
2. Jonathan Ball - HOI - 12 - 3A - 42-0
3. Garrett Lange - GD - 11 - 5A - 40-3
4. Paul Stuart - AND - 12 - 5A - 34-5
5. Tristan Porsch - HOX - 12 - 3A - 14-1
6. Colby Johnson - BUR - 12 - 4A - 41-0
7. Tylor Garcia - DC - 12 - DC - 6A - 39-6
8. Triston Wills - 10 - DB - 6A - 10-2
9. Colton Hutchinson - 11 - SC - 3A - 37-7
8. Kolby Droegemeier - WAB - 11 - 3A - 47-5


152
1. Kameron Frame - GD - 12 - 5A - 40-2
2. Anthony Scantlin - MUL - 12 - 4A - 42-0
3. Jalin Harper - MH - 11 - 6A - 41-2
4. Nick Lucas - PRT - 12 - 4A - 37-3
5. Christopher Ball - HOI - 11 - 3A - 39-2
6. Jarrett Jurgens - SCC - 11 - 4A - 33-2
7. Trent Wright - NOR - 12 - 3A - 33-5
8. Wes Jameson - PT - 12 - 5A - 31-7
9. Don Boone - VC - 12 - 5A - 30-7
10. Donivyn Will - SLC - 12 - 34-8


160
1. Sammy Cokeley - SJA - 12 - 5A - 44-4
2. Kendall Frame - GD - 12 - 5A - 25-3
3. Hunter Mullin - CC - 12 - 4A - 39-2
4. Isaiah Luellen - ROS - 11 - 3A - 38-3
5. Jack Maki - AND - 12 - 5A - 38-4
6. Brandon Mlekus - FRT - 12 - 4A - 36-2
7. Terrell Garraway - ON - 11 - 6A - 33-7
8. Wyatt Hayes - SCC - 10 - 4A - 34-3
9. Zach Porter - COL - 11 - 4A - 26-7
10. Gable Howerton - 11 - 3A - 36-6


170
1. Daniel Butler - LV - 12 - 5A - 38-0
2. Troy Fisher - GD - 10 - 5A - 30-2
3. Dacota Motter - ELD - 12 - 4A - 33-1
4. Jacob Mintzmyer - MRV - 12 - 3A - 42-0
5. Nick Jouret - OS - 11 - 6A - 42-3
6. Tyler Price - HOL - 12 - 4A - 38-6
7. Chance Rodriguez - HLC - 11 - 4A - 44-3
8. Michael Waggoner - RC - 10 - 3A - 35-8
9. Tabor Erickson - OBR - 12 - 3A - 26-2
10. Santino Gee - LAW - 12 - 6A - 35-7


182
1. Clay Lautt - SJA - 12 - 5A - 48-1
2. Wyatt Hendrickson - NEW - 10 - 5A - 34-6
3. Austin Andres - GD - 11 - 5A - 40-6
4. Jesse Nunez - GC - 12 - 6A - 39-8
5. Aryus Jones - JC - 12 - 6A - 29-3
6. Trey Hoerner - ABL - 11 - 4A - 40-1
7. Dylan Servis - DC - 12 - 6A - 39-9
8. Josh Seabolt - CIM - 11 - 3A - 35-1
9. Ryan Tiers - CC - 12 - 4A - 32-8
10. Jacob Stryker - MRV - 12 - 3A - 37-7


195
1. Cale Davidson - GD - 12 - 5A - 36-1
2. Dylan Prince - PIT - 12 - 5A - 32-5
3. Anthony Capul - AN - 12 - 4A - 40-0
4. Zeke Herrera - GC - 12 - 6A - 39-5
5. Sam Weldon - VC - 12 - 5A - 37-6
6. Anthony Gaona - STA - 11 - 5A - 41-5
7. Jacob Jenkins - CHP - 12 - 3A - 34-1
8. Sean Singleton - BS - 12 - 4A - 38-4
9. Blaine Ray - OTT - 12 - 4A - 42-4
10. Gavin Ware - CC - 11 - 4A - 20-4


220
1. Deveron Duncan - PT - 12 - 5A - 28-3
2. Jacob Green - NOR - 12 - 3A - 30-1
3. Cordel Duhart - BVSW - 11 - 5A - 41-1
4. Caleb Willis - BS - 10 - 4A - 37-1
5. Chris Cox - OAK - 11 - 3A - 28-3
6. Davon Spexarth - AN - 12 - 4A - 38-5
7. Kasdon Arehart - WS - 11 - 6A - 43-3
8. Devin Haas - CHY - 12 - 3A - 30-1
9. Marcos Fisher - DC - 10 - 6A - 29-9
10. Matt Kimber - HC - 12 - 6A - 25-8


285
1. Kayne Hutchison - PT - 12 - 5A - 39-1
2. Joseph Gilbertson - WNW - 12 - 6A - 35-3
3. Benny Hernandez - GC - 12 - 6A - 36-5
4. Jake Hastings - SFT - 12 - 4A - 37-2
5. Eldon Picou - MH - 12 - 6A - 39-6
6. Collyn Auker - NOR - 11 - 3A - 30-6
7. Taye Washington - HOX - 10 - 3A - 22-5
8. Sam Christy - SPH - 12 - 4A - 36-7
9. Ethan Jay - CLB - 12 - 4A - 40-7
10. Sam Burt - ABL - 4A - 12 - 4A - 36-8



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Re: 2016-17 All-Class Rankings! [Re: Chief Renegade] #245250 03/02/17 12:57 AM
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I still dont agree with 113,this is my opinion

West
Minor (Has a loss to Burgoon but won state and beat Podlena)
Podlena (wins over Holt and Burgoon)
Holt(win over Harris)
Harris (win over Beitz)
Beitz (win over Rylant)
Rylant (win over Burgoon)
Burgoon


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Re: 2016-17 All-Class Rankings! [Re: Coach Malay] #245251 03/02/17 01:02 AM
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Blaine Ray above Singleton, see the regional match. State placing was based on the way the bracket was seeded out.


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Old Dawg Gautschi and duhart never wrestled they were in different regionals and none of this have anything to do with how gautschi did at TOC. All i know is its hard to see a scenerio were a person loses the state championship match and finishes #1. That being said both duhart and green should be ahead of duncan.

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I did not see the entire match i saw much of overtime. Maybe i missed something.I'm talking about the 220 5A title match.I'm going off Beeson's response who did not have a dawg in the fight and i didn't either. Our guy was third and lost by one to duncan in the semis.

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Re: 2016-17 All-Class Rankings! [Re: Beeson] #245269 03/02/17 01:32 PM
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Originally Posted By: Beeson
Did you see the match?


Fluky things happen all the time. The better wrestler doesn't always get his/her hand raised!

In 4A 160lbs. Mlekus was in total control of the match, and came up short because of one mistake! If I was doing the rankings I would have a hard time not ranking Mlekus ahead of Mullin.


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Re: 2016-17 All-Class Rankings! [Re: BigPin22] #245285 03/02/17 06:24 PM
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I am continuing to work on the rankings and appreciate the input!


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Re: 2016-17 All-Class Rankings! [Re: BigPin22] #245286 03/02/17 06:31 PM
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In the case of that match the better wrestler did get his hand raised. The final score of the match dictates who "wins" and gets their hand raised. Hard to rank a guy over someone that has a head to head over you and a common opponent. Mullin beat Luellen 2 times this year who beat Mlekus.

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