i thought it was about saving money. i really dont think that is about saving money. I did the cliff keen, tulsa and missed salina due to a wedding. will not go to liberty or brute until they decide to charge a decent fee and not give the coaches all the bling. I dont go to tournaments for the hospitality room or to pay 90 dollars to coach then get a jacket or a shirt. will probably try the cotton bowl next year and probably go back to tulsa. I have 5 kids and 2 play on a travel basketball team so i have to spend wisely. 5 dollars extra for 5 or 6 tournaments is alot less expensive than all those tournaments you just named. if kansas is the way everyone against the series talks about then we should get that competition as my son will be at the bottom of 10 under next year. now if you want to sponsor a team kansas where we dont have to pay for all the travel expenses to those big tournaments then i am in.