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Goodard Regional #244616 02/17/17 08:34 AM
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13 full teams


1. Andover, KS Andover High School, KS (GET) ANDO 14 0.0
1. Arkansas City, KS Ark City High School, KS (GET) ARCI 13 0.0
1. Emporia, KS emporia, KS (GET) EMPO 14 0.0
1. Goddard, KS Goddard High School, KS (GET) GODD 14 0.0
1. Goddard-Eisenhower, KS Goddard Eisenhower, KS (GET) GOEI 14 0.0
1. Great Bend, KS Great Bend, KS (GET) GRBE 14 0.0
1. Liberal, KS Liberal, KS (GET) LIBE 14 0.0
1. Maize, KS Maize, KS (GET) MAIZ 14 0.0
1. Newton, KS Newton High School, KS (GET) NEWT 14 0.0
1. Salina-Central, KS Salina High School Central, KS (GET) SACE 13 0.0
1. Salina-South, KS Salina South, KS (GET) SASO 10 0.0
1. Topeka-West, KS Topeka West, KS (GET) TOWE 14 0.0
1. Valley Center, KS Valley Center High School, KS (GET) VACE 14 0.0
1. Wichita-Bishop Carroll, KS Bishop Carroll, KS (GET) WBC 14 0.0
1. Wichita-Heights, KS Wichita Heights High School, KS (GET) WIHE 14 0.0
1. Wichita-Kapaun Mt. Carmel, KS Kapaun Mt. Carmel, KS (GET) WKMC 14 0.0

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Re: Goodard Regional [Re: smokeycabin] #244626 02/17/17 02:54 PM
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2 of the 3 are only missing one spot, and one of those are a top ranked team anyway!

Great to see!


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Thank you to ALL the volunteers who helped make this regional, run like clock work. Couldn't have done it without you.

Lots of great matches, this weekend also. Good luck to ALL those that made it through, the battle grounds.

As for our Referees, 4 did GREAT! 1 NEEDS A REALITY CHECK, or someone to KNOCK, that chip off his shoulder.

Re: Goodard Regional [Re: Spexy] #244660 02/19/17 04:07 AM
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ANYONE, Know the name of the ref, who was stall crazy, point deducting, unsportsmanlike, against, coaches/wrestlers? At Goddard's 5A regional? Would like to talk to KSHSAA, about him.

HE NEEDS TO GO!

I'll take a mistake, but an idiot, I can't swallow! 😡😡😡


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Could of used him in buhler..... he called stalling wow heard he called it the way it should be and they way the rest of them need to call it

Re: Goodard Regional [Re: Cowbuff] #244662 02/19/17 09:48 AM
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The guy was Great! Was not afraid to call stalling. Made kids wrestle. I'd take ten of him. Just to prove I'm not just saying that to argue, I went up and got his name from Mark Wright and commented what a great job he did.


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Re: Goodard Regional [Re: Beeson] #244664 02/19/17 01:53 PM
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How many DQ's did he call?


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Re: Goodard Regional [Re: Chief Renegade] #244666 02/19/17 02:22 PM
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I didn't see any, and don't think he awarded 2 points for stalling the entire tournament.


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Re: Goodard Regional [Re: Beeson] #244668 02/19/17 05:12 PM
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if you want to get with Kshsaa the officals area supervisor is Mark WRIGHT

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Pretty Sure Mark was sitting Mat Side. Alex, the official in question will be calling NJCCA National Tournament this coming weekend. Apparently he knows his stuff.


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Re: Goodard Regional [Re: Chief Renegade] #244672 02/19/17 07:06 PM
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There were No DQs at the Goddard Regional. One wrestle was not allowed to continue for disciplinary actions from his school.


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Re: Goodard Regional [Re: Beeson] #244673 02/19/17 07:42 PM
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Originally Posted By: Beeson
There were No DQs at the Goddard Regional. One wrestle was not allowed to continue for disciplinary actions from his school.

Dippin Dots?

Re: Goodard Regional [Re: sportsfan02] #244675 02/19/17 08:17 PM
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Maybe he does maybe he doesn't. When you have 10-12 coaches complaining and saying he's horrible, out of 16. Then there is a problem.

I agree, backing up the whole time should be called. EVERYTIME!

But, if a wrestler is fighting for position, whether in the middle of the mat, or toeing the line, sprawle's feet go out and you get dinged. Not a good call. Saw another instance, where one wrestler shot, missed came back up and other wrestler reshot, wrestler sprawled, got dinged. WHY? For using defense?

He needs to stay in NJCAA.

And you know FOR A FACT, he was the ONLY, ref to throw at least at minimum of 60-80 stall calls over 2 days. The other 4 combined might have thrown half that.

It's wrestling. But being dinged on your feet, while fighting for position, and no backward movement is crap.

Top and bottom, yes! Saw it a lot, one riding the hip, the other just laying there.

But on your feet, unless going straight back EVERYTIME, a stall call shouldn't be called. And FYI, a Russian is a stall tactic, if all you do is hold the arm and do nothing with it. Was it called? NO. Saw it more than once, and same ref, was on the mat.

Mark Wright was there and mat side. But no ref is gonna stand up and say, "that's a bad call to another ref." During a tournament. Might after over, but damage is already done.

That's my soap box.

Good luck to all next week.

Re: Goodard Regional [Re: Spexy] #244676 02/19/17 09:14 PM
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10-12 little league coaches (dad's) that dont really know the rules is not very reliable.

The match you are talking about, wrestler that was called for stalling stepped back every start. Did not see one time his first step was forward. Let's not blame the official for a loss. Take responsibility.

More Kansas officials would do themselves a favor by calling stalling. I would love to have this guy at state and ten more just like him.


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Re: Goodard Regional [Re: Beeson] #244678 02/19/17 10:26 PM
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You would. And EACH AND EVERY WRESTLER IS DIFFERENT! Not ONE OF THEM GOES FORWARD RIGHT AFTER THE WHISTLE. Unless doing an ankle pick.

Those that are on the "Top" or "Really Good" size up their opponent, before confronting them.

Guess you wouldn't know.

And no on little league coaches, I was at tables both days. Heard it from all, on how bad he was.

Sorry, I know the truth, hurts, but it is what is is.

Re: Goodard Regional [Re: Beeson] #244679 02/19/17 10:31 PM
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Alex is one of the best officials in the state IMO. He is very fair, and not afraid to admit when he is wrong. He calls a quick pin and also calls stalling. Two things i wish more refs called of. He was supposed to be at our regional this weekend and was pulled due to another offical getting sick. I would of loved to have him in our regional.


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We vote for Alex every year when we are voting for post season officials. I've argued with Alex before and we've seen a situation differently a time or two, but he is one of the best officials in Kansas as far as I am concerned. I hate to hear that he is doing the NJCAA Championships next weekend as I was hoping he would be a Salina! Good for him getting selected for Nationals!


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I don't have a dog in this fight and I wasn't there for the tournament. But if the wrestlers, wrestlers dad's, wrestlers coaches, etc, etc are wanting their wrestler competing at the next level. Which I would hope is the case in most HS wrestlers then you better get prepared with the stalling calls being quick. Otherwise they are going to struggle in college. I wish more officials were quicker on the stall call it would make the sport more appealing to new fans.

Just my opinion.

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Originally Posted By: Spexy
Those that are on the "Top" or "Really Good" size up their opponent, before confronting them.

Guess you wouldn't know.


I was only a 3x State Champion and on 2 National Championship Teams in College so I probably don't know about top tier or really good wrestlers. What are your credentials for knowing about how to be a top tier wrestler?


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