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321A Rankings! #242573 11/03/16 08:04 PM
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The 321A Rankings have been posted.

Keep in mind I've only heard from a handful of coaches so the majority of these rankings are based off of last year's state tournament results. I've also added a few wrestlers who were out last season with injuries.

Please send any weight changes, transfers or injury information my direction for the next set of rankings.

Re: 321A Rankings! [Re: Wyatt Bechtel] #242620 11/11/16 09:10 PM
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I haven't heard from many people about weight changes. Please message me on the forum or send an email to wyatt_bechtel@yahoo.com

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The 321A Rankings were updated last Tuesday and are now posted.


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Isaac Helms beat the hoisington kid at 220 last year and was a state quilifer with wins

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Originally Posted By: Jgreen
Isaac Helms beat the hoisington kid at 220 last year and was a state quilifer with wins


Helms did have a win over Bradley last season. He also made it within a match of placing at state. However, Helms had 16 losses last season, with a few coming to opponents who have no experience at the state level. Those losses are holding him behind other wrestlers in the rankings.

Bradley was injured towards the end of last season when his record was (22-4). He had wins over state placer Guzman from Hesston (who beat Helms), state qualifier Gugelmeyer from Lakin (who beat Helms), and 4A state qualifier Schull from Nickerson (who beat Helms). Bradley made it within one match of placing at state in 2015.

It would have been great to watch Bradley and Helms matchup at Pratt this last weekend to help prove it on the mat this season. They'll have a chance to see each other again on Jan. 12 at the Hoisington Dual Tournament. For the time being Bradley has a better body of work which puts him above Helms despite the one head-to-head win.

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Did jacob jenkins of chaparral go to 195 i saw he wrestled 195

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Bradley also beat Matthew Kimber 2-1 at the Bob Kuhn

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132lbs is going to be fun to watch this year at state if all of these guys stay at that weight.

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Porsch and Hamel are also at least 132


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Originally Posted By: Tbrad
Bradley also beat Matthew Kimber 2-1 at the Bob Kuhn


Yes, that was another win I forgot to include since it wasn't part of the head-to-head comparison. Beating a state runner-up and currently top ranked 6A wrestler is another reason why Bradley deserves to be ranked in 321A.

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yes jenkins is going 195 and overton is going 182

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What about Gerber?


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acl and mcl tear out the season we think

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The 321A Rankings are updated for December 13, 2016.

Things are starting to shake out a little better. For the 3rd year in a row 138 looking like the toughest weight in 321A. There are currently 8 returning state placers and 6 returning state qualifiers at that weight class.

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Re: 321A Rankings! [Re: Wyatt Bechtel] #244235 02/09/17 12:36 AM
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At 126
Seth Harrell Defeated Justin Amaro 10-0 at Holton
Colton Steele lost to Justin Amaro 5-4 at Garden Plain
Colton Steele Defeated Bryce Younger 13-5

Seth Harrell should be Ranked higher. Four of the top six wrestlers are all in the same regional so it will all wash out, however he deserves a little credit.


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Originally Posted By: Tom Richard
At 126
Seth Harrell Defeated Justin Amaro 10-0 at Holton
Colton Steele lost to Justin Amaro 5-4 at Garden Plain
Colton Steele Defeated Bryce Younger 13-5

Seth Harrell should be Ranked higher. Four of the top six wrestlers are all in the same regional so it will all wash out, however he deserves a little credit.


Respectfully,
Tom Richard


I did look at that and made some considerations as to moving Harrell up with Steele. That win over Amaro was the reason Harrell had been above Steele the past few weeks.

If Amaro was in 321A then this would be a different discussion and I would have to take a harder look at things probably ranking it as #2 Harrell, #3 Amaro, #4 Steele, and #5 Younger, simply on head-to-head.

However, I also looked at both Steele and Harrell's performace last year in the same weight class at State when assessing the ranking. Steele finished 4th place while Harrell was off of the podium.

Similarly, Harrell doesn't jump Younger or Priddy in my rankings either because of his peformance at State. Both Younger and Priddy were runner-ups last season.

That grouping of Steele-Younger-Priddy-Harrell is very close, but for now Steele jumps ahead on the strength of his win against a tough 321A competitor and past State performance.

As you said it will all shake out at Regionals (and State).

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10-0 win and a 5-4 loss to a common opponent should carry a little more weight than last year's performance at State. Don't have a dog in the fight, but interested in this weight now.


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What happened to Overton at 182? Havent seen any results from him the last few weeks and hes no longer ranked.


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He's off the team

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Reason?


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Posts: 9 Wyatt, on Harrell's, 126 state performance last year. I can't remember the kid that beat Harrell first round, but you did have him ranked ahead of Harrell all year, going into the state tourney, and if I remember right, that kid beat Hileman of Smith Center at regionals the week before. So that wasn't so much an upset, but a tough first round draw at state. Then Harrell had to wrestle Hileman - the returning 126 state champion in the placing round. Again, those were no big surprise losses, judging by how you had them ranked last year. Harrell is a state placer (two years ago), with a common opponent over Steele. No matter what classifications it is, that holds a lot of water. Harrell has only lost to Hitchcock of Bonner and Richards of Riley...this year. That loss to the Wichita East kid was a bad loss for Steele. You could counter that argument by saying the WE kid is a returning state placer...that only strengthens Harrells argument - by such a dominating performance of 10-0 over him. You don't see any bad losses on Harrells record this year, or last year - judging by your rankings. I'm excited to see how this shakes out and I know its a competitive weight class. It's too bad Priddy hasn't wrestled many matches at 126 this year...he gave up two pins at his home tournament? Crazy. Heard the Silver Lake tournament was stacked this year. You're doing a great job Wyatt...and you're right it'll all shake out at state.

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Here are the final 321A Rankings for the 2016-17 season.

Note: These rankings are not based on how the brackets were drawn. I'll try to release some predictions later in the week.

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