thanks badbo I will keep that in mind when they move the season up a month or so. Im glad there are so many people getting involved in this topic and it has been a good one and views from lots of different angles. It would be interesting to see if the state voted on how many kids would actually do fs and gr if the moved the season up and made room for it and not have to go an extra month. I know my son would be there and I can think of an entire club that would be there. Just a little hint.