what tournaments are tougher than the state tournament patrick. this is not true for everyones bracket but in my sons case at wichita classic he had 2 tulsa national placers in it. Maize he had a national champion in it. Derby brings several kids from out of state. Salina is just as tough as state due to the kids wrestling in different weights. so in my opinion the state tournament is not always the toughest. It is the most satisfying to win because it is called the state championships.