BBD, You are right on that. I sould have just said Derby beat Norton on 1/15 and Heights beat Derby on 1/15. Garden was missing a lot of points and still finished well. The bottom line was that Heights lost 20 points from Dap, 12 additional from Ulysses and 15 from missing Jones at 112. As bad of a day as the rest of the team had, that would still have given them 134.